/lit/ - Literature

>>22931837
Literally just Being and Time, simply for how bad Heidegger’s take on the history of philosophy is.

>>22931837

>>22931837
I haven't read it but apparently there's a book called The Brigade by Harold A. Covington, which is supposedly a much better book similar to the themes of Turner Diaries.

>>22931862
>Storm of Steel
>Fiction
?

Anything by Julius Evola or related authors (Guenon, Savitri Devi, Codreanu, etc.).

>>22931837
Mannheim swine detected

>>22931837
I also started Mein Kampf and was disappointed. I was hoping for an articulate defense of fascism, but all I got was a whiny rant about racial grievances.

>>22931901
I was in the original thread of the guy who made that chart, it was way back when you'd literally get banned for posting any right-wing lit or philosophy on /lit/ (not joking). Around 2012 or 2013 I think. The OP was categorizing things by author and then including representative works based on others' recommendations. People often complain about the image, usually because they're total retards and don't realize Thomas Mann wrote very right-wing things prior to 1920, but the guy who made it was a trailblazer.

>>22931961
The one thing I can say about Defiance is that it completely soured me on ideology.

>>22931961
This. Stick to real historical authors and stay away from weirdo faggot satanists and metalheads.

>>22931990
Let's keep it on the topic of literature and leave all the /pol/ shit at the door

>>22931837
>I thought Mein Kampf was tedious and poorly written.

You have said the meme words. I struggle to believe you, but i shall recommend a New Nobility.

>>22932134
It‘s the translation of Mein Kampf that gave the book its meme word reputation in the anglosphere you polwhining mongoloid

I just want to learn how to play the O9A star game, bros. Why can't some ex member leak a guide?

>>22932242
All the rules are in the publicly available 09A literature, you mong.

>>22931837
>Turner Diaries was a little more interesting but still not great compared to similar speculative near-future science fiction.
name them. i want more comfy td like books

>>22932441
Polar opposite end of the political spectrum but The Handmaid's Tale has a very similar vibe to The Turner Diaries.

Don't write it off because the recent TV series was peak TDS garbage. The original book is a lot less preachy and its version of Offred/June is a lot more cynical, actually has agency and is much less of a stereotypical YAS QWEEN Mary Sue than the Elizabeth Moss version in the TV show.

It was written around the same time as TD so it was influenced by a lot of the same political and social goings on but in the opposite way.

>>22932553
I think I liked all the planning and then aftermath of the result type of writing in TD. Hunter had it too. Where he'd plant a bomb or kill someone and then later the FBI guy would fill him in on all the consequences. Ever come across any like that? I'll try Handmaid's Tale, thanks.

>>22931837
>Futurisms, Vorticism
>Right Hegelians

Martinet Press was run by a fed narc, publishing sex offender drug addict fly entrapment ring doggerel, quelle surprise. If you want Nietzsche, Heidegger, hermeticism, arab astral magic treatises, just go to the source and run marathons.

>>22932562
Hmmm...In that way "Memoirs of an Italian Terrorist" by Giorgio might be what you're looking for.

It's the memoirs of an anonymous(and admittedly kinda smalltime) Italian Red Brigades operative during the Years of Lead from the 60s through the 80s where Italy was having its own almost-but-not-quite civil war between militant left-wing and right-wing groups.

It's basically "Here's how doing Turner Diaries type shit actually plays out IRL" and shows that it's a lot more mundane and a lot less glamorous than TD makes it out to be in reality.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/986614.Memoirs_of_an_Italian_Terrorist

>>22931961
I am not a fascist but For My Legionaries was great.

>>22932242
ron, triple man gan dora tsumo richi!

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>>22933083
>every other VTuber does endless shitty mahjong streams
>no EsoFasc chuuba to do a Star Game stream
I'm still holding out hope that someone will go mask off and reveal that their entire VTuber career was just an O9A Insight Role. Any bets on who?

>>22932577
Yes, ToB and Martinet Press were Fed honeypots but a lot of your post is factually incorrect.

Nietzche explicitly disavowed both anti-Semitism and Nazi ideology repeatedly in his works and viewed is as an expression of the highest level of weakness. It was his sister who appropriated his works to serve Nazi ideals after his death.

