/lit/ - Literature

bump,
very interested to hear on it.
one book i can think is the baburnama (autobiography) - the guy would go to any lengths to make it, losing everything multiple times and risking his own life all along,
he kept trying on and on until he made. built different.

The Art of the Deal

>>22865960
why's elon there?

>>22865960
The Night Land

>>22865960
Join the hustlers University join that course from that here in my garage guy join every 2 bit scammer billionares course who advertises on yt

>>22865960
>His daily schedule then looked something like this. He got up at 5:00 A.M. His servant Martin Lampe, who worked for him from at least 1762 until 1802, would wake him. The old soldier was under orders to be persistent, so that Kant would not sleep longer. Kant was proud that he never got up even half an hour late, even though he found it hard to get up early. It appears that during his early years, he did sleep in at times. After getting up, Kant would drink one or two cups of tea -- weak tea. With that, he smoked a pipe of tobacco. The time he needed for smoking it "was devoted to meditation." Apparently, Kant had formulated the maxim for himself that he would smoke only one pipe, but it is reported that the bowls of his pipes increased considerably in size as the years went on. He then prepared his lectures and worked on his books until 7:00. His lectures began at 7:00, and they would last until 11:00. With the lectures finished, he worked again on his writings until lunch. Go out to lunch, take a walk, and spend the rest of the afternoon with his friend Green. After going home, he would do some more light work and read.

>viral marketer forgot to hide his 4chan pass logo
is that why your shill threads stay up? you're paying for the pass?

>>22865981
Running a space company such that even fucking US who landed people on the moon, has to give up and use your rockets, takes something.

>>22865998
>takes something
yeah it's called a double major in physics and economics from upenn

>>22865996
>hide his 4chan pass logo
Why would I? I paid 20$ for it. It was my hard earned money. I have the right to, I paid for the services.
>viral marketer
I am just an anon. I have been here for more than a decade.

>>22865998
Mars is a pipe dream. He's scamming everyone. You better read books on how to manipulate people into beliving your schemes. It has nothing to do with the grindset.

>>22866005
>double major in physics and economics from upenn
Why didn't other double majors do it then?

>>22865981
>>22866005
>>22866010
Fine. Just ignore him. He's in the corner anyway.

>>22866007
>I have been here for more than a decade.
based. but why?

dedicate your life to one thing and start doing that thing as soon as you wake up. do not 'warm up' or 'wake up' just immediately start doing it & try to get important work done before noon or so

>>22866007
you expect me to believe you made an andrew tate thread for free?

>>22866026
This is not a tate thread. This is a grinndset thread.

>>22865960
In addition to pic related you also have to get a gig economy job and work for the remainder of each day, stay single (I know I know, won't be an issue for you) but tell everyone a bitch would just get in the way of all the hustlin. You must also forgo any paths to Zeta multidimensionality and theta emotional processing memery and tell yourself you are the silent alpha in any and all group settings.

>>22866029
The camwhores who work for him are the example of the grindset. He's just a pimp.

>>22865960
Be a man and now fuck off to >>>/r/eddit nigger

>>22866046
>t.salty omega.

>>22865984
>>22866019
Thanks.

I will get a second job over the weekends. Probably join a work gang. I spend my weekends doing nothing anyways so why not start grinding. No reason to have a private life when one has no friends.

Post more books, please?

Usually it's same kind of trauma that makes you unable to fit in normally BUT you want to so much you find other paths

>>22866085

>>22866010
were is the new video thunferf00t?

Cristiano Ronaldo is an interesting guy if you look at his history. He is basically talent + hardwork, and left his family at an early age to join a academy in Portugal while his family lived in Madeira. He was alone in Lisbon where the other kids took the piss out of him because of his accent, and he went full sigma as a fuck you to everyone. Just before he got signed my Manchester United his dad died of some health issues related to alcoholism- not only could Ronaldo have payed for and dealt with his dads problems if he lived a little longer, but his dad could of seen him actually make it.

>>22866100
What's wrong with I said?

>>22866114
>*by Manchester United

I was sure there would be a lot of books because the Greeks and Romans were buff guys who talked about training your body and mind to the extreme. I am suprised at the lack of them.

