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/Lit/, I decided you would be most capable to answer my question. I wrote this a little while ago:

"Embrace your passion for intellectual expansion, a passion that can be so readily instilled and seen the rewards of. Love exists outside the connection to another consciousness, and may for some time be substituted by an intrinsic and overwhelming desire to absorb the knowledge of the world."

Does anyone sometimes experience this? Do you feel empathetic to the last conjecture I make, in that you can substitute sexual and emotional desire with occasionally overwhelming passionate curiosity? Ultimately, I wonder if I with greater vigilance pursued academics than the mostly futile attempt for love, I will be a happier person in general. However, this is meant as a somewhat temporary state of mind. I have experienced some degree of love between two girls in my past, so I would like to think I am not completely ignorant in any aspect of this proposition.

All legitimate thoughts would be greatly appreciated, this is the first time I've sought external reflection to something I've written.

>> No.2293683

makes no sense

>> No.2293694

OP: I am quite positive it does make sense, it just may not make sense to you. Besides, you posted within seconds, hardly enough to even attempt to relate, let alone read the entire post.

>> No.2293699

>>2293694
It probably does make sense, but it's too boring to read past the first sentence.

>> No.2293706

http://www.amazon.com/Ethics-Penguin-Classics-Benedict-Spinoza/dp/0140435719/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&
qid=1325538036&sr=8-1

>> No.2293711

>>2293699
Fortunately, I did not post with the intent to entertain you.

>> No.2293712

>>2293711
Oh okay good, so I will just ignore this thread OP.

>> No.2293735
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I can relate OP. Mostly because I love to travel, unravel mystifications unknown to me and due to the fact that I felt more joyous while quenching my curiosity than sharing a bed with a "beloved" girl, I'm obligated to choose the first one.

This to say that life is too short not to chase what truly makes you blissful. But do not underestimate the power of negative emotions, since those are the ones that shape us...

Also, big words do not make you look smart, so use them only when absolutely necessary or otherwise you'll sound like a pompous pseudo-intellectual.

>> No.2293738

>>2293706
Thanks for the reference. I don't think I'll see a definite answer in reading up on his work, as the concern for a substitution of human connection appears absent. Though his ideas are much greater than my simple conjecture, and some aspect of Rationalism likely encompasses it.

>> No.2293747

You're looking at the world in black in white rather than in reds, blues and yellows.

Also, be careful with this statement: Love exists outside the connection to another consciousness. I believe I understand what you're trying to say by attributing love to the external, but you say it in such a way that makes it look independent rather than reliant.

>> No.2293751

>>2293735
not OP. are you suggesting that people who find more happiness reading a book that fucking a chick should read the book instead?

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>>2293747
How is love reliant?

>>2293751
Yes, you should read the book. Women can only hold a man together for as long as he keeps his interest alight. Speaking from personal expercience and there ARE however some cases in which 'love' can hold two people together for 65+ years. My great grandparents were together for 70 years and at their age they were still amazingly connected to eachother.

But I deviate, mainly saying that one should pursue what truly makes his move instead of settling for what he can get or what's being pushed down his throat.

>> No.2293760

>>2293757
him move*
Damn it all.

>> No.2293777

>>2293735
Thank you for the insight! My post comes out of context. I write to myself as complex as I feel in the moment, mostly because upon reflection I can more accurately re-invoke the feelings originally experienced. I've always used "big words", and have always hypnotized my peers by them. After a year or two of the attention I got over it. Now, I make efforts to avoid it. People who see past the facade of long syllable strains are usually more worthy of my time anyway. So thank you, but I understand the repercussions of over-stressing a vocabulary that isn't even that superb to begin with.

By the way, I really like that term, "pompous psuedo-intellectual". I may have to borrow that :)

>> No.2293829

>>2293747
Could you elaborate on what the "reds, blues and yellows" are? I infer you mean that the solution may not be one or the other, and is actually a more organic blend of ways in which to think.