Heidegger actually was down with the 14/88 crew talkin about killin' Jew-Jews.

Can you recommend some good, credible sources to start looking into for the hermeticism and Arab astral magic treatises? So much of what's out there for occult works is either Tumblr witch revisionist BS or asspull hodgepodge BS ala the IRL version of the Necronomicon.

>>22933128
>Nietzche explicitly disavowed both anti-Semitism and Nazi ideology repeatedly in his works and viewed is as an expression of the highest level of weakness.
Yes. Because he believed that we should be able to resist the temptations brought about by the Jews. I don't think you realize what he was actually saying. This is normal, there is apparently a leftist nietzschean perspective. That's the thing about both\and logic, it doesn't have to make sense.
>It was his sister who appropriated his works to serve Nazi ideals after his death.
You mean where she took his actual work, that he wrote, and she released it. But it's not actually Nietzsche because reasons like it contradicts the narrative we've tried to build around him. Right.
>Heidegger actually was down with the 14/88 crew talkin about killin' Jew-Jews.
Yep. He was an actual national socialist.
>hermeticism
Corpus Hermeticum, of course. Evola's The Hermetic Tradition has some commentary on that. So does Evola's Grail, technically.

>>22933186
>Yes. Because he believed that we should be able to resist the temptations brought about by the Jews. I don't think you realize what he was actually saying. This is normal, there is apparently a leftist nietzschean perspective. That's the thing about both\and logic, it doesn't have to make sense.
I'm not that anon but this is a really severe misreading of Nietzsche. I've recently been reading the sections from the genealogy that focus on Jews and it kinda elucidates the problem is with the priest class and what that produces. In the second essay, he explicitly explains in section 11 that the anti-semitism he is referring to is the same as anarchism in the sense that it is the product of resentment. Your idiotic post makes it seem like we aren't meant to fall to the "temptations of the jews" but its not about jews at all but rather its about breaking the cycle of justice that parades itself as morality. This is why Nietzsche begins the genealogy by focusing on the priest class being the origin of this problem, as its not an ethnic issue, but rather a reality of what Nietzsche is really talking about, which is European religion, which Judaism is a part of.


This isn't to say he is working against racism or whatever, just that the whole anti-jew thing isn't present in his work. In the genealogy, Nietzsche recognizes how Africa was incapable of really producing a sophisticated form of justice because everything is relational to your tribe. The people rely on corporal punishment. When Nietzsche refers to actual anti-European ethnic and cultural values he uses the term "mandarin" in the Oxford English translation to refer to the outside Chinese forces which he identifies with being incompatible with European history. This is where his Hegel influencing is showing.

>>22931837
You read the jew'd version of Mein Kampf. Get a better version in you, then come back and say how tedious it was

>>22932013
>tell us you haven't read it without telling us you haven't read it

>>22933128
>disavowed an Ideology rhat would come 19 years after his death
>went insane later in life and had a "turn around" about the jews
Nice try

Sorels Meditations on Violence and The works of Italian Futurism

>>22932221
Meme word reputation? NTA, what are you referring to?

>>22933280
>we aren't meant to fall to the "temptations of the jews"
>breaking the cycle of justice that parades itself as morality
You don't see the connection between these two things? You mentioned them here so I'll just point at it.
>...which is European religion...
Christian morality was brought to europeans by the Jews. This slave mentality is heavily strengthened by Christianity being brought to the european peoples. That's not to say that which makes up slave mentality didn't exist prior, it just wasn't the central condition of the average european male. Christianity made it a central point.
The historic element is important for understanding why one interpretation of what Nietzsche was talking about was inherently anti-jewish. If we looked at him from a presentivist lens, we'd see him as anti-semitic. However, I would never want to do that because that is dishonest. Back when he was alive, he wouldn't have been considered anti-semitic and so I do not consider him anti-semitic.

>>22933128
>Nietzche explicitly disavowed both anti-Semitism and Nazi ideology repeatedly in his works and viewed is as an expression of the highest level of weakness. It was his sister who appropriated his works to serve Nazi ideals after his death.

Because the author said one thing, it does not preclude anti-semetic interpretation of much of his work.