>>22866114
>>22866131
Well, his Dad wasn't exactly supportive of him, and always told him he wouldn't make it. He was supposed to be aborted but his Mom changed her mind.

>>22866141
true but Ronaldo himself has some compassion for his dad despite that and seems to be affected by it. Madeira is so heavily catholic I don’t know where someone would get aborted. Kids got sent to nuns in the past.

>>22865960
Essentially what started the whole movement. I think.

>>22865960
Machiavelli's The Prince for the OG grindset.
You are an immature fool who has watched too many movies. No one on their deathbeds wishes they worked more, they always wish they had spent more time with their family and friends.

look at all those destroyed bodies

>>22866182
>Machiavelli's The Prince for the OG grindset.
Is there such a thing as ethical grindset? Or do morals really have to go out the window?
>family and friends
I am doing this for them.

>>22866182
>they always wish they had spent more time with their family and friends.
I've spent quite a bit of time with my family already. I don't have friends, don't care. All I wish is women loved me intimately.

>>22866192
>Is there such a thing as ethical grindset
Managing some charity and pocketing half the money perhaps.
But morals are for lesser beings and only slow you down from getting ca$h my dude /s
>>22866198
>I don't have friends, don't care. All I wish is women loved me intimately.
So you're a terminally online autist. Maybe just get a job and some hobbies to expand your social circle or something, will make you feel much better than this grindset.
Anyway what are you planning to grind towards?

>>22865998
NASA has been dead for a long time. It's easy when your the only game in town.

>>22865981
He managed to convince a fuckton of guillible investors to pour money into his dumbass ideas. If that isn't the purest distillation of the GRIND$ET I don't know what is.

>>22866129
nothing. informal logic is essential to success. it's so you don't fail bc bad logic.

>>22865998
Zoomers really don't know musk's history, huh? Space X was built on US tax dollars. Instead of free healthcare you pay to make a South African independently wealthy.
>but why
For the exact reason you made this thread. Fucking propaganda. NASA was relegated to pushing the diversity propaganda. Musk was created to give the government more distance to caery out their psyops through a "3rd party". If the government imposes a mandate and push for electric cars as a larger plan to limit mobility and control it encounters opposition. If whacky sexo car man "independently" popularizes EVs and normalizes them then the government quietly rolls out their planned legislation with less resistance.

You don't need to grind. You need to analyze.

>>22865960
>want to "do something so stubbornly to the point that your body and mine aré destroyed"
That's cool. Just, please, never say your on your "sigma grindset" or whatever, it's embarrasing. Anything else. Or simply omit the "sigma/alpha". The core idea is great, always has been, fighting for the impossible. But, people make fun of types like Andrew Tate because of all the pathetic garbage tacked on. He's a pimp who makes podcasts and struck a cord out of chance after the pandemic. I kind of respect him for sticking to it for many years (Drew Gooden has a video making fun of him from 2018), but it's all anger-bait and blaming the fucking Matrix.
Joe Rogan, the Rock, Ronaldo and Goggins are decent.

>>22866023
>he doesn't know
you can never leave, anon

>>22866182
>>22866192
This is true, but you seem to forget the middle ground and I'd highly recommend this having done so myself; Go for the grind, but only for a limited time (unless you're oldish already). That way, you will
1. Have a lot of stories to tell/be interesting
2. Be experienced in a lot of things
3. Have hardened yourself towards Stress
4. Know what you look for in life
5. Be able to concentrate on family after the grind
What first anon said is true. The only people remembering that you worked late will be your kids. This does not mean that you shouldn't grind hard at all. Dosage is the key.

>>22866100
Is someone capable of providing a synopsis of what one would learn from reading this?

>>22865960
If you have to ask, you'll never "get it". Sorry anon, not everyone is cut out for for laboring towards a univerally agreeable good. It's all about alligning your desire with your will towards something worthwhile and gratifying.

>>22866335
I ask again, grind towards what?

>>22866405
Irrelevant, my reply is goal-agnostic. Not irrelevant to OP though, obviously.

>>22865960
>This is a relatively new phenomenon
are you retarded?

>>22866338
you will learn all way people pull wool over your eyes and see through it so you don't get duped and fucked over.

>>22866468
Thank you, sounds like one could take away a few things from it.