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>>2293777
My words come from a familiar place, since I too did the same not so long ago. Since my timidity to show my work to others made me keep it to myself, I developed a love for complexity. Do not get me wrong, I like it, but not out of context as you so warmly said.
This will make me sound like Sweden, but words are like toys: children would rather play with something they can grasp rather than play with 3ft (1meter) abominations. With this I don't mean that we should stupidify the population, but merely educate it slowly.

And yes, I realize that I tend to deviate on my subjects, curse this self-diagnosed innominate condition!

Use away Anon, for once again I am Sweden in terms of neutrality.

>> No.2293957

>>2293757
how the fuck is reading a book more important that fucking a girl no matter how happy the first one makes you?

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>>2293957
Situations are as important as you consider them, the opinion of others being completely invalid here. I loved Spiderman when I was a young lad while my closest friends loved Batman. It didn't mean anything at the time to me and it doesn't mean anything now, since I always liked Spiderman more than Batman. Simple as that.

Now apply this to your every-day occurrences. Shape yourself "bro".

>> No.2293975

>>2293957
Speaking as a lonely closet gay boy, I'd rather find a nice longterm boyfriend than, say... become a published poet. But if I had a choice between, say, a one night stand and a thorough understanding of everything written by Samuel Beckett, it would be the Beckett. The reason being that understanding and appreciating literature is more enduring and meaningful than a one night stand. That's my take on the matter.

>> No.2293977

>>2293957
I'm getting that you're new to /lit/...

>>2293970
This anon speaks wors of wisdom.

>> No.2293998

i don't mean one night stands i mean fucking a chick you love

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>>2293998
It changes nothing. I do not get this whole "sacrifice" you have to make for love. No sir, you don't have to do anything, if love is mutual nothing will have to change.
But if something makes you happier than love, chase that something firmly, anything else becomes secundary.

I find that music and literature are immortal. You organize your priorities.

>> No.2294011

>>2293930
No worries, Sweden sounds like a pretty great country from what I hear.

Your analogy is quite accurate, and also explains why I enjoy so thoroughly to present some of my writing to adults. Namely my English teachers. Exclusively the good ones, because they recognize I put fourth greater effort in my writing than most, and respond genuinely. Backed by a degree in literature, those are the people I aspire to hear compliments from. Of course, even with a degree, he or she may not always be right.

Deviation is good! I don't mean in the moral, somewhat Transcendental sense, either. Often when I attempt to correlate thoughts that seem estranged to the topic, I end up creating little hypothesis to why my deviation is related. They happen rapidly and I almost never write them down, some appearing as simple analogies, while others could possibly be actual correlations. It's surprising how interconnected everything is. Or how it can appear to be, anyway.

Also, American Psycho was a wonderful movie.

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>>2294011
Swedish folks are quite xenial for what I hear.

While finding that relatable, I must comment that people with a degree in literature, authors and publishers are still humans. During my high school years I maintained a quite relaxed conversation with two authors and noticed a familiar trait between them: despite desiring respect for their work, both wish nothing but to be treated as an ordinary person.
Sure their opinion matters more than the one of the average Joe, but how you evaluate your work is the one relevant trait you should have in your pocket. This to say that there is a thin line between arrogance and confidence, which during my young years I crossed many times.
Recently, during one of my leisure voyages, I went to Portugal and had quite an interesting conversation with Artur Dagge, a man who recently published his first book. We shared a great deal of opinions and from the many folks I met who belong in the League of Literature (aformentioned authors, licensed men, etc), he was the one that impressed me the most for the simplicity of our conversation in the midst of the quite complex book of his.
Speaking of deviation, there I go again...my original purpose was to say that pride in your work is quite more important than the opinion of others, but I ended up here.

I heehaw'd because that is probably one of the traits about myself that I wish to make disappear the most and apparently you have it too. I think that if my every "want to write" thought was actually put on paper, I'd have quite few books in my hands. The worst part is that most of those thoughts end up vanishing never to cross my mind again. And quite a good portion of them are important. This calls for a beer good sir!

