/lit/ - Literature

>>23263037
what thesis? mans an alien believing nigger

>>23263037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwTkDkSbO-4

>>23263037
What's his thesis?

>>23263592
Thanks lad, I'll check it out

>>23263592
>Where's the stuff
Most would disintegrate over the time period Hancock is claiming, ten thousand years roughly. What will be left of America in ten thousand years? No steel, no wood, only stone. Our continent spanning civilization would only have a rough looking mount Rushmore and the Hoover dam left at that point. The Romans left behind lots of 'stuff' because they built their buildings out of stone. Most of our cities are built from wood and steel and will not be here in a few hundred years.

That's the point of Hancock's argument: time has erased most of the physical evidence of this society but the circumstantial and cultural evidence in combination with the megalithic architecture that did survive points to an advanced civilization earlier than conventional history claims. The video fails to understand this pretty basic and fundamental point of Hancock's argument.

His food argument is interesting and one I haven't considered before, I'll have to come back to re watch it.

His DNA argument is obviously silly bunk, we haven't traced each population's genes back to ten thousand BC and ensured we know where each and every gene came from. If there was a population that spread these 'memes' of civilization around the world, they wouldn't necessarily be homogenous enough to leave a genetic marker for us to discover anyway. Do we know the origins of each and every gene found in Arabs? Of course not, silly argument.

>>23264126
>DNA
This is actually an extraordinary piece of evidence against Hancock. You can say "Oh, their architecture all got eroded and they just cultivated whatever grain and vegetables were locally available" but you can't account for DNA. If a single civilization existed that could travel the globe and establish colonies around the world, then their Y-Chromosome Haplogroup would appear throughout the world, appearing in an even scattering of every population that exists on a landmass where they settled. However, what we see with DNA sequencing is a clear and unmistakable one-way diaspora of emigration out of Africa, through Europe and Asia, and into America, without intermingling in the interim between this dispersal and the industrial revolution.
Y Group Q, which exists among people from Northeast Asia, Siberia, and across North America is one of the 'youngest' of these groups, and it diverged at least 17,000 years ago.

As much as he can waffle about traditions changing or monuments being eroded, you can't voodoo your way out of genetics. It takes tens of thousands of years for enough generational mutations to develop that create an obvious difference between two groups of people. If the population of every pre-industrial nation on earth consisted of, say, 25% Polynesian people for some otherwise inexplicable reason, then sure, but that isn't even remotely close to being the case.

Graham Hancock is wrong. Every postulation he has ever made has been definitively proven wrong. Continuing to believe in his lost empire is akin to having an imaginary friend: nobody can force you to change your mind, but all you will ever accomplish is fooling yourself.

>>23264126
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange
Normies don't like history. They like fairy tales.

>>23264844
>out of Africa theory

>>23264844
This is assuming the hypothetical population in question
A-was genetically homogenous enough to leave genetic traces of itself that were recognizable in future genomic studies and
B-interbred with the locals enough to create a sizeable and lasting impact on their genomes.

Neither of these need be true. If I'm not mistaken, Hancock is not claiming that there was a Dorian-invasion type migration that resettled local areas with thousands of members of new genetic stock but rather a handful of "prophets" that scattered around the globe to spread the knowledge of civilization. To claim that we should be able to see the genetic markers of a few hundred such individuals ten thousand years later is a fantasy.

I'm sure Hancock is wrong on many points, but I think that's a misrepresentation of his argument and thus a strawman.

Fingerprints is outdated, and was supplanted by Magicians of the Gods. Thread is troll thread.

>>23263612
There was a civilisation (or multiple) that was not hunter gatherers, they were more advanced than that. Then, flood happened ~10,000 years ago, wiped them out, reset humanity. Goes around to various archaological sites and demonstrates this.

>>23265095
>Thread is troll thread
Lol fucking retard, calm down