/lit/ - Literature

I picked up some fantasy series in my local used book store for cheap, but don’t know which one to start.

>Memory, Thorn, and Sorrow by Tad Williams
>Riyria series by Michael J Sullivan
>Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynne

What do people think of these series?

>>23023408
>>Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynne

TWI bros, break's gonna be over very soon
Hopes, fears and expectations for Volume 10?

>>23023408
>>Riyria series by Michael J Sullivan
I have read one book, it's a pretty likeable bromance with a pretty simple plot/setting.

>Memory, Thorn, and Sorrow by Tad Williams
A slowburn quest, something like Arya, Bran or Jon's adventures in ASOIAF (which was partially inspiread by Williams). A pretty good language, a pretty good setting.

>>23023408
The slowest fantasy series ever but pretty good
Funny buddy adventure, his attempt at writing a different series sucks
I found this boring, classic case of multiple povs but only 1-2 that are interesting.

>>23023540
>Only a handful of us remain… and for how long, I wonder? I know I have forgotten people in the list above, and maybe that is the destiny that awaits all of us… to be forgotten.
Based GRRM.

The Great Change (and Other Lies), First Law World - Joe Abercrombie (2023)

The first three of these stories were previously included in the Waterstones special editions of the Age of Madness trilogy books. The Great Change is published here for the first time. Abercrombie warns that these stories shouldn't be read until after you've read the book it goes with and for the last, until after you've finished the trilogy. What I've written can be read without having read anything else.

The Thread
The devaluation of labor and the ascendancy of capital in an unregulated free market is demonstrated through the production of clothing starting from the harvesting of cotton to the presentation of a garment to a wealthy businesswoman. Quality plummets as profits soar.
Enjoyable

The Stone
The path of a single huge blood diamond is followed from its discovery to its incorporation into regalia. Along the way all manners of criminal activity ensue. A great amount of individual profit is gained through undermining the guild system, organized labor, and solidarity. However, it's never enough.
Enjoyable

The Point
Hundreds of prisoners, political and otherwise, slaves, and other forced labor toil away in the iron mines. Their lives hold no value other than the value they produce for the owner. A man ponders whether the downsides of profit at the expense of all else is worth its rewards. The foundries are indifferent to its usage, cutlery or swords, it matters not as long as they're paid. An arms dealer sells to all sides, as to do otherwise would enrich someone else.
Enjoyable

The Great Change
The origins of The Great Change are revealed. Scenes from the trilogy are presented from a different perspective. New scenes fill out what wasn't previously put on page.
Enjoyable

Any modern (1990-2024) fantasy with cults?

>Assassin's apprentice
>Ranger's apprentice
>Spook's apprentice
how many other apprentice series there are

>>23023478
I hope the mc dies and gets reincarnated into someone less whiney
>>23023540
he's gonna dies from a heart attack before he finishes, just like sanderson.

>>23023334
what,in your opinion, characterize the decline of western fantasy and sci fi?
>female authors
>shit prose
>political tourists
>a ..........of..........and..........

>>23023478
what is TWI?

>>23023610
Apprentice Adept, Magician's Apprentice, Magician: Apprentice
Warrior's Apprentice (this one is cheating since it's just a book title in the Vorkosigan Saga)
If you want to really cheat and leave genre fiction in its entirety there's an Iris Murdoch book called the good apprentice.
>>23023796
you do not read enough to have an informed opinion on whether fantasy is declining or not, this whining is just an excuse to never read beyond or your boundaries or even much at all.
Also you're blatantly just trying to start /pol/ shit without even having a specific book to disguise the fact
>>23023606
Dagger & Coin, a cult's the main force behind the story and you get multiple PoV's within it
>>23023807
The Wandering Inn presumably

>>23023796
Shitty authors. Nowadays each brainlet can be an author. They don't understand universal historical, political, social and economic processes and they don't have imagination, but try to write things based on their environment and ideas, which they saw on TV.

Read Beyond Apollo

>>23023812
>Dagger & Coin, a cult's the main force behind the story and you get multiple PoV's within it
Is it good? Any horror/weird elements? Or just a cult as a political power?

>>23024037
nta
Yes. It's epic fantasy. GRRM is the closest style.
Not really.
Closer to that than what you want probably .

just finished scanner darkly, i feel like i'm too retarded to understand it

Where is my litrpg recommendations

>>23023334
I'm wondering if I should put a transgender character in my Sci fi story?

why is it that afrofuturism reminds me of the agarthan hyperborean stuff you’d see on /x/, but for blacks instead of whites?

>>23024279
im wondering if you should kys

>>23023540
All of those were good authors, David Drake's death still hurts.
Fuck slob Martin anyway
>>23023796
Female fantasy authors have been around since 1930, everything else is kind of right but i don't know what you mean with "political tourists"

I'm having this idea for a story. It takes place aboard a space cruiser...the pilot...is a teenage weed-smoking hippie...he has to fight an empire whose head is a magic warrior of an ancient religion that he finds he may also be part of

>>23024279
Only if they're a villain.

>>23024362
>DUDE WEEEEEEEDDDDDD
Fuck off to the writing general, You will never finish your story anyway.

>>23023540
why are all lefties so pathetic and retarded?

>>23023540
>here’s reason number 457 why twow is still at least another year away
It’s so tiresome, it really fucking irked me when there was a leak from a reputable source that” a famous a list writer has told close friends he doesn’t intend to finish a highly anticipated book series”

I got back into asoiaf recently because some got threads popped up on /tv/ and I listened to some theory that the reason Wymar Royce got killed in the prologue the way he was is because the Others are looking for Jon and Wymar fit the description of a Stark, and so how do they know about Jon and what do they want with him, and well white walkers usually want to turn babies into white walkers and it got me thinking that maybe the whole “Prince that was promised” means the prince that is promised to the white walkers to become the great other/marry her (in case it’s a woman like the nights queen).

Maybe it’s an already established theory I dunno I thought it sounded pretty interesting. I’ve also got a thing going about how magic always seems to involve blood and fire (literally the Targaryen words and they use this to create dragons) but Weirwoods use blood aswell (and I think Ned purposefully or unaware to old tradition) feeds the weirwood of winterfell with blood when he cleans ice after executions and maybe winterfell gets some sort of protection thanks to that?