One of the few that outmatched the book in my opinion. Probably the only one to be honest. Maybe because I only read the book once?

>> No.2294115

I need more love than I'm getting, so I have to do something creative or I'll flip the fuck out.

Of course, that's not enough for me either so I'm miserable more often than not.

>> No.2294130
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>>2294115
Use your dark emotions Luke! Like I said, those are the one that shape a man, for he is under a great deal of heat!
Good is balance, with balance there is no evolution, because quoting the master Blake: "Without contraries, is no progression."

Negative emotions are contraries. Enjoy them between the intervals of joy.

>> No.2294167

i think you guys kinda went on the opposite way this thread was supposed to go lol

>> No.2294207

>>2294105
What is your occupation? A leisure trip to Portugal would be unheard of in my family. Desired of course, but unpractical.

The deepest wisdom is a product of experience, so I really appreciate the worldly knowledge. Even now when I look back at some of my writing that's only a few years old, I can see my opinion on the writing did not match the quality. Quite far beyond the line actually, as you said. Once I acknowledged I was not the only intelligent person on Earth I began to lose my arrogance. Not long after I also lost my intense cynicism. Now I embrace optimism. Interesting how significantly someone can change.

Might I suggest carrying a small journal? Or perhaps some form of documentation on an iPod, etc. It's a shame to hear so many ideas go to waste.
I'll even buy! Though you'll have to wait until 2017, when I meet the US legal drinking age. Hope you're patient.

>> No.2294239

I am in control when chasing intellectual tails, though when a woman plants herself beneath my wings is when I begin my slow descent to the dirt.

>> No.2294255

>>2294167
OP: Maybe so, but the content now is just as enriching, if not more.

>> No.2294264

>>2293998
>>2294010

What's with these fellas throwing around the word 'love' like a Vegas whore on christmas day?

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLICATED EVERYTHING IS?

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>>2294207
I'm a liar. I mean LAWYER. Also do small jobs as a journalist, but not because it's my passion, merely to pay for my beloved trips. I love to write, and the experience I amass now might help me in the future when I dedicate myself 100% to the written word. See, when I was younger my parents travelled a lot, so my only friends were books and music until we settled down for good. In retrospect, I consider that those years did nothing but wonders to me. Am still young though, so writing a book just to quench my publication thirst is foolish.

We can agree on that. I consider that a man who has lived on the streets for 30 years has a lot more to expose/discuss about life than your licensed physicist. Not diminishing the later, but I would rather have 1000 conversation with a hobo than 1 long talk with a physicist.
The only ones that can actually put together the same kind of experience are a good hand of writers. Afonso Cruz, another one of the portuguese fellows I had the pleasure to meet travelled the world during the golden years of his life doing the same thing I am doing at the moment: working to finance the dream. Good author, published 6 books and most of them were quite fascinating. Why am I only mentioning portuguese authors? But I wander once more.
This to reach my original point, that experience is indeed an important factor while judging others in a non-judgemental way. Some will get this one...

Not a bad idea, in fact, starting tomorrow I will carry one with me at all times. During the Summer of '07 I did so and may I say that around 60 good poems came from that decision. This is why I say that you can learn something from everybody out there.

Take a trip to the Great Britain, no legal drinking age here! Ha! But indeed alcohol has been a good friend of humanity.

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>>2294264
I have quite some experience with love good sir...not so complicated if you have yourself figured out, which is qutie a task.

>> No.2294350

>>2294313
I doubt that someone with experience would talk in such a sloppy way about love dude.

>> No.2294366

>>2294313

it is qutie the task indeed. Indeed.

Well then tell me this, how can one find oneself without perceiving oneself through a falsely projected 3rd perspective using your own personal notions of 'self' and all the words you can use to describe anything in a squalid attempt to perhaps CONSTRUCT a perception of self?

and then the question would be whether others share the same perception of you, if each person subjected to a different 'reality' of you, whether it even matters and if not can we really all live in a conglomerate of falsities. Can we be so ignorant?

