/lit/ - Literature

Bakker is king

gurm is King

Goodkind is... good?

Read Malazan

>>22911950
Envy teams tags you with Spite. What are your chances of survival?

>>22911950
I’m almost done with GotM. I know it will get better once I’m on the next book. The question is how much better

>>22911950
Once I finish spook's apprentice I'll read it or thomas covenant, still deciding which one first

>>22911950
Is it your fav fantasy series?

>>22911950
>Read Malazan
No thanks
Another bland and poorly-written fantasy series that knowledgeable fantasy reviewers have steered me away from (Kelly's Review, Mark's Review)--an endless parade of flat characters filling out a convoluted plot with all the charm of an RPG game guide telling you where to pick up the best sword in order to beat the hardest demon boss.
Even the positive reviews I've read don't make it sound like a book worth reading, comparing it favorably to Martin (whose work I couldn't stomach), and suggesting that the plot often hinges on the reader recalling some apparently unrelated detail from two books ago, which some readers apparently enjoy, though to me it sounds like the worst sort of 'word search' writing. Moreover, most of the positive reviews cite the intensity and depth of Erikson's worldbuilding, but every fantasy book I've heard praised for this has turned out to be dull and flat with poor characterization and an aimless sense of structure for which the aphorism 'murder your darlings' was made.

>>22912148
>Kelly's Review, Mark's Review
link?

>>22906044
I was underwhelmed by his short fiction also. I was expecting something phenomenal, based on goodreads and the reverence he seems to have in this general. I did like them enough to check out Last Master, though. Will probably read that soon.

>>22912148
>Martin (whose work I couldn't stomach)
Martin is the king, pleb.

Asimov rules, Herbert drools

Science fiction sucks all round, anon. Fantasy rules supreme.

Posting for our Lord Kearney and the Monarchies of God series

>>22912239
based

Hm this was pretty good though sometimes hard to read

>>22912299
I like when post apocalyptic stories go into focus about society rebuilding and flourishing instead of it being constantly in ruins and decay

I just found out that in last years netflix adapted a bunch of young-adult fantasy slops but canceled them after a single season. What was with that?

>>22912370
Wasn't there Eragon adaptation? I watched first 20 minutes of the first episode. It was so pozzed I nearly puked.

Why did Chalmers kill Boone?

>>22912389
I mean, the source material wasn't good either. It's a miracle they even tried to adapt that one, again.

>>22911765
Origin Complex - Andrew Skinner, Steel Frame #2 (2022)

Crash Bin'Syan is one of the highest ranked analysts for the Sigurd-Lem corporation. She has a Mirror, a cybernetic twin that she shares a dual consciousness with, though they can mentally split apart and act independently. For the last decade or so she's been analyzing the quarantined alien ruins on planet Vija. Thirty years ago an alien AI was unleased there that made what humanity had built become a new layer of ruins. However, it's now believed to have been only a testing grounds to create a prison for a far worse AI. Somehow it's a second transition point to The Eye. What's happening at The Eye threatens all of human existence.

This book is significantly different from the first, of which it takes place before, during, and after. I enjoyed it less, if only because I found it to be less interesting. There's much less emphasis on Shells (mecha), combat, and thrills. It's much more investigations and travelling. The writing and the atmosphere it created remained pleasing, but that wasn't enough for me. As with the first book the relationship with the protagonist and their mechanical counterpart is a primary focus. The characters from the first book are present in this one as well, though only at the very end.

Writing about this, and rating it possibly more so, presents its own difficulties in that as of this writing it's the only review on Goodreads and one of the few anywhere else. As such, I don't want to present further challenges, but I also don't want to write or rate differently than what I feel. What I feel is that this is a 3.5 rounded down. I felt the same about the first book, though I liked it somewhat more, and even then it was a very near thing that I rounded that one up. My main problems is that it reads like a side story. The most it does to justify its existence is providing a new ending and explaining the downfall of the alien civilizations. Although Crash does a considerable amount of self-reflection with her Mirror which provides for questioning, I don't think it went far enough. The same goes for the attempt at romance, which seemed almost more like a nod to Gundam The Witch From Mercury which began the prior month than an organic relationship.

None of this is to say that you shouldn't read the first book then this one. The main problem with reading this one first is that much of scant worldbuilding isn't repeated from the first, so it may be confusing in that it doesn't explain everything all over again. I do believe that reading both of these is a worthwhile due to the different perspective it provides. The first book was traditionally published though this one was self-published, then co-published. I haven't any idea whether this is the final book in this setting. This storyline seems to have ended, though it is somewhat ambiguous.

Rating: 3.5/5 (3)

A newer edition includes a short story.
https://scarletferret.com/books/origin-complex

>>22912370
It's standard operating protocol for Netflix. Throw a lot of money at stuff, have it be made, see if it's immediately popular, if not, immediately cancel it. Repeat.

>Type of magic or magical trait appears to suck
>It's actually pretty potent under the right conditions
>Protagonist goes from weak to strong by learning to apply their magic correctly

Is there a good way to execute this in a setting that doesn't rely on everyone in that setting being too functionally braindead to work this out before the audience and the narrative can?

>>22912389
What? I can only find that Disney has Eragon in production, you must be thinking of some other slop, I admit it's hard to tell them apart

>>22912430
No, there's isn't, which is why the manga, light novel, web novels, etc, that rely upon it don't have such concerns. The closest thing would be some thing that wasn't considered much becoming the meta in a competitive game.

>>22912451
>A bunch of different flavors of magic
>A few obviously busted ones
>One that might be slightly busted but with significant drawbacks to it
>The obviously busted ones take off in the meta
>People develop counters for the obviously busted magic
>Nobody ever bothered to come up with consistently good counters for the slightly busted one with obvious drawbacks

Better?

>>22912443
Yes, that's the one I am talking about.
Disney or netflix or any other (((production company))) are all the same to me.

>>22912487
Yes, you could do something with that.

>>22912407
>Crash Bin'Syan is one of the highest ranked analysts for the Sigurd-Lem corporation

Those names are alredy annoying me

>>22912516
They are silly.

>>22912516
Well it's a female oriented story so you shouldn't be surprised.

>>22912487
Depends on the drawbacks.

