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governmental spies from every major global power and technology fortune 500 companies

>>23108405
There is no Big Brother in real life because no one has the influence necessary for people to play along in their power fantasy. Even Putin today has to kill his rivals in Prison; that shows that despite his influence over Russia, he still feels threatened enough to exercise his will and kill his opponents. It's kind of insecure behavior if you think about it.

>>23108539
One of the things I love about Brazil which Gilliam wrote as a parody of 1984 is that there is no Fuhrer or any leader in the movie whose pictures are on the walls everywhere akin to Big Brother. Rather the evil is simply a mega-corporation and capitalist system which got too big and was left unchecked.

>>23108566
>simply a mega-corporation and capitalist system which got too big and was left unchecked.
robloxoof.mp3

>>23108576
That is what the movie Brazil is about. Yes. I am not talking about Orwell’s 1984 but rather a leftist movie which parodies it from the opposite end of the political spectrum.

>>23108405
You mean Big Sister?

>>23108587
the oof is how close we are to the movie, though bloated government etc also is an issue etc

>>23108539
And he's terrified about what Navalny can still do to him, even though he's dead.

>>23108566
Next time, try actually watching Brazil instead of live-blogging your reactions on Facebook.

>>23108587
You're a fucking dimwit. Brazil is about an authoritarian government, not "muh capitalist system."

>>23108734
>>23108739
I watched the commentary and it is based on an amalgamation of real life dictatorships but mainly it is Thatcherite Britain. The cafe bombings for instance are supposed to be like the IRA terror attacks in the UK. The main government in the movie is absolutely capitalist. Pic related. I can’t find it right now but when they are at the Christmas time at the mall there is even a huge banner which says “capitalists for Christ” while a mall Santa asks a kid what he wants and he says “my own credit card!” and there’s a part where the guard says to not jeopardize his credit rating.

>>23108756
>The main government in the movie is absolutely capitalist
Then why is there only a single state-run corporation, called "Central Services?"
>a mall Santa asks a kid what he wants and he says “my own credit card!” and there’s a part where the guard says to not jeopardize his credit rating
Credit cards are a way of centralising transactions and bringing them under state control. A true capitalist prefers cash.

Thatcher was an English liberal ffs. All authoritarian governments are collectivist in nature. Post a counter-example if you can, I'll wait.

>>23108852
Okay, I see you’re one of the “if the government is doing something it is a socialism” guys so I have no interest in arguing against you. The gov in the movie is objectively capitalist and I gave you an example, literally “capitalists for Christ” signs in one key scene.

>>23108405
remember how the guy who invented 3d printed guns went to jail for talking to an underage girl who said she was 18? remember how the head of the afro cuban proud boys leader was sentenced to 22 years? and he wasn't even in washington dc on january 6th? remember how a clip of milo came out and he disappeared after that? remember how Madison Cawthorn was on the up and a video surfaced of him humping his cousins shoulder while naked? remember how trump is getting bombarded in liberal courts? this is no accident.

>>23108918
>Madison Cawthorn
i liked how IMMMEDIATELY after this goofy ahh said there were 'eyes wide shut' orgies in washington he got doxxed with a gay video that outted him.

>>23108405
people seem to accept they're being spied on, but they don't seem to grasp the true scale of mass surveillance
picrel has up to 12 exabytes of storage; 12 exabytes is enough to store every word ever said by any human going back 300,000 years
it's being used to store anything and everything, even encrypted data because they might be able to decrypt it one day
in theory it's impossible to use the internet anonymously when the adversary has a complete view of the entire network, while from a technical perspective privacy is easy
this video covers surveillance by satellites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7AT3XHguxU, 1 pixel corresponds to less than 10cm on the ground
satellites are also able to see inside buildings: https://futurism.com/new-satellite-buildings-day-night

big brother is the five eyes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
i would dump more information about modern surveillance, but this is /lit/ not /g/ - add me on matrix (my name) if you want to discuss

>>23108405
Big Brother is an ever present force in all political systems. In liberal democracies, big brother is seen in curtailing information flow in order to aggressively legitimize favored narratives.

>>23108859
>The gov in the movie is objectively capitalist
Governments literally cannot be capitalist. Capitalism implies the private ownership of capital. In the movie, the state (Central Services) apparently owns all capital.

