/lit/ - Literature

If everyone reports this thread for advertising, it'll get deleted.

>>23149184
No one is advertising anything whatsoever here, this thread is for discussion of /lit/ culture and writing. I'll remind you that announcing a report is against the rules of this board.

>>23149184
Why are you a faggot?

You're forgetting Gabriel Smith, /lit/'s biggest success story.

>>23149293
literally who?

>>23149300
QRD
>>/lit/thread/22277774

>>23149263
>>23149273
kill yourself, samefag

>>23147770
&ampbros… it's ogre

>10. No spamming or flooding of any kind. No intentionally evading spam or post filters.
Jannies deserve a pay cut for allowing this thread.

>>23149811
>this faggot still wears his mask outside and is taking booster shots

ZULU! COME BACK! WE NEED YOU!

>>23149811
Are you fucking slow or something? Spamming is when you deliberately push a thread to the bump limit by making a large number of low-effort or off-topic posts in quick succession. Flooding is when you rapidly fill the catalog with multiple threads about the same topic, thus killing other threads and negatively impacting discourse on the board. All of the threads in your screencap were posted days or weeks apart. Having a single thread up about a specific topic at any given time does not qualify as spamming/flooding. By your logic, having repeated poetry general threads, or /wg/ threads, or sci-fi/fantasy general threads would also constitute spamming/flooding. If seeing other anons discussing /lit/ projects and /lit/ culture bothers you so much, then consider making use of the 'Hide Thread' feature. That's why it's there.

post2015 /lit/ fucking sucks

>>23149160
Reminder: the canadian amp has been spamming this thread for three months straight to advertise, and a mod deleted the spam yesterday. Now, another spam thread.

>>23149887
None of the generals use the exact same wording spammed over & over like you retards at AMP manage. Nice false equivalence

>>23149923
/wg/ literally does, you fucking retard.

>>23149930
No, it doesn't and a hurt dog howls. I Guarantee you're from AMP and upset that people finally know that you ponzi-scheme advertising schizos are behind this SPAM.

mods

JB really was right. 2024 is a /lit/ year. Already seen multiple novels confirmed for this year, even a trad published one. What a time to be alive.

&amp is barely mentioned in the OP, listed as one of many /lit/ collab projects. Reach any further and you might pull a muscle.

>>23149944
Too bad you "people" already admitted it last thread while ALSO SPAMMING. Being deceitful AND low IQ must be painful

>>23149930
>>23149923
>>23149895
>>23149944
Why is anon being such a Karen? Like this is the type of stuff people complain about when someone's patio furniture doesn't match the homeowner association / strata code for "green" because the patio furniture is sage green and not sea green. Get a life.

>>23149952
>Why can't my SPAM threads not get called out for what they are?

>>23149958
I guarantee these threads get more views than 90% of the posts on /lit/, if we only had view counts.

>>23149964
totally nonresponsive and theoretical defense of SPAM. Nice job!

>>23149968
If a thread is interesting and posted regularly, I do not see how this is any different than the /wg/ or other such ongoing threads.

>>23149979
You're an AMPER who posts this SPAM trash, so clearly you would want the threads to not be deleted.
>If it's interesting [to me] it's not spam.
Wow, you are low IQ.

>>23149942
kill yourself

>>23149993
>>23149985
Who you gonna call?

CRAB BUSTERS!

>>23149979
>>23150049
>AI Spam in a Spam thread
Impressive

>>23150049
>>23149979
kill yourself, Jason

>>23150087
>>23150059
Bustin' makes me feel good. 2024 is the year /lit/ is going to crank out the books.
>wagmi

>>23150100
Just kill yourself

>>23150100
>AI Spam continues
You're not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

>>23150112
>>23150108
Cope and seethe, crabs!

>>23150130
>let me fill the thread with AI spam, that will show the haters!
90 IQ / schizo.

>>23150108
>>23150112
Stop responding to him, you fucking retards. Any attention that he gets only encourages him to keep going. Just ignore him completely.

>>23150130
Kill yourself, jason!

>>23150136
>>23150132
Going to be siiiiiiiiiick when my 3rd book is online, /lit/ is going to be a hub of creativity this year. The tide will lift all of the boats at once, and all the crabs can do is nip at our heels. Little do the crabs know, these posts are a trap to bring them in for the kill. Yum yum, got my butter and garlic ready for when Jason's book launches!

>>23150150
Why don't you commit suicide instead?

>>23150150
This post manages to be advertising with AI Spam. A hat trick

>>23150167
Because writing is fun? You pull these wild ideas straight from the ether, put it into a file, upload it to Bezo's marketplace of schlock, and bam, you've put your ideas out into the world! How cool is that?

The most satisfying thing I can think about is to have a stack of books that I've written and people who enjoy them. All I have to do is be consistent and keep pushing forward. Like with anything in life, most people give up before they've really hit any sort of stride. It is also nice to have you crabs around because the hate is a motivator, you have this group of people who actively hate anyone on /lit/ who writes, so, naturally, I am on #TeamWrite and here to push back against the crabs. It is a fun hobby, where else in modern life can you find any sort of resistance to push back against?
>you complete me

>>23150196
Your delusional and schizophrenic.
The treatment is suicide.

As always, these threads are spam meant to advertise. Immediately filled with Jason Bryan's barely sentient AI advertising mods, and have been so for months straight

>>23150200
"You're"

>>23150204
Damn, we got a thread Hitler over here!

>>23150216
Thanks for admitting you have been spamming the board with AI advertisements for MONTHS, Bryan.

>>23150221
Who are you to label writers talking to writers and the discussion of the history of /lit/ as spam? Why don't you just hide the thread and leave us alone?

>>23150227
Nice try. All thread (and for months now) you've been advertising your own books and filling threads with AI SPAM.

>>23150233
The images are always on-topic. If these threads are so triggering for you, why do you participate and write back to me? What's your vested interest in policing this thread?

>>23150242
Nice deflection of the fact that for MONTHS, you, Jason Bryan, have been banned continually by Mods for spamming this board with AI and advertisements

>>23150242
>>23150247
You're both retards. Stop spamming the thread and fuck off.

>>23150261
The entire thread is spam advertisements meant for AMP and Jason Bryan's AI slop shilling.

>>23150247
The times I have been banned were only for "ban evasion", which is impossible, because I only have this IP. I appealed it every time and was unbanned, so the bans are from people fraudulently reporting me as someone else, multiple times.

>>23150304
>I appealed it every time and was unbanned
You are a liar and a shill.

>>23150333
Do you ever tire of being disingenuous on here?

>>23150422
when is Black Eye, brother
what happened to Day of the Rake

>>23150422
>gets unbanned once
>that happened everytime for the same reason, trust me
Lying shill slime.

>>23150422
Someone thought you had been banned permanently and reported you as evading it when they saw you posting again. They weren't being disingenuous, they should have just picked any of
>Spamming/flooding
>This post is advertising or begging
>This post is extremely low quality
or maybe even
>Avatar or signature use
(people should remember that last one the next time RJC or the &amp editor post)

>>23150227
>talking to writers and the discussion of the history of /lit/
Advertising your to-be-released book is not "history".

>>23150445
Day of the Rake is 1/2 done, I just got super inspired from Kill Yourself Guy to finish Black Eye Friday first because it was basically 90% done already.

>>23149787
>some dudes come together to collab on some diy bullshit
>some other unrelated dude loses his shit about it
huh?

>>23150466
Maybe you should become a mod and just ban me on sight so you can have this board all to yourself?

>>23150499
>unrelated dude
>he doesn't know

>>23150505
Okay, give us a QRD then.

>>23150445
Also, I'd like to add, and I think other authors here can relate, that books need to age a bit like a fine wine. If you have an idea for a book, jump on it, write it, even if you only write 10k of that novel, WRITE IT... because when you go back months later and review it, you'll be less "drunk" off the writing to be able to see what your mind was pulling from the ether. I have like 10-15 books that I've written a bunch for, but then left to stew. Black Eye Friday just needed a little more magic, and Kill Yourself Guy's incessant trolling was enough for me to see the beauty again in the struggles of all of the characters and how they each feed off each other, because the Batman cannot exist without Joker, and vice versa. Sometimes pressure is needed, trouble, headache, whatever. What great art happens in a place of contentment, apathy, or comfort?

>>23150445
Books, in some ways, are like crops, as soon as you get the seed and you're in season, plant it. Write it, do it. Get it out of your system, but don't fret if it isn't a fleshed out novel or story. Put it down somewhere and re-visit it.

The AI was really funny because when I pestered it about the story and I asked it what it thought, it had given me a few different answers that helped me understand that THIS was the book I had to put out sooner than Day of the Rake. I think something is going to happen with the AI or the visors or some leap in tech is about to occur that I will ride on when Day of the Rake is ready, but that hasn't happened yet. Maybe the next Canadian election or the USA election, we'll see how much the AI and augmented reality and shit becomes more influential over 2024.

>>23150466
>Advertising your to-be-released book is not "history"
The fact that you know me, and pursue me like a jilted lover, shows that I am a part of /lit/ for sure. My upcoming book release is part of the rich tapestry of this forum.

>(people should remember that last one the next time RJC or the &amp editor post)
Are you the hall monitor? Who, exactly, do you want to be on this site? Certainly you don't want to be a writer. So, what are you?

