/lit/ - Literature

A bit early for a new thread, don't you think?

>>22979042
Shut up, nerd.

>>22979027
first for more milfs in fantasy books

>>22974671
>Kushiel's dart gets a full cover display
>it's a very funny prank to recommend that to romance fantasy fans
jokes on you, i like romance AND cuckoldry

>>22979027
I finished reading Monolith, the second title of the Heaven's Laws series. It took a little bit to get its bearing but it was an enjoyable read that had me eventually turning the page. While it did not have the highs that book one had, it did present subversion of xianxia tropes in a manner I liked (some examples include sect leaders lamenting behavior of their sect; friendship/comradery between leaders instead of the weird autistic antisocial aversion you see everywhere; awareness of power and how it can corrupt/turn into tyranny, etc. The series follows a young pair of dual cultivators (married) and this book in particular baits and fucking lures at the start building up for the events of book 3 that you think may happen in book 2. This book is ultimately a slower laidback degree of SoL filler, as the couple prepare and train to travel to the Northern Continent and partake within a divine clan's trials. It does do the cool thing where the ancient building/spire/tower left behind as a training ground/inheritance by an ancient divine cultivator also doubles as a spaceship and of course the maleMC's control of the laws allows him to control the building.

>last
>current
>next

>>22979448
isn't that a cuck rape book

>>22979448
trash even xanxia standards

>>22979651
Trash even by xanxia standards.

>>22979365
Mein Neger

Got a small bronze statuette of A'Tuin for my birthday, it's so cool.

>>22979027
Machine Vendetta, Prefect Dreyfus Emergency #3 / Revelation Space - Alastair Reynolds (2024)

Six years have passed both in the real world and in-universe since the last book was published. From early on the characters begin referencing events from four years ago, a text search shows they directly do so twenty times throughout the book, and that confused me. Had I entirely forgotten what had happened and these characters? No, I hadn't, this was simply a case of Reynolds having a lot of stuff happen outside of the written story. The way it's presented though is as if the reader is already aware of everything. Usually when a book follows up from events that occurred it's something that happened in previous books. That's not the case here, as it's mostly a follow-up to the events of four years ago, which sought to resolve the Clockmaker and Aurora situation.

Tom Dreyfus and Thalia Ng are the two major perspectives, though there's a few other minor ones. This is probably one of the least convoluted books that Reynolds has written. It's almost entirely a straightforward investigation going from place to place and talking with people. Most of the thriller, survival, and action scenes are gone, as is much of the stuff from the wider Revelation Space series. Depending on your preferences this may be considered mundane, if not dull, because there isn't anything particularly exciting and certainly nothing epic. Yet, somehow it worked better for me than what the previous books did.

If you've read a few books from Reynolds before, you're aware that identity issues may be his favorite plot device. They're present here, but I think for first time Reynolds has a scene where he acknowledges and intervenes with the identity issues because he knows you're speculating about the identity of a character. The identity issues are eventually resolved in a way that could be considered divisive.

This is where I admit that I don't know what it is about this time, but for some reason I felt especially charitable about all the issues that would've otherwise bothered me. Others may feel the problems to be of greater severity, but unlike the previous books there wasn't anything here that lessened my enjoyment. There were several questionable narrative choices, but it seems I've become inured to them or maybe it was my mood.

I didn't notice it until I was doing text searches, but I realized whenever Ng is mentioned by itself I unconsciously replaced it with Thalia. This led to me wondering why she was always referred to by her first name while Dreyfus is almost always referred to by his last. Stuff like this has happened before.

The ending concludes Dreyfus's story and I'm satisfied with both that it has ended and how it has. It took some plot contrivances to get to this point, but apparently I don't mind.

Rating: 3.5/5 (4)

Previously in the series
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=Dreyfus+&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

>>22979027
I want a full novel (or a long short story), just like the Priest's tale in the first Hyperion. I read the first book, and half of the second, and I still like Father Dure's story the best.

>>22979697
Ugh.. another lgbt tranny garbage from commie reynolds. Added to my do not read list.

>>22979737
based

>>22979027
So the elephant was some ancient cosmic alien being who was the last of it's kind right? Shit was surreal. Howard must have been reading a lot of Indian epics and shit when writing that.

>>22979027
Is wheel of time slop? Genuine question.

I was expecting something less dense and more superficial, I thought that even if it's 900 pages it would be a quick read, as it's pulp, guess I was wrong...

The poetry is nice tho

>>22979616
It's the book where the femMC gets raped and the maleMC kills the rapist, retrieves her virgin yin, and has her unraped. There's more involved but that's all you were looking for with your
>cuck
newfag commentary.
>>22979651
>>22979657
The term is 'xianxia', trash.
>>22979697
Oh he finally decided to finish the Prefect series? Huh.

>>22979808

>>22979448
>last
Age of surveillance capitalism by Zuboff
DNF, 99% fluff, terrible author needs an editor.
How to read a book by Adler
Pretty good, not very useful for me I suppose.

>current
Neverwhere by Gaiman (author preferred)
Very good, it's like a dark studio Ghibli book. Love the tone and the humor sometimes. I will definitely check out other stuff by him now, anyone have suggestions for next books by him?

>next
Dune messiah
I hate when I check out books people actually want from the library cause I can't keep renewing them forever. This isn't my ideal next read but to the top it goes.

>>22980091
>I will definitely check out other stuff by him now
gross

>>22979805
Is this post slop? Genuine question.

>>22979805
Touch grass

Ook-tually good Lit-RPG

>Book of The Dead
>The Tutorial Is Too Hard
>The Reincarnation of Alysara
>Dawn of The Void
>Eight
>The Mana Influx
>Red Mage
>Hell Difficulty Tutorial
>Age of Stone
>Overgeared
>As Good as Dead
>The Nailmaker
>Cinnamon Bun
>The Warlord

Ook-tually good Fantasy and sci-fi

>Ringworld
>Neuromancer
>Melody of Mana
>There Are Superheroes In This Story
>Warlock of The Magus World
>A Neets Guide To Becoming A God
>The Reality Dysfunction
>What We Do To Survive
>A Practical Guide To Magic
>Healer of Monsters
>Blame
>Sokaiseva
>I Am Not Chaotic Evil
>12 Miles Below
>Beserk
>Violent Solutions
>Tenebroum

Obviously not a definitive list so stop getting your autism friendly underpants in a twist

the ai avatarfag hasn't read any of that

>>22980454
My bad.
>A Practical Guide To Magic = A Practical Guide To Sorcery

>>22980459
You say this every thread, why do you lie like this? i have read all that and much more trad-pub work. is it because i think Lord of the mysteries is shit or because i pointed out that Bakker's work has heavy homoerotic themes?