Governments (like Thatcher's) can be "pro-capitalist," in which case they cannot be authoritarian, because they entrust the means of production to private hands.

A government can also be "corporatist" (which was Mussolini's preferred term for fascism) but this is a collectivist philosophy, like fascism in general.

>capitalists for Christ
Assuming this is real, it means nothing. Just a throwaway swipe at the "supply-side Jesus" brigade. Brazil is a comprehensive trashing of all authoritarian institutions, including religion.

Finally,
>I see you’re one of the “if the government is doing something it is a socialism” guys
Nope. I live in a country where some companies operate as co-operatives, within a liberal economic environment, and prosper well enough.

tl;dr - looks like you need to read moar

/// There's a reason the pang of loneliness hurts so much /// Incomprehensibly twisting lanes of swarming tenements stood cheek by jowl beside the villas of the rich /// Financial institutions are still reeling from the blow /// I was nervous, but seeing her allayed my fears /// Their family business is a rinky-dink operation /// I don't understand this form - it's all couched in legal terminology /// These countries are on the brink of cataclysmic famine /// The government has turned a minor local problem into a full-blown regional conflagration /// There's a famous statue by Rodin, which shows the soul of a young woman striving to break free of the flesh of an old crone /// He gathered up the twigs and cast them into the fire /// Educational reform was one of the main planks of their election campaign /// He looked unusually chipper this morning /// All the rest is not evidence, it is just scurrilous gossip and rumour /// Trying to read between the lines of CEO departure statements is a longstanding parlor game for investors, journalists and academics who study succession /// Our fashion editor gives you the lowdown on winter coats for this season /// Sarah was squalling in her crib /// The stilted conversation turned to whether horse-drawn carriages were superior to riding on camel, horse or elephant /// He started issuing peremptory instructions /// Cut it out, you two – I'm tired of listening to you argue! /// The lift is driven by hydraulics /// Bubbeleh, you've got to stop stressing about what other people think /// Whether they had been successful or not was a moot point /// She tried to hit me up for a loan till payday, but I didn’t have any money to give her /// The president's trip had all the trappings of a state visit /// It's free, unfettered window access and someone's already pulled up the blinds /// The four men were killed after a summary trial /// The bus drew up in the village square and disgorged its passengers /// Each guest had to pony up $40 for the meal /// Opening with a musical and lyrical prelude, this symphonic composition was to end with a postlude /// The Iranians have worked painstakingly in the past decade to build up a redoubtable deterrence capability on Israel’s borders with Lebanon, Syria, and Gaza /// Dr. Mann didn't deign to interrupt his eating, but Jake shot me a second piercing squint /// They wanted me to change the title to something less gratuitously offensive /// The current standard of care for food allergies is avoiding triggers and carrying an auto-injector epinephrine pen to be prepared for life-threatening anaphylaxis ///

>>23108405
Jews, Government and Trannies.

>>23108405
Any media company in the world unironically is a propaganda brainwashing center, doesnt matter if its private or state owned all journalists shoud hang. But thats my opinion on who is closets ''Big brother'' think about it they fear monger and manipulate information like big brother.

>>23108964
>Brazil is a comprehensive trashing of all authoritarian institutions, including religion.
So it’s just like any Hollyjew product?

>>23108405
Lucien

>>23108405
the left
orwell wrote that book to be about commies. and commies exist in the real world as it turns out

>>23108405
big brother runs a gay pedo devil cult
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsource:9/RFNS-1.21-001-010:7

>>23108964
Retard.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

>>23110825
where do i know that face from?

>>23110835
>leftist cope: the wikipedia article
Leftism is about being retarded and changing definitions so you can pretend to not be retarded. This literally implies that the fucking USSR was capitalist. Cope after cope after the failure of your ideology.

>>23108405
jews

>>23111080
Facts.

right-wing outrage media. keeping the plebs frothing at the mouth with self-righteous indignation for the past 4 decades.

>>23111109
we're gonna dump you in a fucking mass grave

>In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen. The little sandy-haired woman had turned bright pink, and her mouth was opening and shutting like that of a landed fish. The dark-haired girl behind Winston had begun crying out 'Swine! Swine! Swine!' and suddenly she picked up a heavy Newspeak dictionary and flung it at the screen....