>>22866461
If sigma grindset is not a new thing, post where else it was observed in the past? Also post books related to it?

>>22865960
no book necessary
it takes 2 things
1. get a job
2. go to church every sunday, not just the service but the sunday school and bible study stuff
A book won't give you anything unless it's the good book (the bible - any version)

>>22866182
I have been around a lot of death in my career and you are correct. I have comforted people in their 30s that are dying of some cancer or other and most of them are sad that they spent too much time away from their children or chose to work rather than travelling. I have never had someone lament the fact that they are poor, not once. The fact is that you will forget your miserable experience of grinding because by its nature you have to mentally fortify yourself to do it. Living a fulfilling life where you appreciate the cards you have been dealt and learn to live within your means will make you happier on your death bed and during the course of your life.

People keep saying to grind at your job, but what's the point of it if your hard work makes your bosses 100x more money than it does for you. It is better to grind at your independent side hustle and do the bare minimum at your actual job unless you are in public service profession.

>>22865993
Sounds like heaven to me but in order to make this happen I'd need at least 3mil or something

>>22866766
>sad that they [...] chose to work rather than travelling
Well duh, that's mostly because they were too poor. I grew up in a poor family and never had the opportunity to visit any places outside of my country until I started grinding to get sufficient money. The number one predictor for whether you will be successful is whether you come from a wealthy family. That is true for everyone I got to know with the exception of two people (excluding myself) and it's also true for businesses.
https://www.ctpublic.org/education/2019-05-15/georgetown-study-wealth-not-ability-the-biggest-predictor-of-future-success
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26154678
From this perspective, OP's >>22866192
>I'm doing it for them
is completely sensible and understandable, and a noble goal. He wants to sacrifice his (part of) his own happiness in order for his family to escape from the endless cycle of - I know, memespeak - wagecuckoldry.

>>22866870
>He wants to sacrifice his (part of) his own happiness in order for his family to escape from the endless cycle of - I know, memespeak - wagecuckoldry.
Because as we all know, you cannot be happy unless you are filthy rich.

>>22866870
>The number one predictor for whether you will be successful is whether you come from a wealthy family.
brutal but true

>>22866922
What a nonsense reply. I never implied anything remotely like that, actually the opposite.

>>22866922
this but unironically

>>22866922
>muh money can't buy happiness meme
It buys security and all the stuff that does make you happy. E.g., a house very far away from your stupid ass.

>>22865960
You just have to have it in you, b.

>>22866870
I wrote "chose to work" you goofy fellow. The people that I'm dealing with aren't exclusively poor or wealthy, it's a good mix of both. I agree with your point about being born into a wealthy family but I have met plenty of people from the professional classes that will often choose to keep working for whatever their personal reasons are rather than allocating time for their personal life and enjoyment. Even successful people waste their time grinding for a few extra thousand dollars, I think it's just human nature that people are mostly unable to reflect that they only have one life and will spend a disproportionate amount of time doing busywork.

>>22865960
>This is a relatively new phenomenon, so there might not be much research done on it
hahahahahahahahahaha i am surprised you are old enough to buy a pass.
people dedicating themselves to their work is nothing new.
Here's your whole book:
When you wake up tomorrow, start doing something towards your goal, do something on your grind. Find the next step: then take it. Make a plan, change it if necessary, write it down and pin it to your wall. Those are your new commandments. Take heed of your new religion.

>>22866864
yeah, tea and tobacco is so expensive now days

>>22866166
but fight club was anti capitalism and anti improvement

>>22865993
I kneel

>>22866922
Money is really important these days. To get good quality of anything, from food to healthcare.

>>22865960
You have to do something your obsessed with and fully commit.
My brother is a short dumpy guy who did this and ended up competing in world triathlon championships. It was super hard for him without the right body but he loved it and everything else in life came 2nd.
You dont know his name nobody will only a few ever become the top guys. So if you go this route you can end up 40 with no other skills, everyone hates you for ignoring them, no friends etc.
Id go with something you kind of liek but even if you dint fully succeed is good. Like become a property investor. That way even if you dont hit your goal of next Donald Trump you might end up with 10 properties or something.