And maybe the magic in the wall that’s capable of keeping White walkers out is from the “sacrificial” oaths all watch members take when they pledge themselves to the watch

Obviously the others use a different type of magic from the rest of the known world, maybe not blood related at all, though if the children really did create them and with obsidian then I guess they too fall under blood and fire magic.. although it’s odd that blood and fire creates dragons that then creates obsidian that then creates ice demons

It’s too bad twow will likely never be finished it would be really cool to see where it all goes, I don’t think the show followed George’s intended ending at all, minus perhaps that Dany goes mad but I don’t think she’ll go mad literally, it’s going to be poetic about how she is never going to be able to actually go home. And that Jon goes beyond the wall (but I think it’ll be for the reasons stated above not just to be a hobo with the wildlings)

I came across the term “river of light” in a song the other week and for some reason it just resonated with me and now I want to write a book about it with 0 fucking talent for writing… like it’s this star road or something used for interstellar travel

Good Lit-RPG

>The Tutorial Is Too Hard
>As Good as Dead
>The Reincarnation of Alysara
>Dawn of The Void
>Eight
>The Mana Influx
>Red Mage
>Book of The Dead
>Hell Difficulty Tutorial
>Age of Stone
>Overgeared
>The Nailmaker
>Cinnamon Bun
>The Warlord

Good Fantasy and sci-fi

>There Are Superheroes In This Story
>Ringworld
>Neuromancer
>Melody of Mana
>Warlock of The Magus World
>A Neets Guide To Becoming A God
>The Reality Dysfunction
>Healer of Monsters
>What We Do To Survive
>A Practical Guide To Sorcery
>Blame
>Sokaiseva
>I Am Not Chaotic Evil
>12 Miles Below
>Berserk
>Violent Solutions
>Tenebroum

>>23024163
probably just need more drugs

>>23024310
>afrofuturism
Pulls from Nation of Islam, which is just the same schizo cult shit with a black coat of paint.

Just finished the priest's tale. Jeeeez.Can't wait to see what the other stories are like. How are the sequels? Are they the same format?

>>23025491
No, which is why a lot of people say just to read the first one and maybe the second one.

>>23023985
>Tits
Ok I will

>GRRM only lists 14 of the 77 courses at Joffrey's wedding
What a hack, I thought he was meant to love food

>>23024563
Someone wrote up the same theory, this is what happens when the fat man takes over a dozen years to write a book
https://joemagician.wordpress.com/2018/10/23/the-killing-of-a-ranger-the-death-of-waymar-royce-2/

>Will you give me what I want in return [for the brightsteel], Dragon Rider?
>I will, Eragon said without hesitation. Whatever the price, he would gladly pay it for a Rider's sword.
>The canopy of the Menoa tree grew still, and for several minutes, all was quiet in the clearing. Then the ground began to shake and the roots in front of Eragon began to twist and grind, shedding flakes of bark as they pulled aside to reveal a bare patch of dirt, out of which emerged what appeared to be a lump of corroded iron roughly two feet long and and a foot and a half wide. As the ore came to rest on the surface of the rich black soil, Eragon felt a slight twinge in his lower belly. He winced and rubbed at the spot, but the momentary flare of discomfort had already vanished. Then the root around his ankle loosened and retreated into the ground, as did those that had been holding Saphira in place.
Did he get impregnated by a tree?

This was actually a fun read

>>23026268
I've read the first one as poopy war

Any writers/series with worldbuilding, similar to those of George Martin and Tad Williams? Something down-to-earth, but profound.

>>23024310
Because they have no creative faculty. All creativity in humans traces its origin to the thought of white men. Over generations, the character of these seminal ideas takes on the appearance of the lesser races who supplanted, or succeeded in absence, their originators.

I just had a dream where GraphicAudio made Lord of the Mysteries adaptation, but they gender swapped the MC.
lol.

>>23026296
Daniel Abraham
Guy Gavriel Kay

Started Wheel of Time one year ago, I'm finally almost free bros.
Overall I've enjoyed it but god damn could it easily have been a half or even a third of the length. Jordan really needed a better editor.

>>23023796
Popular fantasy, especially popular western fantasy, has become rootless and stagnant. Because they are penned by stunted adult-childs that have only ever consumed fantasy and have absorbed only superficialities of the works of the great fantasists. They care nothing for history and mythology, nor the craft of writing itself

>>23026382
What a coincidence

>>23026543
The biggest give away that you guys don't actually read much is that you think good fantasy has ever been about mythology

>>23023540
Maybe people would be more inclined to listen to him IF HE WROTE THE FUCKING BOOK

>>23026636
Name your top 10
t. not that guy you're quoting

>>23026636
The Iliad, The Odyssey, Aeneid, Dante's Divine Comedy, Ovid's Metamorphoses, Paradise Lost, Beowulf, Faerie Queene, Nibelungenlied, Song of Roland, Orlando Furioso, Le Morte d'Arthur, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Lancelot le Chevalier de la charrette, Parzival, etc.
>inb4 that's not fantasy

>>23026591
>Lady Amon was literally just Amon marrying and having kids with himself
Man, the ASG’s fall really did a number on Amon’s psyche.

>>23023408
Memory, Sorrow and Thorn, hands down.

>>23024488
When did that leak happen? That's such a fuck-you attitude to the fans that made him rich and famous

>>23023334
What happened to heroic fantasy? Feels like the fantasy the last 2-3 years was mainly some strange epic-female fantasy.

>>23026521
That's most people's take on the series, desu. It became the equivalent of a TV show where the network just keeps out pumping season after season due to its success. Overall, it was pretty enjoyable but books 8, 9 and 10 could've easily been one book.

>>23026636
What is it about, then? Genuinely curious

>>23026636
Classic fantasy isn't about mythology, it is itself mythologic. Strip this element and replace it with drama and superpowers to get flavourless capeshit/shounen for the masses

>weak character doing heroic things
Books for this feel besides LOTR? Frodo is my favorite character by far in any fantasy book due to his courage

>>23027249
Made in Abyss

>>23027197
Women have entirely taken over fantasy, and fiction in general. That's what happens when the vast majority of those who working in publishing are women and prioritize women over men. The executives and owners are mostly still men, but women make them more profit than men do so they go along with it. It's only going to increase as men seek better opportunities. Though, men are also ever on the decline in terms of fiction reading do this trend will continue to where women are more and more prominent.

>>23027249
Memory, Sorrow and Thorn trilogy by Tad Williams

>>23026296
>worldbuilding

Just bought The Broken Sword. What am I in for?

>>23027249

Frodo is endearing as fuck and you appreciate him more on a re-read and especially reading the trilogy as an adult. You got to admirer the little bugger's fortitude for how he was able to cope with the ring trying to mentally torture him along the way to Mount Doom. I think his character is an acquired taste because he's surrounded by much more interestin characters like Aragorn, or Gandalf. Definitely seems boring and bland when you're reading it as a child or teenager.

>>23027556
>Just bought The Broken Sword. What am I in for?
Depends on what version. There's a 'pagan' version which is the original and there's a 'christian' version which is the revised one.

>>23027664

I got this edition. I didn't realize there were two versions

>>23027693
https://www.blackgate.com/broken-in-two-poul-andersons-two-versions-of-the-broken-sword/
Here's an article discussing the two versions. Try to avoid spoilers if there are any. Both versions are good either way though.

>>23027197
reject modernity

>>23028336
>pic unrelated

>>23026296
Sean Russell

>>23023334
Scrolling through z library book lists is surreal.
there's a shit tone of sci and fantasy books and series ,many of them old or obscure enough that i never saw there mentioned or discussed here or on mainstream platforms.
i've made a hobby of downloading and organizing them. Perhaps i will start sharing them as torrents to make sure they remain around if z lib is taken down for good

>>23028578
Those are the best, i love reading old books that have less than 100 ratings on goodreads

I bought Nova by Delany today would I be completely fine starting with that or should I get something like Babel-17 to acquinte myself with his works before delving into Dhalgren. I really want to read it this year mainly for hearing constantly how complex the novel is and it having been compared to Finnegan's Wake stylistically.