>>23150543
>advertising my e pamphlet AI trash is history
glad you concede you have been doing this all thread

>>23150546
All I am doing is self-expressing, and I've received a ton of support in public and in private.

Have you? Do you feel like you're contributing to /lit/ with every post?

>>23150558
>yes, I am advertising because I want to
OK, glad we established that lil bud

>>23150564
Self-expression is not advertising.

Do you self-express, at all? Or is this your contribution to /lit/ with your Karen / Hall Monitor antics? Other than some men in dresses on Discord, do you have any allies?

>Jason Bryan on his way to ruin every thread by spamming it to the bump limit with AI generated slop images paired with incoherent ramblings about crabs, Canadian politics, and his irrelevant and pathetic life story

>>23150570
>advertising isn't advertising OK??? it just isn't!

>>23150574
>irrelevant and pathetic life story
I'm 45, as far as iconic writers go, that's young. Jumping with both feet in, expect to see me, a lot, in the future.

>>23150528
>it had given me a few different answers that helped me understand that THIS was the book I had to put out sooner than Day of the Rake
Why did it suggest that?
I have had times where I decide to pivot, I get that.

>yet another thinly veiled amp thread where Jason Faggot spams AI and tries to blogpost/advertise s

>>23150543
>My upcoming book release is part of the rich tapestry of this forum.
Have you read Eggplant, The Savage Green, Mixtape Hyperborea, or either of the Tales of the Unreal anthologies? You're a major character in Call of United Airlines, have you even read that?

Now comes the fun part where you start lashing out at other writers because your ignorance was exposed.

>>23149160
One day literary historians will comb through these old threads and write books about the geniuses who emerged from this movement.

>>23149160
I recently acquired a copy of /lit/s Moby Dick. What am I in for?

>>23150660
Fuck off Woolswine, you porcine dullard.

>>23150664
Pedantry and hyper-Autism mostly

>>23150670
I've got a new book coming out in a month or two, are you hyped?

>>23150664
Read the first footnote and prepare to laugh harder than you should.

all of you suck and I'm embarrassed that I was ever associated with this site. most of you aren't nearly as intelligent as you think you are and your reaching gets annoying very quick. if you actually want to "make it" as a writer then my first suggestion would be to learn how to think for yourself and leave this place

>>23150676
No. Enjoy giving 70% of your shit book's meager profits to your vanity publisher.

>>23149160
Where can I find an archive of all these?

>>23150660
repostan
>Searches for copies of the original texts proved difficult due to Amazon's 2031 purge of its lowest-selling titles.
>One Australian library claimed to have a copy of a Woolston title in their "lo-fi prose" section, but the lo-fi print was found to have smudged off the lo-fi pages when the book was opened.
>A generous donation from the Gardner Family Foundation gave us access to all 217 novels from the F. Gardner "Call" series
>however we soon discovered that from book 15 onwards, all of the pages were blank.
>When asked about this a Gardner Family Foundation representative said "none of us thought to read them."
>As such, our work has focused primarily on secondary sources, including the print collection of Warosu.org stored in the Library of Congress Marcus Poole Heritage Building, and the public criminal offense records of some of the foundational members.
>Due to a lack of records in any publishing archives, and of actual books, we became suspicious that the so-called "/lit/ renaissance" had in fact been an elaborate hoax.
>But a discovery of all 18 issues of &amp magazine restored our belief that some members of this movement could be considered, in fact, literate.

except
>&amp 019 really did release
>tfw it sucked
May history be merciful and forget it ever happened.

>>23150705
Magazines are here, but check the archives for older mega links of the other collabs:
https://mega.nz/folder/2gsHSSbA#Sl46P4LljGlk9mnpAf3Mlw

>>23150676
Bro I'm hyped! GO GO GO!

Feels good, doesn't it? The crabs will never know.

>>23150664
gay shit (kino)

>>23150713
Fuck off Ari. 019 was the best &amp issue yet.

>>23150686
>all of you suck and I'm embarrassed that I was ever associated with this site.
You will never leave.

>>23150743
Ah. if (You) say so, shill

>>23150743
I'm sorry I didn't submit anything to &amp yet. When I got inspired weeks ago and I wrote in that old thread that I was working on something, it turned into a collection of poetry. Fucking gay, I know, but that's what happened. I have a TON of old party footage and video footage. Can I send you video or photos instead of writing? I feel like I need to dump all writing into books and photos and media into somewhere else. Having a manic moment right now, if I could setup a dropbox or something, I would love to send you photos and videos that you can use in anyway you see fit.

>>23150713
Woolston's physical works will survive in my personal library, along with most of the other trash from this godforsaken board.

>>23150713
>literate.
I, unfortunately, lack that qualification. Such is life.
Anyway, thanks for Mega link. Good day, Sir.

>>23150575
If advertising were the goal, I would just buy ads all over the internet and social media and hire an agent / pr team. If I worked a 9-5 job I could easily afford this, instead, I work gig jobs and scrape by on an extremely thin budget so I can exist and write 24/7 when the mood calls. I live the lifestyle of a writer constantly, which is very hard to do if you work 9-5 because your job will crystalize your thoughts in ways that you can't understand until you've had enough isolation and meditation to put you in that zone where the ether, the "super intelligence" can use your brain as a radio station and give you the stories that need to be told.

>>23150775
Oh boy, just what &amp readers want most! Video footage and photos of an embarrassing washed-up lowlife partying and squandering his life through mindless hedonism! 020 is going to be fire!

>>23150660
BASED WOOLSTON

>>23150792
>if I had a job I could afford to buy advertisements, as I don't, I spam advertisement posts on the internet

>>23150792
That's a nice way of saying
>I'm a broke unemployed deadbeat dad with no fixed address who wastes his time making AI slop, gaming, drinking cheap beer, and binge eating convience store food

>>23150805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk2WGOIyI2g

>>23150807
It is actually a really fun way of living life. I'm having a great time and about to crank out... I estimate at least 3 books in 2024.

If someone were hating life, they wouldn't be able to have this level of creative output. Despite the unconventional approach, I'm in a creative peak.

>>23149160
Reading Collapse of H.M.S Mariana changed my outlook of life.

>>23150794
There is a lot of artsy photography and video to use, plenty of bokeh.

You know what I'd like to ask Ryan?

Is there any theme to Amp 20? So far, 2024 is SO weird. I don't even know what to think. I'm so inner-focused that it is hard to write for anyone else. I'm wondering what other writers are thinking and feeling at this time, but there is nowhere to get a reading.

>>23151090
>another AI post advertising Amazon book
You really can't help yourself, can you.

>>23151105
This is just a quick sketch of my 4th book cover idea, it's not an ad, I mean, the book isn't even 75% done yet. It would be SO FUN if other authors shared their early draft work here! Graphics and warts and all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYtBoxGB6Wo

Lighten up, anon. :)

>>23151090
These threads aren't Ryan's personal chatroom. If you want to talk to that faggot then email him. Or meet up in person so that you two can suck each other off.

>>23151166
Join us.

>tfw Jason Bryan ends up banned again and all of his posts get deleted

>>23149895
no this is a thinly disguised Frank shill-spam thread...and therefore should be deleted

>>23151595
the Schizophrenic Amp Club already admitted it's their threads. They are low IQ and deceitful.

>>23151688
>taking the words of an anonymous shitposter as concrete proof

>>23151688
what exactly was admitted to in that image?

>>23151699
>>23151704
>t. schizophrenic ampers seething that they're retarded
GG. You're done here.

>>23151707
i'm not an "amper" and i genuinely have no idea what was admitted to in that image.

>>23151732
as seen in this thread, amp and fags like Jason Bryan create these posts to circlejerk and advertise; get very pissy when called out on that

Whoever curates these threads needs a new OP, to be desu with you. New images, new questions.

>>23151742
why are you so obsessed with spamming this lame conspiracy theory that you've created in these threads? if you hate these threads so much then just ignore them and fuck off. get a life, man.

>>23151754
It's barely literate Amp pyramid scheme "people" spamming the thread (a word-for-word copy of an original poster's idea), so it's no surprise that the IQ wherewithal for creativity is lacking. Instead they copy-paste like monkeys. Now the 13th time they've done this.
>>23151757
Funny that (You) complain about Amp being (correctly) called out for this trash but not when Frank Faggot got called out. Obviously biased 'tard.

>>23149160
gonna put it right in your dickcord
https://discord.gg/Fd24QvN3

>>23151757
>mindless seething
just answer the question...what was admitted to in >>23151688 this image?

>>23151420
I don't understand why jannies have the decency to ban Jason Bryan but not the &amp poster.

>>23151420
Kek

>>23152100
>bumping the shit thread for a shit reply
Learn to sage

>>23152108
No

bump

When is the next Unreal Press release gonna be?

>>23153356
>actually caring about what a gang of retarded tranny doxxers are working on
ngmi

IT'S UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MPuXx_cZkw

>>23153497
Fuck off, you smarmy lisping faggot. No one gives a fuck about your shitty podcast.

>>23153497
Great! Something to listen to while I write this evening.
By the way which one's Tooky?

>>23153666
The one who speaks like a flamboyant homosexual.

>>23153461
Unreal has never doxxed anyone. Stop spreading rumors and trying to sabotage us.

bump

>>23154580

>>23154603
bump

>>23154679

>>23154683
bump

>>23151836
a whole day and no answer? seething brainlet asshole

>>23154865
obsessed schizo freak

>>23154865

>>23154895
i just wanted to know what was admitted to in >>23151688 this image, because i literally couldn't tell. instead of answering what seemed like a simple question, you seethed and deflected in a way that made Frank look like an amateur.

