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What are some great books or writers that have a positive stance on drugs?

>> No.23197833
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>>23197826

>> No.23197878

Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson are pretty cool. Carlos Castaneda too, I guess (he calls them “power plants”, and I’m certain he tried at least some of them).

>> No.23197953

>>23197826
huxley

>> No.23199155

>>23197826
https://www.denverpost.com/2023/12/04/plant-psychedelic-colorado-san-pedro-cactus-hallucinogens-mescaline/amp/

>> No.23199162

>>23197826
The Shulgin Index: Psychedelic Phenethylamines and Related Compounds

>> No.23199166

>>23197826
Pihkal: A Chemical Love Story
by Ann Shulgin and Alexander Shulgin

>> No.23199174

>>23197826
Native American books on the medical wheel and spirituality are good and go into using mind altering substances for spiritual purposes but I can’t think of any books off the top my head.

>> No.23199180

>>23197833
This is the only non-cringe drug literature I've found. I would add Nightmares of an Ether Drinker but the drug use in it is more like an aesthetic than a actual meaningful discussion. Naked Lunch, Hunter S Thompson and the Beat guys are all incredibly cringe.

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>>23197826

>> No.23199383

Abbie Hoffman and all other hippies/yippies

>> No.23199573

>>23197826
Isn't that cat painted by a famous schizophrenic who was not taking any drugs, and is well prior to the advent of psychedelics or psychedelic "art"?

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>>23199573
Louis Wain (5 August 1860 – 4 July 1939)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Wain

>> No.23199972

>>23199573
it is, but does that make OP wrong for posting it? it still fits the vibe of being trippy. also, >>23199573
>prior to the advent of psychedelics
psychedelics are not new. cavemen had psychedelics.

>> No.23200025

>>23199972
>fits the vibe
We are here to find truths not stupify ourselves with palatable falsehoods. Wein drew kaleidoscopic art without the use of any drug, prior to the advent of synthetic or manufactured psychedelics and the psychedelic genre-art that arose from them.

You are dangerously close to the druggy idiocy of conflating stupification by drugs with the creative vision of the artist and in doing so misunderstanding the artists method and vocation, and stunting yourself from ever achieving it. Do not seek to mollify yourself with the comfort lies of mere "vibes," excavate truth from falsehood with the precsion of a surgeon's scalpel or forever remain buried in mounds of self-deceit.

>> No.23200153

Just read Philip K. Dick

>> No.23200154

>>23200025
op never stated that the picture was made by a drug user. you inferred that yourself and god mad about it. there is not palatable falsehood here, you have invented and falsehood that you find distasteful so as to have something to bitch about. its far more likely he just scrolled through some pictures he already had and though "yeah that one kinda goes with the thread i'm making".

>> No.23200162

Samuel Taylor Coleridge.
>Came up with 'Kubla Khan' whilst high on laudanum.
>Only got to write part of it until he was interrupted.
>Complained about it util his dying day.

>> No.23200165

>>23200153
I saw the 'A Scanner Darkly' movie and it seemed to have a really anti-drug stance. It even ended with a list of his friends who died from drugs.

>> No.23200201

fear and loathing in las vegas

>> No.23200217

>>23200165
I wouldn't really say he was pro-drug, to be honest...at least not in his writing. Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said; and The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch are better "druggy" stories of his anyways.
There's always Dune, too, which are notorious for being influenced by Frank Herbert's love of taking hallucinogenic mushrooms.

>> No.23200694

>>23197826
Erowid trip reports
https://erowid.org/experiences/

>> No.23200707

>>23200154
Which is why his laziness needs to be corrrected lest it lead him into further easy stupidities and palatable falsehoods.

>> No.23200762

>>23200694
Man I use to love reading those, there was one really great one called Zeezerzow I think where the guy took 4 tabs of LSD his first time it was very memorable and well written and introduced me to A Confederacy of Dunces. There’s other weird shit like the guy who claimed to have walked off a heart attack in cocaine or the guy who got hooked on some kind of dodgy Valium or something he got from India and took so many he started having real delirious hallucinations where he’d be talking to his friend, having a normal conversation and then they’d just vanish mid conversation. The 420chan board used to have some interesting stories about people taking 700mg of DPH (and rarely Datura)or more and having horrifying real hallucinations. Very fun stuff to read about even if it is a phenomenally stupid thing to do( Datura in particular has been known to have radically varying amounts of active ingredient between plants and parts; so what may have been a mild dosage in one plant causes you to trip for three days in another)

>> No.23200923

>>23199180
Let me know how far that obsession with self-image and edgy shit takes you in 5 years time

>> No.23200933

>>23200025
All art is psychedelic genre art. Psychedelics are not something that give you hallucinations. They shut off the parts of the brain that filter extra data, showing you extra layers of the subconscious. A molecule doesn't affect the mind, it affects the brain.

>> No.23200935

>>23200025
>>23200933
Not only this, but it consistently amazes me that after so much neuropsychologicall, spiritual, and psychological research has been done on psychedelics people still assume a few atoms can artificially ADD infinitely extra data to your brain's processes.

>> No.23200953

>>23200923
nta but did you read his post at all or are you calling Confessions of an English Opium Eater "edgy"? are you retarded?

>> No.23200971

>>23200953
>Nightmares of an Ether Drink
>...the drug use is more of an aesthetic
Anon, please

>> No.23200995

>>23200933
No you fucking idiot druggy, the creative vision of the artist is not you stupifying yourself on drugs and passing out on the floor of your apartment in a pile of your own vomit.

>> No.23201099

>>23200923
>Naked Lunch and Fear and Loathing are cringe
>this is somehow edgy to say

what?

>> No.23201187

>>23200971
You clearly haven't read it.

>> No.23201545

>>23200995
Shut up, numbskulled little petulant faggot. You aren't even capable of ascertaining the very basic implications of my post. You aren't getting any more than one (You) from me. Don't come to the /lit/ board if you have no background in philosophy unless you want to embarrass yourself like a child. Fucking neanderthal.

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>>23200707
no one else in the world holds posts to the standard you do. we aren't all going to make sure that you personally feel there's a strong enough connection between the text of a post and an accompanying image. an anonymous post on 4chan is a fine thing to be lazy about.