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>>2294366
See
>>2293970
That oughta speak for me in a moment when I don't wish to.

>> No.2294397

>>2294377

>>2293970


But I fucking hate pikachu.

>> No.2294403

>>2294366

I personally think that we should all be faceless molluscs that communicate through music

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>>2294397
Me too. But that reaction of his was priceless.

Yet not ignorant, we must all give in to ourselves and follow what makes our legs move...that is the key to knowing one self and the key to knowing how will you react under the pressure of love, thus knowing how important it is in your life. KNOWING SHIT, you know?

>> No.2294422

>>2294301
You've hit on another issue in my life, an occupation. It's currently the most vexing question I can ask myself, as so much time will be either endured or enjoyed in it. Do you have any regrets in this respect? Would you rather have, say, become an English professor? (Or some similar alteration.) I wish to pursue my passion, of which is becoming increasingly uncertain as I age. Though, to harness the potential experience of the world, you have to have money. I have little desire for material wealth. Which is a very fundamental philosophy. It has even appeared in studies, that people of opposite wealth and class have equally happy lives. Anyway, the most preferable route would be to make a significant amount of money in my passion. This gives me the idea to make a list and cross-reference both of those variables. It will likely bring about an inconclusive result..

I agree, and by this belief I tend to value unorthodox information sources that know because they have lived it, not because they read it in a text book.

Always honored to invoke something positive into someone else's life! 60 GOOD poems? You're a machine.

I would like to some day visit a series of European countries, hopefully more than once. I'll find you on /lit/ several decades from now when I go, haha.

>> No.2294437

>>2294409

I feel as if my independence is taken away as soon as I fool for love (Yes, only fools fool for love) My anxieties and thoughts are thrown into overdrive as I become a victim to time, to plans, to lust. I become self crippling in thought. Become a person that is not me, and that notion is not based on what I hold as some IDEA of 'me' but rather based on a comparison of the intuitive feelings based in memory of past times spent happier.

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>>2294422
I have a little theory, which dictates that a man who worries less will end up doing more. People who eventually slide are more likely to end up in a place they like and die joyous. This to say that my current professional fish hook is a mean for me to dedicate myself fully to my 'dreams'. Would I like another profession? Perhaps (funny you should say) a teaching career would be more suitable since that thought crossed my mind during my teen years. But regrets? I have none. Perhaps I should have studied even more, but that doesn't haunt me. I enjoyed squandering that time, thus it was not wasted. This coming from a wise man.
Dreams, ruefully with the passage of time, go away along with the apparently permanent joy. What was clear as water yesterday, is dark and indiscernible today. I sorely desired to be a paleontologist, a teacher, an arquitect, etc...my dreams were quite defined. Afterwards I realized that I detest math, which pushed me away from arquitecture. The love for dinosaurs faded away with age and teaching became a part-time activity that I practice on friends and people I casually encounter. Your situation will get worse until you realize that you have one goal left in life. And that is quite a reason to live. Am not saying that you should drop anything to follow that dream. If not, take a look at what Dave Grohl has been doing over the years. Merely slide towards it.
Something tells me that you are going to enjoy the ride...of material possessions don't pull you down (they certainly didn't pul me down) and you find a way to expand your knowledge, everything will work out. Also, avoid the list in my solemn opinion it will only complicate the situation you are in...take some time, go to the country road for a weekend, smoke some pot if you reached that age...and when you come back to civilization you'll realize wht you want to do to escape from it.

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>>2294422
Continued.

Unorthodox men shaped history as we know it...they are quite a good pit of knowledge and I would advise never to let go of a chance to exchange words with one.

I am certain that this will have a major effect in the future. But I am no machine, back then my writing style was quite similar with the one of Bob Dylan. Careless, easy-go, flowing with ease...perfectionism never held hand with my pen. Nowadays, sad to say, I have a writing style resemblant to Leonard Cohen's. Quite perfectionist, a bit methodic and more elaborated. Yesterday's 10 poems have become only 1 today.