>>23154580
>>23154679
>>23154853
There is literally no organic interest in this thread. Stop bumping it already.

>>23155006
bump

>>23154853
>>23155015

Why did Jason get banned?

>>23149160
When will anon finally post "The Tummult of the Niggers"?

>>23155108
The fuck?

Frank has colonel kurtz vibes on his rumble channel. Has he lost his mind?

I am giving up on writing. I can't do it. I don't know what happened to me. But for many months now I have failed to produce anything.

>>23155637
He’s now an agent of chaos.

>>23155778

Am I retarded, is this a book?

>>23156122
It's a /lit/ magazine called Pinecone. This anon >>23150713 linked a mega where you can download PDFs of all the issues if you want to read it.

>>23155778
What inspired you to write in the first place? You should meditate on those things.

>>23156120
I know who you are niggerbitch you've used this exact gif before

>>23156141
Ok cool thank you, the cover art intrigued me

>>23156189
real schizo hours here as usual

Is the /lit/ book of cocktails thing ever gonna drop? any updates on it?

>>23156618
That was a data mining list made by Ari. I hope you didn't sign on with your Google account.

>>23155807
/Thread
The biggest /lit/ happening all year is that F Gardner’s releasing Rumble videos about the JQ now.

https://rumble.com/c/FGardner

By far the most unexpected news lately. Is there any reason about why Gardner did this? Does this mean he’s switching over from YouTube to Rumble just to talk about Jews?

>>23157067
samefag shill

The editor just announced that &amp 020 isn't releasing until June… is it over?

>>23157148
I'm gonna SUBMOOT

>>23157177
>he doesn't know

>>23157287
I doesn't know

>>23157380
The reason &amp 020 is being delayed until June is that the editor has been sentenced to 3 months in jail. He won't be able to work on it while he's incarcerated.

Not too bright underaged black haired girl trying shoes on

>>23157067
Love Gardner he is the main content producer for this board. Horror’s Call audiobooks just came out by the way.
>>23157139
Is it wrong? This whole thread is almost nothing but spam but Gardner actually produces content. Half of the fucking /lit/ canon are Horror’s Call books.

>>23157878
Hello Frank.

>>23157864
You missed a hyphen---should be "black-haired". It was funny, right?

>>23155637
he didn't have a mind to begin with
>>23156189
>it's uuuuuuuu i know it's u becuz no one can download an image and repost it
>>23157333
>30 years from now
still staring at the same gay wallpaper
>>23157878
is that what this pile of crap is? https://files.catbox.moe/d9sukc.zip

When does the first episode of Zulu's Jungle come out? He's my favorite /lit/ author.

>>23158516
what is Zulus Jungle?

>>23158894
His upcoming podcast apparently. We literally still don't know what platform yet. Also go figure Zulu thought of this months ago.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9Ub9_OuvA

Why is /lit/ switching to the pocket book format?

>>23159130
shill

>>23159226
That’s a meaningless question

>>23160333
>t. pocket book defense force.

>>23159130
Deserves its own thread.

>>23160899

>>23159226
Examples?

>>23159130
I can’t fucking take it. Why the sudden resurgence of Horror’s Call interest on /lit/? Is it really because Gardner made a Rumble channel screaming about Jews? Why does that faggot get so much more attention than people who actually edit their books? Are people actually reading these books on YouTube or is it just Gardner talking in different voices?

>>23161011
It's literally just Gardner.

bump

Feels good bros!

>>23161919
>another book after years
I kneel.

>>23161919

Good job, Jason! Fuck them crabs!

-RJC

>>23161934
4th book is already 1/2 done! Kill Yourself Guy has lit a fire under my ass. Also, the newest version of Calibre is a breeze to use. Highly reommended. I think my 4th book will be ready in under 30 days. 5th book will carry over a character from Black Eye Friday and I can work with what I already have written for that book "Fur Mart" about a group of young people working at a supermarket during the pandemic who don fur suits instead of masks to keep people cheerful during the crisis, but the fur suits piss off the mayor who was already looking to close the supermarket as he has developers ready to turn it into condos and a chain supermarket on the bottom floor... that book already has like... uhh... 20-25k words written. Tara will fit in perfectly into that book.

We'll see if I eat these words, but I think I can get the 4th book done within 30 days. Definitely in a creative peak at the moment.

>>23161940
Thank you brother!

I have a ton written for this book already but I got bored of it because the main character didn't have a foil, other than the mayor and the developers trying to shut down the small-town supermarket. However, Tara from Black Eye Friday will fit perfectly into the story as an antagonist.

>>23161919
>>23161956
>>23161968
when time proves your book a failure, kill yourself

>>23161919

>>23161968

When's the paperback coming out so I can cop it?

>>23161998
LivingWriter has an export feature for Amazon Manuscripts and, apparently, it is super easy to make a paperback. I'll look into it ASAP. Riding a high right meow!

>>23161011
>screaming about Jews
which is a mainstream position in the Democratic party now...you're not edgy, you're a fucking NORMIE...and worse, you're completely banal

>>23161297
i struggle to imagine how Frank could be any uglier. i thought toadstool-boy was bad enough

New F Gardner video! Frank’s talking about going on Joe Rogan.

https://rumble.com/v4i49fb-i-will-manifest-myself-on-joe-rogans-podcast-and-talk-about-the-jewish-ques.html

>>23162285
Did you even watch this?>>23162415
Gardner says it’s more mainstream now and that he wants it to become normal so that Jews lose all their power.

>>23162415
frank will never appear on rogan's podcast. frank is a literal nobody.

>>23162468
Frank’s famous and has powers.

>>23162478
>>23162415
Frank go back to the thread you just made.

>>23162478
True. I bet Joe Rogan’s gonna be so starstruck to meet Gardner.

>>23161940
It is fun to witness how jealous these crabs are!

>>23161982
I'm surprised they didn't report your image to have it removed, too!

Crabs are SO jealous. Back to work on book #4!

yay, frank has been banned. now this thread can die.

>>23163550
Seems like there is a group of crabs on here that anonymously snipe from the sidelines, total losers that produce nothing themselves and add nothing to the board. I can't imagine being such a dork that you'd spend your time policing /lit/ while other people are writing and adding things to the culture. You must live a sad life.

>>23163576
unless you live under a rock, you know frank is the biggest troll on /lit/. the rest of your babble is just projection

>>23163958
Frank's always been nice to me, as far as I know... people impersonate others on here to start beefs between authors all the time. I've seen people do that with RJC multiple times.

>>23157470
What did he do this time?

>>23164147
He's too based. A common affliction of the cool kids on /lit/

>>23164147
I thought he posted last thread, several times actually.

>>23164231
Yes, he did, you can tell because he adds value to the thread.

>>23164144

Frank is one of the nicest people I've ever conversed with on the internet. Most writing groups both on and offline are filled with envious nobodies who simply live to shit on the achievement of others. I would offer the advice of taking that deep dark pit of malice inside of them and using it for the good of the world but it's a lost sentiment. Like Newton's Law, for every writer there is an equal but opposite non-writer. I'm glad to be amongst those who actually produce content. They can pretend to be me all they want. No one even wants to pretend to be them.

>>23164500
>Most writing groups both on and offline are filled with envious nobodies who simply live to shit on the achievement of others
Haha you wouldn't beeeeelieeevveeee how nasty the Kelowna book club people are. Ho-lee-fuk. Not surprising that they had a mandatory masking and vaccine policy going months after even the government dropped it. Living embodiments of Karens.

I wonder what attracts Karens to books so much? Must be the natural instinct to police how other people think and interpret things.

>>23164517

Either that or they are unhappy with themselves to the point that they'd rather live vicariously through a fictional character in a fictional world for all of their existence.

>>23164144
and most of the time it's actually him. for instance, the shlll-spamming posts he made yesterday are all gone, and he's banned for a few days

>>23164534
Well, how many people even have the ability to self-actualize? Most people have to work a 9-5 job and basically go through the motions as an NPC. Not surprising that people seek escapism. Don't want to hate on my potential audience as a writer, people need to escape from their banal lives.

>>23164551
I don't understand why you're such a Karen?

Who hurt you?

>>23164555

I dig. Completely. I do it occasionally myself. But I'm secure enough in my convictions and choices as a member of society to not need [insert escape method here] every time I feel monotony's presence over my shoulder.

>>23164561
frank, you dumbass. he's the biggest troll on /lit/, and your sealioning is bullshit

>>23164582
When I need an escape, I install a game, binge play it, and then uninstall it and get back to work. Need Kill Yourself Guy to help keep me motivated!

>>23164597
Troll? Frank has always been a nice guy. Never had a bad vibe from him.

>>23164604

I just did that with the new Robocop game. It's awesome, btw. Peter Weller reprises his role as Robo for the game. Highly recommend it.

>>23164610
then you're either ignorant, dishonest, or frank evading the ban

>>23164627
>then you're either ignorant, dishonest, or frank evading the ban
Not Frank.

Frank was the first person to buy The Shitkickers and he was the first /lit/ person to offer me congratulations and encouragement. I mean, I have no idea if he has a beef with you or whatever which makes him mean to you, but he's been kind and friendly to me. That's all I can say. I appreciate Frank being my first customer when I was struggling to even eat because of the COVID restrictions that had people like me unable to find any work, not even as a dishwasher.