>>23028744
Triton is his best work.

>>23023540
finish the books you fat hog

>>23027463
What's wrong with that? I'm beginning to understand that I love worldbulding, atmosphere and descriptive prose even more, than plot and characters. But I don't like (physics-like) magic and anime-likeness much.

>>23028453
Thanks.

>>23024563
interesting idea, have you considered fat pink masts jutting into myrish swamps while the planks of the ship groan like a fat man taking a shit and nuncle wipes grease from bacon burned black and mulled wine from his chin before it can dribble onto the nipples of his breastplate and in the privy the princess shits brown water but the more arbor gold she spills onto her lemoncakes the more she shits until she's shitting brown water and nuncle smiles because dark wings bring dark words and a lannister always pays his debts and winter is coming but words are wind my sweet summer child but where do whores go?

>>23025829
the tree was going to castrate him but since nothing was there it broke his hymen instead.

>Fantasy author remembers that archers exist
>Some writers go the route of arrows being only mildly annoying
>Others decide that arrows pierce armor like it's made out of tissue paper

Any stories where they don't go to one extreme or the other?

>>23028744
If you have read literary fiction like Joyce you can dive in and read Dhalgren but if you only read epic fantasy, space opera and browse r/fantasy then i suggest reading The Ballad of Beta-2, babel-17 and Nova beforehand

Why is he so insufferable? Why does he want eliminativism to be true?

I just finished dune messiah. Should i stop here or go deeper?

>>23029194
read until god-emperor and then decide if you want to go all the way

I just finished it

The dialogue is mostly awful and character development non-existent. HOWEVER other than that it was great. I loved the nostalgia for infinity and though I saw some twists coming, the story surprised me right up until the end. Thank you Mr Reynolds very cool

I'm going to read Chasm City next

>>23029212
Chasm City is its own thing. I'd recommend reading the next book in the series instead.

>>23029233
I know but it's a stand alone story in the same setting, right? I want to know the world a bit better before continuing with the main story

>>23029255
Yes, it's standalone. If you wanted to know the world better before the main short then maybe you should've read the short fiction that preceded the first novel.

>>23029284
But Revelation Space is considered a classic, I wanted to try it out first. Now I've read it. Reynolds would surely approve of me taking my time to get to know the world rather than recklessly ploughing ahead with the trilogy alone

>>23025728
I mean he's a fat fuck, it's just that the only thing he loves more than food is not writing

I think the books will end with Aegon and Sansa trying to fulfill the Ice and Fire prophecy that Rhaegar wanted to complete when you think about it both Aegon and Sansa have a lot in common especially both being pawns of Little Finger and Varys they are both also in hiding living under different identities and their respecitve house colours are reflected in their hair albiet inversely; Sansa's hair is auburn/red the colours of House Targaryen, while Aegon/Young Griff's hair is white the colours that appear on the crest of House Stark behind the Direwolf. There's no doubt a whole lot more details and rabbit holes I could enter for this but I'd rather not make a long arsed paragraph about it but I think another reason they could get together is because GRRM might bookend things because a Stark and Targaryen essentially caused this whole entire mess the kingdom of Westeros is going through he's no doubt going to jump ahead to when current cast of characters are adults trying to potentially stop The Long Night from happening I think in this scenario you're going to have a Mormont back on the Wall maybe as Lord Commander again, a Stark ruling Winterfell once more after the Battle of Ice is over, and potentially Tyrion murdering Daenerys after she comes to the conclusion to do something dangerous that could potentially harm millions of people mirroring what Jaime did with Aerys, showcasing how everything is somewhat cyclic with a history repeating itself motiff but maybe a threeway team of people consistin of Bran, Sansa, and Aegon maybe being the three heads of the dragon will become the ones to usher in a dream of spring bringing some sort of peace and stability to Westeros.

>>23028972
Is he still alive?

>>23029634
fat slob martin will never finish the books anyway

>>23027369
Is that meant to be Binabik? He's much bigger than I imagined. I always pictured the trolls as being below waist-height.
>>23027556
>I think his character is an acquired taste
>boring and bland
For sure, I think Sam being more temperamental and parochial overshadows Frodo a bit and leads to all the downplaying of Frodo as a character and more importantly a hero. The "Sam was the real hero" types don't appreciate the struggle Frodo went through as the Ring-bearer

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

Why are you guys obsessed with progression fantasy? I finished Cradle and it was the most boring shit I've ever read. It was like shounen anime without the fanservice whats the point?

>>23029634
>I think the books will end
The books are never going to be finished anon. GRRM just doomposts on his blog now about how everything is meaningless because the world is going to end. He's too depressed to write and he's going to have a heart attack any day now. They will probably get Brandon Sanderson to finish it using AI or some shit.

>>23030454
>>23030461
>/litrpg/
I'll never understand why you fucks don't make your own general. There's clearly an audience there.

>>23030470
numbers go up

I love the dying earth sub genre but I think I have read it all. Does anyone know any obscure ones I might have missed?

>>23030710
Dark is the Sun?

>>23030470
I'm ready to see Carl burn it all down to the ground.

>>23030710
>>23030722
Forgot to post what I have read. I must be missing 1 or 2 things out there.

>>23030739
>Dungeon Cuck Carl
Not even once.

>>23030814
Nobody will mourn your passing, bakkerfag.

>>23030710
Type this into Google
site:https://sf-encyclopedia.com "dying earth"

Strategic advantages of having a giant fucking magically reinforced rock over your capital city?

>>23030970
I suppose it's intimidating

>>23030970
You can force the people of the city to love you and worship you on threat of it losing its magic (that you cast over it) and obliterating the city if the people ever stop loving you.

>>23030857
Bakker > Matt Hide The Dounts Dinniman
[Spoiler] Simple as. [/spoiler]

>>23030454
Just read through 13 chapters of MoL and it was ok. A bit dry at first but its getting better, still generic but fun

>>23030970
It didn't do much good for Vivec in the end

>"Hard was the word men used when they spoke of Stannis, and hard he was."
>"Yes, I should have come sooner. If not for my Hand, I might not have come at all."
>"I am your man, Your Grace. So it is your tongue, to do with as you please."
>"From the south," said Robb. "But if we can attack from the north and west simultaneously, and take the ironmen in the rear while they are beating off what they think is my main thrust up the causeway, then we have a chance."
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
>And suddenly his cock was out, jutting upward from his breeches like a fat pink mast.
>She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world.
>Rain lashed at his face, blinding him. His mouth was full of blood again. The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.
>Ser Alliser Thorne walked from the room so stiffly it looked as though he had a dagger up his butt.
>The three men were erect. The sight of their arousal was arousing.
>"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."
>"Ten thousand of your children perished in my palm, Your Grace. Whilst you snored, I would lick your sons of my face and fingers one by one, al those pale sticky princes. You claimed your rights, my lord, but in the darkness I would eat your heirs."
>Tyrion reflected on the men who had been Hand before him, who had proved no match for his sister’s wiles. How could they be? Men like that... too honest to live, too noble to shit, Cersei devours such fools every morning when she breaks her fast.
>Her loins ached from the urgency of his love making. It was a good ache.
>It was pink and hard and when he sucked on it, her milk filled his mouth, mingling with the taste of rum, and he had never tasted anything so fine and sweet and good.
>The rain stopped and started again and stopped once more and started, but they had good cloaks to keep the water off.
>“Had there ever been a woman with nipples so large, so brown, or so responsive?"