I think Joe Abercrombie should finish ASOIAF

>>22912299
The sequel is better (except for the last quarter of the book which was written by someone else)

>>22911950
just dropped it 20% into 3rd book, booooring garbage

>>22912610
Fuck no. Joe Abercrombie is a fucking hack.

>>22912610
Bronn will sit on the iron throne

>>22912610
Nah, it should be someone with brains, who undestands social and historical processes.

Any sci-fi books about
>discovering new planets
>colonising new planets
>discovering aliens
>space war between diffrent factions

>>22912797
anything pre 70s
Post 70s became post colonalism and how those things you want changed the landscape of said scene, examples of that would be Fifth Head of Cerburus. What you maybe want is The Space Trilogy by CS Lewis

>What's the last book you finished?
>What book are you currently reading?
>What's the next book you plan to read?

>>22912838
I recently finished Tau Zero

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>>22912610
As a former fan I think ASOIAF should be rewritten as a trilogy with no mentions of genitals or excrement.

>>22912797
>space war between different factions
I would recommend the Art of War Trilogy by Richard Swan. Whole series is about massive space wars and galactic politics. The books have a very Halo/Mass Effect feel to them.

>>22912991
If I can't read about Arianne's big ol nipples or Dany shitting in a river then I don't want it.

>>22912610
it will be Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham

>>22912845
I finally finished Martial World. I was disappointed at its open-ended dangling plot thread cliffhanger for no reason and I don't plan to touch True Martial World.
>current
I'll keep reading through Cugel's Saga and Jester of Apocalypse: Volume 3. It looks like we'll FINALLY learn about the hidden manipulator/presence/whatever it actually is, in Jester, after this whole time.
>>22912797
xeelee: exultant
several of the xeelee stories feature these events, in varying degrees

>>22912610

Tad Williams maybe?

I finished The Hobbit, now I shall read Dune.

>>22913022
They've explicitly said they would refuse.

What will happen is that the Martin estate will go the way of the Tolkien estate.

>>22913132

They definitely aren't burning everything like Martin wants. His publisher will pull a Max Brod and capitalize on everything Westeros because it's such a big money maker for them they'd be stupid not to go through with it but they'll probably wait until after his wife dies before they start milking and raping the franchise like what happened with LOTR and Dune

>>22912845
last book i finished was Lucifer's Hammer, post apocalypse book about a meteor hittin earth. it was ok, i learned a lot about meteors and how the coasts would be fucked if something hit us other than that it was pretty bland, especially when i JUST read Swan Song, an absolutely incredible and interesting post apocalypse novel.

right now i'm reading The Guardians of the West. my aunt recommended it to me about 5 years ago, sent me the series in the mail and now i'm getting around to it. great writing but i'm unfamiliar with all the names and places that i'm being dropped into

>>22913124
They have to say that out of respect while the fat man still lives, they are personal friends of his.

>>22912748
In that case, it absolutely cannot be GRRM.

Richard Scott Bakker.

>>22913132
Imagine the poor man that will need to dig through all of that fat cunt's Cheeto-stained notebooks. When I picture Christopher Tolkien doing this, it's in a library of leather bound books, pipe in hand and a cozy fire blazing. GRRM's notes are all shoved into draws along with all the Kit-Kat wrappers.

>>22913271
Elaborate.

>>22913305
kek

>>22912430
Paranoid Mage tries to pull off something like it.

>>22912492
Don't you mean Percy Jackson? Because that came out recently and it was homopozzed.

>>22913322
Would you say that it does so effectively?

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

Ape-dono we need you...

>>22912797
Undying Mercenaries

>>22913387
>Reverend Insanity = Literally about an a-moral bugman killing/consooming/cultivating
>Lord of The Mysteries = Hard to into asian steampunk with potion based class acquisition, achievement and crafting progression with un-lockable magical items and sekret tarot organizations because it wasn't already confusing enough.
>Neuromancer = Decent cyberspunk i'm putting together a team novel
>Hyperion = Interplanetary high tech trooning -- 'ahhhh i'm in pain and pissing out of my anus so i may as well cruicify myself!'
>The Prince of Nothing = Bakker is for fags and fags are for Bakker. Simple as as simple does.
>The Wandering Inn = Stay at home moms power fantasy with a main character whos most prominent power is complaining while being a pacifist.
>Between Two Fires = Heaven Vs hell but in medievil FRANCE!
>Mother of Learning = Time loop and like all of the subgenre goes literally nowhere over and over again, has a decent magic system that some find mediocre and a main characters sister that is annoying as fuck.
>Cradle = Every second novel is a dud in the series with a birdbath of a main character. Only decent thing is the fights that get stale real quick because it does not take long to realize they are all ill conceived magical games of uno.
>I Shall Seal the Heavens = Proto xianxia at its worst, MC gets kidnapped into strong but lowly down on its luck sect. Queue haughty young masters, saving face and swilling ginseng infused tiger penis soup by the gallon.
>A Song of Ice and Fire = Fantastical medieval degeneracy where the caracters who should live die and the characters who should die live. Also author is too busy getting fat and old to finish the series.
>The Poppy War = Fem-C gets accepted to 20th century china-esque martial academy and gets looked down upon while struggling to overcome amidst pseudo researched equally vintage china political bullshit.

>>22913271
GRRM has a far better grasp of it than Abercrombie, who half-asses every single thing in his books

>>22913390

>Azarinth Healer = Starts good but fizzles hard midway. Author also makes the main character a low key lesbian because they clearly have no idea hat to do with their love life.
>Primal Hunter = MC+background is so impossibly nonsensical that he's not even cannon in his own setting.
>He Who Fights with Monsters = every character that isnt the MC is just there to be amazed at how smart Jason is while he tells them shit they already know before reminding them (incorrectly i might add) that 'Oh you have no idea".
>Dungeon Crawler Carl = The MC's sidekick (A cat named 'Princess Donut') is so much smarter than Carl (the MC) that every scene the two are in is eye-gougingly painful. This would not be so much of a problem if such scenes did not constitute the majority of the series.
>System Universe = After the initial premise is established it turns into how to pander to followers at a snails pace AKA; 'Filler McFiller Face - The Excessively Extended Sleep Inducing Saga'.
>Dissonance = MC gets god fucked more then once as he goes about becoming a man/bear/goat/pig/axolotl hybrid who also has many super sekret identities.
>Defiance of the Fall = Brain dead MC with very-much-just-barely opposed kingdom building with a wafer thin cultivation system
>Iron Prince = edgy school setting with even edgier MC who has lightning powers and no discernible challenges what so ever.