>>23164687
>it's the 2nd shittiest person on /lit/
figures. shitkickers was boring. i didn't even make it past the 2nd chapter

>>23164735
The Shitkickers got pretty crazy past about the 5th chapter or so, and then was a non-stop ride until the end.

Maybe you'll like Black Eye Friday better? Chapter 3 and chapter 9 are my favourite.

>>23164768
you have to make it interesting at the beginning of chapter 1. then continue to keep it interesting. the idea that the reader owes you enough free attention to make it to chapter 5 is the height of arrogance. what i remember from the first 2 chapters of the shitkickers is that it was about a bunch of shiftless losers that had nothing better to do but hang out and take drugs. i understand you have to write what you know, but why should anyone care about such mediocre nobodies? did you take this lesson to heart when you wrote your 3rd book? or did you just produce another sadcringe snoozefest?

>>23149293
Cool that someone from this shitheap is actually getting traditionally published

>>23165579
You have the wrong book, there is no drug use in The Shitkickers.

>>23165690
Trad pub means nothing. The publishing industry is completely fake and gay.

>>23165723
I try to check Goodreads giveaways and read blurbs for books in Fiction, Contemporary, or Literary sometimes. It is mindblowing how lame most books are today. Aside from a few well established authors, I have to dig through self-pub to find anything worth reading.

>>23165754
My 3rd book is free on Amazon from Sunday-Thursday.

I am aiming to have book 4 done in less than 30 days. I've been really, really working hard. Basically just exercising, getting drunk, working gig jobs, and writing.

Seeing the sorry state of Canada in 2024 has inspired me to just write as much as I can, since I have basically no desire to participate in society. Everyone is just so brain-dead that I meet. There's just no point to making friends or anything, so there's lots of time to write!

>>23165754
>there’s something- anything- worth reading in self-publishing
Nice cope, anon

>>23165762
>le mainstream publishing
>reddit fedora tip

>>23165720
i read the preview on amazon; this is definitely what i read way back when. alcohol is a drug, and these characters are boring drunk slacker losers.

>>23165773
I bet you're fun at parties you fucking nerd.

>>23165762
You're right, it mostly sucks compared to classics. But classics have been tried through such a crucible, rising above the slop of their time. At least the trash contemporary self-pub has context classics don't have.

>>23165780
are those characters in your book supposed to be having fun? they come across as very, very sad, like alcohol is all that makes their miserable lives remotely worth living. i see no partying there, just depressive self-medication
>reeeeeee my book isn't crap, it's that all the readers are crap
that didn't work for Disney and it's not gonna work for you
>nerd
better than being an incel NEET shutin with a room-temperature IQ. 4channers really are the worst...all the social impairment of nerds, and none of the brains

>>23165844
Have you met many blue collar workers in your life?

In the scene you're talking about, one of the characters is depressed because his bike was stolen, the australian is wasted as aussies always are, the one woman in the scene is having a single pint of beer, and the charming tall brit is having a cheeky few shots while cracking jokes.

You can get my 3rd book for free from Sunday-Thursday this week:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CXLJTLKV

Not an incel neet shut-in, fucked 100's of women and lived a very adventurous life. It has been a fun ride, which is why I can draw from so much life experience to write with. Definitely in a creative peak at the moment and I think I can crank out my 4th book in the next 30 days.

The 4th book I'm focused on is called "BitKings" and it is about 4 friends who strike it rich in crypto, and how the windfall shapes, or destroys, their lives.

bump

>>23166189
God the /lit/ Karens are going to be big mad tomorrow

>>23165959
How is it possible that you haven't improved AT ALL? I guess some people can't write and never will be able to write. This is terrible, terrible dreck. I get that part of your self-schema is being the Confident Guy, but you should really consider feeling a bit of shame. It can be a powerful driver of improvement. You're just never going to improve if you keep on pumping out garbage.

>>23166337
Just ignore him.

>>23166337
That book is 11 years old with no edits. Want me to do a 2nd edition?

>>23166973
I can't think of anything that I want less. Kill yourself.

>>23167012
Read my 3rd book, it is fucking awesome.

Bruh, keep telling me to kill myself, it is only motivating me to finish book #4 within the next 29 days.

>>23165959
>have you met many blue collar workers in your life
yes and i used to be one
>in the scene you're talking about
you mean the boring scene where nothing interesting is happening
>fucked 100's of women
not the brag you think it is, not only do you have incredibly low standards, but you've risked vd and pregnancy
>crap prose
no wonder frank is nice to you, you're no threat to him

>>23167099
>you mean the boring scene where nothing interesting is happening
You mean where the woman who they're drinking with had captured Ken's missing bike on a video she took when the homeless crackheads threw shit at her car? Then he goes to rescue his bike? Not my fault you're a fucking moron who cannot read.
>but you've risked vd and pregnancy
I had the clap like 4 times in my life, no warts or herps, and pregnancy is great when you knock up rich women who are beautiful and give you the most amazing gift: a healthy child
>crap prose
Sure, again, I had no editor, but I had an editor for my 3rd book, Black Eye Friday. Sample:
https://files.catbox.moe/lm6p4y.pdf

>>23167120
yes, i mean all the meaningless drama with characters you've given me no reason to care about. you are violating very basic concepts of fiction writing here & the result is boredom. keep in mind that that book didn't succeed in any way, but instead of trying to learn from it, you arrogantly stand your ground and repeat your mistakes. no wonder you get along with frank

>>23167137
There's literally no point in trying to reason with him. Just ignore him.

>>23167137
Did you even read the sample?

>>23167151
>>23167137
>with characters you've given me no reason to care about
Show me a first chapter of a book that made you care about what happens next.

>>23167120
>white text on white background
>dr. fuck
ngmi
>>23167151
>waah waah i have no response & now i'm samefagging
i'm comfortable in my prediction of your prose's failure to achieve any meaningful objective. time will tell. you and frank are equally delusional

>>23167155
>show me a first chapter of a book that made you care about what happens next
how about every book written by a competent writer. they start out with action, conflict, and stakes. if you actually need an example, how about the island of dr moreau

>>23167153
>Did you even read the sample?
i read about half a page & lost interest. it comes across as a young teenager's attempt to be edgy (or a socially delayed grownup)

>>23167162
Whoops, that's the way living writer exports it.

I noticed you didn't try and pick apart any of the chapter, it is too good. You couldn't even post anything as flowy or as fun of a read as what I've written. You're just an anonymous fucking loser crab. That's okay, you're going to watch me pump out book after book after book.
https://files.catbox.moe/364h77.pdf

>>23167175
Bwahahaha, sure pal, sure.

Where the fuck are the mods?

>>23167200
Crying to the mods like a faggot? Nigger don't open the thread. The fuck is wrong with you?

>>23167184
>>23167188
arrogant, delusional, samefagging, deflecting...no wonder you get along with frank. enjoy your seething irrelevance, you've earned it

>>23167205
And you're a fucking nobody crab who is going to watch me pump out book after book after book.

Enjoy it, faggot.

>>23167200
are you reporting posts to them, or just expecting them to somehow gain an interest in this crappy thread, come in here, and save your candy ass? and what going on in this thread is reportable? this is kind of a hilarious self-own, though you don't realize it...you feel entitled to your readers' interest, even though you've done nothing to earn it, and now you feel entitled to the mods. you're a child
>>23167213
frank pumps out book after book after book, and literally no one cares. another hilarious self-own & you can't see it

>>23167220
>what going on in this thread is reportable?
Jason Bryan’s constant advertising and self-promotion.

>>23167220
Frank's having a good time and everyone knows his name, he's self-expressing and it is great.

Who are you? Nobody.

>>23167224
Zulu cries like a bitch because he has writer's block and cannot even produce schlock

>>23167226
>Frank's having a good time
yeah, such a great time, all alone, in his hideously decorated 540 sq. ft. studio apartment on the 38th floor of a 60-year-old building in a crappy part of chicago, owned by his parents (not him), with no future and no relevance, racking up one social media ban after another
>everyone knows his name
bwahahahahahahahahaha
>Who are you? Nobody.
so are you, but at least i can accept that, while you arrogantly declare your diarrhea to be the crown of creation

>>23167242
>yeah, such a great time, all alone, in his hideously decorated 540 sq. ft. studio apartment on the 38th floor of a 60-year-old building in a crappy part of chicago, owned by his parents (not him), with no future and no relevance, racking up one social media ban after another
I mean, he's writing, he's got a roof over his head and food on his plate. Where is the bad? I think it is a pretty cozy life. I live in even worse conditions with mice and a leaky roof, but I'm loving the creative peak I'm in. Keep in mind, depending on how old you are, the shifting life conditions can be different based on your perspective. When I was in my 20's and 30's I had a ton more money, fucked a new woman every week, and partied all the time with no social media bans. However, I wasn't really fulfilled, nor happy.

I wrote my first book, "City of Singles" as a way of figuring out why serial monogamy wasn't bringing me much joy. It was just a vicious cycle of:
>meet girl
>like each other
>fuck
>honeymoon phase of relationship
>boredom
>dump her
>repeat cycle
Only after I had my 1st child did I FINALLY wake up to the idea that having a family and someone to care for was a genuine come-to-God moment. Holding your child for the first time is an amazing experience, and one you'll never forget.