You will like Europe, it's not as bad as the ongoing wars on the Random board depict it. After all, civilization was born here...not to say that uncivilized places are bad, since south America has much to offer despite most of its people.

This thread will live tomorrow good Anon, so I will schedule my next response to then. For now I must take a nap before going to work. Recently I escaped the fearsome grasp of insomnia, trying to avoid destroying that progress.

Have a good one mate, may the meaningless words give meaning to your path.

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>>2294437
Well of course independence is taken away. You are putting your happiness in the hands of another person, even knowing the consequences of such dreadful action. But the reward is usually good if you choose the right gal.
Consider depriving yourself of that kind of thought for a while. I always advise time away from society so you can see what it is not having to obey its rules. When you come back, that kind of issue (being thrown in a pool within your mind that drowns your true personality) will not occur anymore.
Let go. Let go of everything, do not over-analyze and don't give thought to what doesn't matter. Even the things that matter will haunt you if you give them more importance than the one they truly deserve.
All this to say, relax. Control yourself, it's not as difficult as shrinks who recommend pills say. Start every conversation with a literal "I don't give a fuck" printed on your very brain. Everything will solve itself afterwards.

Am leaving now as I said before. Have a good one sir!

>> No.2294678

Yes sure, but it last until you hit a strong wall in your intelenctual pursuit and wont really be able to find any way to overcome it at that moment. At times like that you will start looking arround for ideas and such and naturaly come to love, start remembering it, start feeling it and sink in it. Used to face many walls myself, but would still take them down in the end, love never stopped me, because no matter how much I want it , love cant happen to me at the moment, I have no option to sink. Though I think even if you would sink in the love, you could come out of it if you somewhat succeeded with it , got a relationship going and such and your partner would encourage you to come back to your previous work and tackle your old left foe

>> No.2294698

I know the questions are endless, but what happens when you find all the answers you were looking for? At the time you'll want something more meaningful OP

>> No.2294704

>>2294553

Having a girl fills my social time with sub par social interaction and a subdued version of myself. I was happy and contented a single lad with a swagger dick, but let it slip. I even prophesied this in the form of a journal back in april:


"Sober sex. Sober sex after numerous drunken encounters. Hand caressing?!?!

I don’t know what to think of this. Is this turning from drunken, raw passionate sex to romantic stroking?

I like to think this as fun between friends. Maybe i was kidding myself as to where this would end, surely it’s not possibly to have a close friend with which you’re constantly fucking and not have it turn into some sort of mess somewhere along the line.

Well, you know what you must do. It’s a shame but you need to break off the lays before it gets complex and risks the friendship we currently hold.

I’m not saying never you know because she’s a really great woman. Funny, clever, attractive and we seem to like the same stuff. It’s just right now i need to be self focused. I get lazy. I know what would happen. I would start smoking shit loads of pot and become the laziest shit on earth whilst deluding myself that I was on the way to becoming successful. Or maybe i would start smoking shit loads of pot and become ultimately inspired? Maybe i could finally find some peace."

Suffice to say, I seem to have gone the course of the former...A lazy anxious pothead recluse.

maybe it's just a paradigm of angst that I like to wrap around any given situation, giving rise to self fulfilling prophecies...who knows?

Thanks for the words though. Thoughts are great when they're great and bad when they're bad, the problem I guess being how far do you go to fight your own thoughts before you finally lose the plot?

>> No.2294708

>>2294698

>I know the questions are endless, but what happens when you find all the answers you were looking for?

I've run into this, or at least grown content with my ability to see just how limited and retarded I am.

>At the time you'll want something more meaningful OP

This didn't bother me, as I could always find a subject to pursue to add meaning to my life. Instead my conclusions as stated above lead me to the desire to create. Even if my abstractions are in vain it seems as though this is our function as defined by our individuality.