>>22912095
Thomas Covenant is Erikson favorite fantasy book series, they have pretty similar themes.

>>22911950
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>>22913661
Great posts anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

gay sex

>>22913381
Not them but god no
It's real world set so the 'discoveries' he makes aren't even plausible leaps forward

>>22913793
also I don't give a shit about the image spam but you've gotta do something about the spam opinion posts from someone who clearly hasn't read half of the books they're talking about

Asking for feedback on this one.
I've tried to avoid spoilers and excessive references to individual volumes.

I miss my oneitis so much it physically hurts me sometimes.

>>22912845
>Last
The Unholy Consult by R. Scott Bakker, 6/6 stars.
I didn't like the overlong scenes in the back half that were just battle scenes, but that's not really a criticism, I just don't like action scenes in books very much. Overall I liked the series a lot even though these last two entries missed a bit with how often the army was the focus of the narrative.
>Current
The Lost Fleet: Dauntless by Jack Campbell
It's aight. Kinda like half-baked Battlestar Galactica staring Captain America with a touch of Idiocracy. It's nice to have an easy read after all seven Second Apocalypse books. I finished almost the entire thing in 6 hours. Might intersperse more of the series between more priority reads considering how fast they are.
>Next
Gonna start the Coldfire series, if I don't like it I'll move on to The Expanse.

>>22913789
>>22913839
/sffg/ ladies and gentlemen

penis

benis3:DDDDDDDDDDX

Read Cherno Caster
I am self-shilling without an iota of shame
It's about a cyberpunk terrorist getting isekai'd into a world that isn't quite as fucked as hers and trying to find puppet masters behind the scenes because she doesn't know how to do anything else (big surprise she finds them)

should i play vidya or watch a tv show?

cocks...

>>22913974
How horny is it? I'll try it out it's /d/ecently coomer.

>>22914106
MC almost gets raped by a SCORN monster in the first couple chapters but mostly it's "biopunk Jane Wickzard does ultraviolence"

There are no sex scenes, just a lot of violence and weird magic, and the church isn't evil or incompetent for once

>>22913974
>cyberpunk terrorist getting isekai'd
jesus

Are there any Sanderson books which break his formula of mind numbing filler until the last five chapters?

>>22914185
she nuked the HQ of Blackro- er, "Whitestone" in her death throes (as a Dead Man's Switch)
this was a failure in her eyes because "the real puppet masters will just build a new HQ in another city with even tighter corporate security"
I also have a completely unironic pure hero of justice guy as the deuteragonist/foil

>>22914185
she nuked the HQ of Blackro- er, "Whitestone" in her death throes (as a Dead Man's Switch)
this was a failure in her eyes because "the real puppet masters will just build a new HQ in another city with even tighter corporate security"
I also have a completely unironic pure hero of justice guy as the deuteragonist/foil

>>22914187
>is there any water that isn't wet
???

>>22913310
https://acoup.blog/2020/12/04/collections-that-dothraki-horde-part-i-barbarian-couture/

>>22914343
Bayne?

>Start enjoying a fantasy authors work.
>Past intro and into boring travel arc.
>Wellokiguess.exif
>Author then uses a characters granted wish for gender change to highlight how broken and plot holed their magic system ahktually is.
>Intothetrashitgoes.pdf

>>22912845
Last: lord of light by Roger Zalanzyzyz
Current: just finished Dune by Frank Herbert.
An anon picked dune last time around for my next book and it is done.

5/5. This isn't my favorite book now or anything but it was great, the new movie was actually really well done after reading the book. It covered those scenes expertly I think. The book also reminded me of Hyperion sometimes with the mystique of Arakis and Paul.

I already knew the whole plot of the Dune series from watching a YouTube video years ago but I still really enjoyed reading it, if you are worried about knowing the general story, don't be.

There were some weird random plot devices, like a character will just make an illogical or unexplainable decision?
like gery or whatever just believing Jessica killed Duke Leto, like wtf are you smoking why the fuck would she be slumming it in sand hell if she was a traitor? Stuff like that, there were atleast 2 other times where similar stuff happened between characters like that, it wasn't like a plot hole or whatever just weird.

I will probably read the next in the series eventually.

Next: Neverwhere? Tales of the Dying Earth? Fall of hyerpion? The 2nd Witcher book?
Suggestions please.

>>22914315
胡 hates this

I like fantasy but I only like "soft" magic.

>>22914554
>Tales of the Dying Earth?
This is a complete meme, people who are putting it on same tiers as BoTNS or even Nightland or Hyperborea have dog brains

>>22913811
What's the game in the what I expected tab?

>>22914581
what is the breast 'soft' magic system?

Is WoT YA?

>>22914306
A brainlet's analysis of the TV show, nothing interesting.

>>22914602
This, but Night Land

>>22914624
Sid Meier's Colonization (the DOS one)

I dropped Dune, it's unreadable

>>22913381
Well of course not. The reason the MC's magic is considered weak is just because of self imposed dogma. Which he then promptly breaks and ends up as a pariah. I would say the story's appeal lies mostly in seeing a single resourceful man fight against a huge bureaucracy. Still, the MC manages to use his type of magic very effectively to his advantage.

Help me get into warhammer 40k, is there any reading order for someone that has no clue about it?

>>22912845

So I am currently looking for low stakes/slice of life fantasy titles for adults, and this title was one of the suggestions I received.
Now, I don't really care about the presence of LGBT elements as long as they don't become the focus of the book, but the cover, apart from being terrible, is giving me
Otherwise, any other title that fits my criteria?
Natural History of Dragons: A Natural History of Dragons sounded interesting on paper, but I read it's not really about the study of dragons, which serve as an excuse for a pseudo-social documentary and biblography of the main character.

>>22915015
read the Horus Heresy probably

>>22915015
The first few books of Horus Heresy are a good place to start. Horus Rising and False Gods at least. Afterwards, you can read pretty much whatever interests you. Helsreach is good if you don't want to start with 30k.