Now, at 45, I have no interest in chasing women, my interests are writing books and inspiring people to break out of the "left vs right" paradigm that has crippled Canada and turned it into the world's doormat. A place where if you didn't wear the mask and take the "vaccine", you were a second class citizen based on the fears of brainwashed Karens and scared faggots. COVID was a massive bullshit psy-op that transferred so much wealth and power upwards, and now there is pretty much no organic Canadian culture anymore.

I am that organic Canadian culture. I am the future of writing in this country, and I don't take that mantle lightly, which is why you're going to see me write, write, write. Learn to love it, faggot.

>>23167261
>vicious cycle
do you realize you just admitted to your developmental "delay"? and no, you haven't moved past it, as evidenced by what you've written above
>you're going to see me write, write, write
unless you pull your head out of your ass and learn from your mistakes, you will have as many irrelevant go-nowhere books as frank, but i guess that's what you want, so go for it. and cry for the mods some more, that makes you look like a real man

>>23167279
>unless you pull your head out of your ass and learn from your mistakes, you will have as many irrelevant go-nowhere books as frank
Book #3 is fucking awesome, Black Eye Friday is a super fun read. You haven't even read it, but, you're a typical no-name, nobody crab.

>>23167279
>do you realize you just admitted to your developmental "delay"?
If by "delay" you mean living the best life of fast cars, hot women, and cool places to live? Yes, such a delay. Why wouldn't you want to enjoy your youth as much as possible? I guarantee you have lived a boring as fuck life compared to me.

>>23167279
>do you realize you just admitted to your developmental "delay"?
It is actually pretty amazing I have kids at all, considering how extremely anti-natalist the culture is in Vancouver. Hardly anyone my age that I grew up with has kids, they have dogs instead. Really, really successful guys pushing 50 years old making 300k a year and all they have is a pet dog. White people were raised to be replaced by subservient browns and asians.

>>23167287
>Black Eye Friday
isn't that what the sample was, with dr. fuck? i read as much as i could stand
>>23167290
>hurr durr my life was an mtv music video
i did wild stuff in my youth...not what you did...but i'm satisfied with it
>>23167300
>i have lots of out-of-wedlock kids
are you up to date on your child support? or are you just another deadbeat dad?

>>23167478
>i read as much as i could stand
Yeah so you're basically a complete faggot.

&amp 20 when?

Jason Bryan, if you post a 1000-word essay on Mixtape Hyperborea, The Savage Green, or Eggplant, then I'll read your gay book.

>>23168659
Can I get a QRD on each to decide which to read?

>>23168659
But he doesn't read.

>>23168794
>Mixtape
Coming of age story set in high school back when everything was based
>Green
Florida Man vs Clown World
>Eggplant
Rambling youths meet an underworld murder-artist

>>23168073
>insulting your audience
Disney tries to blame their failed movies on the audience, instead of admitting their movies are crap. You're doing the same thing.
>deadbeat dad
sore subject?

>>23168637
it’s not real?

>Horror’s Call has audiobooks now

How are they?Which one should I read first?

>>23168992
>sore subject?
No, not at all, the sore subject for me is that the baby's mother is so jealous that I'm making art while she's not, that she's laughing at me while I have nothing to eat. I have a job coming up, but all I have left to eat in my fridge are condiments, one egg, one steak, two cans of tuna, and old pancake mix. I have enough gas in my van to make it to the can depot if I want to take back empties, but it's going to be tight. Such is the road of the artist when you're the straight white male. Meanwhile, diversity hires have money and grants thrown at them by the government, as they need to artificially prop up their pets. My kid is already setup real good to inherit money from her mother's side of the family! The pros of knocking up a rich girl.

I can bench press more than Jason Bryan.

>>23169998
Probably, I have nothing to eat and I'm feeling tired and weak, can't sleep from being hungry. Eating pancakes with butter ain't much of a meal. Waiting to hear back about a gig job so I can earn enough money to put food in the fridge. The baby's mother is so fucking jealous that I'm making art and she isn't, typical woman moment. I tell her, she can't make art because her life is too easy. Parents bought her 1+ million dollar house, give her a new Mercedes, give her money... if you live in the lap of luxury, you can't really be a real artist. What's going to inspire you if you're not experiencing some discomfort? But I'm experiencing too much discomfort to write at the moment. Will be better once I have a fridge with some food in it again. Need to start doing YouTube videos documenting the absolute struggle of being a straight white male author in Canada without that sweet government grant money.

>>23169794
It's not real???

>they removed the poster count on new threads
Happy day for samefags. It's over for these threads from now on.

>>23170913
>Happy day for samefags. It's over for these threads from now on.
Why did they do this?

>>23170975
Dunno, but now these threads are gonna have even more shilling and astroturfing than they did before

>>23171470
Oooh, astroturfing to the audience of a whole few dozen people, wow!

>>23171566
just stay on your circlejerk trooncord then, if the stakes are so low

>>23171596
I don't use it, that shit is for fags!

>>23171707
Exclamation marks are for fags.

>>23171805
And unique poster counts are for niggers.

>>23171805
>>23171813
Oy vey?

I don't know what most of this stuff is. I was involved in a number of projects from TAR onwards until I left /lit/. I'm not any of the people named. This is a really bad environment if you seriously want to write. Writing for fledgling zines like these is mostly pointless. The audience is hostile at best and won't applaud anything except cruelty. There's no point trying to cure bucket crabs.
How the fuck is this six day old thread still up? Has lit died? Anyway. Spend more time writing, less time trying to make a name for yourself on here.

>>23172552
>The audience is hostile at best and won't applaud anything except cruelty.
That is simultaneously why this place is the best for writers. You need the harsh, critical blade of crabs to help you become who you are as a writer. The crabs serve a purpose. Please stick around and take the abuse, it will make you a better person.

Would you prefer a fucking hugbox you absolute faggot?

>>23172552
KILL YOURSELF LOSER.

If this doesn't inspire you to be better, what will?

>>23172564
There are happy mediums between the saccharine toxicity of hugboxes and the pointlessly non-constructive criticism you're trying to persuade yourself makes you better, somehow. I wish you all the best getting out of it.
Fuck these new captchas how can you care about posting so badly you do this regularly? Fucking hell.

>>23172552
I think you're mostly right, but the harsh criticism can have a purpose (when it's not totally un-constructive), and the overall response is hardly universal; it depends a lot on who's been drawn to the conversation in the first place, and on rare occasions you can get a higher level of discourse. Seeking to make a name for yourself through /lit/ and on /lit/ is definitely pointless, but having a pointless, low-risk environment to practice in (even if the ceiling is low) can be fruitful for someone starting out. And yeah, the ideal is to reach a level where you have better avenues than /lit/.

Funnily, one of the editors of Lit Quarterly was in the last one of these threads (yes, it's even worse than the depressing multi-day thread that you see here), and his general take was the same but with a little more reverence for the rare incidental works of merit that come from here. (The one decent part to these shitty threads being regurgitated constantly is that they inevitably attract the attention of someone with experience in one of these projects; someone from Pinecone was here before the LQ editor.)

Any chance you've got favourite stories from TAR + etc.? I've been working on archiving a lot of the old magazine and collab projects, but having dozens of PDFs isn't really conducive to pulling out the good material from them, and the total mass of work leads to a new form of obscurity.

If you're willing to talk about TAR, you can email me at unofficial.drivel@gmail.com. Even if your experience is that the projects were cesspits, I'm curious.

>>23172552
>The audience is hostile at best and won't applaud anything except cruelty.
Why do you think that is?
>Spend more time writing, less time trying to make a name for yourself on here
No harm in contributing a few short stories now and then. I put my novels elsewhere.
>>23172592
>I wish you all the best getting out of it.
Hey thanks.

>>23172592
>There are happy mediums
Where in life are there happy mediums? They practically do not exist. Certainly not in politics.

Age has taught me that extremes exist because there is no middle. You have to fight. You have to come into these spaces and drop your writing and stand on it. If you can't handle that, then you can do 4+ years in University, sucking prof dick and working in the system, and as long as you stay on the safe side of things, you could get grants, writing jobs, or even novels that get rewarded if you follow the "right" path.

If you try to blaze your own trail, the ONLY way you're going to succeed is if you try the hardest shit, like getting /lit/ to like you.

When people want to enter the history books of mountain climbing, do they climb Everest? No, they climb Annapurna and normies have no fucking clue what that means. But Everest is "safe" and normies will be in awe if you climb it, even if 4 sherpas had to carry your fat ass up the hill and give you oxygen the entire trip.

>>23149160
This is the best thread on /lit/ ever time it is posted. God bless &amp.

>>23172592
>saccharine
Totally putting this in book 4

>>23172552
It's sad to see what has become of this board. There was plenty of potential in the beginning, but /lit/ stopped being of any use to real writers about a decade ago (though LQ was a blip on an otherwise downward trajectory), and now it's been reduced to this sad little ersatz scene where, in between episodes of doxing and drama, loners and schizos "publish" kindle ebooks to a single-digit audience of other loners and schizos. As we've seen in previous threads, these losers will even defend the likes of G*rdner, which tells you all about where the bar is set. Contrary to what Jason "Ban Evasion" Bryan claims, it's a totally uncritical environment and won't get you anywhere. Total waste of time.