>>22867042
Grindset isn't pro-capitalism. And blowing up credit card companies takes some grinding.

>>22868327
>My brother is a short dumpy guy who did this and ended up competing in world triathlon championships. It was super hard for him without the right body but he loved it and everything else in life came 2nd.
>You dont know his name nobody will only a few ever become the top guys. So if you go this route you can end up 40 with no other skills, everyone hates you for ignoring them, no friends etc.
How did he manage work, income and family stuff?

>>22866922
>t. spoiled middle class fag idolizing poverty

>>22866007
twinny dollas go spen one them fancy pickchus. sho mus be nice

>>22865960
Grab the first two Napalm Death records and Repulsion - Horrified. There, you have a starter grind set.

>>22868348
No captcha. An entire board for you that lasts for months.

>>22866682
>sigma grindset
>post where else it was observed in the past
literally all of human history?
People have been grinding since the dawn of our species and there have been many "sigma males". If you think people now just realized that of they grind they get what they want you are retarded.
As for literature the type you want truly is new, but the idea has always existed.
People nowadays can't figure it themselves

>>22868644
>literature the type you want truly is new, but the idea has always existed.
Post whatever books of the past you think are the closest to it?

>>22865960

Every man should read

Day 1: How to Have Parental Assets
Day 2: How to Avoid Labor Laws
Day 3: How to Evade Taxes
Day 4: How to Get Free Money from the Government
Day 5: How to Avoid Paying Debts
Day 6: How to Commit Fraud
Day 7: How to Commit Embezzlement
Day 8: How to Get Free Money from the Government Again
Day 9: How to Get a Driver's License Without Being Able to Read or Write
Day 10: How to Get Free Money from the Government for Doing Nothing but Failing
Day 11: How to Have a Reserve Army of Acquaintances to Blame for Your Lifelong Failure
Day 12: How to Steal from Your Employer
Day 13: How to Get Free Money from the Government Just for Breathing
Day 14: How to Steal from Your Employees
Day 15: How to Steal from Your Family
Day 16: How to Get Free Money from the Government (Second Edition)
Day 17: How to Bum a Cigarette
Day 18: How to Talk Your Neighbors into Removing Their Surveillance Cameras
Day 19: How to Get More Free Money from the Government

>>22865960
"a relatively new phenomenon" what about the martyrs or every soldier who's ever died

>>22865960
I find the real benefit of these books is motivation, none of the information is all that novel or helpful. If you want something, do what it takes to get it, and don't wait until conditions are right. Like someone else here said, wake up and do it for the whole day. If you want to be self-destructive about it, don't eat or sleep for 2 days, just push yourself brutally. People will say this is stupid and not optimal, but sometimes this sort of mentality of self-denial is exactly what you need to do. Some people thrive when they do things in a structured way, they do well in routine, but others like myself need to go all the way right from the beginning or it never starts. I've done this in World Of Warcraft when I farmed a dungeon mount I wanted, I did it in League of Legends when I wanted to reach a certain rank, I did in in StarCraft II, I did it when learning languages, I did it for fitness, I did it in a job, without fail these times in my life have been the absolute best and most interesting, when I stopped caring about my health and just hauled ass. I would go to school, do after school study until 8pm, then walk to the gym in the dark and work out exhausted until 10pm. I'd go home and make whatever food I had in the simplest way possible, almost always chicken and rice, and I'd just collapse onto my bed. Doing this 5-6 days a week put me in a soldierly mindset.

Books I'd recommend are Think & Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins, The Power Of Now by Eckhart Tolle, How To Fail At Almost Everything and Still Win Big by Scott Adams, Atomic Habits by James Clear, and Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. These were mostly the books I used to read when I was big into the grindset, although this was before it became a thing, and since then I've become more religious and would substitute some of these for The Bible, C.S Lewis' Mere Christianity and other devotional works

>>22868797
They were grinding?

>>22865960
any 21st century self-help book.

>>22865960
Incredible, each and every person in this image is a disgusting, soulless materialist.

>>22865993
based

>>22868661
Meditations Marcus aurelius
only one I can think of

>>22865960
>working yourself to death is a relatively new phenomenon

>>22866019
Can't find this on Zlib or libgen
Can someone post link?