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>>2294704

>Part of your comment isn't allowed to be posted :(

I don't understand, picture related in any case.

>> No.2294730

First you call it knowledge, then you say its love, another passion, the only passion, the only meaning, until finally an addiction. Philosophy can be practiced like an opiate. You're approaching it like a junkie and writing as if you're high.

>> No.2294748

>>2294719

I'm not sure anymore, I've been through the whole 'give up things i like' stage and didn't end up any better, no mood improvement and I slip back to my ways mainly because i rationalise with myself so damn well, say 'well, those things aren't THAT bad for you, 3 bottles of wine is pretty STANDARD, yeah go on buy some pot what else are you going to spend your money? Ah I don't to live till I'm 90 anyway' etc.

The one thought to always fall back on if you really feel like a fuck up:

'everything is pointless and there is no meaning to life'

How can you fail if there's no meaning? Huh?!

Good luck though...I would suggest changing your pattern of actions in life blah de blah stop wanking and channing blah de blah I'm no good at this.

In seriousness though, you sound like me in that you sit and wait for exciting things to happen to you. Why aren't they happening anon? We should get up and make them happen but it's so much easier and vivid and less imposing to just THINK about these amazing things you could do, isn't it?

>> No.2294765

>>2294748

>it's so much easier and vivid and less imposing to just THINK about these amazing things you could do, isn't it?

Exactly. It costs a lot less energy to fantasize than actualize. This is why I've been lamenting over the idea of dropping everything and putting myself in a corner, forcing myself to do something of quality.

While I marvel in the beauty of knowledge I see a limit in the vastness of it all. The multiple universes there might be. The expansion of our universe which will inevitably leave us in destitution on a cosmic scale. I see the need to find the value in the billions of components that comprise me, and see my ego wither in the face of the billions that surround me.

I always seem to get caught up in angst ridden thoughts best left for adolescence.

>> No.2294805

>>2294765

IT'S LIKE BRAIN MASTURBATION AMIRIGHT?

>> No.2294816

>>2294805

Mental masturbation sounds better, but yes.

>> No.2294825

>>2294805

Like masturbating your brain until it's red raw and bleeding.

>>2294765

Hey man I like your style. i definitely feel we have similar brains or something...it's probably the ganj and isolation, the endless well of information that is the internet, the multi-tasking, the overwhelming pressure to contribute to society whilst kissing ass and at the same time acting like we give a shit about all the fucking menial things in life because that is all we can do because that is what we have been reduced to.

We have been given a meaning in life, presented to us in the form of a house and hot water, and a bed. It is to serve the person above you until you die. I think my mind revolts at this thought, at humanity's lack of focus on the more important things.

>> No.2294938

>>2294531
OP: I speak for the means of my comprehension by saying that much of what you speak of, illuminating the justification for choices that are questionably regrettable, hope & dreams, and the passage of time as a component of change, are or were frequent topics in my writing and thoughts. In a similar fashion I justify the procrastination of homework with the inquisition of things of much greater personal value than the homework. If I stay up watching philosophical videos on youtube that are enlightening, I have no problem not sleeping that school night. Not to say I shouldn't be actively trying to repair my incredibly fucked up sleep cycle, but that is another matter. I just tell people I'm nocturnal.

That is another idea I've been touching on lately. Just because I have a talent for, or thoroughly enjoy something, does not mean it has to be my profession. My most studied topic of late, and on my own time, has been the constituents of the universe. The near infinitely minuscule particles that compose all matter and how they behave in the incomprehensible expanse of universe. It's fantastic how completely unimportant everyday matters become in the shadow of the cosmos. How I described its transcendence in the first line of a very simple poem:
"One look to Nyx’s sky reveals thy virgin eyes,".
Despite my appreciation, this type of science does not have to be the focal point of my life.