>>22980459
He's read some (or parts of) but believes this extends to everything, of which he clearly has not read all of. It arose as a response to "/sffg/ recommendations": a shitposter shitposting at a shitposter.

>>22980513
that only applied to the shitposters recommendation list. Because life is too short to completely read bad bad literature.

>>22980091
If you like Neverwhere try Stardust next.

>>22980091
I've read American God's, Good omens, and the graveyard book from him.

American Gods was good. And is probably his most popular book. Premise is what if God's were created by what we worship.
Originally it was people like Odin, Thor, and Jesus. But new gods are based on more abstract concepts like the internet, television, and the railroad.
There is conflict brewing between the old Gods and the new.

Good omens. Another popular one from him and also Terry prachett. You follow an angel and a demon that spent too much time on earth and have grown attached.
Their bosses try and start the apocalypse and they try to avoid it without being too obvious about it.
Fairly comedic from what I remember but I enjoyed it.

The Graveyard book is a play on The Jungle Book. It's more of a novel for a younger audience from what I remember (it's been a decade).
Protagonist's parents get murdered and he is raised by supernatural creatures in a nearby cemetery. That's about all I can remember

I have also heard that Sandman is very good. But I haven't read it and don't know anything about it

just finished the moon is a harsh mistress, what an interesting book. I'm glad I suddenly got the urge to try it out. Is Heinlein's other stuff worth reading? Thinking about reading stranger in a strange land, i've already read starship troopers but I might do a reread

I just finished the Lilith's Brood trilogy by Octavia Butler. They were really interesting books about humanity being rescued from nuclear destruction by a seemingly benevolent alien species, but the price is that humanity's genes will now be combined with the alien's in order to create a new race. It's about progress, fear of the unknown, self determination, the meaning of survival, and the problem of human nature .

>>22980901
I read the first book and it was awful. There reasons for her books being well-regarded obviously have very little to do with her writing.

>>22980533
If you need someone to tell you that litrpg's are shit then you deserve no pity at all.

>>22980908
Some people gotta try tear down a proud black woman. Shaking my dang head.

>>22979805
all fantasy is slop CHUD!

Finished Under Heaven. It was a lot of fun. I just kind of wish I knew enough Chinese history to know which civil war and mass consumption of civilians he’s playing off.

>>22980882
No, Harsh Mistress and Starship Troopers are it. DO NOT read anything else

>>22970166
azarinth healer was armature-level slop. where would (you) rank it amongst these? so i know which others i should skip.

I read the Foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov
It's nowhere near as bad I as expected but it's still very fart-sniffingly satisfied with itself. Lots of intellectual pretense and little intellectual payoff. On the plus side it's hilarious how flagrantly Games Workshop plagiarized Foundation for Warhammer 40,000 considering how infamously litigious they are over IP copyrights, I'm amazed Harlan Ellison never snookered them while he was alive.
Overall 6.5/10, 7 if I'm being generous.

>>22980454
>Book of The Dead
Turned to shit after the first 50 chapters

>>22981114
Isn't that with roastie mc? Goes into garbage section.

>>22981211
it does lull a bit but when he gets to the city and infiltrates as an artificer dude it starts to ahktually get good with more world exploration and character additions.

I've spent a great deal of time listening to the 'Ty and That Guy' podcast and I've come to the conclusion that Ty Franck is an insufferable cunt who should never have been given a podcast and his mere presence in a room with other producers is likely why many actors post-Expanse are having a struggle. The man has absolutely no gravitas. Decent books though.

>>22981359
me on the left

reading a light/web novel because there are a bajillion of them and i can easily view them

its called "shadow slave"

I've decided one day while reading a manga, because I can read those faster than I can physically watch an anime.
>Hey, why don't I take it a step further and read the source material (light nov) of the source material (manga) of the final product (anime)

light novels only require just to type out the words you know, and it seems that in the anime business, the higher up in the chain of production the amount of work required increases exponentially.


I also think I can imagine characters better to suit my individual taste for them than any artist can draw their manga

>>22981533
Also these mediums force you into speedreading them because there is so many chapters and there are SO MANY GOOD STORIES AND SO LITTLE TIME


as a sidenote speedreading is a very good skill, so when I want to look at a wikipedia later I can just read the whole thing in a second and have all the information memorized

>>22981535
personally, I've never felt the warmth of a woman and I want to read a couple romance light/web novels to implant that type of feeling inside of my memory.

Plus since speed reading is so overstimulating, the voices are unable to speak to me. (this is enough on its own to get me to read but I pretend that the voices arent there... because they arent and other benefits are more encouraging)

I will become good at speedreading soon. I am working dilligently towards it

>>22981533
that particular one has 1390 chapters and it is ongoing

I'm particularly interested as to how a light novel handles a romance slice of life scenario like the various animes that exist on that premise

>Be Rothfuss
>Release a new book after years of radio silence
>This somehow makes 90% of your fanbase angry
Lmao this man's career is dead beyond repair

Time for Farnham's Freehold.

>>22980882
Stranger in a Strange Land is pretty good

>>22981533
>>22981535
>>22981541
reads like a complete schizo wrote this

>>22980882
There are a few books of his that should be read in order. I would recommend the following books, which are not apart of this story and can be read at any time:
>Green Hills of Earth (read the collection, which contains the title story and few others)
>Stranger in a Strange Land
>The Rolling Stones (which is a loose "sequel" published before Moon is a Harsh Mistress)
>Farmer in the Sky (technically one of the juvenile novels Heinlein wrote for the boy scouts; it is some of the best YA fiction he wrote)

The books he wrote that need to be read in order make up his best storyline. But you should read more before you get to them, as they have loose connections with other works. But they are:
1. Methuselah's Children
2. Time Enough for Love
3. The Number of the Beast (Stranger in a Strange Land recommended before this one)
4. The Cat Who Walks Through Walls (TMIAHM and The Rolling Stones extremely recommended before this one)
5. To Sail Beyond The Sunset
I posted my tierlist above and am currently on a mission to read (almost) every Heinlein. If you read Time Enough for Love and aren't feeling it, don't bother with the last three of that order. Time Enough for Love is pretty much his central thesis in the latter half of his writing career.

for me it's to sail beyond the sunset

>>22981725
It's a very bittersweet book; both in tone and as Heinlein's last novel. It also operates as part-autobiographical wish fulfilment. The last line of the book really got me. But the writing definitely has some problems and there is a constant thread of retconning from Time Enough for Love. I find it better than Number of the Beast, but only slightly.