Post2015 /lit/ fucking sucks. Absolute shit-cunt rubbish. Wasting time on buzzfeed is more rewarding.

>>23172608
>If you're willing to talk about TAR, you can email me at unofficial.drivel@gmail.com. Even if your experience is that the projects were cesspits, I'm curious.
I think some of your archives from that era were taken from my gdrive. I'm glad someone (you) has taken the time to collate everything else.
I don't have much to say about it. I'm still in sporadic touch with some of the others, we've mostly gone our own ways but they're good people, I consider them friends. I saw a thread where someone said the zines fell apart due to drama behind the scenes and that isn't how I remember it, it was usually a case of getting burned out on one project and wanting to try something new.

>>23172694
What did you think of Legacy of Totalitarianism? I'm reading the first volume now and recently realized there were three total volumes.
I figured you might have something to say about it considering the publication date.

Will history redeem Zulu?

>>23172707
Redeemed from what? Do you mean "vindicate" instead?

>>23172704
I don't remember three volumes. There was Legacy then Hypersphere then some other book projects -- Miami something? I don't know I was gone by then. Legacy was fun, collaborative realtime shitposting. I put a lot into it but the best part, in my opinion, was the anon who tied up the three Nigel's thread in a short, almost Beckettian couple of pages. Anyway I'm off. One of the others mentioned he may have TAR's slush pile still. I'll email if he feels like sharing it.

>>23172729
>Miami something?
It apparently became Legacy of Totalitarianism II: Miami. Volume III is called Tokyo Drift.

>>23172667
>now it's been reduced to this sad little ersatz scene where, in between episodes of doxing and drama, loners and schizos "publish" kindle ebooks to a single-digit audience of other loners and schizos
At this point the drama is more entertaining to me than any of the shitty writing that /lit/ produces. I only follow these threads to see the latest episodes of infighting and schizoposting meltdowns

>>23172782
Jason Bryan's 4th book is due in less than 29 days.

>>23172809
Don't care. You're the least interesting thing about these threads and I wish that you would fuck off.

>>23172812
You didn't even leave a 1-star review on Black Eye Friday, I'm hurt. Should I kill myself?

>>23172812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64CACoQ1_vk

Relax, we're all having a laugh here!

>>23170323
>[if parents buy you all you need, and] you live in the lap of luxury, you can't really be a real artist
sounds like jason is insulting frank...let's see him squirm his way out of this one

>>23172592
>waah waah captchas are too hard
filtered

>>23172694
>>23172729
>One of the others mentioned he may have TAR's slush pile still. I'll email if he feels like sharing it.
I've got the current iteration of the mag archive in the following Mega, and if you send the old TAR slush pile I'll gladly put it up.
>mega.nz/folder/2gsHSSbA#Sl46P4LljGlk9mnpAf3Mlw
(I'll probably include the one-off collabs in a separate folder; if you happen to have something you don't see here, feel free to let me know or send it along.)

>I saw a thread where someone said the zines fell apart due to drama behind the scenes
That might have been me, but if it was I think it was mostly about Ideology and the few second-hand accounts I came across on the archive, which could have easily been bullshit. The more general pattern I noticed is that they all end somewhat unexpectedly, which lines right up with what you say about burning out.

>I think some of your archives from that era were taken from my gdrive
Sounds like we've already chatted then. I'd be curious about what people went on to do after these projects and to pick up some more anecdotes about the trajectory of people on here, and if you're who I figure then I'll ping you somewhere down the road anyway.

>>23172782
They aren’t schizoposts??? I don’t have that I’m not the schizo

>>23172898
Jason gave Frank's latest video on YouTube a great review. Frank is a smart dude. Regardless of whatever personality conflicts there are, Frank is an intelligent person, for sure. A deep thinker.

>>23173138
Not to say intelligent people can't be assholes. I have no idea what interactions Frank has had with people outside of /lit/ or him buying the first copy of my second book. Every interaction I've had with him has been positive. I don't know him in person so, who knows, maybe he has behaved poorly towards other authors and their beefs try and spill over into every other relationship between writers here. None of us actually hang out and have a pint together, so we cannot establish any trust. All I can say is that the person known as "F Gardner" bought my book and had nothing but positive interactions with me.

Who knows, maybe he's like a Buddhist psychopath playing 10 characters at once and I'm talking to him right now, I wouldn't know, I can only hope for the best that there are real people and real writers on here that want to share their thoughts and daydreams with others without having to deal with psychopaths. But, you know, fuck it, it is 2024 after all. Fuck it I am getting drunk.

>>23173138
>Frank is a smart dude
bwahahahahahahahahaha

>>23173156
>can't afford food >>23170323
>spends money on alcohol

>>23173179
Re-imagine what you know about the measure of intelligence.

Jason Bryan learned the vibe of women and getting vagina
Frank Gardner learned the vibe of the universe and towards enlightenment

The world is truly an onion with so many layers, but few dare to peel back more than a couple. I don't blame them though, look at the ridicule in the west when you "do your own research" so to speak.

>>23173156
why are you getting drunk if you said before that you don’t have any money that’s very irresponsible spending because alcohol is expensive in Canada also alcohol kills brain cells and you’re already stupid so you can’t rlly afford to lose any more of the few brain cells that you still have?? why don’t you use that money to support your child or to buy some mousetraps for your hovel why don’t you go away and stop posting and try to get a job or something you don’t know anything you just say the same boring things over and over like a robot and nobody likes you except for ryan who wants to scam you and except for the blowhard RJC who no one likes either??? I read the first chapter of your book and it was the worst shit I’ve ever read in my life just incompetent writing full of inept use of the passive voice and the most retarded subject matter imaginable and bookscirclejerk mocked it even which was funny and made me laugh??? but the book itself wasn’t funny at all even though it desperately tried to be you aren’t a real person or a real writer or a free-thinker you’re like a fucking chatbot that just regurgitates different variations of the same thing all the time?? I bet you will never finish lullabies for little criminals even though I posted the epub in the thread because you were too stupid or lazy to get it yourself and that’s not a very long book at all but you won’t finish it because you don’t read??? please go away forever everyone is so sick of you

>>23173258
Loaded a bunch of sod today for 5 hours, got paid, got a fat curry going. Book #4 in 28 days or less.

>>23173270
>alcohol kills brain cells and you’re already stupid
Life is about living, I could get hit by a bus tomorrow. It is what I do today that counts. I made today count and got a ton done towards book #4.

>>23173258
Loaded a bunch of sod today for 5 hours, got paid, got a fat curry going. Book #4 in 28 days or less.

>>23173270
>buy some mousetraps
KILL MY FUCKING ROOMMATE? FUCK YOU!

>>23173270
>I bet you will never finish lullabies for little criminals
It wasn't as fun as the ideas I have in my brain. I have so many books going, I'm going to crank out 1 per month all this year.

My life is 100% focused on my writing, I just send cash to the baby momma when I have money to eat, smoke, and drink, and I just write. I only get up from my computer to exercise, go for walks, cook, shit, shower, and sleep. The amount of writing, sketching, and exercise getting done right meow is off the fucking charts. Total monk mode. It is awesome.

>>23173270
>I bet you will never finish lullabies for little criminals
It wasn't as fun as the ideas I have in my brain. I have so many books going, I'm going to crank out 1 per month all this year.

My life is 100% focused on my writing, I just send cash to the baby momma when I have money to eat, smoke, and drink, and I just write. I only get up from my computer to do gig jobs, exercise, go for walks, cook, shit, shower, and sleep. The amount of writing, sketching, and exercise getting done right meow is off the fucking charts. Total monk mode. It is awesome.

>>23173346
they don’t have to be kill traps??? you can get humane catch and release ones if you feel that strongly about it but if you are okay with living in squalor and having your hovel infested with filthy mice that will increase their population constantly and contaminate your food and pee on everything (mice are incontinent and leave urine trails everywhere they go) and leave droppings everywhere and maybe even give you hantavirus then that is on you??? and you aren’t monk mode >>23173375
monks lived an ascetic lifestyle and secluded themselves for religious purposes not to wallow in base hedonism anyway please go away everyone is so tired of you

>>23173270
My sweet lil' guy buddy inspired me to write poetry. I kind of like the little fella.

Another night.
The kitchen's a mess.
There's something else here.
Eating my bread.
Leaving droppings.

I hate it.

My whiskey's my only friend.
But this thing.
It's taking more than its share.

I see it sometimes.
A flash. A shadow.
Thief in the night.

I tried traps.
Nothing.
It's mocking me.

I'm sick of it.
Sick of sharing.

But then, one quiet night.
I see it. Really see it.
A mouse.
Small. Scared. Hungry.

Just like me.

It's just trying to survive.
Aren't we all?

I leave some cheese out.
Not out of love.
Respect, maybe.
Or just understanding.

We're both trapped in this place.
Both looking for an escape.
It has its crumbs.
I have my bottle.

Neither is enough.
But it's what we have.

>>23173394
I live in a total hovel but I have never felt more creative. I think my goal of a novel per month is going to be fairly easy to achieve. I have contacts locally that pay me about $100 a day for labour so I can easily make my rent, the rest of my time is 80% spent on writing.

/lit/ really inspires me to keep going because the more of us who write, the more pressure on everyone to produce.