>> No.2294946

>>2294531
Continued, still OP.
Now that I've reflected a bit, I better understand your theory. I mostly concur. If you spend time in an occupation, and learn and experience in that time, you may have either a massively or only slight change of preference to where you wish to be working, until with time your open mind and natural ease brings you to a lifestyle that makes you sublimely happy. The only concern I feel when pondering this is the reality of it. My first occupation would have to be a serious money maker, if I wish to fuel the rest of my passions. After much schooling and money I would likely have to spend sufficient time in the occupation to acquire a high paying salary. By then I could start a family, be tied down in one location, or my perception could change and I would no longer seek such a lifestyle. To effectively live this way I feel that the sliding lifestyle would have to be an intrinsic characteristic of mine. In certain ways it already is, though this topic deserves more than another day of thought to ponder. I might have to light up this weekend and see if cannabis can help sort my thoughts. I have clocked a great number of hours thinking critically today, my mind is tired.

I understand if you wish to uphold the title of anon, though in the interest of future conjectures I may stumble across, you can contact me at my old email, seanqw3@aol.com. From there I would direct you to my current email. I feel it would be advantageous for me to add a contact in my life of such evident reliability and wisdom. I promise I'll only be slightly annoying.

>> No.2294979

>>2294946
>After much schooling and money I would likely have to spend sufficient time in the occupation to acquire a high paying salary. By then I could start a family, be tied down in one location, or my perception could change and I would no longer seek such a lifestyle.

This is my fear. The monotonous life of humble work can easily breed stagnation. Thoughts of what I might turn out to be in the passing of time makes me wander in my head with fantasy.

Who is to say material freedom would spawn quality?

>> No.2294990

>>2294979

focus more on what you say than how you say it.

>> No.2295006

>>2294990

>focus more on what you say than how you say it.

I take special care to remove unnecessary fluff from my post, and the words are arranged in such a way to get across the symbols I chose. I'm interested now that you've said this. Would you mind rewording that post in your own words to what you think I'm trying to get across?

>> No.2295232

>>2295006
OP: He's right by saying the value of what you say is more important than by which method. A wise man once told me that too many unnatural large syllable words in the wrong context of conversation will make you sound like a "pompous psuedo-intellectual". While this is absolutely true, if you wish to flex your writing muscles don't let anyone stop you, practice is what makes you better.

My advice would be to think about how you phrase your sentences. Often you can turn a sentence around or completely rework it to use fewer words, and so it sounds better. Also, focus on what you're getting across. You begin saying that the idea instills fear in you. So when you say, "Thoughts of what I might turn out to be in the passing of time makes me wander in my head with fantasy." I feel disconnected when I read this. Wandering in fantasy is by no means an exclusively fearful action. Perhaps: "My mind roams an abyss of possibilities served to me by the fate of time". By no means is this as good as this sentence could be. It has ages to go until it reaches god-tier. There are thousands of alterations that could be made to it to make it more relevant, aesthetic, succinct, and sophisticated. If you wish to word something with larger more specific words to give it more meaning in casual communication, just make sure you word it so people know you're replying, not writing poetry, haha. What you decide to put in it is what make it your sentence, of course.

Excuse me if it sounds like I'm talking down to you, I am ignorant of your knowledge so it's best to cover my bases.

>> No.2295549

>>2295006

>Would you mind rewording that post in your own words

>This is my scare. The boring life of easy work can easily breed boredom. Thoughts of what I might turn out to be in the future fill my head with thought.

>> No.2295639

>>2295549
OP: You need to fix your second sentence. Your replacement of words entirely changes the meaning of the sentence, and thus the idea. In the original post I could still see the intent of the sentence, where if I were to look at your sentence by itself I would probably think you're rambling about something unimportant.

>> No.2295734

>>2293681

this is downright overwrought.
downright overwrought.
hmm.
i like that combo.
anyways this is overwrought. what you're saying has been said a thousand times starting with plato nd aristotle: happiness comes from a balanced life and/or a life that strives to know itself.

can you substitute interpersonal love with curiosity to explore the world? this seems to be a quasi-defense of those kids that take a couple years off between college and "settling down" to explore the world and "find themselves." certainly, and wide-eyed curiosity is always healthy; one does not need to "substitute" if you're actually doing it properly.