>>22981615
grim

>>22981701
Light novels are modern day s
Shakespeare, can you imagine if the entire script to breaking bad was released to the public for people to read? You'd be able to consume breaking bad in half the time or a quarter of the time it takes to watch the show.

>>22979805
It's good

>last
The Land of Laughts, by Jonathan Carroll
it's pretty good, i loved the start and then it turns into a completely different book, but it's still nice. at times it's quite funny, i recommend it overall, good and quick read. the second to last scene, when he leaves the town, i felt was rushed and didn't fit too well, idk somehow i didn't care much for it. but then the last scene is very good, it ties everything up very nicely

>current
Tuf Voyaging by grr martin
only read the first quarter or so but it's quite good so far, the characters and plot are somewhat dumb and caricatured, it feels like a light tv comedy but without the jokes. but it's amusing and the plot is fun quick paced, i'm enjoying it

>next
probably The Graveyard Book by Gaiman, after finding out in this thread the movie Stardust was based on a book and this guy wrote it

>>22981114
Not them but Azarinth is probably the worst webnovel that I've read excluding ones with obviously incompetent writing on page 1 and I've gotta be getting close to having read 100 of the things.
And that was with me reading the heavily revised epub release.
The general rule for webnovels is that anything with a chapter per day release is just the author spamming out whatever's on the top of their head, it's never planned or edited enough to be good. And that's how Azarinth got popular, just constant releases as royalroad was growing in popularity

>>22981984
any recommendations? i've tried a few that were similar to the quality of azarinth healer and then HWFWM and DCC which were actually good. DCC sort of in a league of it's own so far.

>>22982051
The webnovels I'd classify as good off the top of my head are:
Zombie Knight Saga, Practical Guide to Evil, Calamitous Bob (and the other 2 stories by the author), Super Supportive, Mother of Learning and The Perfect Loop. Also The Hitting Zone but that's not fantasy
Worm and Wandering Inn are well written and popular but I don't really like them.

Also if you just want to read the progression fantasy subgenre the best stuff is books rather than webnovels with cradle and weirkey chronicles being the standouts.

any recommendations on novels dealing with underground societies/civilizations or similar?

>>22981359
The first major red flag was when he summoned that vampire roastie, already that felt like it's turning into trash, but ok. The second red flag and the one that made me drop it was when his old girlfriend showed up out of nowhere. Right then and there I knew it's gone to shit.

What writers are great at writing stories that are easy to visualize and/or have great wordplay?

>>22979027
thumbnail looks vaguely like a vagina/uterus.

>>22982099
cool, thanks

>>22981533
>>22981535
>>22981541
jesus christ

>>22981533
>>22981535
>>22981541
>light/web novel
This nonsensical screed can be totally btfo by someone copy pasting the first page. Chinklit is so ugly and pointless in its construction that a normal person, even someone who doesn't read a lot, is instinctually repulsed by it. And for good reason; it is so beyond worthless in comparison to any other form of media that the only people reading and enjoying it are genuinely those who don't know any better.

>>22982235
What have you been reading recently?

>>22982235
This.
Read quality western fantasy about a purple haired female mc (they/them) fighting against patriarchy.

>>22982238
I read several things at once and take a long time to finish them. I've been reading The White Company though and am enjoying it. I've found that you tend to get better fantasy stories in historical fiction. Especially when considering more modern publications.

>>22982250
There are already more good novels than you can read in a lifetime. Why you'd think the choice is only between mechanical worthless system-shit and womanish politicised fantasy is beyond me.

4km more (yesterday
5 + 15 + 2 + 10 pages read. From 4 different books so they don't count to my goal
Better than most days but still feels like nothing.

>>22982274
I want strong power fantasy without (western) moralfaggotry, retarded western heroism, simping and pussy on pedestal. After I read RI my thinking and understanding completely changed. I don't want and will not read western simping novels which most western novels unfortunately are, let alone modern progressive garbage.

>>22982306
you've been shilling that slop for months. kill yourself already

>>22982306
I'll illustrate the point I made here: >>22982235

Actually go and read: https://novelmax.net/n/reverend-insanity/chapter-1 It is complete gibberish.
>He is ching chong level bing bong - that means celestial dragon jutsu
Who gives a fuck? Its nonsense, and reads like total crap. Like a teenager scrawling power fantasies in their diary. But they only know about videos games, or have some massive insecurity, so it must be layered in systems to disguise the fact it has no substance. That the only thing being said is "this guy is strong" over and over and over, very blandly.

To give you an example, The First Chronicles of Druss is in every way superior. More interesting characters, better written, better action, better 'lessons', and better at evoking emotion in the reader.

>>22982369
You must only have read the first chapter of RI. What you have described perfectly fits any litrpg but not RI (or xanxia in general)

>More interesting characters, better written, better action, better 'lessons', and better at evoking emotion in the reader
Is that the one where he goes on a journey to save some roastie (almost getting himself killed in the process) ? I am not really interested in western hero/savior stories, nu pussy on pedestal for me, I also can't imagine what kind of shitty lessons such novel even attemps to 'teach' the reader.

>>22981615
>Release a new book
See, thats the problem, its not really new

>>22982306
based!

>>22982449
A woodsman journeying to rescue his wife isn't putting pussy on a pedestal, you'd have to be brain damaged to think that. Spoiler of course, but none of the themes of the novel relate to love; they don't reunite. It all relates to the warrior virtues (courage, strength, loyalty, etc), and how a young man's ideas of them evolve/are tempered as he encounters more of the world.

Post something comparable to this: https://pastebin.com/fR5Lv75f
from RI. If that had been RI, the guy would have dropped and started pissing himself. Or revealed that he had some kind of magic previously unknown.

Im not ever going to pay for a shitty western novel when I can read a bajillion light novels from a free online light novel reading website

>>22982547
B-B-Based!

>>22982547
>I'd rather continually commit grievous self-harm than pirate
Grim

>>22982542
Isn't the entire novel about him going to save her? Isn't he literally going on his quest because of her, to save her? Did he even exist as a warrior before his wife got kidnapped? Would he even exist (in a fictional sort of sense) if his wife was never kidnapped? The warriors highest ideal is go out into the world ...to save a woman! I feel sorry for such warrior and people who read such nonsense.

And what about that excerpt? It's pretty good, detailed description of some hand to hand mma fight but is that even fantasy? RI is fantasy, there little if any mma style fighting.

You guys are an embarrassment to your parents.

Just read stories written before 1968.

>>22982665
Sounds like an arbitrary year. Why that date?

