/lit/ - Literature

I don't read in public
.

Yeah, I can't imagine Lolita getting you looks in Holland when it won't get you looks in the United States. I never got looks when I read it, at least none that I know of. Commotion over books is dead for most the part, probably largely due to the fact that most people don't read.

>Be Amurrkan
>Everyone worships der Jude here
>Read Mein Kampf to see what it's about since history teachers always blame the Nazification of Germany on that book
>About half of people who see me reading it get all buttmad, most complain and call me a Nazi; the other half are completely clueless as to who wrote it and have never heard of it
But yeah, Lolita is really fucked up, not to mention poorly written. I didn't read it in its entirety.

For reference, the only other book I've ever started and not finished was Dickens' Great Expectations.

>>2324147
>Lolita
>poorly written

No.

>>2324164
It's always closet pedos who complain about it being poorly written, and stop halfway through when it stops being about Humbert getting into more and more risqué encounters with Lo.

It's a running joke. No one is going to give you shit for reading something unless it's got nudity on the cover, at which point they will stare at it.

Lolita is a fantastic novel and is widely recognized as such.

Because real men wouldn't dare read a Fabio-cristened paperback romance.

Lolita is fantastic.

I also recommend King, Queen, Knave.
Nabokov has a way with love stories. His are perhaps the only ones I will read.

Ah yes, guess I could just read it then. Otherwise I still would, but aside from that it's also good it's well written.

>What's your experience with reading such books in public?
I find they tend to be provocative. They do what Jonathan Franzen says every novel ought to do: provide a means for the artist to explore the unknown.

>Are there any other 'wrong' novels?
Huckleberry was regarded as "wrong" because of its use of the vernacular and humanization of a slave. It is regarded as "wrong" now because of its use of the n-word.

The novels of D. H. Lawrence were regarded as controversial because of the unapologetic honesty with which he approached sex. This is also true of James Joyce's Ulysses.

The Catcher in the Rye was controversial partly because of all the swearing.

Looking for Alaska by John Green apparently sparked controversy in some school district in America because (I think) of the scene involving blow-jobs.

Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman was regarded as pretty edgy given its explicitly sexual content.

I don't know if this one's good enough to make the cut, but I find it interesting: Mary Shelley's Frankenstein was censored by the apartheid government of South Africa under the premise that it was "indecent, objectionable, or obscene."

People like to make a big deal about Shylock in The Merchant of Venice - with regard to whether Shakespeare was slandering or humanizing Jews. [I personally think that Shylock's character reflects the prejudices of the time, and Shakespeare gives him lines like "hat not a Jew eyes" not because he was some radical humanist but because he was Shakespeare and as he got more experienced he learned how to make characters more vivid. Had he written it around the time he wrote Titus Andronics, I think Shylock would have been very similar to Christopher Marlowe's The Jew of Malta.] And I know this is a play (not a novel), but I figured I'd mention it anyway.

And a few more:
The Chinese government gave Alice in Wonderland shit for suggesting that animals were as complex as humans, and that they were somehow equals.

Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe was, of course, controversial at the time because of its anti-slavery sentiments.

Islamic nations thought Salmun Rushdie's Satanic Verses was blasphemy against Islam.

Thomas Paine's Rights of Man was controversial because of the support of the French Revolution it expressed during a time when the rest of Europe was worried similar shit might go down outside of France.

i bought lolita and the documentary capturing the friedmans at the same time in a book store a few weeks ago. i didn't think twice about it. i don't think it is a big deal

>I'm 18 years old, I live in Holland

>Holland, where the age of consent over the last 30 years seems to veer randomly between 7-16, and kiddie porn used to be on sale in Rotterdam sex shops.

I think you're probably OK on the tram, kerel. Unless you live in the South, where they will probably kill you with fire.

Lolita is one of the greatest works in the English language in the 20th century.
People who know, know that.
There are about 3 passages in it that could stimulate any pedophile, and that only in a sort of abstract way.
It is mostly about love and obsession and the destructive interaction between them.
And waterproof watches.

lolita IS lit. this following image is not.

>>2324147
>poorly written
you are a fucking idiot

>>2324147
>>2324147
lol guess yr not a big fan of good books.

requesting greentext stories about lolita. like where would the copypastsa, there was some goddam funny ones

if you don't want ppl looking oddly at you for what you read, just bind the covers.

or better yet, get an ebook reader. that will troll them hard.