>> No.2296060

>>2295639

Sorry, I was under the impression that I was lightly mocking you, not taking an english test.

The truth is I hate your faggoty way of writing, it's jarring and awkward, pretentious in making simple ideas have the appearance of complexity when in fact they are mundane and boring, you seem to edit your work to the point where it loses any fluidity that it might otherwise have.

>> No.2296266

I too fear that the dredge of life will cast aside my squalid efforts at achieving a sub primo in the status quo of a mediocre society. The future often beckons thought as angst envelopes my dissatisfaction with the present and slings it forward, asking how can I possibly fit into it this perfectly greased and pre conceived machine of utter despair and drudgery.

Who’s to say that I should buy into this skewered image of burnt out capitalism, for perhaps my juvenile disgruntlement with the system is born from the fact that I very much am not a part of said system so instead i choose to revolt, scorning anybody who understands capitalism and uses it to their whole advantage? Perhaps once my spotty arse finds a place in this system and I find things and people that I will like to spend my money on, it won’t seem like such a bad place?

>> No.2296284

>>2296266

You might want to learn what the word capitalism means before using it in a sentence.

>> No.2296297

>>2296266

> "Check it guys, I spunk words like a tramp with drip-dick."

>> No.2296300

>>2296297

May truncheons of midnight blue come down upon you for thee dire squire's words doth crash upon my verbal heart as a lemming squirts his minds upon thy dashed floor!

CURSE THEE RORSON!

>> No.2296307

>>2296300

I was a little confused by what you said, so I ran it through Google Translate using the "Hemingway" setting.

"Go to hell."

Well, fuck you too, buddy.

>> No.2296650

>>2296284

I was satirising another post in the thread. Probably should have said. Oh my
check out the rhymes that I shed
it's the steam i can take in the dream i'm awake
and it seems i detesting the weed that i take that dressing my thoughts make them messing i'm tressing been teaching the lessoning been preaching took dressing on the march to a soundbite garden of illuminating joy throwing forth to a new enlightened sun of a good new year.

>> No.2296711

>>2296060
OP: Then I guess that was a remarkably futile attempt. It really had no direction than to the post you replied to, which certainly wasn't mine.

If this is your attempt to present a valid opinion then you have a long way to go. Instead of respectfully illuminating something in my writing you disagree with, you choose to adopt a response that is no more mature or valuable than any one post on /b/. Do some of you really look up to that shithole?

I'm not sure where you derive so much knowledge of "my writing". You may have read the two sentences in the original post, but you certainly didn't read any further, where I explain the context of what I write and why it's written that way. I didn't write it to entertain you, and it's not supposed to be exciting, as I've said. I sought inquisitive reflection to solely ponder this idea.

>>2295734
How overwrought something may be is to some degree subjective. So thanks for your opinion. I understand this balance, and ultimately it will be brought on whether sought for or not. Just because something is not the practical solution does not make it a wasted venture to explore.

>> No.2296787

>>2296711

Well then I ask you to excuse me good sir, for I was under the impression that the man whom I was gently mocking was slowly acquiring the intelligence of a monkey by attempting to lecture me upon my writing when I was merely mocking him in satire. Isn't it mad!

You are mistaken, good sir, for I have not even gazed my eyes upon your scribings, though I very much enjoyed the quote in the original post, If that was yours OP then I very much admire you as a man. it seems as if we are both victims of a terrible mishap, a clashing of confused vibes exploding in a mist of anger. Do forgive me, good sir.

>> No.2296878

>>2296787
Ah, now I see. Such confusion is really inevitable when the inception of every post is wrought by one of the Anon.
It's actually much more sensible for you to NOT have been such an unreasonable hard ass.
To avoid confusion: I am OP.

>> No.2297034

>>2293970
>Situations are as important as you consider them
This guy has a point. Damn.