Fantasy where dudes are older than 30? Loved Kelsier's storyline in Mistborn, hated how everything was set up for this 15 y/o kid and all her angst.

>>22982697
There's lots of books with adult MCs could use some more info to narrow down recommendations

That being said I'll throw out some anyway.

The Black Company has pretty much all the characters acting like adults and the characters age by like 40 years over the series.
Don't be put off by it being an older book series. It holds up well.

If you like Rome you could try Videssos cycle by Harry Turtledove.
The premise is what if a company of roman soldiers from the late republic got sent to a world with some magic and had to work as mercs for what is essentially the Byzantine empire. Most characters might be under 30 to start, but there isn't any teen angst

Malazan has got a few guys who are older or get old during the series. But it's one hell of a commitment. And lots of people get filtered when they try to start it

>>22982369
based Gemmell enjoyer destroying faggot web novelists

>>22982658
The story is about how the ideals and notions of a young man change throughout a heroic journey. The wife is just a call to action. All the lessons learned are relating to strength and right action from a variety of mentors or companions.

Also,
>post something good from revered insanity then
>scrambles back to the "i need something immoral and hecking based"
>doesn't post anything
Lol. Because if you do post something from RI people will see its complete junk. Worthless prose, no ideas, shitty action, etc etc.

>>22981088
Similar to ASOIAF or not?

>>22982133
The Dark Elf Trilogy by Salvatore

Some books about dwarfs (The Silver Call Series by McKiernan, for example)

>>22982892
>>post something good from revered insanity then
>>scrambles back to the "i need something immoral and hecking based"
You are making things up, anyway enjoy this small passage from RI.

Webnovels and chinkshit are not /sffg/. Go away.

>>22982141
He actually friend zones her and her gods then starts banging some smuggling chick who's into kinky shit. I too didn't expected it to go there but it was a pleasant surprise.

>>22983061
>Webnovels and chinkshit are not /sffg/. Go away.

anyone got good Bakker art? the stuff on the wiki is crap (no offence to the poor sod who worked hard to draw it)

>>22983135
Wasted potential. So sad.

>>22983148

>>22983170
The vampire roastie doesn't enjoy nor can participate in sex. It's a dead body. It would be like fucking a fleshlight realdoll.

>>22983186

>>22983148

What are some lesser known "wish fulfillment" (OP MC) fantasy books I should read?

>>22983271
just google progression fantasy and pick something you've never seen before. they're all the same shit anyway.

Just finished Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion and gotta rant.

2/5. Some clever writing/composition tricks, unique-ish takes on sci-fi tech. But man. Not a sci-fi book, this is pretentious, self-important blasphemy on the nature of God. That's it. Plus Dan Simmons comes off as a creep, and that's coming from 4chan

>>22983187
>that's exactly what he wants

Anyone have any thoughts on Roadside Picnic? Just finished it and I’m not sure how to take it. I see a conflation between science and religion as some sort of insufficient balm for the inherent unknowable nature of the universe by human minds, especially at the very end with Red’s pseudo-spiritual outburst. Maybe it’s more political and I just don’t know enough about the USSR though.

>>22983019
This is terrible...

>>22983019
>crazily struggle
>steps wasn't
These grammatical errors in translation is so shit I can't even read past it. How do people actually read this without getting pissed off?

>>22983019
>Bai Ning Bing followed Fang Yuan's line of sight to Bai Sheng and Bai Hua, and then Fang Bing Bing farted on Ling Ling

What are /sffg/'s biggest guilty pleasure books?

>>22983449
Ya you pretty much got it. Movie is good too

>>22983019
I would rather read sandersharts entire bibliography than read a chapter of this asinine machine translated drivel. you have got to be some kind of mexican

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

>>22983698
Sandershit is terrible, you should read Rothfuss instead.

>>22983790
brudda, i aint some white boy into cug shit.

>>22982697
Quest for Lost Heroes.
Trigger warning: There is a homosexual couple, but their faggotry is so subtle you might actually miss they're meant to be fags. They literally do not do anything gay at all in the novel.

>>22982133
Nocturnal by Scott Sigler

>>22983817
Xir, we also have lgbtq++ (gay/lesbian/trans/non-binary/pansexual) and ethnic/non-white science fiction and fantasy literature available here. If you would like feminist and antipatriarchy (SFF) writings, we have those too! Ask the review anon or any of the openly gay, cuck, or coomer posters for recommendations.

>>22981533
imagine the kinds of stories that a whole generation brought up on schlock like this will write

>>22983880
Not sure if it can get worse anymore. Just look at hugos and nebulas.

>>22983659
It's not even a guilty pleasure.

Just ordered Sailor on the Seas of Fate and Vanishing Tower last two Elric books I needed so going to have a a comfy week reading through the entire series. What's your favourite in the original six Elric books?

By the way was wondering if we could discuss books like Streiber's Communion or the Morhman Prophecies here? I have no idea where they technically fall I guess more into horror/non-fiction but they definitely have /sffg/ elements right

What /sffg/ should be reading and discussing:
>Golden age sci fi
>New wave sci fi
>Fantasy (Tolkien and prior)
>Short science fiction
What /sffg/ "reads" and discusses:
>"worldbuilding"
>Eastern European sci fi
>Endless genreslop series
>chinkshit
>gookshit
>Modern fantasy
>Webnovels
>"Litrpg"
>Pseud-traps, namely: W*lfe, Canticle for Lebowitz, G*rmenghast

>>22983019
>This is the BEST example he could find

I want standalone fantasy novels not attached to any existing prior franchise and I want them to have a pre-Tolkien aesthic getting kind of bored of having Ic e and Fure ripoff too thrown in my face

But I know I will get monkey pawed somehow

>>22983213
Nice. Where’d you find this?

>>22981533
>reading a manga, because I can read those faster than I can physically watch an anime

Kek this is why I read manga too

>>22984151
I agreed until that last part. Don't lump them in with all that other lowbrow shit
>>22984168
Pic related
The Broken sword

>>22984231

>>22984168
Lyonesse

>>22984231
Seconding The Broken Sword.

Has anyone here read The Black Company? I have a quick question:
I've just finished the Books of the South (The Lady just had a baby and it got stolen). I'm debating whether to continue reading or stop. Does Lady turn into an ultra obnoxious grrr I'm a mother character? I can't stand that shit

Should I keep going or just stop here?

>>22984205
quintvc has a lot of Bakker stuff. Mostly sketches though.

>>22984151

Any suggestions in the former category? Preferably stuff people would be less likely to have read before.