>>23031649

Redpill me on Earthsea Cycle series anons. I dont usually read books by woman writers, but there are some rare exceptions like j.v. johnes

What fantasy author do you think has been heavily plagiarised more than Tolkien? I think Michael Moorcock is definitely a top contender there's been way too many knock offs and 'heavily inspired' media of his concepts and Elric too

>hasn't learned to spoiler in 4 years of being on 4... chan
Every thread, Bakkerfag becomes even more of a laughable lolcow. I wish I could meet him so I could simply break down into a full-on belly laugh at his visage and behavior.

Rec me kino that has pic related vibes.

Do you think Kellhus is actually fond of the people he surrounds himself with? Aside from Esmenet and Serwe, do you think he considers Cnauir and Akka in a way an emotionally stunted Dunyain could?

He's clearly intrigued by Cnauir, and his core frustration with Akka is that he doesn't get to master him. He doesn't even execute him at the end of the first trilogy to close a loose thread, just tells him "get the fuck out."

>>23032303
He's a sociopath

>>23032307
Yeah, so why did he let them live when they only presented threats to himself?

>>23031608
>mfw it retains its original velocity
N'wah...

>>23023408
Faithful and the Fallen for sure. Book 1 is the weakest, but it really picks up as it goes on and the rest of the series is a ride. There's also a sequelt trilogy but you don't need to worry about that right now.

Riyria is solid, but unremarkable. It's worth a look eventually. Ironically I think Riyria Revelations is still probably the author's best work and yet all he seems to write is shit in the same setting at one point or another.

Memory, Thorn, and Sorrow I have only limited experience with, but I did about 2/3 (of a lengthy novel) of the first novel on audio and literally fuck all happens in all of that time besides the MC leaving. It was a bore, but I always hear the series gets good. It just was a terrible first impression.

>>23032309
Because they could be useful later on.
One thing is fighting not!muslims and another one are satanic jew rape demons from outer space.

>>23032303
>Do you think Kellhus is actually fond of the people he surrounds himself with?
Yes, it’s quite clear that his feelings of attachment, yes, even love, for his family and friends, which was quite incomprehensible to his giga-autistmo Dûnyain brain, was part of what led Kell to madness.

I'm really digging this book: it's nice having a fantasy with low stakes, which is not about saving the kingdom/world from an ancient evil or a formidable foe.
My only complaint is that you could replace dragons with lions and the plot wouldn't be affected that much.
Anyone who happens to know a similar book? Fantasy with low stakes, even better if it's about a scholar studying magical creatures or phenomena?

>>23032528
Oh I read that book. It was interesting to see dragons treated as just another exotic species that hasn't been properly studied.
Unfortunately I can't think of any other like that right now.

>>23026521
Never understood the wife-editor relationship, why is it so common? What's the deal with it? How does it happen?

>>23031950
Ed Greenwood, not even joking.
D&D is obviously derivative but so much fantasy that's come since draws directly from it.

>>23032667
nta
Ed Greenwood created the Forgotten Realms campaign setting. That's not the same as D&D. It's but one of many campaign settings. FR wasn't even the default campaign setting until 5th edition. I don't think the novels Greenwood has written have been that influential. It's certainly not been plagiarized. If we're taking about D&D, then it'd be more those who wrote the Player's Handbooks for each edition. Aside from R.A. Salvatore the FR novels have had mostly abysmal sales and influence.

>>23031950
Your premise is inherently faulty due to incorrect word choice. Meanings matter. Derivative doesn't mean plagiarism. Neither does influence mean plagiarism.

what a sack of garbage
>duur we were issued a challenge
>lets go defeat a whole city on our own
>wtf sandworms?! not a single player has encountered these before in previous books :)
>ermm my daughter can hack all the player accounts and delete da videos :)
I'll just finally go force myself to read dostojevsky or moby dick

>>23033269
read reverend insanity

>>23033269
You should have dropped that when the author focused more on real life than the game. Especially when he started with all those "side quests" and giving a bunch of different POVs.

I dropped it around book 3 (main book not side quest). The focus started going to more real life problems and it took away from the story. It's why I stay away from any online or VR books, they are all shit.
Read books that have the magic baked into the world. Sword Art Online really created a lot of creative dissonance when it comes to fantasy and litrpg. Ugh. Everyone and their granny tries to immitate it.

>>23029793
Hopefully not

>>23033299
didn't even read the side-quests
ember was okay but Thorn was the first time i dropped it after being burned out by MC doing his "custom skeleton super scary monster" shtick everytime

>>23032196
Saga of Frost by Robin Wayne Bailey
Firekeeper by Jane Lindskold
Skinwalkers by Wendy N. Wagner
It's a comicbook but Marada The She-Wolf fits.
If i remember another one i'll post it

>>23031883
I suppose you wouldn't like it, two are from a woman's perspective and it's definitely not heroic fantasy in a masculine power fantasy sense.

>>23031883
They are very introspective, i love that type of fantasy but i know it isn't for everyone. Also trigger warning for chuds almost every character has olive/tan skin

>>23032309
Because Bakker is not a good writer

>>23023334
lit with mech? and im not talking about power rangers/ gundam mech, but more like BattleTech?

if that makes sense

>>23033802
northworld series has bodysuit mecha

>>23033802
battletech has books
dunno what they're like but stackpole wrote sum and he's a decent hack

>>23023408
>>>Memory, Thorn, and Sorrow by Tad Williams
gay
>>Riyria series by Michael J Sullivan
gay
>>Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynne
based

>>23023408
>>Memory, Thorn, and Sorrow by Tad Williams
decent but rather slow going also the mc gets cucked but whatever
>>Riyria series by Michael J Sullivan
ok i suppose, kind of scuffed and convoluted
>>Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynne
hot garbage, world building is a little interesting but the plot, characters and prose are comically bad

>>23034033
Hey i didn't know Daniel Greene posted here, please do ANOTHER video where you suck sanderlad's mormon cock

>>23034064
>Spoiler
...hot

>>23034205
well at the very end of the series he ends up fathering a son on her so i guess it works out?

>>23031950
Robert e Howard. Just started reading Conan, and that stoic archetype is so common now. Miura even mentioned Conan as the inspiration for guts.