>>22915036
Try "Dragonsbane" by Barbara Hambly. It's semi-low stakes fantasy, but pretty comfy.

>>22915036
I will never read this on account of the gay as fuck name

>>22915088
It's my intention as well, but I didn't want to dismiss it out of hand, and finding good slice of life titles appear to be harder than expected.

Is this any good or is it dog feces

What am I in for?

>>22915322
Probably the most overrated book I've ever read. Characters are paper thin and the cast is pointlessly bloated. Hell, there's one character who literally has eight different personalities with their own names. This isn't ever actually relevant to anything in the story, it just serves to add a bunch of names. The author comes across as a stereotypical Ideas guy who just throws everything into a pot on a whim without bothering to make it fit. "This character has eight personalities! Why? Because I think it's cool." "There's literal vampires and they're literally harmed by crucifixes. Why? Because I think it's cool".

>>22915322
I'm currently reading it though I'm not finished. I think it's cool.

>>22915333
>>22915338
mixed signal
but from I gathered, good idea, bad characters sci-fi.
just like The Dark Forest

>>22915347
Yes, the sci-fi/horror part is good, but the character part is pretty bad and annoying. That's how I remember it.

>>22915036
picrel is dogshit
even ignoring the lmnopbbq shit and wokeoid author, it's aggressively below-average reddit fiction

>>22915316
From what I remember, I think they were good. But I read them 20 years back.

>be me
>remember a book series I liked as a child
>look it up
>realize it's an isekai
I guess I was always doomed to write this genre

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11713099-mezzarthys

>>22915387
Got other suggestions then?

>>22915505
You might like Heretical Fishing

>>22914647
SEX
SEX WITH BROWN ELVES
Also I'd say it starts as what we'd consider now to be YA but it becomes adult fiction fairly quickly.

So is this the correct, pvre version of all Conan content to get? Because I get conflicting info here, some people say that it has no fanfiction other say that it does and De Camp rewrites are here. I never read Conan and I don't want to read fanfiction, especially as my first interaction with him in book format.

>>22915536
Never heard of it, what is that about?
Anyone familiar with The Healer's Road? That may have the right atmosphere as well.

>>22915573
The del rey books will always be the best. Idk about others but the del rey trilogy has 0 rewrites and even includes some of REH's drafts as a bonus

>>22915573
not sure about that preparation specifically, but the toc doesn't seem to include a "notes on the text".

I read pic related (del rey, it's 3 volumes) and it contains a very detailed notes on the texts, and it was prepared by 3 people instead of 1. prepared from howard's own drafts and typescripts if they exist, then the magazine published edition if they don't.
all the changes they list are type-o/punctuation corrections.

so how many levels of qi refining is there actually?

Does body refining stages come first or can cultivators skip that?

What about the zifu mansion stage, does it exist or is it just the final step of foundation building ?

>>22915905
>1
depends
usually 9
>2
depends
>3
depends

it all varies story to story
are you talking about a specific one?

>>22915933
i'm talking about irl

>>22915905
Normally cultivators have to grind through all that but there are certain demonic practices that lets you skip it.

>>22915940
there are no "levels" of qi refining in real historical neidan practice, it's an invention for xianxia/wuxia novels

>>22915933
>are you talking about a specific one?
feels like it with the mention of zifu mansion

>>22915940
only cultivation that exists irl is mental cultivation by which you can, supposedly, experience higher states of consciousness

>>22912204
cut from the same cloth

combined is awesome

>>22912797
>discovering new planets
>discovering aliens
>space war between different factions
To Sleep In A Sea Of Stars, written by the eragon author. Notably better than his previous work.

Stop making fun of chinese webnovels

>>22915573
The Del Rey collections are the absolute best. All the stories are uncut and in written order. Plus they have tons of extras.

>>22916528
Read Way of Choices. Do it for Luoluo!

>>22916528
But it's so easy to do when they are all so shit.

>>22916663
when is this fucker writing the sequel

>>22911765
Ok I was thoroughly impressed and delighted after finally getting around to reading Lancelot, the knight of the Cart by Chrétien de Troyes.

Dont know if it quites fits here, is fantasy, but also kinda historical in terms oldness and effect, like some icelandic sagas, but whatever. I have been going through different general time periods of literature, and just got out of my saga phase, stuff like Volsunga, Frithiof, and Elig. And had just read Gawain and the green knight just before, Tolkein translation. TBQH I found Green knight to be a bit exhausting and long winded with its alliteration and excessive verbal flourishes in a rather basic story, but still somewhat entertaining.

But the knight of the Cart is something completely different. Almost feels like a modern novel. The pacing, the prose, the characters, and everything feels so well balanced for 1190 or whatever. Most of the dialogue is a bit poetic, but not to the point of being annoying or exhausting, just entertaining, and does quite succinctly get to the point. The action is also similarly snappy, entertaining, punchy and quick. Oddly enough, it details combat more then the more bellicose tone of sagas like the volsunga. (that is to say spends a paragraph or 2 on a fight instead of a line or 2). And is often pretty exciting. THe main characters are pretty well formed and even some side characters as well. Gives you a real sense of a courtly pseudo-historical mindset and setting. Where face, right, honor, might, love, lusts, oaths, wealth, religion, courtasy, and worth are all extremely important and in the forefront of people's minds and often times one thing might need to be compromised for another.

Not even a complaint, just a categorization anomaly. It barely can even be called a fantasy book. the only really fantastical element is a single episode with a sword shapped bridge and thats it. Its even technically feasible, just out of the ordinary.

Id highly recommend it even for people with modern tastes and a low bar for historical story writing idiosynchrasies. I would even compare it to Robert howard stuff in terms of legibility.

>>22911950
sorry, gardens of the moon is too much of a slog

What is DK Holmberg? Is it a pen name for a group of writers, an AI? How the fuck does it write two or three books a month, juggling multiple series with different worlds? And it's all fantasy, not even a token attempt at sci-fi, urban fantasy, horror, anything. And it's not... bad. It's not really good, but not mediocre enough to take you out of the book, just good enough that you can finish it.

Give me a brief review about this.

>>22917358
is this about a knight or some cyberpunk cowboy shit what is this cover and typeface

>>22916528
YOU ARE COURTING DEATH!