>>22984367
>>22984309

>try the horror genre because I am in the mood for spooky shit
>Stephen King - Revival
>like 100 pages of boring childhood memory
>dropped
>John Langan - The Fisherman
>pages after pages of sleep inducing marriage story
Is this the norm of this genre?
Nothing happened for most of the book then horror for the last few pages?

>>22984151
>modern traditional published authors are actually capable of finishing a series.

>>22984405
If you're not a homolord and don't mind reading short stories I would recommend Ghouljaw and Other Stories.

>>22984405
>>22984416
I would also recommend Behold the Void by Philip Fracassi.

>>22984405
no. You are reading woman/faggot approved writers. Start with Lovecraft and michael shea short story The autopsy. They actually made a good short film adaptation of it as well.

>>22984422
*The stories Altar and Mandala are especially haunting.

>>22984405
Dark Matter by Michelle Paver doesn't waste time getting to the spooky shit.

>>22984233
>black fantasy novel is titled "the quest for kush"

>>22984470
das rite wytboi

KLARKASH-TON

>>22984405
I started the fisherman yesterday, the marriage stuff seemed to end pretty a quickly

Also go read this, great horror

>>22983505
"People" don't read it.

>>22984361
I wouldn't say that she does. She cares, but the whole daughter going missing plays a smaller part in the story then you'd expect. Especially since they never get her back

>>22983903
And thanks to the Chinese government, maybe even those lefties will recognize the Hugo award as worthless now.

>The entire 70+ book Horus Heresy series came and went in the time it took GRRM to release 1 ASOIAF book
pretty funny

>>22984890
And yet, GRRM is worth an order of magnitude more than all the authors combined. Mind-boggling to think how enormous the role chance plays in our lives. It was him, but it could have been anyone.

Also, I've been meaning to say this for a while, but it's fucking turbo RETARDATION that I have to pass a Cloudfare check just to fucking RECEIVE the captcha to post now. Hiromoot needs to anhiro ASAP. Fucking dipshit POS.

>>22984993
>GRRM is worth an order of magnitude more than all the authors combined
Thanks for starting your post with this so I know to not bother with the rest.

>>22984997
Too stupid to finish a sentence? You'll realize it's the opposite of what you think it is. Typical 4channer, rage posting the minute he's confronted with an idea that does not literally come from his own brain verbatim. You should an hero too, you fucking faggot.

>wwah you didn't worship the fat man
ok

>>22985003
Coward can't quote. Classic numale behavior. Reading comprehension of a 3 year old and a fucking turbo pussy to boot.

>>22984151
Where does Bakker come into this?

>>22981725
That and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress are the best Heinlein novels imo
Also nice choice, xb and Tara Tainton are the best at what they do
>>22981734
Same, never thought that a book about a mom wanting to have sex with her son (again) was going to get me emotional

Took the time on my flight from Honolulu to LA to finish reading Three Hearts And Three Lions and The Misplaced Legion. Both feel like it wasn't worth the effort.

3H3L is important only as it relates to its derived fantasy (D&D, Moorcock, Warhammer, etc) as a whole, the book itself is not very good. I wouldn't even say it's complete, it feels like it's just the prologue to another story.

Misplaced Legion is boring until finally at the end when things happen on a cliffhanger. Can't recommend it unless you're a total romaboo + byzanboo.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

After having multiple people tell me how good the way of kings is I gave sanderson another chance after how bad mistborn was. I'm 1/3 through.
What do people find so great about this book? It just seems so juvenile. All the current problems seem to stem from people (in power) being ignorant retards. And the "intrigue" is on another level. wow such conflict.
the worldbuilding is deep as a puddle. Everything being crablike is an interesting idea and the gender division thing could become good as well, but because it is implemented the way it is it just seems like filler make so his book "has worldbuilding".
Why is the pacing so bad? Why is there so much repeated again and again? Why does he overexplain everything said MULTIPLE TIMES?

I was adamant on pulling through with it, thinking it surely has to get better, but I'm 1/3 done now and it just keeps getting worse with more and more chapters of Dalinar out-retarding everyone around him.

>>22979027
Watched Voyage of the Demeter and thought it was garbage so I decided to read the original book; is it any good?

>>22982099
I read Under the dragon moons, and boy did that one get me with a surprisingly compelling opening using ancient Rome as a building block for a litrpg. The author felt like there wasn't enough material so they reconnected the entire plot and skipped 10 thousand years killing all the characters except 5 so they could make it generic western fantasy crossed with generic chinese fantasty. I read like 500 chapters of slop because it had one good arc at the start with moral ambiguity, stakes, interesting characters, and an overarching plot. After finishing that I read 3 chapters of Azarinth, got ptsd and dipped.

>>22981788
Hahahahaahahh

>>22982151
China mieville

What are the best examples of a fantasy protagonist being unintentionally written as a straight up autist?

>>22985266
And the first book is supposed to be the peak of the series, it's all downhill if you keep going.

>Guarantees that the story is utter trash

>>22985266
I mean, you've read 1/3 of the first book, so there's 700 pages left only on this one, not to mention 5000+ pages if you decide to go read the rest.
As they say, life is too short to waste your time doing something you don't like.
Also, speaking of the book, it follows the regular Reddit/Goodreads ultra overwhelmingly positive reviewed books: Soulless/chewed plot, YA aesthetic, easy solutions to hard problems and so on. Curiously enough, the people that you see raving about these kind of literary works are the ones that need to give a good review about everything, no matter how shit it is. That's what bloats the scores of books like this one.

>>22979448
>last
Mort. It was my first Discworld novel and I had a blast with it.
>current
Mistborn The Final Empire. Just hit part 2 and am really enjoying it.
>next
Probably Mistborn: The Well of Ascension.

>>22983271
Dodging Prison and Stealing Witches (warning: HP fanfic)

>>22985307
it's not great. it's lauded for its importance rather than quality

>>22979027
hey thanks for making this thread

>>22986144
will we ever have another like it?

>>22985424
Autists don't make good protagonists
See: this thread

>>22986374
No.

>>22985490
litrpg, progression fantasy

I don't suppose there's a 1-2 volume collection of Clark Ashton Smith's complete works (or at least the short stories), is there? The Night Shade paperbacks seem fine, but I'd prefer one or two large hardcover volumes.

>>22985490
harem

>>22986567
>>22986583
Give it a rest already

How often do you see (in universe) meaningful theological positions represented in fantasy settings? Do they ever really debate philosophy and metaphysics in settings where there are confirmed deities who can be contacted and who are active in the world? A better way of phrasing it might be whether or not religion has any particular purpose beyond shallow plot device or setting backdrop.