>>23031883
The first book is a classic and I recommend it. The second goes in a very different direction and I struggled to finish it. I heard the third goes back to being heroic but I haven't gotten around to it yet

>>23034286
he cute

>>23034286
>Dudeeee BERSERK Lmao
Fuck off

>>23034360
gottem /b/ro

>>23034360
> Interviewer: Did it all start out with the image of Guts, the main character?
Miura: It was Guts' gimmick, or rather his "style." He's a dark hero... or a dark nihilistic type, like Hakaider from Android Kikaider (by Shotaro Ishinomori). Then I threw in the fantasy genre – works I liked such as Conan (by Robert E. Howard) and Guin Saga (by Kaoru Kurimoto) – and began with the concept of the Black Swordsman. Then I went from one idea to the next: If he's dark and nihilistic, what kind of character should I make him; and since ordinary swordsmen aren't interesting, how should I individualize him? Then from Dororo (by Osamu Tezuka) and Cobra (by Buichi Terasawa), which I like, I got the idea to attach something to one of his arms. As for the Dragon Slayer, large swords were featured in stories like Guin Saga and Pygmalio (by Shinji Wada), but those were just drawn as big swords. This didn't deal with what it would actually be like if somebody swung one, and if people witnessed it. And as I mentioned a bit go, this was the heyday of Hollywood films, so live-action was the entertainment king. They didn't have CG like they do today, so in both The Terminator and RoboCop, people were trying as hard as they could to act like machines. They had that sense of using physical acting to portray a superhuman, so I started out with the live-action ideas of if there really was a person with a big sword, how much muscle would he need, and if he swung it, what would that action be like?

>>23034286
why are all the men in the original conan stories ripped? even the wizards and thieves are more muscular than 90% of natty gymgoers today, for example: Thoth-Amon was decently buff in The Phoenix on The Sword, Xaltotun was actually muscular, The Prince of Thieves is built like a powerlifter, etc.

>>23034373
>dude berserkkkk he's so BASED because he's the BLACK swordman and has a GIANT sword and goes BERSERK when he gets angryyyywhen his best friend betrays them???' never seen that in a novel dudee berserk is PEAK fantasy broo, no i never read a fantasy book but my favorite youtuber said so so it must be tru dudeeeee

>>23034421
everyone was ripped in action pulps, just like how everyone is tall and ripped in cape comics (at least for a few decades)

>>23034425
ROFLLLLLLLLLLLL where's the upvote button???

I need your help finding a (short-)story that was quite wild, sadly I don't remember the author.
>It's about romans invading britan
>I think Marcus Aurelius is leading them
>He leads his men into some god forsaken part
>they end up havin no food
>they are close to starving and find a cave
>they hope to find a bear or something inside
>they end up waking up some eldritch monster/god
>the monster fights witht them and the other eldritch gods come to earth because of that
>Cthulhu comes out of the water
>Marcus prays to his gods
>Zeus starts to throw lightning at Cthulhu
>The romains manage to kill the monster
>the other gods go back home
>the story ends with the lingering feeling of dread because the men are still starving and now having the dead eldritch thing laying around

>>23030710

Read: https://alexbeyman.substack.com/p/vantablack

...or listen: https://audio.com/alexbeyman/audio/vantablack

Then, if you liked that: https://alexbeyman.substack.com/p/terminal-sunset

>"Tweet-tweet! Tweet-tweet!"
Jesus Christ, that's unironically terrifying.

>>23034425
Noooooe the main character must be of color and transgender and use their mind to solve their book long prisoner arc at the hands of hite cis male scum!!!!1

>>23034496
Vantablack is a trademarked term.

>>23034711
>shemale

>>23034711

If somebody sues me I'll put an accent mark in it somewhere

>>23032338
He literally thought to himself (concerning Cnauir), "I shouldve killed him" more than once. although this was before he achieved katana mind

>>23034711
the french language and its consequences have been a disaster for the woman race

>>23034711
All of that crap on the right sounds like fashion shit.

>>23023334
Are there any good books that cover the lore of certain mythological / folklore creatures? Particularly related to European folklore. Essentially like a Pokedex of faeries and goblins and trolls and things that covers their characteristics and lore in a semi-serious way, but not like a schizo way that implies that they were anything more than metaphor and symbolism.

>>23035331
Which European culture?

>>23030857
>Said the foot fetishist.

>>23033802
Brigador novelisation by Brad Buckmaster

>>23032528
No one? I can't be the only autistic pal that likes this sort of things.

>>23032528
the sorcerer's house comes to mind. it's really good

>>23035627
Thanks, what is that about? What did you like about it?

>>23035643
i recall enjoying it very much, and it's not really about important stuff or anything grand, that's why i recommended it. i wrote this:

very enjoyable, a real pageturner, very funny at times. great feel-good story.

and more but don't want to spoil anything, i think the less you konw about a good book before going into it the better. it's about a guy moving into a new house and he figures out things

>Sudden romantic drama between the main character and his love interest
What's the appeal of this?

>>23035726
Woman like drama

>>23035413
North Western stuff mostly I guess. Celtic and Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian mainly, but maybe also Baltic and Slavic, or even Greek stuff like the minotour. Mostly trolls and goblins and elves and things like that. Something that explains what their motivations are, like which creatures are obsessed with riddles or gems or crafting things or aggressive or timid and weak etc. I want to learn more about folklore monsters and creatures to help write some stories.

>>23035331
I used Mystery Animals of Britain and Ireland and Encyclopedia of Fairies when I wrote about folklore in school
For non-european I think An Introduction to Yokai Culture might be this but I haven't actually read beyond the intro yet

>>23035726
If romance is present in the book it should be a dynamic thing

>>23034464
>Romans
>Zeus

>>23024647
Haven't read There Are Superheroes in This Story but I would bet dollars to donuts it's not as good as Soon I Will Be Invincible

I read The Last Castle by Vance
bretty gud

Poul Anderson is way more deserving of the title American Tolkien than the likes of Robert Jordan, GRRM, or Ian Brandon Sanderson.

>>23027693
I believe that's the "updated" one. To get the original version you gotta get the first edition or the recent one with the funky white and purple cover.
I'm not sure how extensive the differences are, I think he changed how the changeling is born is the big thing?

>>23026296
R Scott Bakkers Second Apocalypse
Robin Hobbs Assassins Apprentice

Only world's I've found so far that have felt as real to me as Westeros and Middle Earth.

>>23031649
Based
>>23034743
With Cnaur it's not just lingering attachment but also the direct influence of Ajokli whose working across time to get the two of them to their fated Endgame (even tho it's incomprehensible to Ajokli).
His influence touches both of their brains and subtly guides their choices.

>>23036204
The Dragon Masters is superior and, imo, Vances best work

>>23036315
>Robin Hobbs Assassins Apprentice
What if I begin with the second trilogy (about ships) and read only it?

>>23036332
That works, you'll miss a few fun references and the final sequel bait chapter of the last book might fall a lil flat for you but it'll be just as good otherwise. It's a great trilogy.
If you ever want to continue the series though you definitely need to start at the beginning before continuing.

>>23036201
Haven't read Soon I Will Be Invincible but i would bet rupees to roti's that it's not as good as Chacha Chaudhary

I want to go back to the golden age of science fiction and fantasy where it was allowed to be a little ridiuclous but also very fun without it being too campy. Now everything feels like it needs to be uncessarily bleak, and edgy for the sole purpose .

>>23036329
Weird choice. It's good, of course, but I don't see why it would be his best.

>>23033802
Second for brigador novel. Actually pretty good

>>23035331
>>23035925
>Walter Scott's letters on demonology and witchcraft
>Readers Digest Folklore, Myths And Legends Of Britain
No such book exactly fitting your description exists but the above two are good sources on folkloric creatures

>>23023606
China Mieville’s Kraken I guess. Personally I found too many of the characters to be unlikable but squid cults are always neat.

