/lit/ - Literature

>>23016524
Why do you care

>>23016528
Lot's o people care. Why do you not care? Is it because you know it was Edward DeVere?

>>23016551
That's not a real answer
Why do you care

>>23016524
>>23016528
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>>23016554
i went back in time and wrote them

>>23016554
You know that super famous author who wrote about nearly every aspect of the greater human conditions in a superb manour? Did you know that whole Shakespeare guy was just made up and lots of people went along with it? Anyway who cares boring right?
Shakespeare was a brilliant ass guy anyways. Not want the kind of noteriety Dosto got.

>>23016524
Why not ask this question for every single author that exists as an oil painting?
Because WS is popular doesn't make his case any special to debate this topic.

>>23016579
If his works are so great then what does it matter who wrote them. The words remain the same. The sonnets stand eternal. Hamlet forever carries the skull. What does it matter if it was written by the son of a glovemaker or a disgraced noble. If De Vere or Bacon wished to hide behind the troupe maser who are you to disagree with their wishes. And if the Avon man wrote them who are you to try to deny his glory. There is no reason to care about this question at all

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>>23016599
incredible. who made this originally

>>23016610
Me, this poster>>23016564

A book told me that only elitists upset a commoner became the greatest writer in history come up with those kinds of conspiracies

>>23016629
for real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xOGeZt71sg

>>23016635
No cap

>>23016634
Please learn english

>>23016638
i dont trust you. that webm has poor video quality, meaning it was dowloaded. you'd have a higher quality version if it was you

>>23016648
I didn't post it. My work gets around. Like all that Shakespeare shit I pumped out a while back

>>23016646
This is 4chan not gonna write like a pseud

>>23016656
upload a higher quality one then?

>>23016597
The context in which works are written matters an enormous deal. I agree absolutely there's a timeless aspect to literature but we shouldn't entirely forget that these are works specific to a certain time and place because otherwise we stop being able to understand them. Actually the belief that the plays are entirely eternal are part of the retrospective fallacy of the anti-Stratfordian perspective -- anti-Stratfordians usually believe that everything about Shakespeare was meticulously planned with elaborate intricate designs, that even Shakespeare's name could not be left to chance, whereas Stratfordians are more likely to accept that chance and contingency was and is an element of the creative process. Anti-Stratfordians usually believe that the man behind Shakespeare always knew of his superhuman greatness, otherwise there is little reason to fabricate a conspiracy to hide his identity, whereas Stratfordians usually infer from the plays that Shakespeare was somewhat oblivious to it. In short anti-Stratfordians, especially Oxfordians, believe he was born great, whereas Stratfordians believe he either achieved greatness or had greatness thrust upon him. Although of course he's still great either way, I don't think we can understand the what of his greatness fully unless we know how he was great.

>>23016690
sent ;)

>>23016597
If someone did include a cipher then obviously his intent was to garner peoples interest. That coupled with the cryptic introductions of numerous publications just pique interest. Which is the whole point is it not? Anyway people have revealed it here before and it is all there for whomever has a want to find it. Who am i to upset tradition?

>>23016524
Your time-traveling mumsy, when she went back to shag the peasantry of greater Londinium.

>>23016597
If it was De Vere and or Bacon it matters a great deal

>>23016691
Holy spooks

>>23016524
Trans women of color.

>>23016524
Who cares.

Shakespeare is worthless drivel.

>>23016599
kek'd

>>23016599
what a nigger

>>23016597
This. Homer likely never existed, or at least he was several wandering bards and chroniclers, but to the world the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey is simply Homer.

Merlowe

>>23016524
J. K. Rowling

>>23016524
Recently found out Georg Cantor, the mathematician, was Baconian.

>>23019119
Here.

>>23016524
I thought the Oxfordians were shizos but I read one of de Vere’s letters and it’s literally Shakespeare in prose form. I refuse to believe anyone who reads it could still think he didn’t write those plays. Here’s part of it:

>And herein I am forced like a good and politic captain oftentimes to spoil and burn the corn of his own country, lest his enemies thereof do take advantage. For rather than so many of your countrymen should be deluded through my sinister means of your industry in studies (whereof you are bound in conscience to yield them an account) I am content to make spoil and havoc of your request, and that, that might have wrought greatly in me in this former respect, utterly to be of no effect or operation: and when you examine yourself what doth avail a mass of gold to becontinually imprisoned in your bags, and never to be employed to your use?

>I do not doubt even so you think of your studies and delightful Muses. What do they avail, if you do not participate them to others? Wherefore we have this Latin proverb: Scire tuum nihil est, nisi te scire hoc sciat alter. What doth avail the tree unless it yield fruit unto another? What doth avail the vine unless another delighteth in the grape? What doth avail the rose unless another took pleasure in the smell? Why should this tree be accounted better than that tree, but for the goodness of his fruit? Why should this vine be better than that vine, unless it brought forth a better grape than the other? Why should this rose be better esteemed than that rose, unless in pleasantness of smell it far surpassed the other rose?

>And so it is in all other things as well as in man. Why should this man be more esteemed than that man, but for his virtue, through which every man desireth to be accounted of? Then you amongst men I do not doubt, but will aspire to follow that virtuous path, to illuster yourself with the ornament of virtue. And in mine opinion as it beautifieth a fair woman to be decked with pearls and precious stones, so much more it ornifieth a gentleman to be furnished in mind with glittering virtues.

https://shakespeareoxfordfellowship.org/preface-to-bedingfields-translation-of-cardanus-comfort-by-edward-de-vere/

"Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of that name."

Authorship inquirers: hmm the history and riddles surrounding Shakespeare sure are interesting
Stratfordians: NOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RESEARCH THAT YOU'RE A PRETENTIOUS ELITIST CLINGING TO FRINGE BELIEFS TO APPEAR INTELLIGENT DO NOT THREATEN OUR TOURISMBUX

wait is that youtuber here?

>>23020254
You seem insecure

>>23016524
this has to be the biggest cope the mankind seethed into existence