For instance, if the Church is corrupt then is there a reason why it's corrupt other than their god being secretly evil? Did they warp some sort of doctrine, or did the most evil interpretation of a particular deity's scripture happen to win some schism a few hundred years ago?

>>22986588
Maybe the later books expand on it better, but Misplaced Legion has a lot of bickering back and forth about who the real heretics are between essentially fantasy Orthodox and Catholics

>>22986588
>theological positions represented in fantasy settings
I hope never. Religion was a mistake. Religion in fantasy is a symptom of deep brainwashing and chronic delusions, authors who add religion to fantasy are beyond help, they don't just have their daily irl thoughts and beliefs affected by this nonsense, even their creativity and imagination (which should be most free and unconstrained of all processes of the mind) are infected by it.

>>22986588
Malazan has quite a bit of this. At least over the entire series.

There isn't really a solid definition of what counts as a god or not in the series. So I just went with "someone who is worshiped"

But the relationship between a god and their priests and worshipers is often a major plot point.
At one point in the series. All the priests and temples of an ancient deity are killed and defiled. And it is revealed later that the god itself did it. Because the church chose the wrong side in the war between the established pantheon and the "new-kid" on the block.

At one point a demon tells a story to a person who could be considered a god. Long ago in the demon's clan, a new cult is formed around a lesser known deity in their pantheon.
They say they are the voice of this "Silent god" and create laws and punishments in his name.
Eventually some of the demons have had enough of the preisthood and venture out to find this god themselves and see what it has to say.
When they find the god, they find it dead. "It had died with the first drop of blood spilled in its name"

>>22986588
Staveley does some fairly interesting stuff with gods in his series. They tie into aspects of humanity and more deeply to the ancient conflict the story touches on, but it isn't overexplained and there is a lot of unknowns both in world and for the reader. A couple of them are physically present at parts of the story, but are alien and unhelpful in their behaviour even then.

I often like when big elements of world building are left incomplete as it gives a sense (or illusion) of depth, but I can see it also annoying people.

I never bothered reading past the first series since other elements of the story and writing didn't click with me, so I don't know how it develops beyond that.

>>22985490
>Bakker

>>22984083
>What's your favourite in the original six Elric books?
I'm reading the Del Rey, so I can't really tell. It's all weird and unique, so I guess I'll guy with the "first book" (beginning).

>>22982133
Anybody got the full gif of this Hasidic fella climbing out of the sewer and running off?

Is this the best choice for my first Arthur book?

>>22987647
>pictures
Yes.

>>22986588
I get what you're saying but 'corruption' in real world religion is just greed or power grabbing 90% of the time, why would it be different in fantasy.

Anyway as always the answer is that Chalion handles this in an interesting way. (and Monarchies of God)

>>22987647
Yeah it's fine although personally I'd just read The Once and Future King and then go back and read Monmouth/Gawain/Mallory if you're interested enough after to go read the original texts.

>>22983922
Ladies and gentlemen the average sffg reader

Rec me sci-fi kino that has pic related vibes.

>author puts a chapter "Asking for Leave"
>never comes back

~_______~

>>22988149

>>22986727

>>22984405
Stephan King is a writer where I can believe he really does love the shit he says he does he's just dogshit at mimicking it. He's not scary nor particularly interesting.

What's the dumbest premise for a story that you've enjoyed?

>>22988423
It's a rational approach to religion and religion in fantasy, you cannot understand it either because you are too low iq, or because you've been cucked by religion.

>>22988549
>Call it.

>read progression fantasy
>It's a story that would have been much better if the protagonist was a standard anime teenage boy rather than the 40 year old divorced exmilitary man that he is.
If you're gonna write about a guy in his 40's actually make the protag act like that rather than just giving him the mind of a teenage boy.

>culture/race lives in warm and dry climate
>all names are arabic or arabic--sounding

>>22988698
sure why not

>>22988678
Cant decide whether its a midlife wannabe self insert or a teenage tryhard

Was Harry Potter functionally unkillable by conventional means during the time that he was a horcrux? The list of things that can destroy those is pretty short. If you ran a fourth-year Harry over with a steamroller, what would happen?

>>22988717
write a fanfic about it, otherwise no one knows

Talk to me about A Scanner Darkly. I'll be finishing it soon, and I like it more than the other Dick novels I've read. I still don't like him as a person, as I can see him peeking out between the lines.
It feels like the ultimate novel about 70s hippie culture and drug addicts, but obviously from a very dark perspective looking back on everything like a tragedy. His typical themes of identity and subjective realities locks into place well with the subject of drug addicts losing their minds.

>>22986727
It's even more unfortunate when you think about how classic authors who actually lived in very religious Christian societies used their stories as an outlet for the vaulting Aryan imagination to push back against the walls of stuffy Jewish dogma and ultimately enrich it.
For authors now to write what amount to lowbrow cartoon adventures and then awkwardly try to inject fussy religious morals into them is both absurd and wasteful.

>>22982133
Skavenslayer by William King

>>22983019
>"You actually want to tamper with the modify at this juncture?"

>>22983019

>>22988893

>>22988678
Completely agree, take dungeon cuck Carl as a prime example of the genres poor characterisations. When presented with a life and death situation where a talking cat starts manipulationg him over and over again, he should not have befriended it. He should have killed it with fire.

>>22988678
>I have never heard of a midlife crisis

>to its anger and envy a thousand years is but the blink of an eye\

deltora quest is pure kino

>>22983505
there's nothing wrong with crazily struggle

>>22988771
Check warosu for previous comments. I dumped a bunch including his webpage with interviews and Q&As about the book/general.

>>22989058
Setting aside that the entire sentence is dogshit, it flows poorly. At minimum it should've been "struggle crazily".

>>22988771
Taken purely as science fiction, it's his best and most complete novel. Really enjoyed it. Of course he has others which are better schizo treatises, but I can only take so much of those.

>>22989532
>Taken purely as science fiction
One of his interviews stated that he had seen everything in the story irl. Obviously there is some fictional embellishment for the sake of the story (such as scramble suits).
https://philipdick.com/mirror/websites/pkdweb/A%20SCANNER%20DARKLY.HTM

>>22989532
Hit me with the schizo list. I assume VALIS and the sequels will be on there. I'm not sure (could check but I won't) that he had his schizo awakening before writing ASD, or if not it's interesting that you can see it as an extension of his psyche that existed beforehand.
I also read Ubik, which I would say may qualify.