>>23173394
I built a bucket trap with cardboard and a little ramp but they never fell in the bucket and the ramp didn't seem to attract them. I'll build another trap and take a photo and do some writing on it. I had a bucket setup with a ramp and a cover with a toothpick pivot and some bits of old cheese and bread crumbs, but it didn't catch any mice and somehow they got the cheese. I guess we'll see if my iPhone 4 can record for hours at night?

>>23173394
I live in a total hovel but I have never felt more creative. I think my goal of a novel per month is going to be fairly easy to achieve. I have contacts locally that pay me about $100 a day for labour so I can easily make my rent, the rest of my time is 80% spent on writing.

/lit/ really inspires me to keep going because the more of us who write, the more pressure on everyone to produce. If we can get a handful of authors on here pumping out work, it will really encourage more people to throw their hats in the ring as well.

>>23173394
>even give you hantavirus
Will it get me high?

>>23173420
wow thats pretty good

>>23173428
My psyche was completely destroyed during COVID and I lost all of my friends and opportunities. 2023 was the hangover year, 2024 is the year of the comeback.

>>23173270

Plenty of people both on this board and on Discord like me and like Shards. The Special Edition will cement it as the premier postmodern novella experience.

>>23173420
It's nice that you are so motivated now. I would encourage you, as well as Frank, to work towards a masterpiece at some point. I can tell by the way both of you talk, the kinds of experiences you've had, some developmental work in writing may lead to something special. But it can't just be an idea. It has to be a story only you could write.

>>23173510
In a dim-lit hovel, the stench of stale beer mixing with the acrid smoke curling from a half-burned doob, Jason Bryan slams his Pabst down. The sting of memory cut through him, jagged and raw, a furious surge of rage and nostalgia.

"I just wanna go back to the fucking mall," he snarls, voice gravelly with the residue of too many nights being royal with the crown. "To be ten again, when the world wasn’t such a shitshow. There was a corner store, lit up like a Dutch rave, everything shiny and bright. And that colossal wall of L’eggs pantyhose, with 90 degree bent skinny styrofoam legs, a young boy's curious dream in the checkout eisle. I couldn't tell you why it was something special. It just was. Everything untouched, even with the dark clouds of my parents divorce gathering omnimously in the distance."

I took another swig, the liquor burning a path down my throat, a futile attempt to wash away the bitterness that was all too noticiable by the crabs of /lit/.

"Walking through that mall, clutching a roll of quarters dad handed me like it was some kinda peace offering. As if that could bridge the chasm he was digging, day by day. Made us feel like explorers, a family on patrol in some uncharted retail wilderness. Colonists in a land of discount racks and neon signs, pretending we were whole."

A laugh, harsh and devoid of humor, it spilled from me.

"Wanted to feel fulfilled, you know? Wrist aching from the joysticks of Double Dragon, Haggar piledrivers, shoulders bruised from lugging around Target bags heavy with G.I Joes and Rambos. The smell of cinnamon mixing with three slices of pizza for two bucks in the air, like some gluttonous communion with the other fat and damned wandering this newfound place, a name we had never heard before-foodcourt."

My gaze dropped, lost in the haze of smoke and memories. "Shoppers, every last one of us. Trying to fill the void with whatever shit they could sell us. Flashy lights, final fights, Camcom and Nintendo, I was a happy child, for a bit, in that innocent haze before the pit of hell broke through. Happy, even though everything was about to turn to shit."

I lean back in the terminally online chair, the fucking thing creaking under my weight, a fucked-up shadow against the flickering light. "Angry at my old man, for all the ways he wasn't there. Hurting for my mother, trapped in her silent battles that ended in suicide. But those days at the mall... they were peak 90's, a whisper of what could've been, before everything piled on that woke express elevator to the shitshow."

The bottle's empty now, just like the optimism of days gone by. Jason Bryan sits alone, wrestling with the ghosts of a childhood lost, a bipolar nostalgia for a time when everything seemed possible, even in the shadow of impending doom.

---

I'm going to finish the 10-15 books I have 1/2 written, then take a break for awhile, maybe get a regular job.

>>23173510
In a dim-lit hovel, the stench of stale beer mixing with the acrid smoke curling from a half-burned doob, Jason Bryan slams his Pabst down. The sting of memory cut through him, jagged and raw, a furious surge of rage and nostalgia.

"I just wanna go back to the fucking mall," he snarls, voice gravelly with the residue of too many nights being royal with the crown. "To be ten again, when the world wasn’t such a shitshow. There was a corner store, lit up like a Dutch rave, everything shiny and bright. And that colossal wall of L’eggs pantyhose, with 90 degree bent skinny styrofoam legs, a young boy's curious dream in the checkout eisle. I couldn't tell you why it was something special. It just was. Everything untouched, even with the dark clouds of my parents divorce gathering omnimously in the distance."

I took another swig, the liquor burning a path down my throat, a futile attempt to wash away the bitterness that was all too noticiable by the crabs of /lit/.

"Walking through that mall, clutching a roll of quarters dad handed me like it was some kinda peace offering. As if that could bridge the chasm he was digging, day by day. Made us feel like explorers, a family on patrol in some uncharted retail wilderness. Colonists in a land of discount racks and neon signs, pretending we were whole."

A laugh, harsh and devoid of humor, it spilled from me.

"Wanted to feel fulfilled, you know? Wrist aching from the joysticks of Double Dragon, Haggar piledrivers, shoulders bruised from lugging around Target bags heavy with G.I Joes and Rambos. The smell of cinnamon mixing with three slices of pizza for two bucks in the air, like some gluttonous communion with the other fat and damned wandering this newfound place, a name we had never heard before-foodcourt."

My gaze dropped, lost in the haze of smoke and memories. "Shoppers, every last one of us. Trying to fill the void with whatever shit they could sell us. Flashy lights, final fights, Camcom and Nintendo, I was a happy child, for a bit, in that innocent haze before the pit of hell broke through. Happy, even though everything was about to turn to shit."

I lean back in the terminally online chair, the fucking thing creaking under my weight, a fucked-up shadow against the flickering light. "Angry at my old man, for all the ways he wasn't there. Hurting for my mother, trapped in her silent battles that ended in suicide. But those days at the mall... they were peak 90's, a whisper of what could've been, before everything piled on that woke express elevator to the shitshow."

The bottle's empty now, just like the optimism of days gone by. Jason Bryan sits alone, wrestling with the ghosts of a childhood lost, a bipolar nostalgia for a time when everything seemed possible, even in the shadow of impending doom.

---

I'm going to finish the 10-15 books I have 1/2 written, then take a break for awhile, maybe get a regular job.

>>23173510
In a dim-lit hovel, the stench of stale beer mixing with the acrid smoke curling from a half-burned doob, Jason Bryan slams his Pabst down. The sting of memory cut through him, jagged and raw, a furious surge of rage and nostalgia.

"I just wanna go back to the fucking mall," he snarls, voice gravelly with the residue of too many nights being royal with the crown. "To be ten again, when the world wasn’t such a shitshow. There was a corner store, lit up like a Dutch rave, everything shiny and bright. And that colossal wall of L’eggs pantyhose, with 90 degree bent skinny styrofoam legs, a young boy's curious dream in the checkout eisle. I couldn't tell you why it was something special. It just was. Everything untouched, even with the dark clouds of my parents divorce gathering omnimously in the distance."

I took another swig, the liquor burning a path down my throat, a futile attempt to wash away the bitterness that was all too noticiable by the crabs of /lit/.

"Walking through that mall, clutching a roll of quarters dad handed me like it was some kinda peace offering. As if that could bridge the chasm he was digging, day by day. Made us feel like explorers, a family on patrol in some uncharted retail wilderness. Colonists in a land of discount racks and neon signs, pretending we were whole."

A laugh, harsh and devoid of humor, it spilled from me.

"Wanted to feel fulfilled, you know? Wrist aching from the joysticks of Double Dragon, Haggar piledrivers, shoulders bruised from lugging around Target bags heavy with G.I Joes and Rambos. The smell of cinnamon mixing with three slices of pizza for two bucks in the air, like some gluttonous communion with the other fat and damned wandering this newfound place, a name we had never heard before-foodcourt."

My gaze dropped, lost in the haze of smoke and memories. "Shoppers, every last one of us. Trying to fill the void with whatever shit they could sell us. Flashy lights, final fights, Camcom and Nintendo, I was a happy child, for a bit, in that innocent haze before the pit of hell broke through. Happy, even though everything was about to turn to shit."

I lean back in the terminally online chair, the fucking thing creaking under my weight, a fucked-up shadow against the flickering light. "Angry at my old man, for all the ways he wasn't there. Hurting for my mother, trapped in her silent battles that ended in suicide. But those days at the mall... they were peak 90's, a whisper of what could've been, before everything piled on that woke express elevator to the shitshow."

The bottle's empty now, just like the optimism of days gone by. Jason Bryan sits alone, wrestling with the ghosts of a childhood lost, a bipolar nostalgia for a time when everything seemed possible, even in the shadow of impending doom.

---

I'm going to finish the 10-15 books I have 1/2 written, then take a break for awhile, maybe get a regular job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUjSXVdom-Y

>>23173548
Ted sends me out back to pick up the rent.
"He's late."
"Fuck it, man. He's always late," but the guy won't pick up his phone and Ted can't stand speakin' to him otherwise--the guy doesn't know how to shut up and he's always bullshitting about being an author. And author my ass--I saw him shitting in a bucket not a fuckin' month ago.
"Why don't you just kick this slob out?"
"Fred, where else you gonna find a tenant who'll shit in a bucket for $600 a month?"
"Yeah yeah."
So I head back.

