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How did this fella study only at part-time, at night, besides his law studies and become the greatest writer in Japanese history? Are there any other auto-didactical writers that have disclosed their methods?

>> No.23182297

How the fuck is studying literature real ahahahahahah just read books and write

>> No.23182321

>>23182293
Henry Miller has works on writing that I found immensely enlightening and inspiring and useful.

>>23182297
this too

>> No.23182339

>>23182293
For two reasons

1. He is not nearly as first rate as you make him out to be

2. The topics and themes he covers are things which were clearly close to his heart so all he had to do was put them in writing. It is much easier to be a writer if you have actual feelings worth portraying.

>> No.23182355

>>23182293
Supposedly Einstein taught himself math. I'm not sure he had a method per se other than doing it. Do it and find out if you can the auto-didact way.

>> No.23182356

>>23182297
Every great writer studied other greats. Think about the translation, imitation and emulation of Ovid, Vergil, &c done by so many.
>>23182339
Did every greater writer not write what was close to him? Milton, Dante, Fitzgerald.

>> No.23182363

>>23182339
>For two reasons
>1. I am a narcissistic pseud and rate him lowly. Can you not see how such an opinion indicates I'm informed and highly intelligent?
>2. [Insert cliche]. [Insert banal observation on said cliche]. Can you not see I'm very wise?

>> No.23182364

>>23182356
Yes but the point is that to men like Dante or to Mishima even, they have clear feelings to express (with Dante it is how he feels approaching midlife and how he views his place in the world cosmological and religiously while Mishima it is his feelings of uneasiness regarding his masculinity and how he didn’t serve his country during the war). What people on here don’t realize is you need actual depth as a person in order to write something interesting. Those things aren’t the sort of stuff which Mishima had to learn at school.

>> No.23182370

>>23182363
See my thoughts here >>23182364

OP is asking how to write essentially and Mishima wrote because he had actual feelings to express. While I don’t really care for his opinions on the loss of masculinity among men in postwar Japan or about his suppressed gay thoughts, my overall point was he didn’t learn to write about those things in a school setting because they came natural to him. You need depth as an individual to write like Mishima.

>> No.23182372

>>23182370
>See my thoughts here
No.

>> No.23182376

>>23182372
Okay

>> No.23182379

>>23182364
I have many things I want to write about. The problem is not the what, it's the how.

>> No.23182382

>>23182376
People who mistake being strongly opinionated for being informed and bloviate on cliches are a bane on humanity.

>> No.23182388

>>23182382
Good thing that doesn’t describe me at all. Thanks for voicing your opinion however.

>> No.23182394

>>23182379
“How did Mishima learn to write?”

He read other jap books which he admired and then took up the pen and put his own pent up feelings down in written form.

That’s the answer to the OP’s question.

>> No.23182397
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23182397

>>23182388
>"Good thing that doesn’t describe me at all."

>> No.23182400

>>23182397
Alright. Mishima is the greatest writer of all time and his popularity on here isn’t mainly due to his cheesy agitprop inherent in all his garbage romance books. You win.

>> No.23182401

>>23182293
>the greatest writer in Japanese history?
a low bar

>> No.23182406

>>23182400
>If I stereotype all Mishima readers as the lowest common denominator you will recognize the inherent superiority of ["]my["]perspective
Lol

>> No.23182415
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>>23182401
What have you done for your nation?

>> No.23182421

>>23182406
While politics is inherently in his books and you can’t really divorce them from his politics, it is entirely politically oriented why he is appreciated on here and definitely not for things like prose or beauty. I actually found his movie “Patriotism” to be visually aesthetic but I wouldn’t rate him the greatest writer of all time like many here seem to.

>> No.23182426

>>23182421
>blah blah blah
Come back when you have something interesting to say.

>> No.23182428

>>23182415
What I did is I didn’t get to serve in the war effort for physical reasons and I then modeled my entire career on making up for the loss of masculinity I feel for not getting to serve. That is what I did.

>> No.23182432

>>23182415
Reminds me of how people who act condescendingly towards sports really just sucked at them and have a chip on their shoulder.

>> No.23182445

>>23182293
He was raised with a literary education and showed writing talent literally in kindergarten. A school head literally entrusted the future of Japan to him after reading his first novel.

By the time he was studying law he was not a normal person.

>> No.23182458

Is Honda a partial self-insert that witnesses the flaming out of other self-inserts?

>> No.23182466

>>23182415
I didn't make a fool out of myself and then suicided half way until another guy had to cut my head off to end my suffering only to make it worse by causing an even worse injury by having poor chopping skills, inside national military headquarters in my country. I am not a faggot either.

>> No.23182472

>>23182466
Instead of being a fool for a moment, you make your whole life that of a fool by lacking all idealism.

>> No.23182473

>>23182466
You left out the best part how it was after hours when all the soldiers had left and only a bunch of janitors were in the building.

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>>23182466
>end my suffering
As he died he came.

>> No.23183065

>>23182473
kek I didn't know that.

>> No.23183095

>>23182693
Wtf

>> No.23183263

>>23182473
>>23183065
This is false. Watch the video of the event and you can see a few lieutenant (equivalent) ranked officers and others. There's no reason to believe that the other uniformed military personnel were just cooks and janitors.
>>23182693
>>23183095
Also not true. The tranny in question wrote a lot of false shit and was successfully sued for defamation of Mishima.

>> No.23183912

>>23182339
Mishima and Junger are the best writers of the last century.

>> No.23183929

>>23182293
In love with Mishima. I love Mishima so much. How can one man so perfectly exemplify the chrysanthemum and the sword? He's perfect... He's so perfect bros...

>> No.23183940

>>23182473
>t was after hours when all the soldiers had left and only a bunch of janitors were in the building
False. They literally kidnapped the base commander in the middle of the day.
>>23183263
>Also not true. The tranny in question wrote a lot of false shit and was successfully sued for defamation of Mishima.
False.

>> No.23184601

>>23182382
>People who mistake being strongly opinionated for being informed and bloviate on cliches are a bane on humanity.
Includes the author of that sentence.

>> No.23184693

>>23184601
>no you
You need to pick up a basic logic text you absolute retard.

>> No.23184701

>>23182415
People don't find hero worship comical. They find Mishima, possibly one of the least heroic, least masculine figures imaginable, aping that sort of thing amusing. There is a massive difference.

No amount of posing with zoomba weights will change the fact he was a larping trust fund baby who was laughed at by real soldiers when his voice was too reedy to even address them.