>Go beyond good and evil
>Struggle and overbecoming will be your hallmarks
>Forge a new moral system and virtues
>No not like that

>>22933487
Lefties, jews and others who have never read the book tell everybody Mein Kampf is badly written and a rambling mess. They do this to discourage people from reading it.

It is neither of these things. It is a straight forward read that states in unambiguous terms why Hitler thought the way he does, what he wants to do if he obtains power and why he wants to do it. It is a very sympathetic book and highlights the love he had for Germany not the hate he has for jews.

This love/protection for ones own is the basis for all White/Western/European idpol

Black/brown idpol is based on hate/jealousy of the other.

>>22934691
How do you explain white urban fetishization of immigrants through by the idea of love/protection of one's own? In fact, most white/western/european idpol I see is actively harmful and destabilizing to their "own", sometimes explicitly so.

>>22934850
I fucked up this post by rewriting parts of sentences while drunk, but I think it's legible

>>22931837
KD Rebel by David Lane is fun read about a breakaway colony of whites kidnapping war brides from a near future USA. It's a short, campy power fantasy with some tits n ass.
I'm surprised it never shows up on lists and is hardly ever mentioned in threads like this. This type of writing seems more palatable to normalfags and we should have more NatSoc propaganda like it.

>>22934850
Constant exposure to modern media which pushes multiculturalism. It is difficult to put the genie back in the bottle once you realize everything from youtube commercials to the hit tv show is mixed ethnic groups.

Subversion has always existed, but it must get increasingly more pervasive. Any movement skyrockets to power once women begin to join, that is all one side needs to do.

>>22931837
breiviks manifesto was mostly very good
towards the end it is kind of unfinished unpolished

>>22935618
Does it have a special name and where can one find it?

>>22935669
internet search
do you know what that is?
http://www.google.com/search?q=breivik+manifesto+pdf
its everywhere and commentary too

>>22931837
>I thought Mein Kampf was tedious and poorly written
which translation was it?

>>22935675
actually its not I only found 1 link
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/documentos/2011/07/27/manifiesto.pdf

the shelf of WN fiction is rather slim but Covington's Northwest novels are actually really good
you can find them for free online in quite a few places. picrel is the recommended reading order
but I personally flipped Freedoms Sons and read Ravens last.. worked pretty well as an ending to the series even though it was written first

>>22934850
If you’ve ever known people like that you’d know the source of their fetishization is on one hand just social-professional signaling to advance themselves and on the other hand sterile worship of their exotic brown friends with university degrees that are dumb but highly socialized just like they are. The masses of uneducated immigrants, they never even come into contact with at any point in their lives. That’s for middle Americans and Proles.

>>22932018
>it was way back when you'd literally get banned for posting any right-wing lit or philosophy on /lit/
vgh.. retvrn 2 tradition

>>22931837
>nazi/fascist books
>worth reading
pick one

>>22935794
>>22936244
thanks for the bumps

>>22931961
Only Codreanu on that list isn't a pseud or a grifter.
It's depressing how much of 4chan actually takes Guenon and Evola seriously.

>>22935698
Doesn't necessarily have to be fiction or WN.

I'm looking more for stuff that shows and/or explains more contemporary (ie. from the genesis of fascism as an idea onwards) far-right ideologies in a way that isn't either unbearably boring or so insular that it's incomprehensible to someone who's not already a thoroughly indoctrinated believer.

>>22931837
Spengler wasn't a nazi but you might like Decline of the West or Prussianism and Socialism.

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>>22936440
I've heard good things about Spengler, will definitely check it out.

I'm looking more for things written firsthand by the people who were actually involved with the far-right ideologies either as a leader, inventor or follower arguing their case for or explaining their particular ideology or movement rather than larger scope secondary outside analysis like Spengler though.

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>>22936644
Degrelle would be a good start. If you read German, Armin Mohler's Nasenring maybe. Maurice Bardeche is another big one.
https://counter-currents.com/2021/10/remembering-maurice-bardeche-11/

>>22936648
Better to read the original (H.S. Chamberlain) than the knockoff.

>>22935698
The picture order is your recommended one?

>>22936646
I know, he's amazing, but the rest are reactionary pseud bait for people that don't care truly about their fellow man, but instead want bias confirmation.