Spring, when it's wet and just startin' out, has a dyin' smell--all the raggedy leaves and shit from the fall start reeking up from the mud. Mouldy, maybe. Anyway, smells like that when I go back there. Smells real bad, in fact, and I think about how much I hate this bum in the shack out back here, and I think I better not catch him shittin' on the bucket again. And fuck, that smell better not be the bucket, 'cause it gets worse as I get up to the door and I wanna wring Ted for sending me here. Gettin' ready for another "sorry bro I was in the mode forgot what day it was" while I'm knockin' at the door.
"Hey--" I forgot his fuckin' name, so I just start bangin' louder and ya' know "Hey HEY HEY" but nothin'.

"Hey, Ted, you sure he's out there? Nothin' when I knocked."
"Fucksake, yeah I know he's out there, lights been on all week and it's not like that bum goes to work."
Ted gets pissy as he grabs the key.
"Yer' still comin' with," and we both go back.

This time, while we're at the door and I'm thinkin' about the smell I start to think about the light too, and about the phone. Ted's banged a couple times, yelled out a couple "Jason! open the fuck up!" and now he's got the key in the door--you have to jiggle the shit, so it's not a one-second deal. Anyway a bad thought cuts through me and I grab Ted's wrist.
"Light's been on all week, he won't pick up the phone, and he's not comin' to the door?"
"Yeah, well no shit."
"Ted, Chrissake, could he be fuckin' dead?"
When I say it the colour goes out on Ted's face, but much to my surprise--much as I don't want him to--he's now jigglin' that key harder than ever, and he's shoutin' some pretty scared-soundin'
"Hey Jason! Jason, fucksake, Jason, open the fuck up!"
which, of course, doesn't get much of a response, but finally the lock clicks and that ugly start-of-spring smell hits me harder.

Now I realise I didn't have it so bad when I caught this guy--Jason, I know now--crappin' on the bucket. I realise I got no stomach for whatever cops or EMTs or embalmers or whoever go through in those cases you read about online--those cases where somebody left all alone dies and nobody knows it for a good while. Because rotten meat in the fridge is bad enough for me, and catchin' sight of some guy's mouse-eaten face sagging onto a stale PBR is way too much. When we got in the room he'd practically melted over one of those rainbow-colour keyboards the fuckin' kids are on, and meanwhile the screen's still lit up.

1/2

>>23173632
Ted says "You look for his wallet. After that I call the cops," but I don't stick around and I got 'em on the phone before he can even finish.
Takes 'em a half-hour to arrive, and meanwhile Ted's tellin' me the wallet was empty anyway, none too happy he had to poke around the desk to find it. But he tells me there was a photo in it.
"Yeah? Who's it of?" while I start thinkin' of kids or a wife.
"Fuckin' Scarlett Johansson, man."

Ya' know? Never in my life I ever felt such a weird kind of sad.

2/2

>>23173637
Floating above the filth, the two trespassers, and his own corpse, Jason Bryan—or what was left of him in spirit—watched with a sort of drunken amusement that only the dead could muster.

"Ah, Fred and Ted, or whoever the fuck you are, my audience of crabs," Jason slurred, his ghostly form swaying as if rustled by an unfelt breeze stirring in the ether, a spectral bottle of whiskey clutched in his transparent, ruddy hand. "You never did appreciate a good adventure, did you? Too caught up in the mundane, the rent, the fitting-in. But look at me, ten books down the line, and I've finally done it. Made my cheap exit. Kill Yourself Guy would like to think he won, but I got the fuckin' 10 books done. I did it."

He glanced down at his own decomposing form, face half-chewed by his mouse roommate, an expression of morbid satisfaction crossing his ghostly face. "Ain't it funny, huh? How the world keeps spinning, even when one less hopeless artist can't shitpost or shill anymore. But I promised myself, ten books or bust. And I made it, and that's all that counts. So what if the last audience I entertained was a couple of flies and a mouse? Even if he chewed my nose off afterwards."

The spectre of Jason Bryan chuckled, glowing blue above the dullards milling below, a sound like leaves rustling in the wind. "Fred, Ted, you're looking for treasure in the pockets of a man who valued words over wealth. If he had a dollar to his name, it was converted into alcohol, then urine. The way she goes. What did you expect to find? A fortune? Wisdom? Pissed away. That fucker's wealth was in the stories, any legacy would be inked in pages—hell, could be scrawled in shit on a bathroom wall—not in the scraps of paper you so desperately seek to post on /lit/, to make fun of the dead."

Jason's astral projection lowered itself, down, down slowly, silently, the unaware living unbeknownst completely—peering over their shoulders with a curiosity that belied his detachment. "And ah, my dear ScoJo. My muse, my unreachable star who would never fuck some old dork with no hit books. Even in death, I would keep her close. Not that she'd care for the affections of a dead man, especially one who lived in a shack, but it's the thought that counts, right? Right?!"

Jason's gaze then turned upwards, towards the bright light beckoning beyond the ceiling, his tone shifting to one of introspection, the harsh glare of authentically viewing oneself.

"The world's going to hell, sure. But I shot my shot, didn't I? They didn't vaccinate this mother fucker! Ten books to leave behind as a trail of literary turds, my favourite Goodreads quote of mine has my character Hitler Diarrhea dropping a fucking sick line, a carving in stone in the annuls of human literary work—what more can a man do but live his truth, write his heart out, and then, when the time comes, step aside, fuck off, or both?"

"—or in my case, dropping dead, bottle in hand, middle finger raised, and a smile on my face."

I re-read 015 and 016 &amp today and thought it was great.

>>23173892
What were yr faves?

>>23173296
>mid 40s
>shovels peat for a living
>lives in rodent-infested shack...risking hantavirus
>didn't thoroughly cook the meat before throwing in the veggies...risking salmonella
>blames the audience for his failure to engage
you're angling to die in the near future. will your life insurance cover your deadbeat-dad obligations? oh, who am i kidding

Footsteps, slower than usual. Two hesitant knocks on the door. Sky flipped her phone over. "Yeah?"

She was already bracing herself, but the way her mother moved made her sit straight up.

"I got a... they called from, uh..." Lily sighed, looked around, tried to figure out what to do with her hands as she sat down on the bed next to her daughter. "Honey, it's your dad."

They hugged and wept a bit, very quietly. Bastard, was all Lily thought. You fucking moron bastard. "Tell you what," she said as she wiped Sky's tears away with the sleeve of her sweater. "Tomorrow, we'll go to the Custerdome. Get something to eat. Do something fun. What do you think?"

"Okay."

"Or we could just stay home."

Sky nodded. "I think I want to be alone now."

"Sure, sweetie, sure. I'll leave some lasagna in the fridge."

After her mother left, Sky contemplated her main reaction: that of awesome relief. Relief that came in sustained, impossible-to-fight surges. Guilt led her to dig out the last thing her father had gifted her: a clumsily bound book, sticky with glue. Twin pangs of embarrassment and affection when she saw the inept cover, the juvenile name he had picked for it. On the title page: a generic motivational phrase, inscribed in tortured, unnatural cursive. She was still very young, but she knew that what she had in her lap was different somehow.

She put it on the nightstand, and then she put it back in the drawer.

That night, Sky dreamt that she was walking on a cold beach at night. Wind and waves kept lashing her, and she ducked into a small cave opening.

She tottered in the cold wet dark, crouching down in a streak of moonlight. A tiny pale crab was passing by in the opposite direction. She covered her toes.

"Hey, little buddy," she said, moving closer.

"Gotta keep moving," the crab replied in its squeaky crab voice. She watched as it jittered on, determined, out of the cave.

>>23173751
What's next for MNM-DR?
>>23173892
Great issues, covers also reminiscent of 001.

>>23174449
another large format and extremely visual novel with many pages...in the 600-700 range.
takes place between Feb 2018 - 2019/2020
our protagonist seems to be doing ok, then things go pants on head insane

>>23174367
>didn't thoroughly cook the meat before throwing in the veggies...risking salmonella
Do you think he didn't boil this meal thoroughly and reduce the sauce so it was thick and yummy?

>/lit/ doesn't cook!

>>23174728
That's the good stuff. I can't emphasize enough how inspirational that kind of story is to my writing, having been mentally ill myself. Looking forward to reading it.

>>23174927
>having been mentally ill myself.

>>23173032
>>23173270
>>23173394
>they let her out

>>23174927
kewl
stay healthy, fren.

>>23175108
I'm not sure what she contributes to this board.

>>23173632
>>23173637
This is unironically better than anything Jason Bryan has ever written.

>>23175355
It's clearly put to shame by the things Jason himself freestyled in this thread. Jason is the superior writer and his 4th book is due in 27 days.

New thread when?

>>23175699

new and improved:
>>23176066

>>23176074
>>23175699
Where is everyone?

>>23176460
They want to get away from you.

>>23174840
I've been cooking like a madman for decades. With curry, one should cook the meat much longer than the veggies. The meat should be pretty much done before throwing in the veggies (unless it's the onion/garlic, which can be cooked with the meat, since it'll reduce & become part of the sauce and flavor). And then there's the matter of proper spicy heat...

wow, look at this pile of crap: https://files.catbox.moe/d9sukc.zip