>>22869015
I mean, it's there but in an unreadable pdf format scanned from google

>>22865981
He works all day on vidya Twitter Tesla and space x and procreating gets like 4 hours of sleep

>>22865960
Where is Michael Jordan in pic rel?

Every dude I know on this grindset bullshit just sits around smoking cigars drinking bourbon talking about “muh grind” and “doing the work” but never actually doing anything.

>>22865960
>Books on how to develop a grindset?
NONE.

YOU GRIND.

STOP WASTING GRIND TIME.

https://youtu.be/8ES6YSmmRgA

>>22869283

>>22865993
>Apparently, Kant had formulated the maxim for himself that he would smoke only one pipe, but it is reported that the bowls of his pipes increased considerably in size as the years went on.
Literally the "just 1 cup of coffee" facebook meme my mom loves

>>22868895
How are Goggins, Tyler1, Ronaldo and the band guy from Whiplash souless materialists?

>>22868917
In the past people did it to earn money. But right now they are doing it for pride and satisfaction, atleast some of them in OP's list.

>>22867015
I was thinking more of the servant, house and not working

>>22869271
Jordan retired 20 yrs ago. Those in the pic are the current grindset leaders. Does LeBron grind?

Steroids

>>22869525
You can't talk about grindset without MJ, no matter if its' current or past, grinding is grinding.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2t4RVg_Yq2g&pp=ygUZTWljaGFlbCBqb3JkYW4gcGVyc29uYWxseQ%3D%3D

You need a few screws loose to reach what people like MJ did. Doubt this guy ever needed advice on how to get motivated, or how to do something. He just couldn't imagine a world in which he didn't

>>22869690
Goggins was a fat loser according to himself, before he just snapped one day and completely dedicated himself for some unknown reason.

Post more grindset books?

>>22869753
That's pretty cool. I thought he was a war vet with a few bad years before becoming a SEAL.

>>22869754
The Alter Ego Effect: The Power of Secret Identities to Transform Your Life

>>22865993
>Kant was proud that he never got up even half an hour late, even though he found it hard to get up early.

>>22865960
This is a personality trait, if you're looking to develop a grindset life, then you don't heve it. You need to be disagreeable, narcissistic, high taak salience while also getting bored quickly and have charisma. You can't read a book and become Dwayne Johnson, these people are who they are from the get go and I'm tired of pretending in another noble lie to the contrary.

Unironically Evola's Ride the Tiger. However if your soul (if it even exists) isn't able to bear such weight, you will only achieve despair.

>>22865993
This is the ideal.

>>22870200
>>22865993
based kant

>>22870652
why are chuddins so obsessed with bodily discpline? can't you just learn to live your life? i guess this is what fascism does to your brain

>>22867007
Life is all about what you choose to do with your time. And stop pretending, it doesn't really matter. One life is never better than another one. Suffering might be less, but that's it. It eventually won't matter.

>>22870659
No one says that.

>>22865960
you don't need a book, you need:
>daily checklists, with time schedules
>set goals for what you want to accomplish
>check to see if you are on schedule to meet those goals

>>22870701
You sound very depressed, I would recommend vitamin D and an internet detox.

I am afraid of attempting to do anything even remotely challenging without amphetamines. I have relied on them for emotional support for over 10 years.

>>22871112
isn't there a fair risk that you will go insane as a side effect? also won't it destroy your teeth? if i ever get into work drugs i'm just go with cocaine, but now you get dickheads putting fentanyl in the shit so you can't even trust that.

>>22871116
Nah, it’s a relatively harmless drug in terms of physical detriment, especially at moderate doses. The problem is that it can easily lead to psychological dependence because it helps make boring and tedious things *significantly* more tolerable and sometimes even enjoyable. This can make it so that it’s easier for you to get things done without having to exert lots of effort, but with the trade off of attributing the completion of the task at hand to being high on the drug rather than due to personal competence.

There is a performance drop that comes with it, though, because it makes you fidgety and prone to involuntary movements. It can also make it very difficult to switch tasks, which can lead to counter-intuitive amounts of effort on something that your sober mind would have otherwise deemed to be complete.

Relentless by Tim Grover.

This book is more targeted at athletes but it is such a good read if you want to get motivated.