>>22915573
I've just been using Project Gutenberg. They can't have fan fiction, since it's not old enough to have avoided copyright.

>>22914306
>(Of course there is the cover that thereis a ‘dash’ of pure fantasy – that is why this is going to be a rather comprehensive look. If we just discussed this or that aspect, one might well claim “ah, but there is the dash of fantasy.” But at the same time, a ‘dash’ only goes so far; if I ask you to add a ‘dash’ of pepper to a recipe and the end product comes back 51% pepper by mass, we need not debate semantics to understand that something has gone really rather wrong.)
Absolute autism. Not even the smart kind, just the hyperfixating on particular things and not understanding autism.

>>22913843
Word of advice, just stop after the syndic plotline ends

You will thank me later

>>22917358
A generic fantasy with boring POVs where the MC clearly has a love interest who then cucks him HARD for his bully (as in revealing she somehow always hated him while doing it) and then they spend the rest of the book running while some princess chick pretends to play warrior elsewhere and the heroes lose constantly.

The dog named Beermug was the best part of the story.

Anyone have a recommendation for a comfy low fantasy with a female mc that occasionally gets into sticky situations (having to disguise her self in skimpy clothing/as a courtesan/dancer to infiltrate the bad guys lair?

>>22917503
About how many is that? I figured I'd start getting bored around book 6.

Black Sun Rising is really good so far. About 100 pages in. Very good blend of sci-fi and fantasy. Did not expect the main character to be a paladin.

Am I right to drop this?

I'm a couple hundred pages in and it's terrible.

The protagonist was heading for a mountain, and he spent less than a chapter there and left it.

>>22917782
poser cover

>>22917782
>modern fantasy
you have only yourself to blame, anon.

any other good books with fairies? really enjoyed the fairy scenes in pic-related (no female authors, of course)

>>22917903
>(no female authors, of course)

>>22917903

Swanwick probably lived with the fuckers or at least did a lot of drugs with them

>>22915316
Ehhhh. I made it through the first book but it is not her best work.

>>22911765
Bought all-in-one Earthsea. I'm already in the middle of third tome, it doesn't get any better, does it?

>>22917903
I think "Little, Big" is the archetype here.

i don't like the ui for campfire. any worldbuilding app alternatives?

what is it about sanderson that bores the hell out of me? i just can't put my finger on it.

>>22918171
Obsidian

>>22918176
what is it about plain rice crackers that bores the hell out of me?

>>22911765
Anyone got anything good thats kung-fu/wude based? I'm cool with silly fantasy replacement concepts

>>22918156
Nah earthsea is YA, yip yip appa time to be zany

>>22918179
>no images
cringe

>>22918156
I think the very last book in that tome is different in tone and style. The rest is YA.

>>22917903
thanks, I'll take a look at that.

My challenge for this year is to read everythging in the adult fiction section of B/X reading list.

>>22918233
don't listen to him. use notion.

>>22917503
Nta, but why? I have read lost fleet but stopped before lost stars (syndic story ark).

>>22917643
I will now check out coldfire trilogy.

Is don quixote considered as fantasy lit ?

>>22912797
Check out Larry Niven. Ringworld and Crashlander are good starts

i've really been enjoying phillip k dick and willion gibson... who else would (you) recommend? doesn't necessarily need to be scifi

>>22918838
william*...

So I was just reading Conan the Barbarian/Conan the Cimmerian and decided to look at the map and now I'm confused. Isn't Cimmeria supposed to be Crimea? Why is it parts of Scotland, Norway, and Sweden? lol

>>22918898
nvm, apparently the entire map was wrong.

>>22912153
Nice to know I am not alone. Yeah, I certainly don't think its bad, but I definitely wasn't in love with the writing either. Be sure to report back if you do read Past Master. That is the main one I hear people like. Maybe I should have started with that, but I saw the "best of" at the store and thought it would be a good taste test.

>>22918210
Come on I know you nerds have something, don't leave me hanging

>>22917782
>english translation
yikes

>>22915316
had no idea cj cherryh also wrote fantasy

I really enjoyed Revelation Space, I think the sequels got less enjoyable with every book, Inhibitor Sequence almost felt like a fan novel.
The auxiliary short stories collected in Galactic North ranged from meh to engaging and provided some interesting world building for parts of the universe not seen in other novels.
Revelation Space stands alone perfectly fine imo, almost like it wasn't originally intended to have so many sequels/side content.

>>22915316
If you like older white haired alien-warrior women who fall in love with younger men it's good.
She wrote the trilogy when she was still young so the prose it's not the best, she wrote the last book like 10 years later and it's one of her best books desu
>>22917903
War of the Flowers by Tad Williams
>(no female authors, of course)
touch grass, chuddie
>>22918210
>>22919123
The Initiate Brother
Kensho/Wayfarer by Dennis Schmidt
>>22919176
Morgaine is more space fantasy but she did wrote a few fantasy books, Fortress in the Eye of Time, Paladin, Arafel, Goblin Mirror, Rusalka etc. they are all pretty good.

>>22918210
Jin Yong novels. It's like those old Chinese martial arts movies, with Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee.

>>22919207
It's a mess. The male main character is basically stuck the entire book and contributes nothing.

>>22918898
>>22918907
>Isn't Cimmeria supposed to be Crimea?
No, I don't know where you heard it

>>22919235
He uses a lot of other ancient names for places too.

Why did BS just lazily rehash Dalinar's scene again?

>>22919356
he's been rehashing kaladin's depression for at least 3, I've heard 4 books now

>>22917908
cringe

post unintentionally comedic prose
>The Anora led them to a pinched mountain pass that stood at the mouth of a long, deep-set valley. Atop the mountain to the left of the pass was a ruined watchtower built in the elven style, with no path or road that led to its dark walls, and Murtagh knew it and spoke its name in the ancient language: Ristvak’baen, or Place of Sorrow. He felt both sorrow and revulsion, for it was there, in that tower, that Galbatorix had slain Vrael, leader of the Riders, following the great battle on Vroengard Island. That event, more than any, had marked the Riders’ downfall.
>Galbatorix had bragged of the fight more than once. Murtagh could see him still, sprawled across the fur-draped chair in his banquet hall, his harsh, eagle-like features lit by the flames from the long fireplace set within one wall, eyes burning with unsavory delight as he recounted how he had felled Vrael with a kick betwixt the legs.