>>23111219
literally describing every ORANGE MAN BAD leftist's behavior

>>23111219
>The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic.

>It was even possible, at moments, to switch one's hatred this way or that by a voluntary act. Suddenly, by the sort of violent effort with which one wrenches one's head away from the pillow in a nightmare, Winston succeeded in transferring his hatred from the face on the screen to the dark-haired girl behind him. Vivid, beautiful hallucinations flashed through his mind. He would flog her to death with a rubber truncheon. He would tie her naked to a stake and shoot her full of arrows like Saint Sebastian. He would ravish her and cut her throat at the moment of climax.

>>23111228
>>23111243
again, you are describing your own behavior lol

>>23108405
Mentally ill hysteric women and bugmen that went to college and became teachers, journalists, lawyers, activists, HR faggots and content safety specialists in social media plataforms.
So basically the Big Brother is an amalgamation of every upper middle class midwit in the West.

>>23111246
tl: dr

>>23111264
yeah you're a fucking retard lmao

>>23111267
lmao

>>23110818
iirc wasn't Orwell on the commies side in the Spanish civil war?

>>23111353
Yes, and it made him realize how retarded communists really are.

>>23111353
he was a social democrat who was concerned about the rising tides of authoritarianism, left and right.

>Who is Big Brother in present world?
whomever is keenest on dismantling liberal-democratic institutions

>>23111354
Not really. It just made him hate Stalinism and fascism even more, but Marxism, or at least left leaning socialism, he was in strong support of:

"Orwell's experiences, culminating in his and his wife Eileen O'Shaughnessy's narrow escape from the communist purges in Barcelona in June 1937,[13] greatly increased his sympathy for the POUM (Workers' Party of Marxist Unification) and, while not affecting his moral and political commitment to socialism, made him a lifelong anti-Stalinist."

>>23111418
you're actually retarded

>>23111440
no u

>>23111354
>>23111426
He was a socialist but he was a democrat above all, he didn't believe that socialism was still socialism if the workers can't vote to control the goverment and that voting does not work with censorship, propaganda and terror.

>>23111080
it was communist under lenin, tsarist under stalin, and capitalist after that.

>>23111763
People really should use the term Marxist rather than socialist and communist, those 2 are goals not means, theoric models that don't even exist yet because we don't have the technological and social knowledge to make them work.

>>23111787
"marxist" has become devoid of meaning. if you tell your average chantard that Orwell was a marxist they'd think he was a troon.

>>23112040
Orwell would be considered far right if he lived today

>>23112476
Well he basically became the real life Emmanuel Goldstein, he ended up outshining Trotsky himself as the ultimate "traitor" and "fake socialist" in the mind of western socialists and any socialist who oppose Stalinism is seen as his fanboy.

>>23111219
>>In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen. The little sandy-haired woman had turned bright pink, and her mouth was opening and shutting like that of a landed fish. The dark-haired girl behind Winston had begun crying out 'Swine! Swine! Swine!' and suddenly she picked up a heavy Newspeak dictionary and flung it at the screen....

>>23108405
Pretty boring. The people that participate a skilless autists who can't even communicate properly. The host broke down crying one time because of how useless and boring they are.

>>23108405
The Jew.

>>23108405
>>23112964
Here's the updated version.

>>23111754
Any socialism other than economic socialism is just mob rule

>>23108405
He has made a list. And when the time is right, nothing will save you from seeing the inside of a prison cell, child. You WILL enjoy prison, stalker.

>>23108405
It's satan
it always was

>>23108405
Fishes under the leadership of coelacanths and lungfishes.

>>23112595
>>23111219
Retard. The point is that it's an exploitation of the tribal nature of human behaviour.
The actual political stance doesn't matter. The authorities would be fine with it if people got really pissed off at potatoes for two minutes. It's supposed to get people to empty it out so that they don't have any left for the gov.

>>23108405
Why it's your fellow citizen of course. The ones who dox you when they find out you said naughty things on the internet.

>>23110835
That's literally socialism LMAO.

>>23111763
>and capitalist after that
How to assimilate this level of retardation?