>>22979805
The experience is worth it, imo. But the series is too long for its own good. I say get into it but if you feel the pace slogging, start to skim. The last 4 books are completely worth it

>>22982306
What's RI?

>>22989658
Apparition Crazy

>>22989658
Reverend Insanity I assume

I need your help finding a story that was quite wild, sadly I don't remember the author.
>It's about romans invading britan
>I think Marcus Aurelius is leading them
>He leads his men into some god forsaken part
>they end up havin no food
>they are close to starving and find a cave
>they hope to find a bear or something inside
>they end up waking up some eldritch monster/god
>the monster fights witht them and the other eldritch gods come to earth because of that
>Cthulhu comes out of the water
>Marcus prays to his gods
>Zeus starts to throw lightning at Cthulhu
>The romains manage to kill the monster
>the other gods go back home
>the story ends with the lingering feeling of dread because the men are still starving and now having the dead eldritch thing laying around

>>22989658
Priest Lunatic

>>22989658

>>22989795
>Swoosh, swoosh!
>Gulp.

>>22989795
>a pale look upon his skin

>>22979448
samefag here
Since I finished Martial World, I have begun (began?) Against the Gods. I am only almost-50 chapters in and I enjoy the immediate-retribution/vengeance-focused arc. Yun Che finally fixed his Veins and gained the mysterious whoa Heretic God's blood.
Also forgot my cool attention-grabbing image. Read Heaven's Laws. Monolith, the second book, even has a subplot focused around the maleMC wanting to torture a stupid deserving fuck.
>I can't just kill this guy!
>A quick death is too much!
>I must prolong his suffering... for justice!
fuck yeah seaking

>>22979027

>>22979027

>>22990188

>>22990246
>western character design

>>22990257
>Post three versions of a western character.
Peak vs peak, West mogs east hard in every way
>But what about slop?
Just don't consume slop, and slop exists in the east too.

>>22987647
That depends, are you able to get both volumes? Because the first volume of Howard Pyle's work is only about half the story, with all the grail stuff and the Lancelot/Guenevere affair, and the death of Arthur in battle with Modred, etc in the second book.
Otherwise I'd recommend getting the full Malory La Morte, which, while much harder to read, is also much more comprehensive (although it lacks many of the Merlin, La Bel Inconnu, Gawain, and Caradoc cycles, for which you might want to get a companion volume such as John Matthews' compilation "The Great Book of King Arthur")
I strongly recommend against getting TH White's Once and Future King series because it suffers from massive mid-20th century bowdlerization and contemporary (i.e. anti-medievalist) sociology and politics; it's scarcely better than Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court", or the musical Camelot with Richard Burton/Harris. It's something you should only consider after you've already thoroughly educated yourself on Arthurian lore, for absorbing its particular late-1930s-40s attitude towards the stories.

I'm covered in aphids.
help.

>>22990317
Aphids-guy irl ended up committing suicide :\

>>22986727

>>22990336
Can you think of anybody more pathetic than an atheist so butthurt about religion (which he thinks is fictional) that he cannot even condone a fictitious religion in a piece of fictional literature?

>>22990354
Not at the moment

>>22990331
Dick apparently had more friends die from drug overdose alone than I have in total

>>22990354
The judeaized faggot force feeding it to you in his story doesn't think it's fake. How retard do you have to be to make such a stupid argument

>>22990401
Wayne Barlowe is an atheist, but he's not a cringelord stormfag like you

>>22990354
>religion
>not fiction(al)
Pick one

Anyway I don't understand why should I accept religion, the "real" religion or a fictional religion in fictional literature. I don't like either religion, why should I have to suppress my dislike for it, why should I modify my behavior and my thoughts to enjoy fiction? I tell people irl to fuck off with their religious shit, I definitely not going to 'endure' this garbage in literature.

Rec me sci-fi kino that has pic related vibes.

>>22990454
A Warhammer 40000 novel with tyranids.

>>22990465
I said kino; not cringe-o.

>Echopraxia ending
>need to read author's Q&A to understand some plot points
I was expecting MC to suck vampire's titties not this shit. I assume Siri transmissions were really hacked and entire plot was orchestrated by Rorschach.
And am I ESL brainlet or Watts is very bad at describing ships, ship interiors and tech things without constant technobabble? In this book particular it's very hard to imagine ships and interiors without pictures. I don't remember such issues with any old hard SF writers.

>>22990279
I tried to read Malory but the writing was just too rambling and poor to appreciate the contents

>>22990430
All worldviews are religious

>>22990575
Malory is actually a redaction, his version is the compact and concise compilation of Arthurian tales. He excised probably 2/3 of the rambling repetitive lists of duels between names nobody's ever heard of or cared about.
Of course Pyle compresses Malory much further, he's probably the best compromise between "scholarly" and "layman's terms". But as I said you need to get all the volumes. And I was wrong earlier, it's not 2 volumes, it's 4. So you're getting 1/4 of King Arthur's story if you buy that. So at that point you may as well get the full fucking Malory for the amount of paper you're buying.
>Book 1: The Story of King Arthur and His Knights
>Book 2: The Story of the Champions of the Round Table
>Book 3: The Story of Sir Launcelot and His Companions
>Book 4: The Story of the Grail and the Passing of Arthur

I need someone to read the horror books of Matthew M. Bartlett and then tell me if they're any good.

How much magic can there be in a low fantasy story and it still be low fantasy? Does that change if the protagonist is the one doing the magic?

>>22990715
Low magic stuff is usually urban fantasy, when the protag struggles to do a spell, or has to do a low set up to do something, and it doesn't affect much.

>>22990715
low vs high fantasy doesn't mean "less vs more magic" it means "low vs high ideals"
high fantasy is when you use magic to fight the bad guy to save the world and all the people in it
low fantasy is when you use magic to fight the guy with power and money so you can take his power and money

Skyrim is high fantasy because the dragonborn uses magic to shout Alduin to death to keep him from eating the world and killing everyone
Conan the Barbarian is low fantasy because Thulsa Doom uses magic to turn into a snake and hypnotize retards into joining his cult and serving him

>>22990736
I thought low fantasy was stuff like Freaky Friday and Big

>>22990331
Fuck he laid it on thick at the end. Good novel but I was expecting more of a mindfuck plot where I'd be confused as to who was Arctor or Fred. There's no plot twists, just revelations. Dick played it very straight.

>>22990752
Those are arguably low fantasy, on the basis that the fantastical elements are there mainly for the mundane purpose of solving individual character flaws in the participants rather than affecting the setting on a cosmic scale. However they aren't "low" merely because there isn't very much magic, or because the setting isn't stereotypically fantastical (i.e. medieval)

>>22983019
This is complete drivel even without the translation errors. You mean to tell me there's an entire GENRE of this shit?