>>22911765

some day a man will be horny enough to write a fantasy novel in which the protag gets a dragon gf

>>22919513
Dragon girls aren't remotely uncommon in most smut.

>>22919516

you know I mean the whole article anon

>>22918898
>>22918907
what are you talking about?
cimmeria isn't crimea

>>22914554
the movie butchered the book, what are you talking about? if you think it's a good adaptation you didn't understand the book

>>22919530
how would that work, logistically speaking?

>>22919549
>Cimmeria, an ancient name of Crimea, a peninsula in the northern part of the Black Sea. Bosporan Kingdom, a polity of antiquity located on Crimea, also referred to as Cimmeria
>Cimmerians, an ancient people who lived in the North Caucasus in the 8th and 7th century BC, usually associated with the ancient Cimmeria or Crimea
>Cimmeria (Conan), a fictional country created by Robert E. Howard for his Conan the Barbarian stories

>faenor asks galadriel for a lock of her hair because it captured the light of Telperion and Laurelin
>she refuses
>he just forges the silmarils instead
>Melchor and Ungoliant destroy the two trees
>ungoliant wants to devour the silmarils as well
>is refused
>the silmarils are recovered
>eärandil marries a mortal woman
>and fathers two sons, elrond and elros
>elrond becomes and elf, elras becomes a human and founds the royal house of numenor
>eärandil flies and becomes a star together with one of the silmarils
>eärandil is the most beloved star of the elves
>its light is bound into a phial
>which galadriel gives to frodo
>which sam uses to defeat shelob, daughter of ungoliant
>which allows them to defeat sauron and bring about the new age of aragorn
>who is a descendant of elras
>and marries the daughter of elrond, an elf
Are these historic loops intentional by tolkien?

>>22912845
>The Gathering Storm
>Towers of Midnight
>A Memory of Light
Wheel of Time bros... I'm almost free

>>22919791
Was it any good?

I'm not a fan of the whole
>fantasy world was our world in the past
Trope, abliet with a few exceptions

>>22915088
>>22915098
>I am somehow gayer than the title of a book.
Checks out

>>22919952
>(you) sort of are
Where as i 100% believe 'alternate history' fantasy & Sci-fi can go fuck itself

do not read translation state, it is HORRIBLE. I'm astonished how bad it is

is greg egan's three book series worth reading??

>>22911950
Read gardens of the moon and it was garbage. A huge slog with antagonists getting introduced a couple of pages before they are beaten by a shadow-the-hedgehog-tier sephiroth looking character and his donutsteal blade.

>>22920048
I think so, but for most, probably not. It's very much science and social issues. I'd link to what I posted about them if I could, but I can't because I did so when warosu was messed up and not archiving. I don't feel like posting them again or linking to my Goodreads reviews of them. I guess I could put all three in a single paste and link it if you want. Otherwise, just read what others say in the archive or elsewhere.

>>22920086
i like his other books so i'm used to his take on hard science, I was just curious. I haven't seen anyone discuss them here before so i was worried that they're dogshit

>>22920097
You won't see 99% of books or more discussed here.

>>22920115
idk i see people talk about his books pretty often here

>>22920119
https://pastebin.com/wPBGbxUS

Give me recs that mix mythology and science fiction.
I want to read about egyptian gods and cyborgs or something like that.

>>22920134
thanks, I'm maybe 1/3 through the first book and yeah there are a bunch of physics lectures and "omg what if I do xyz experiment." i'm not well versed on contemporary terran light physics so i'm not sure wtf is different or not etc.

>Magic is a sex linked trait
>On the X chromosome
>More women than men have it, and only women can get a double dose of it
>Some type of physical power like barbarian rage is also a sex linked trait
>On the Y chromosome so only men have it

How many hoops do I have to jump through to justify to the audience why men aren't deliberately bred with both traits the way that families with magic try to make sure that they have extremely magical daughters? Just how eye-rollingly special snowflake is a main character who has both traits in spite of this? Or does it all come down to presentation?

>>22920161
All three books are like that

>>22920163
Magic doesn't have to be scientific or rational. Hard fantasy isn't the only option.

>>22920167
hmm i might be too retarded to enjoy the series then

>>22920175
Who is born with magic can be entirely logical without explaining the magic in a hard and codified way.

>>22920191
2nd and 3rd book thoughts
https://pastebin.com/qhr0cDDz

>>22920208
Sure, but that's only for you and not the reader if you don't explicitly include it, in which case it's only about making you feel better about it.

>>22919716
Love finds a way

>>22920231
The mild inversion of the gender power dynamic and the selective breeding practices should probably clue the readers in pretty quickly that something is going on.

>>22920242
Should it though? We're talking about contemporary books where the traditional gender power dynamic tends to be inverted as is, assuming males are included at all.

>>22920252
Yes. Magic-central has a wildly different dynamic between genders than where the non-magical people are. That should be a major clue for the reader.

>>22920281
Oh, ok, one last thing. I'm not going to look if you have, but why ask here rather than the world building general?

>>22920295
There's a worldbuilding general? Huh. I had this tab open and I figured I'd ask in either this or the writing general, but I guess I'll go ask there. Sci-fi and fantasy readers seemed like logical people to ask though.

>>22920163
So the Downies have insane magic power and barbarian super strength. Checks out.

>>22920317
>Sci-fi and fantasy readers
You won't find those here. Only about 5 of us have read more than ten books or two authors.

>>22920317
>>22864109

>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=wbg

>>22920370
>2 weeks up
>150 posts
bit weird

>>22920473
It's a very slow general.

>>22920328
would be an interesting kind of mechanism in the world
downies who have super powerful magic but, depending on their level of severity of down syndrome, they may or may not have a distinct ability to wield it effectively, in severe cases, only using it for extremely pedantic things, or using it unintentionally like a toddler
set up a governing body who's sole purpose is to find newborns touched by the syndrome and either indoctrinate/exploit, or murder, if they are considered too unpredictable

>>22920498
any low fantasy series with an mc that looks like this?