Any fantasy stories with this kinda feel? Somewhere the main character gets put through everything and comes out the other end only to look back and realize what still remains?

>humanoid race with a big-ass tail diverting at a 90° from the spine
>normal straight-up posture
Fuck that, give me tailed sentient species that walk like raptors or flightless birds or pangolins.

Well, that was lame af and more childish than Harry Potter or own movie. Should go back to Chinese stuff

>>23037749
come home western man

>>23037765
>pic not related

Why is it that all protags in Chinese webnovels either gradually or quickly become inhuman bugmen who would witness their niece being raped and eaten alive by demons and say, “Huh, my karma and this family’s has already been exhausted”.

>>23037855
the chinese are inhuman bugmen. Have you never watched any liveleak of someone getting squashed by machinery and no one around even reacts?
If you want soul read Lewis/Wolfe

>>23037855
Because
> my carma and this family
Idea of reincarnation and carma in religion, so if you born sick, poor or you life suck in general - you deserve it. Never heard of any charity by Chinese.
Clans are more like corporations and treated as such. Child in family is investment and should study and work hard to provide for elder parents later at cost of childhood and free time. Lack of platonic feelings.
Clear social darwinism in education.

Chinese culture seems more inhuman, but lookin at west now, filled with brown scum, nuclear families destroyed, and youth turned in pathetic piece of lards - I question myself should we have tolerance and humanism still.

>>23037855
Webnovels are all trash, in sundry ways for sundry reasons but all trash. Accept it and read a real book

>>23035331
>Essentially like a Pokedex of faeries and goblins and trolls

>>23037855
this example is horrible but anyways

the higher the cultivation the worst it is to be touched by karma, so they avoid talking with people they dont have relationships of forming new ones with people they shouldnt

Martial World lin ming avoided meeting his other sister and brothers, even avoided talking with his cousing that was his best friend when they were kids, he went to visit them but they never knew he was there.

Still sad to think that 10000 years later almost everyone that he met in the begg is already dead

>>23038207
>Webnovels are all trash, in sundry ways for sundry reasons but all trash
u are just mad that a normal person like you started writing and then never stopped, got fammous and rich without the need of publishers.

Go back to /wg/ where you can cry how your book is so professional but no one reads because your not black or a woman.

>>23034711
>katana
>bushido
>yakuza
top chuckle

>>23038238
No I am mad that you retards keep recommending them to people, they are a waste of time made for ADHD zoomers to scroll through on their iToys. Not a single one has any worth at all. I don't mean this in a haughty sense of "literary worth" I mean they have no entertainment value for anyone who reads above a 3rd grade level. Its not about fame or wealth, you can find better writing on fanfiction.net. Reading machine translated chinese slop has rotted your brain.

>>23037749
you read a young adult novel, what were you expecting?

>>23038269
i accept ur defeat

>>23038313
>No argument
Kekd and rekd

Has anyone here read the Heartstone Saga by Archibald Bradford? It's erotica, but I've been looking for a similar fantasy novel or series like it.
I don't really like how it turned into lesbian orgies near the end, but yeah does anyone have any recommendations for something like that? I like monster girls in general.

>>23038323
>argument
didnt even read ur post retard
i accept ur surrender

>>23030461
Primal hunter and He who fights monsters are both utter garbage. How the fuck someone can read more than two books is beyond me. I couldn't stomach the latest book. At this point I only listen to the audiobook as background noise because I hate silence.
If I had anything else to listen to I'd go with that. Zogarth is such a self-important faggot, his writing hasn't improved, and I'd say it has actually gotten worse since the first book entry.
LitRPG is a dog genre in the first place, but for fuck's sake nothing new ever happens, and fighting some orange alien invader but not really fighting and pretending something big is coming later is just bad.
I just hope if you like this shit you know that even the lowest form of writing can get popular. Look at Fifty Shades of Grey or Twilight.

I guess I might come off as someone who hates popular things but really I'm just so baffled.

I kind of wish my tastes were catered to... shit sucks man.

>>23038356
The rec post is just a forced meme, it's spammed because someone decided to 'own' a poster by spamming their shitty recs forever

anyone else having trouble finding interesting new stuff? i spend more time searching than reading so what i started doing instead is reread my favorites

>>23038394
I think it's kind of fucking crazy how much smut women get to read in the modern age. It's all so fucking bad and cliched to hell, but they eat it up like my dog chows down bacon.

Meanwhile what the fuck do men get?
Harem? Fucking kill me.

>>23038417
>>23038394
I have such a massive backlog how can you not?

>>23031649
>>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
Never fails to make me laugh

>>23038394
>anyone else having trouble finding interesting new stuff?

Nah, im not a elitist or a pseudo-intellectual, so i dontt have trouble having fun with something simple.

>>23038269
Wildbow is pretty good at them.

Im in the mood for some post apoctalyptic stuff like battle circle by piers anthony. anyone have a rec?

>>23038745
i was tricked into reading this shit. almost as retarded as mainstream capeshit. its full of stupidity and people sell it as ratfic. honestly the idea of ratfics sounds great. but none of them are actually good

>>23038394
I know it must be difficult reading beyond the top 3 or so acclaimed authors but there exists far better reading material elsewhere.

Any sci fi recommendations with lots of/explicit sex?

>>23038761
Automaton by T.R. Hudson

>>23038850
John Falcon Infiltrator: The Hollow Earth

>Protagonist we've been following for the entire story who has been making sure to be as moral as he can suddenly does something completely uncharacteristic and needlessly kills his original self's soul and steals his body
This really came out of left field. I feel like there were more options Zorian could have chosen.

>>23030970
looking dumb as fuck

>>23038932
>x writing as y
why even bother with a different name then

I bought a kindle, and compiled this -- so for anyone like me, I'll drop this here
>Fantasy - /folder/9603TZZA#RKSl1RhWe1oX6Cd1LyOViQ
>Science Fiction - /folder/lusBWaxB#52ywIWv8IToSBi8ONj4DlA
>M3G4-d0t-nz

>>23038269
'Stop liking what i don't like' - The Post
>Picture somewhat related

>>23038269
I don't read litprg myself but what sff literature (according to you) has entertainment value?

this > the books
The adaptation truly covers one of the main weaknesses of Brando, his shitty pros.
Now it is just pure cinematic hype.

>>23038213
Just to remind you, you're in the Science Fiction and Fantasy General on the literacy board of 4chan.org.

>>23039059
Thank you, just got a kindle myself

>>23039355
>shitty pros

>>23039355
>white kaladin
what did GraphicAudio meant by this?

just finished wot
what did I think of it?

>>23038932
its him all the same
theres nothing bad about this lmao

hes a perfect copy of himself, theres no diff btw them except the experience they had

>>23030710

>>23039499
e

>>23037540
Vita Nostra by Sergei and Marina Dyachenko

Reply to this post with the name of a sci-fi book made in the last decade.

Impossible mode: it has to be a good book

>>23039680
Murderbot Diaries
Achievement unlocked: Impossible Master!