>>22935743
I do know people like that. I grew up in middle class Stockholm suburbs. I'd agree that it's signalling and that they only make friends with deracinated browns. Still, this is idpol against the ingroup, yeah?

>>22934900
So your idea is that it simply is pushed so hard it can contradict natural tendencies of idpol? Fair.

>>22931837
>Iron Gates
The FBI accidentally outed the owner of the publisher, Martinet Press, as a federal informant lmao
as for Turner Diaries, idk what's with Pierce, he has this very obnoxious practice of underlining a bunch of text and abusing exclamation marks, you can see it in Hunter as well

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>>22936691
Truly a great man, who himself was in awe of men he thought greater than himself.

>>22935743
This. Every white person has been taught their entire life that being racist makes you evil and the way to advance in life is to prove how gay and pro-brown you are. Additionally, the most zealous, self-hating white people are usually privileged children of the elite who have never interacted with non-whites in their life.

>>22937456
>The most zealous, self-hating white people
Most, especially many of the most published and 'academic' them retreat behind the banner of bring jewish.

>>22936267
Where should i start with Codreanu?

Arthur de Gobineau is the only unbiased writer who will convince you of racism, but not in a good way. As he said himself, there's nothing left of the white race but pockets in England and in Belgium and it's the truth, few people stand any serious test of whiteness, socially or physiognomically. Far from resembling a huge people that inhabits all of Europe, perhaps potentially endangered by a few immigrants, they are a critically endangered species reduced to atomically small and isolated populations. Everyone else is mutts of questionable origins.

>>22931901
>ernst junger
>fascist

>>22937481
For My Legionaires is his autobiography and is easily read. Id recommend it as it fully explains the who, what and why of the Legionary State.

>>22937532
He was by modern definitions.
>Anti-liberal
>Elitist/Aristocratic/exclusionary
>Anti-Democracy
>Anti-Egalitarian
>Militaristic

Because he disapproved of aspects of the German expression of Fascism does not mean he was an avowed enemy of Authoritarian world-views.

>>22937435
Yeah I knew that about Martinet Press going in.

I was still curious if Iron Gates and Bluebird were as bad as they were made out to be.

I guess Bluebird really was that bad since it's no longer in print or sold anywhere online.

Iron Gates was surprisingly not turbo-racist like I thought it would be. I could see the premise and worldbuilding being something actually cool in the hands of a better writer who isn't so fixated on just being as edgy and explicit as possible.

>>22933128
>nietzsche disavowed an ideology that was created after he died
>nietzsche didn't like the equivalent of blrumpfters, therefore he actually loved jews, chud ;)
You have a youtube understanding of Nietzsche

>>22937577
>caring about the definitions of others about your ideology

Damn guess that since im a communitst i must read the 1613 project after all some canadian crackhead said that it is the founding stone of neomarxism or whatever

>>22931837
For my Legionaries is both comfy and a great read, it's a genuine tragedy that Codreanu died as young as he did.

>>22938546
Definitions are important when discussinf abstractions.

>>22938569
Every scrap i have read of him suggests he was one of mankinds best. In thought, deed and action. A man of his people if ever there was one.

>>22938579
>Definitions are important when discussinf abstractions.
Unfortunately, these "people" don't care about that. They will use whatever caricature that they were told about and not think about it. They can't. Marxists have no counterpoints to the third positionist worldview. Definitions weigh them down, so they rely heavily on contradiction. That's why it's best to not engage with them unless it's the public area where you know the silent majority will see the conversation and come to their own conclusions.

>>22931890
>havent read
>supposedly
stop posting

>>22937577
modern definitions are retarded

I liked William Gayley Simpson’s tome

>>22941898
is there anything else like it? A man giving a humble autobiography and summary of every issue he thinks is important to future generations (with works cited for further research) sounds like a genre that should be much more common. Most autobiographies don't do the latter part and also prattle on about things that would be completely useless to the reader and at worst are boomer-tier "I was there" masturbation. Simpson only includes autobiographical bits as long as they serve a purpose for his presentation of the issues, which I appreciate.
A must read for all white nationalists or people seeking to understand them.