>>22911950
Hello from >>>/tg/slop

>>22912092
Quite a bit better, and MoI in turn. My fave is Midnight Tides

>>22912148
No one who has read MT would claim this

>>22920536

>>22920536
Humble Kruppe just wants cunny.

>>22920539

>>22920541
Snu snu is the opposite of cunny

>>22920542
>becomes a real boy
>secures pussy

>>22920554
I was so happy for him.

Currently formatting my novella for release in March, just a wanted to warn you guys that I may shill a few times

why would it take till march to release it
these chi-com web novel writers do 2 chapters a day

what did you do
15 chapters? released 3 months from now?
fking
get
with
it

>>22920773
I hope you know it will almost surely be as well received as every other time this has happened, which is it say not well at all. Your self-published novella won't be congratulated or bought. It's unfortunate, but that's the market.

>>22920787
Usually happens at the beginning of your career anyhow, the only solution is to keep doing it.

>>22920795
Best of luck with your blissful stumbling around in the dark, ignorant that light exists.

>>22920813
You seem like a frightened person.

The Sandersonite CRETINS have come out of the woodwork to defend their indulgent drivel. I don't care about the CRABS or the PLANTS or your DUMB MAP when your characters have no spark of humanity and only exist so they can FLY AROUND AND FIGHT. Authors worthy of the name can draw real human tragedy from just 20 pages of two people talking in a room; the modern fantasy "author" can't provide a glimpse of humanity from 1000 PAGES of the most APOCALYPTIC CLASH of GOOD AND EVIL. I recently attempted to get through book one of Sanderson's "epic" Stormlight saga, and was FLOORED when he had to represent how characters feel by MAGICAL EMOTION FAIRIES because he was UNABLE to convey it through BELIEVABLE DIALOGUE. THIS IS THE MAN WHO HAS THE MOST POPULAR LECTURE ON WRITING ON YOUTUBE. It is no wonder that today's young fantasy writers think CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is synonymous with "LEVELING UP". World-building represents the D&Dification of the Fantasy genre. The focus foremost on setting rather than character, prose, plot, or theme, can only be explained by the influx of AUTISTIC sons of 35 year old mothers who cannot understand or conceptualize human emotions or relations, and can't write for shit. BRANDON SANDERSON has destroyed an entire generation of writers, along with VIDEO GAMES, ANIME and AUTISM. It should be no surprise that the current trend in the genre are so-called "LitRPGs"--a derivative of ISEKAI, D&D, and VIDEO GAMES, because these stunted shut-ins have no exposure to the world beyond the mediated glow of their computer screens and the musky back rooms of tabletop gaming centers. MAGIC SYSTEMS are the product of STEM AUTISM and are completely irrelevant to anything that makes a story worth reading. The entire genre has become one big MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAM. The only solace is that fantasy is falling into such disrepute that it can safely be consigned to the same bin as YA fiction and romance slop.

>>22920831
I feel Sanderson may be the only author that receives neutral feedback/discussion, where most agree that he produces formulaic serviceable repeated generic stories to breeze through. Truly the author of all time.

>>22920820
What are your expectations? What would success be for your novella?

>>22919696
Explain why you think that.

The differences are minor, house atreties is shown less honestly in the movie (portrayed as more loyal/caring), that guy never plays the banjo in the movie, the betrayal by the emperor and harks is less telegraphed in the movie, Paul isn't a mentat in the movie.

The only other things you could complain about is stylistically, the spice farmers are more industrial and less beatle like, the orthocopters are more dragon fly and less bird for example.

Other than that it was pretty good, all of that stuff is minor. Compare this movie adaptation to the 'Fahrenheit 451' adaptation by HBO a couple years ago, I'm serious, go watch that movie and never again misuse the word 'butchered' to describe such a gracious adaptation as dune 2021.

>>22920843
I'm not the novella writer. I just disdain weakness.

>>22920831
Isn't science fiction about STEM AUTISM as well? Must we abandon all speculative fiction? There's naught left but to fall into a coma and let our dreams be all there is.

>>22920865
You don't consider it a weakness of character to be posting here? Maybe the one you have the most disdain for is yourself, and if you don't, you should.

>>22920831
There's a huge culture of "improving ones self", not just in books

>>22920882
Which is itself part of grifting culture

>>22920880
>You don't consider it a weakness of character to be posting here?
You do? I guess I was right then.

Brandon Sanderson is the Big Mac of SFF. It is easy to like but it is not good in the long run.

>>22920831
>based_cigar.png

What's a fantasy book published in 2023 you read?

Choose
Earn many millions of dollars and have a huge following from your mediocre books

Have to work full time in other jobs your entire life making an average income, but a few 1000 people think you're the best author who ever lived and you're well-regarded by your peers and have won various awards.

Can anyone vouch for pic related? Wanted a new series to get invested in but I don't want it to suck halfway through and have my autism commit to seeing it through to the end.

>>22920921
dungeon crawler carl 6
im reading blade of rebels (lost sect book 2) right now

>>22920907
ive been eating big mac for years, idk what u talking about fag

>>22920921
Tyranny of Faith
I read quite a few though

>>22920928
your taste is shit

>>22920927
That reads like you want to be able to blame someone else rather than yourself if it doesn't go well. You have to take responsibility for your own choices.

There's 2 5 star ratings, one has a review, 1 4 star, and 1 2 star. Personally I wasn't interested in it, but that doesn't mean much. No one has the 2nd book marked as read. You can also look in the archive for opinions.

>>22920921

>>22920934
>chartmaker
Like your opinion means anything more than the dirt on my shoe.

>>22920927
Main character is a homo, don't bother.

>>22921061

>>22920534
Sorry/Apsalar from Malazan

>>22921061
into the trash it goes then

>>22920785
I'm waiting for a few ecelebs who committed to giving me blurbs and sending advanced copies to a few people next week

>>22920787
Oh I know. I write for my own enjoyment and to make the kind of stories I enjoy (kino). I have a real job and have no intention to ever be a fulltime writer

>>22915316
I liked this until the very end when Morgaine blueballs Vanye and the series just ends without any sort of resolution, either between the Morgaine/Vanye relationship or Morgaine's goal of destroying the qhal gates.

