/lit/ - Literature

Anyone have a recommended reading list for American founding fathers and presidents?

>>23120188
>American Founding Fathers Biographies

>George Washington
James Thomas Flexner

>John Adams
John Ferling

>Thomas Jefferson
Dumas Malone

>James Madison
Jay Cost

>Benjamin Franklin
Carl Van Doren

>James Monroe
Tim McGrath

>Patrick Henry
Jon Kukla

>Thomas Paine
Craig Nelson

>Alexander Hamilton
Willard Sterne Randall

>Samuel Adams
Ira Stoll

>John Hancock
Harlow Giles Unger

>Robert Morris
Charles Rappleye

>John Jay
Walter Stahr

>Francis Marion
Hugh Rankin

>John Paul Jones
Samuel Eliot Morison

>Paul Revere
David Hackett Fischer

>Joseph Warren
Christian Di Spigna

>>23120494
>70% of the founding fathers are literal whos not worth writing about
grim

>>23107111
thanks for the recc, just got through the first chapter
interesting stuff
>the hittites had a specific law against biting people in the nose and imposed a fine of 40 silver shekels on anyone who did so
this is simultaneously one of the weirdest and funniest things I've ever heard about
I wonder how often it happened that they had to make a law specifically about it

Life on the Mississippi and The Innocents Abroad

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/245

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3176

>>23121523
>muh war elephants
has there ever been a general more overrated than Hannibal?

Russian revolution is peak kino. Especially the white armies

Okay cool book but how do I get a Roosevelt-like personality?

Mommsen is great.

>>23120668
The coolest are Washington and Franklin, anyway.

>>23122724
>>23123092
>>23121523
Let's limit this to America

>>23124437
I hate that faggot for not daring to touch the eras that the Anglo goblin Gibbon touched out of fear of not being good enough. He could've set the record straight but no, he had to be a faggot.

>>23124448
No, fuck off.

People are reading Hitler's War by David John Cawdell Irving

A Majority of Scoundrels

I don’t know anything about the USA despite growing up here. Are there any books that could tell me what we learned in school? I remember them teaching it, I don’t remember any of it

>>23124867
Is there a particular era you have in mind?

>>23124867

>>23126051
It's pozzed.

I read Adrian Goldsworthy's book on Augustus while listening to the Oblivion OST for the full experience of nostalgia for a lost age. If anyone knows any historians of the Middle Ages similarly talented at making the period seem interesting and exciting I would be obliged.

Thanks to the anons that reccomended this one the previous thread, I finished it in a few days

And since we are here, someone has reccomendations on books on the russo japanese war?

>>23126336
>Thanks to the anons that reccomended this one the previous thread, I finished it in a few days
You are welcome anon.
>And since we are here, someone has reccomendations on books on the russo japanese war?
Pic related is on libgen

>>23126336
Assyria wasn't the world's first empire fucking lol what a trout

>>23125938
Nope. I literally know nothing except the fact that it was founded on July 4, 1776. It’s pretty pathetic.

>>23120494
This Hamilton biography is superior.

>>23120135

>>23120668
Tell me more the historical leaders of your irrelevant third world shithole, if you shall.

>>23123112
Start hunting, smoking Cuban cigars and get shot once while making a speech. You’re welcome

>>23124453
Malding

Thoughts on Durant's series on human civilization? I've flipped through the first volume briefly and it seems like a good read, but I want /lit/'s thoughts before I fully commit myself to it.

You do have a copy of The Power Broker conspicuously placed in your Zoom backdrop, right /lit/?

>>23127209
What about Jimmy Carter's novel?

>>23124867
Sad, but at least you've got an exciting road ahead of you. U.S. History is great.

>>23128075
Like what?