>>22990120

>>22990548
Did you read blindsight?

Although I do think Echopracxia implies Siri may not be Siri anymore anyway.

>>22990595
Worldviews of non religious people are not religious.

>>22990548
Watts made me reread passages multiple times to get what he was saying, so it's not just you. I think it's a mix of being deliberately cryptic and also allowing you to fill the gaps. I personally liked the workout.

>>22990795
>because the setting isn't stereotypically fantastical (i.e. medieval)
>work has to have knights and sheeeet to be considered fantasy

>>22990880
Even mathematics is based on axioms which are unprovable. If you have a belief, it's faith based.

>>22990887
Correct.

>>22990889
>If you have a belief, it's faith based.
Nonsensical statement.

>>22990887
We are talking about low vs high fantasy. The previous anon suggested that urban fantasy and fantasy comedies set in the present day are ipso facto low fantasy. I was positing that the spectrum of low-vs-high fantasy does not depend on raw setting nor the specific amount of magic immanent in the setting (this is ignoring SF as a subset of fantasy, which it definitively is).

I like how palworld has electric power, refrigerators, etc. based on creatures. It's more believable world building than 99% of fantasy settings. Especially shit like Arcanum that has an industrial revolution based on steam technology that is magically incompatible with magic because it... le is.

>>22990947
It's because magic is luciferic and technology is ahrimanic, by virtue of creating automata (including even simple mechanisms) which "do work" without human input, alienating the initial intention underlying them from their continued functioning. This builds up a morphic resonance field that produces frequencies in sync with Ahriman. Did you not pay attention to the plot at all?

>>22990971
>Did you not pay attention to the plot at all?
>drive-by shitposters from /v/ actually playing video games

>>22990924

>>22990971
>Builds a lever
>This KILLS the satan.

>>22990924
How is it nonsensical?

>>22990989
Claiming that belief in non religious matter (like mathematical axioms) is based on belief(faith)* in god/spritituality/religion is nonsense.

*I assume anon meant faith in religious context.

>>22979027
>mogs all modern fantasy by herself
You have read Robin Hobb books, right /lit/?

>>22991024
You are claiming belief in a non-physical transcendent truth
there is no empirical evidence of numbers, they're just shit humans make up in their heads to try to make sense of the physical world, there's no difference from believing in Odin and believing in the number One

>>22982235
Shadow Slave isn't chinese though, it's written by some ESL. The premise and the first arc are very good, after that it gets less good but it's still better than 99.5% of webnovels/lightnovels. The biggest flaw is that the author pumps out 2 (two) chapters A DAY so there's a lot of padding

>>22991052
Mathematics can be considered a part of transcendent truth. Axioms may not be provable but the mathematics based on those axioms have use in the real world. Belief in axioms is based on real observable proof that mathematics work.
Faith on the other hand is belief in religious doctrine, spirituality, sky daddy, none of these concepts have any real use in anything, no proof of any kind, these are made up things that are not part of trancendental truth, people simply convinced themselves of, lies and delusions.

>>22991106
>it's not faith when I do it because...because it's just not, ok!?!?!?
tell me faith is not useful the next time it stops someone from punching your face in for being an annoying little twerp

mathematician xianxia MC when

>>22990791
Donna being his boss got me.

>>22990726
>Low fantasy is usually urban fantasy
I have no idea why this has become a meme recently. That was never what low fantasy meant until around a year or two ago, and it's only used that way by people who seem unfamiliar with both low fantasy and urban fantasy.

>>22990736
Nope.

>>22991186
People have been arguing over the definitions of low and high fantasy forever. They're basically worthless.

>>22983019
>ching bong bing ding gu worm
My god.

Read Till We Have Faces by Lewis. Beautiful novel from cover to cover, hits very close to home in some parts.

>>22990874
Yeah. The idea of Siri becoming more human instead of walking chinese room at the end of Blindsight in context of Echopraxia activates more neurons. It is possible they mistook him for ayyyy just because of his character. But female voice is red flag.
>There are some questions I won’t be answering, beyond stating that they are meant to go unanswered (for now). Anybody wanting to know if Siri really underwent a sex-change operation out in the Oort, or if his dad is still alive at the end of Echopraxia, can save themselves the carpal.

Just read Ballard's short story The Smile. Probably one of the most uncanny stories I've come across.

>>22990142
so which one of these is the text from?

>>22990680
Any experience with Roger Lancelyn Green? His book seems to be another all-in-one.

>>22991489
Clergyman mental illness

>>22991489
Heaven's Laws: Monolith.

>>22991024
I am the anon and I didn't mean it in a religious context, but I find distinguishing between the two to be murky at best.

I am all but dissertation in Physics because I saw there was no bottom to the rabbit hole there either. Our houses are built on sand, brother, and if it isn't a deity's providence holding up the world it might as well be.

>>22991512
It's an extremely abridged version intended for consumption by children (i.e. under the age of 14)
You'll certainly get the main gist of Arthuriana from it but you're going to lose tons of nuance and lore

>>22991512
Did Fate do it better?

>>22991718
Oh I see. Alright you've given me some food for thought, thanks friend

any good fantasy books to read during my 14 hour goon sessions?

>>22983186
>>22983194
>>22983213
>>22984364
You could've just said no.

Just started The Judging Eye and I'm up to the scene where Nannaferi period-fucks the White Luck Warrior
Really fucking gross scene.

Pierce Brown is fucked in the head. I regret reading these books

>>22991869
whats the most fucked thing you read from him

>>22991633
In that case saying that belief is faith based is like saying belief is belief based, because faith is just another word for belief.

If it's not religious faith then it's faith based on proof. So belief is based on belief on proof, which is a redundant statement at best.

I have to read all of Cory Doctorow's stuff now. I just finished Homeland, and reading the afterword by Aaron Swartz and realizing he was dead a month before it came out put a mood on me. Did he get $Whacked?

>>22987647
Yeah! I randomly read The Story of the Champions of the Round Table, which is the second volume, I think, and I find Pyle's retellings more charming and just generally better than Andrew Lang's.

>>22985266
>What do people find so great about this book?
Midwits like Sanderson. There's nothing that stands out about his works except that it's verbose. His works gradually improve after The Way of Kings, but it's still long-winded slop.

>the worldbuilding is deep as a puddle
There's no real substance to the religion or customs in the series.

>>22991037
>Robin Hobb
I am reading her presently (Farseer Trilogy). Her capacity for writing layered, conflicted characters is pure kino.

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