>>23039689
I literally just read the first one and it fucking sucked

>>23039680
Well alright, let's see

>Ancillary Justice - released 11 years ago
fuck

>The City and the City - released 14 years ago
fuck

I give up

sufficiently advanced magic is so fucking terrible. fuck anyone that enjoyed it

Books with this vibes?
I am asking this unironically.
I need more.

King sucks. I'm gonna finish this cause my friend recommended it to me, but the guy is such a hack. Tedious, anemic, facile, and constantly cringe. This is 600 pages, so I would estimate there's about 75 pages of interesting writing.

>>23039680
Dichronauts

What does the industry think of Bakker? E.g. there's a review by Hobb on pretty much every major fantasy book on Goodreads, but the only "industry" review I could find was picrel

>>23039928
the only good part is when the protagonist first approaches the city and roams around it
half of the book is just shitty sol

Started reading and it's pretty fucking good, trying my best to read 1 chapter per day. After this i am going to read the first of LOTR

emphyrio or planet of adventure, which is more fun?

Been rifling through all the shit fictions that is RoyalRoad, came across this one called the Blessed Child and I would highly recommend it if you like fantasy with slow as fuck plot progression and attention to detail.
Around 1 year has passed in 112 chapters AND there was a 4 month timeskip

Finished Destination Void thought it was pretty cool kinda leaned into some body horror sections a little in some areas but asked some interesting questions when it came to cloning and AI. Are the sequels worth checking out?

Why haven't you read The Kingkiller Chronicle yet?

>>23039804
>sufficiently advanced magic
It would have honestly been ok if the main character wasnt a tsundere gay.

>>23040353
the protagonist is also introspective and makes decisions in an autistic way that constantly ruins immersion because im thinking about the authors mental illness
he's also pretty incompetent as a hero, and yet somehow the story revolves around him. it doesn't add up
AND they ramble about boring shit that most books would edit out
(and then the gay curveball)
is it the worst book? not really
am i triggered about the disproportionate amount of praise? yes

>>23040432
>am i triggered about the disproportionate amount of praise? yes
many of the most popular litrpg/selfpub titles is a huge circlejerk. then again you can say that about anything popular enough
the author of sufficiently advanced faggotry, one of (maybe both) the authors of iron prince anime ripoff, and i believe that insipid queer baldree, are all part of the mod pantheon of /r/progfant, even, so public opinion on one of the largest forums to discuss the topic is certainly swayed

>>23039857
You're gonna get the pasta if you keep that up, sonny boy.

>>23039585
Stop shilling your shitty retelling of the night land, stoddard

>>23025491
Downhill from there, just wait till you hear about the nipple hairs. Also hoping you like Keats on a *teenager discovers his first poet* kinda way. Because Simmons does.

>>23038394
no, I have shit taste and can read and enjoy just about anything.

>>23039928
>constantly cringe
did he include poetry? his poetry is awful

>>23039355
I mean, if you don't mind abridged books Graphic Audio is definitely the one to go with.

>>23040107
Outside of the dark fantasy space not much. Steve Erikson seems to be the biggest author who has really praised the series, saying:
>"Take note, one and all, something remarkable has begun"
>"Exquisitely intelligent and beautifully written... this is fantasy with muscle and brains."

>>23023334

Any sffg books with that stalker feel? Already read roadside picnic

One of these days I will give metro 2033 a chance

>>23040609
See: >>23038881

>>23030710
Nightland Racer. Warning though; when I purchased it it had formatting issues throughout. Not bad enough to ruin the book, but enough to be annoying.

Is foundation a good read?

>>23040692
I would not really recommend it for a casual read. If you are interested in the history and development of scifi then it's decent.

The story is OK but it's really not that great.

>>23039355
I really really really hate graphic audio. Shitty sound loops playing on repeat, crappy mood music trying to tell you how you should feel, low effort narrators that exhibit little to no range.

>>23040327
I actually like some Marvel movies, but Black Panther is not even a good Marvel movie.

any good scifi romance lately?

>>23040692
Asmiov is mind-numbing.

>>23040327
Why are americans so obsessed with Black Panther? I want to say white guilt but almost every country in the world had slavery and none of them are as close to being obsessed with black people as americans.

>>23040576
mc has a reddit-tier catchphrase awesomesauce

>>23040976
>awesomesauce
cool beans!

>>23040927
Same reason Americans are obsessed with pro-wrestling and are so loud. Most white americans have at least small amount of black DNA, they may not look black or mixed to some mexican but to a European person it will be immediatly obvious.

Inb4 but Europe is blacked.
Yes it is but not to the same extent, race mixing also exists but most mixed people are mostly first or second generation and are clearly distinct from whites (except maybe in France and Spain).

>>23040327
Its funny because protagonist is in love with a roastie of the worst type while having a big booba redhead in front of him

>>23040327
what the fuck

>>23041113
Is rothfuss still into cuckolding themes?

S&Schads will recognize who the redhead is meant to be.

>>23041113
cuckolding is based but fat slob Rothfuss is cringe

>>23039631
>they wrote on the movie about Vavilov
holy fucking shit thanks anon. I love the story of Vavilov and Lysenko, learned them when studying biology. this is awesome.

>>23034066
Who the fuck is Daniel Greene?

>>23031649
>"Men call me Darkstar, and I am of the night."
holy shit did GRRM write Symphony of the Night?!

>>23040327
I couldn't finish the first book. I don't understand why it was so successful. Generic obnoxious self insert crap.

>>23041517
the magic system was pretty interesting

>>23038417
>Meanwhile what the fuck do men get?
>Harem? Fucking kill me.
I wouldn't mind harem but the shitty alpha male power fantasy is a major turn off, big time.

>>23040609
unironically, Lord of the Mysteries

I'm convinced that the red rising series is going to be a massive normie hit once people find out about it:
1. easy to follow
2. pseudo court politics in a pretty interesting but simple stellar society
3. space battles, light saber duels, character variety, environment variety
4. rebelling against the oppressive government for "the good of the people"

However, I think they might find it difficult to consume because of the following too:
1. flirts quite a bit with "wait... is fascism... GOOD? democracy has... FLAWS?!?!?"
2. main character is a white male adonis figure who lords over everyone around him as an ubermensch war hero
3. lots of "maybe people belong where they are in society..."
4. too much humanizing of the nazi villains, too much vilifying of the democratic good guys

>>23041491
Booktuber who gives every book published after 2010 five stars and doesn't read books published before 2000 because he's scared of them being "problematic". Basically he's goodreads YA section in human form

>>23041589
Red rising is already normalfag tier, the fuck you talking about chuddie? Check every "top 15 super cool new space operas!!" In every normie bookwebsite and red rising will be top 5, you get posts about it daily on Reddit fantasy and is very famous on goodreads.

>>23041589
It's literally YA you retarded zoomer, it's normie bait by default

>>23041589
Go back

>>23041568
We need more protagonists like Klein.

>>23041618
>>23041626
>>23041658
i meant more in the vein of game of thrones level popularity (ie a tv show), not "one or two redditors know about it"

How does ASOIAF manage to pump out the absolute most embarrassingly braindead fanboys?