The author was the personal trainer of Michael Jordan, amongst other high profile basketball players, and he basically advocates taming your worst qualities and using them to become the best.

no joke at one point he implies the reason Tiger woods is so good at golf is because he is the type of person who would cheat on his wife.

>>22871339
>no joke at one point he implies the reason Tiger woods is so good at golf is because he is the type of person who would cheat on his wife.
I find this sort of out-of-the-box thinking to be pretty interesting because I can sort of appreciate how they would relate, but could you expand on it in any case?

>>22871344
The best explanation of it is to consider jekyl and hyde. everyone has their own hyde inside of them and you could either let him come out by force and ruin your life or you could direct him to areas of your life he could help you completely dominate.

>>22870950
How to maximize output though?

>>22865960
>I need self acfualized people to actualize me
you are not smart enough to amount to anything

>>22871678
So, you are saying you are?

>>22871693

yeah, people that can actually accomplish things don't waste their time reading a book about accomplishing things which will tell you to stop reading books and go accomplish something, which should have been your first course of action if you were capable of it

>>22871695
>t. got his info from Andrew Tate or some other half-literate mutt

I have been doing 4 hours of language immersion every day
I have done literally nothing else but read and make anki cards and I feel so disciplined right now

>>22871929
I have never read a single self help book or followed some e-grifter you projecting loser. that is the while point of my post.

>>22866043
Pimps have grindset tho. Have sex incel

>>22867007
Good advice. Personally I work a good and easy job but live literally next door to family and visit my mom every week (I live in Italy).
Can't imagine how people in other cities or countries might feel. But then again, not my problem

>>22870659
Bodily discipline is great and boosts health and helps live your life, the issue here is that online fascists are concerned with homoerotic aesthetics instead of actually getting tougher.

>>22865960
Bump
T1 is a lowlife addict btw, and Rogan is a jobber. The Rock is also a quasi-jobber celebrity actor

Atomic Habits

>>22872099
Kek, your point was that successful people don't read books about achieving things, when multiple people with actual success (not just half-literate normgroid athletes and musicians who can't read anyways) have come out and told them certain self-help and self-help adjacent books helped them out in their thinking.
>Warren Buffet mentions How to Win Friends and Influence people constantly
>Bill Clinton claims to re-read Meditations every year
>Bill Gates, Zuckerberg and Bezos all talk about self help books they've read in their blogs or interviews
>infinite cases of people modelling aspects of their routines after other successful people before the self-help genre started
It's really just cynical faggots that think success stories are just block-headed morons working 20 hrs a day with no external method or frame of mind, or influences.

>>22866010
Try to get rid of your ideological chains. Your antipathy is petty and purely political.

>>22865960
Just listen to the song “push it to the limit” from scarface soundtrack on loop

>>22872534
Thats montage music.

*This* is grind music. Meat grind.

https://youtu.be/VHhtbAWrDSk

>>22872134
>T1 is a lowlife addict btw
Addicted to what? If you mean grinding, then that is what this thread is about.

>>22865993
Fun fact: he wasnt always like this. Kant used to party hard back when he was younger.

>>22869015
It's on Anna's Archive

>>22865960
Ronaldo is the only person in that picture with a "sigma grindset". The other men are grifters.

>>22872605
I guess heroin addicts are just grinders then

>>22865960
6 of those men are completely bald and the other 2 are notorious for getting cosmetic work and hair transplants in, so there's your secret.

Greek or Roman literature about grinding?

>>22866225
Why didn't you do it then?

>>22866182
This is false and you sound like a gigantic faggot.

>>22866722

>>22873743
Bump for this

>>22866722
That sounds gay

>>22872620
Too tall. He was a midget.

>>22873427
Tyler1 is a heroin addict?

>>22865993
I find it cute that he had a best friend like that

>>22865960
I respect T1 the most. The absolute autistic commitment to get good at something by investing subhuman levels of time into it is commendable.

>>22869022
My guy is level 100 in diablo 4 as a fucking druid (non seasonal). Trust me he has more time than you think.

>>22873865
Why do you think the only dudes doing it are Elon and Jeff? The start up cost for a rocket company is fucking massive.

"Gogetters" grind themselves against their chains.