>>2324335

Sir.

>>2324328
You mean like
>Be a widow with a young daughter
>Meet attractive French gentleman
>Get married
>He keeps diary in locked desk
>Open desk and read diary when he is out
>Diary details his lust for daughter
>FUUUUUUU--
>Writing letters about it
>Husband comes in
>Tell him calmly why he is a prevert
>He tries to convince me otherwise
>nope.jpg
>brb, gonna mail those letters now

This book gave me a huge hardon for Nabokov and all of his prose, I've never been the same since.

>>2324344
that was alright even though she doesn't calmly say it, she flips her shit

No I mean more along the lines of something brownbear would write whatwithall
>woman starts swearing at me on bus
>get called sexual predator
>vomit on woman
etc

Nobody reads, so you'll be fine. Unless you have an older edition of Lolita, as its cover was more titillating back in the '60s and '70s I believe.

>>2324301
Kinda want to read? Sorry, just read some Nin.


>>2324134
>wrong novels
I think Hardy's Jude The Obscure is the epitome of wrongness, people got so butthurt over it Hardy swore off novels for the rest of his life.

>>2324387

That's not what he used to write (although it's just as awful) - he used to meet women while he was reading Animal Farm in bars or whatever.

You're thinking of the

>lolita runs away
>spaghetti falls out of my pocket

meme, which is also absolutely horrible. I think it came from /sp/ or /r9k/ originally.

I read it mainly on the public transportation system of Budapest. Whether or not anyone recognizes the title, I doubt that Hungarians would have any qualms about age-staggered relationships.

>>2324418
>You're thinking of-
no, I wasn't thinking that of all
and as a litizen for 2 years I fucking know what brownbears' stories were like. None of them mentioned animal farm, and I mean in the same vein of humor as his, you daft cunt

>>2324426

>quotes bb as humorous.
>calls me a daft cunt

Which one are you? Left or right? And put your fucking trip on.

What? I read it on a crowded subway before and liked it on Facebook. Do people actually give a fuck and now consider me a pedophile?

>>2324461
you must be new here
>>2324459
>left or right
>answer choices from top to bottom
I'm not brownbear but maybe you have autism if you didn't think they were funny?

>>2324472

>doesn't know what left and right means
>tripfag fanboi
>claims not to be a tripfag

>>2324481
>doesn't know what left and right means
>hates the general existance of tripfags, forcing himself to not enjoy any post by any tripfag simply because they are
>claims to not be a 'daft cunt'

>>2324490

I'll make it easy. In the picture, one man is on the left of the picture and the other man is on the right of the picture. Which one is you?

Even easier, are you DE or BB?

>>2324496
>which one is you
>which one is you
>dat grammar
stop having a tao lin complex you fucking stupid tosser.
OMG HE SAID TAO LIN HE IS TAO LIN NOW

>>2324497

>OMG HE SAID TAO LIN HE IS TAO LIN NOW

I actually lol'd a bit at that. You win. I'm going to bed.

There's a taco hut within walking distance of my place called "Lolita's Tacos" that I eat at on the reg.

This is me relating.

My first love at school was a girl called Lolita Alvarez. She was a complete slut and she broke my heart for at least two days.

>>2324514
Googled Lolita's Tacos, got LolitasMexicanfood.com at 'Our Story' you see it was founded by Joaquin and Dolores. Aha. Then it's just a nickname, like Dolores in Lolita.

>>2325739
Interesting addition:
"Lolita's is a proud supporter of children's sports teams in the community."

>>2324138
Disregard this, read it in public. defy the convention. break the rules. teach the controversy. etc

>>2324147
Don't you think if it was badly written at least one of the thousands of readers and critics who applaud it would have mentioned something??

>>2325739
>>2325744

>>2324514 here. That is hilarious.

>>2324147
No. Get out..

>>2324164
Thank you, Anon.

Nabakov captured the psyche of Humbert perfectly. It's by far the most convincing and disturbing portrayal of an Anti-hero (Wrong word, close enough) that I've ever seen. The worst part is that the more you follow Humbert's thought process, you can see elements of him in you, you in him.

I will never mention that I've read it in public, but my god, it was affecting.

I remember my father giving me looks when I was reading A Clockwork Orange at 15. I should probably re-read it, as I don't remember it being anything other than a really weirdly written violent book.