>>23041814
its not nearly popular enough to become a tv show or movie

Read The Deep

>>23041857
neither was ASOIAF until it was

I got around to reading The Lost Metal there over the weekend. It was shorter than Rhythm of War but it suffered in a similar way (large timeskip from the previous book, significant changes to how the world works, heavy focus on Cosmere elements). It was a disappointing way to end the Wax and Wayne books.

I haven't read anything else of his that's come out recently. Is it the same for his other books?

>>23026521
I always like to see people post that they have enjoyed WoT.
Do you have tiers for your character rankings yet?

>>23041589
It's already one of the most popular SF books and series of all time.

>>23041814
"one of the top few popular genre books of all time" is unrealistic.

>>23041857
Popularity doesn't matter that much overall. Tons of obscure genre fiction have been made into tv series and movies.

>>23041814
Fuck off

>>23041814
>YA reader is a retarded faggot
Many such cases!

>>23039680
semiosis
the city in the middle of the night
memory called empire
venomous lumpsucker
most expanse books

anyone reading exordia? it's really pushing my buttons.

>>23042226
I possibly would've read and wrote about it already but I'm focusing on finishing series for an unknown duration of time. I read the first few pages some time ago and it seemed fine, though what I've seen others say makes me wary. I probably won't know for a long time yet unless some compelling reason has me read it sooner.

On a scale of one to ten, how much of a fucking idiot would I be to post a handful of redemption codes for my book in /sffg/? Will likely post about it when I put it up for free later this month or next (as a promotion for the release of the next installment), but as someone who's taken the self-pub route, it's almost impossible to get any eyes on something if you're not in the right circles, and I don't really use any other social media. Appreciate the insight of any anons who have done or seen something similar.

>>23042369
10 if you expect anything to come from it. 0 if you expect nothing or even less than that.

>>23042369
if its on kindle for like $3 ill buy it

>>23023540
>sigh
Is there a more reddit interjection?

>>23042369
What do you have to loose? At worst some troon/mormon mod will ban you for a while for some bs reason and you have to reset your router. Are the codes free for you to issue? I mean, the odds of us just randomly buying your book are vanishingly small if we don't know what it is anyway. Of all the places on 4chan /lit/ has got to have about the least stigma attached to it. Not like you're posting it in /b/ or /pol/ or /mlp/.

>>23023540
People that think even the worst projected climate change possible could even kill 5% of the global populate are fucking retarded. We will not go extinct directly due to climate change under any scenario. The only possible way climate change leads to our extinction would be from a war it provoked somehow, and that would be humans choosing to go to war.

>>23042518
Sometimes there isn't choice. If India becomes inhabitable, some places are already borderline, that's going to be a lot of forced migration. The same goes for a lot of Africa. We haven't even begun to see what mass migrations are going to look like. The illegal immigrant crisis has even yet to have begun relatively to how bad it may become over the coming decades.

>>23042369
Depends anon, is it shit? I'd definitely check it out/leave a goodreads review or something if it's actually decent. Just make sure you keep in mind that this is a contrarian faggot board and you'll probably get some feedback representative of that

>>23042572
>inhabitable
What a slip. Uninhabitable that is, even more so than it is already.

>>23042572
Drones could solve most of the problem.

>>23042417
Appreciate it, genuinely.

>>23042445
>>23042509
>>23042573
Fuck it, hope you enjoy. I don't have many codes, but if you don't manage to nab one, I can get a few more. Preemptive apologies for female protag. Also, the "Look Inside" formatting is somewhat scuffed due to drop caps (no idea how to fix it, will probably just update the manuscript without them) but they show up fine in the .azw.

Can't post codes in their entirety, but to make them easier to redeem:
GSKGK8TRVKMF2E3
GSGG292WU8A2SFM
GSELB5HHQNBEEKS

>>23042369
How pozzed is it?

Anyone have a copy of Last Rock from Phil tucker they can share?

>>23042640
>she
>she
>her
Stopped reading there. Kek consider promoting your book on some progressive feminist subredits

>>23042676
It's available on mobilism.

>>23042685
holy based

>>23042699
Do you have a link? am looking on the site but i cant seem to find it. Thanks in advance.

>>23042735
You have to create an account to access the downloads. If you don't want to do that then wait until it's uploaded elsewhere. I'm not going to download it then upload it for you.

Why do faggots on mobilism pick the absolute worst sites to host uploads anyway?

>>23042755
So they won't get deleted quickly I'm assuming.

>>23042755
It doesn't really matter what the site is if you bypass with a the proper sort of download manager, such as jdownloader 2.
https://board.jdownloader.org/showthread.php?t=54725

The honey of WHAT?

>>23042640
>>23042685
No one cared to mention the title?
Arcana's Rebirth by Adam Osypczuk

Best Sellers Rank: #2,323,356
Yeah that's pretty much nothing.
No customer reviews

Probably should have published on royal road first to get some readership and feedback on if it's any good or not.

IDK man, hard to get traction some times. I could imagine an alternate universe where Harry Potter went unknown.

>>23042509
>mormom mod
are mods on /lit/ lds or something? or did you typo moron lol

>read in a chair = uncomfortable
>read in a bed = fall asleep
>listen to an audiobook in a bed = fall asleep
>read in a toilet = maximum focus
>listen to an audiobook while driving = maximum focus
What's wrong with me, bros?

>>23042572
India could go extinct and the only thing the world would notice is less plastic in the ocean and fewer scam phone calls. Uninhabitable is a myth. The only uninhabitable place on earth is Antarctica and even that is arguable as without governments actively restricting colonization I bet there would be quite a few more people eking out a survival there. Humans can live in just about any climate earth has to offer.

Furthermore, the hotter earth gets the move global convection does it's thing. For every 10° rise in temps at the artic circle the equator only raises 1°. If you look at the fossil records from when earth had much much more CO2 and was significantly hotter earth had more wild life by far, earth is healthier when it's hotter.

If you want to help the environment dedicate more land for wildlife, create continent spanning wildlife corridors, and clean the friggen pollution from the waterways and oceans. Banning carbon is literally nothing compared to any one of these alternatives.

Started reading house goy's book about time looping harry pooper
It's fun

>>23042685
I too hate women

>>23042921
Yeah... those wildlife lived in the ocean. Great if you're a fish, not so much if you're human or dog.

wouldn't it be crazy if there were trillion dollar oil/energy consortiums funding co2 emission disinfo?

>>23042921
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature

>>23042980
Based

>>23023796
A dearth of adventure stories and a total lack of entertainment at the forefront of writing.
>>23026543
Most nu-fantasy writers in the west have never consumed fantasy of any kind.
They're all aping Save The Cat advice, modern television and young adult women's lit.

>>23031883
A convention clique meme pushed because Le Guin was the 'right type' (upper-middle class californian faux-progressive conveniently only on social questions) who was willing to look the other way when it came to the child abuse in contemporary west coast convention circles.
Genuinely mediocre books that become terrible the further you get and if you think otherwise then try reading Tehanu first. The closest she ever gets to anything of interest is just her trying to ape Dunsany's prose.

>>23032667
>>23032764
Greenwood stole heavily from Greyhawk anyway.