>>23128088
It's far from exhaustive, but take a look at this.
>>[Colonial History]
Bradford, William; Of Plymouth Plantation, 1620-1647
Hackett Fischer, David; Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America
>>[American Frontier]
Jackson Turner, Frederick; The Frontier in American History
Clavin, Tom; Blood and Treasure: Daniel Boone and the Fight for America's First Frontier
Faragher, John; Daniel Boone: The Life and Legend of an American Pioneer
Ambrose, Stephen; Undaunted Courage: The Pioneering First Mission to Explore America's Wild Frontier
>>[American Revolution]
Hackett Fischer, David; Washington's Crossing & McCullough, David; 1776 (Read these two as a pair)
Lee, Henry; Memoirs of the War in the Southern Department
Graydon, Alexander; Memoirs of a Life Chiefly Passed in Pennsylvania
Trumbull, John; The Autobiography Of Colonel John Trumbull
French, Allen; The Siege of Boston
>>[Westward Expansion]
Wesley Powell, John; The Exploration of the Colorado River and Its Canyons
Lewis, Meriwether; The Journals of Lewis and Clark
>>[War of 1812]
Berton, Pierre; The Invasion of Canada
>>[Texas Revolution]
Crisp, James; Sleuthing the Alamo: Davy Crockett's Last Stand and Other Mysteries of the Texas Revolution
>>[Mexican War]
Eisenhower, John; So Far From God
>>[Civil War]
McPherson, James; Battle Cry of Freedom - James M. McPherson
Catton, Bruce; Terrible Swift Sword: The Centennial History of the Civil War Series
Rhodes, James Ford; History of the Civil War, 1861-1865
>>[Spanish-American War]
Roosevelt, Theodore; The Rough Riders
>>[Pacific War]
Dower, John; War Without Mercy: Race and Power in the Pacific War
>>[World War II]
Patton Jr., George; The Patton Papers
>>[Biographies]
Morison, Samuel Eliot; Admiral of the Ocean Sea: A Life of Christopher Columbus
Freeman, Douglas; Washington
McCullough, David; John Adams
Kidd, Thomas S.; Benjamin Franklin: The Religious Life of a Founding Father
Freeman, Douglas; Lee
Chernow, Ron; Alexander Hamilton
Meacham, Jon; Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power
Kidd, Thomas S.; Thomas Jefferson: A Biography of Spirit and Flesh
Meacham, Jon; American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House
McPherson, James; Abraham Lincoln
Donald, David Herbert; Lincoln
Catton, Bruce; Grant Takes Command
Catton, Bruce; Grant Moves South
>>[Misc.]
Henry Dana, Richard; Two Years Before the Mast
Means, Howard; Johnny Appleseed: The Man, the Myth, the American Story
Edmonds, Michael; Out of the Northwoods: The Many Lives of Paul Bunyan, With More Than 100 Logging Camp Tales
Kraybill, Donald; The Riddle of Amish Culture
Mather, Cotton; On Witchcraft
Sugden, John; Tecumseh: A Life
Tocqueville, Alexis; Democracy in America
Wilkes, Charles; Narrative of the United States Exploring Expedition
Randolph, Vance; Ozark Magic and Folklore
Furniss, Norman; The Mormon Conflict 1850-1859
Arrington, Leonard; Brigham Young: American Moses
Arrington, Leonard; Great Basin Kingdom: An Economic History of the Latter-day Saints, 1830-1900

>>23124448
Beautiful! Where is that?

>>23127489
The volumes are beautiful, at the very least. Next time I'm in my uni library I'll keep an eye out

Chronicle of the First Crusade 1096-1099, the reign of Baldwin I 1100-1118 and Baldwin II 1118-1131 of the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

>>23127489
>Thoughts on Durant's series on human civilization?
It's brilliant. Just don't think that reading through it will make you knowledgeable on any one of the periods it covers. It's the best overview there is, but it really is just an overview.

Are there any books or monographs about the shift from humans identifying with their city-state as their nation to most people across the old world then coming to see a large, multi city region as their nation?

Is there a term for this that I could look up to do my own googing?

>>23128463
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_historiography

>>23128463
>Imagined Communities - Benedict Anderson
Anderson was a leftist, but he does the topic justice, so it fits the bill of what you're looking for. Some other books I can think of are
>Fire in the Minds of Men - James Billington
More of a history of revolutionary ideas, but it's also an intellectual history related to the development of nationalism.
>The Pursuit of Power: Europe 1815-1914 - Richard Evans
Historical overview of the era that created modern nation-states.

What is the best book on the early history of the church?

>>23128892

>>23128102
Thank you, Nigga!

>>23127489
It's a terrible narrative history which is all I can tell from what I've read of it. If you are interested in any period just find something else for it

>>23126069
Rly?0vjm

Books recs related to Prohibition era gangsters?

>>23127489
Heavily outdated both factually and ideologically

Are these fucking books ever getting an English translation or do I have to learn German?

>>23120135
Dude. Weed.

>>23129290
If they were worth reading somebody would have translated them. Excessive length usually equals prolixity/slop

>>23129290
>Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums ist das zehnbändige Hauptwerk des Schriftstellers und Kirchenkritikers Karlheinz Deschner. Es beschreibt detailliert Verfehlungen, die den verschiedenen christlichen Kirchen, Konfessionen, Sekten, Sonderbünden und ihren Repräsentanten sowie christlichen Herrschern im Verlauf der Geschichte des Christentums angelastet werden. Das Werk umfasst die Kirchengeschichte von ihren biblischen Ursprüngen bis ins 18. Jahrhundert. Der erste Band ist 1986 erschienen, der abschließende zehnte im Jahr 2013.
>Partielle oder vollständige Übersetzungen des umfangreichen, über 5000-seitigen Werks erschienen in englischer, italienischer, spanischer, griechischer, polnischer und russischer Sprache.
sounds like you're just not looking hard enough

>>23129451
The English translation is 300 page self-published single volume.

>>23129477
Then create the English translation yourself.