>>22915316
>>22921243
oh also I read this and was similar disappointed when the story just sort of petered out, a glut of missed opportunities with this series, but at least its not a total cuck-out like Morgaine

>>22920542

>>22919791
You're in the Sanderson slog now. Memory of Light is like a 1000 page battle sequence, try to whether it.

>>22912690
so's Martin, which makes Abercrummy the perfect choice

Does anyone else find book of the new sun really comfy?

>>22913013
I remember Swan from his Dragonlance fanmodules in the 1990s.
Honestly, Deborah Christian was better, but maybe Swan has improved.

>>22921400
>t. retard/samefag
ahh fuck, that was probably a different hack with the same name.

What would a buddhist/japanese xianxia be like?

>>22919513
Paolini was a teenager when he wrote this fap.

>>22921243
Cherry is IIRC a clitlicker in real life, so, don't be surprised if her stronk protagonists duck out of taking dick.
At least she's not MZ Bradley.

>>22919513
But please make it an adventure romance and not smut.
I'm surprised it hasn't already happened with all the soul bonding and dragonriding.

>>22921061
Very apt title then.

>>22921419
literally every anime ever made

>>22921437
Cherryh is willing to write hetero romance all the time, and it's made incredibly clear in the series that Morgaine and Vanye are intensely sexually attracted to one another but in that series she doesn't even allow a cut-to-black, the series ends with a chaste peck on the cheek as they ride off to further adventures (that was 35 years ago and there's been nothing since and there never will be)
that sort of thing just pisses me off

>>22915036
If you like stuff that's a weird mixed media format documentary style examination of a fantasy worldbuild, City of Saints and Madmen by Jeff Vandermeer is well worth checking out, along with it's (sort of) sequel; Shriek: An Afterword.

Both 10/10 books

>baldree
>10/10
>>>/reddit/ genuinely
what a 300th post to make

If I want a physical edition of the LoTR books, should I get a boxset or a single volume edition?

>>22921700
i like boxed, but depends on the box

>>22921700
it depends on personal preference
I used to have mass market paperbacks with horrible covers using the movie posters, then I got rid of those and replaced it with a $150 leatherbound collector's edition

>>22921700
Single volume for reading
Box set if you feel like burning away some cash

>>22921751
>durr hurr durr range

>>22919513
Okay but none of that pussy-ass human form shit

I'll write a book that features horse sex and gay horse sex

>>22921751
Those books most glow in the dark.
>>22921784
The one with elephant hide?
>>22921898
I saw a boxset with the trilogy and the hobbit for the same price as a illustrated, single-tome edition, so I'm more concerned about readability.

>>22919791
I'm 80% through the great hunt, I'm enjoying it but I get the feeling it won't be worth it

>Silk nodded

>Meng Hao smiled bashfully

>>22922178
Then pick any softcover available. Hardcovers are difficult to read over prolonged periods.

What are the most 'writeable' powers for an urban fantasy male protag?

>>22922442
I cast FIST

>>22922442
what sort of story?

>>22922853
Little boy going on the prowl for older girls.

Imagine reading Wolf in Shadow and then suddenly Titanic out of nowhere.

WHAT'S IN YOUR HEAD, IN YOUR HEAD

>>22923291
She was one of many singers who committed suicide. What was in her head head indeed. The Bad Wolves cover is interesting as well, especially their autobiographical songs.

>Reading The Way of Kings
>It's a Shallan chapter
>Followed by a Kaladin flashback chapter
>Followed by three literally who interludes
Why does Brandon do it to me? I don't like skipping chapters, but I just can't deal with this shit. I want to read the actual interesting story about the guy in a penal battalion or the nobles scheming and shit, not whatever the fuck this retarded unlikable smug cunt is doing with her frigid bitch of a tutor, or random Planeswalkers doing mysterious shit that has no impact on the main plot, that I need to have read every single Cosmere wiki article to even understand

>>22923395
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I inhaled the first two books the last two weeks because I bought an e-ink reader, and Shallan and the constant circling around nothing just ruined it for me. It was alright for the first one, because Kaladin and Dallinar are just fucking chads and the story is new and interesting, but I still don't understand the need for Shallan.
I really liked her at the end of book 2 for a few chapters, but at the beginning of book 3 she was obnoxious again and I started skipping her chapters. After realising I missed nothing important I reluctantly just dropped the whole series, because what's the point if I just end up skipping almost half of the book.
I fucking hate her. And the Kaladin Flashbacks are just as bad, because you know after the third one whats happening, but you still have to read through 200 pages of uninteresting backstory.
The purelake interlude still makes no sense to me and I've never seen the characters again after 2000 pages.
Could have been a great series if it was half the pages. There probably is a good series under all the fluff.

>>22923411
nta, but the purelake stuff is covered more in one of the novellas. Really, you have to read everything to understand much

>>22923424
I get it and I don't hate it and I would have enjoyed it if I read the other books, but it's still like 20 pages added for a reference I have to read another book for to understand in a book that is already bloated.
Is it just there to connect the books? Because if it is it could have been done better and I think it's done better with Hoid in the same book. I don't know what his deal is, but I know there is something more to him and he actually does important stuff to the plot.

>>22923395
Actually filtered

>>22923435
>You NEED to read 400 pages of nothing happening to a boring cringe worthy character or else you're filtered
Is this what Mormons actually believe?

>>22923460
please ignore responses from newfags

is it just me or this is poorly written?like even for fantasy standards?

>>22923476
Fuck off

>/sffg/fags when they actually have to read books

>>22923501
>read books
sorry bro, audiobooks only

>>22923501
Reading books is supposed to be enjoyable. If an author blunders badly enough to make one of his PoV characters as grating as nails on a chalkboard, it's hardly the reader's fault

>>22923501
You mean
>normalfags when someone reads or talks about something that isn't Martin/Vance/Wolfe/Rothfuss/Simmons/Abercrombie/et al.

>>22922378
>>22922390
>Ching chonged

>>22923395
>he fell for the sanderson meme
The more worrying thing is (you) woke up the sandersoi's with (you)r posting about it.

>>22923632
He's not so bad, generally speaking. Not my favorite author, but he writes decent stories, and he writes a lot.

>>22923653
I could forgive him if he had a satisfying end to even one of his universes, but he always shits the bed ALWAYS
Why even be a writer if you cant finish a story properly?
inb4 Rothfuss or GRRM