/lit/ - Literature

>>22790849
How are you still alive?

lol what's your alma mater? what undergrad degree did you do? what's your masters in? also you forgot to say books for this feel

>>22790849
It will just get worse

>>22790849
>When will be my turn to be on top?
you can take your 15 minutes of fame by force like many a chud before you

>>22790849
>I have no woman, I have no house, I have money and live paycheck to paycheck. I WILL be on top once I save up for my cottage.

FTFY

>>22790857
>alma mater
I don't know what that is.
>undergrad degree
I don't understand
>masters in
I don't have that
>books for this feel
I don't care anymore, it's over for me isn't it?

>>22790849
waging is in my future and of course my job is making people smile
some humble observer seeing how much stress you can take

college is a scam they said
so you went to plumbing school
now you unclog toilets all day
you did it to yourself

>>22790889
who's to say he doesn't have a meme degree? college only isn't a scam for a handful of professions and then only if it's a cheap school or you aren't paying

>>22790849
The power is in your hands, you can lie down and give up and take the initiative and get there yourself.

>>22790860
damn. how does dosto manage to slap so fricking hard everytiem

I'm 32, spent 5 years needing, work a shitty no skill job, still on track to retire at 45.

Maybe geomax?

>>22790954
It's Celine, no?

>>22790967

No words of encouragement from me anon

I too reached 39 I can tell you the truth

Is the end of the road, they want all your work and money and don't anything for you

>>22790967
you...thought...that...was...celine?

Turn to God Anon. Only God's love can keep us in this viel of sorrows. I've had money and women, that doesn't bring lasting joy either.

Why do you focus on being on top? You should long for a society where not being on top means you still have something to live for. You should want to find the balance between work and happiness, not to be set free from work.

>>22790849
Sorry but you missed your chance. I'm 29 and I missed it too. Best you can do is undermine the society that did this to you in every way possible. Be as racist and misogynistic as you can be

>>22790999
Lol

Give to the down on their luck so they have no chance to ever learn

I giving them knowledge this is how society acts in empirical practice towards 39 years olds

>>22790849
Who is ever "on top," really? Regardless, you're not getting anywhere near the top at this point. Sorry man, best learn to enjoy what you can in life.

>>22791015
Demotivation..

He can do anything he wants, what he can't is change the way society takes him for granted

>>22790849
I am 25 and all I have is a great career, money, and family. No sex for me. But I find it hard to imagine why people life paycheck to paycheck. I live in NYC and after three years of working have saved and invested my way into $180k

>>22791051
Send me $20k or I'll kill myself

>>22790849
>When is this nightmare over bros?
When you lie dying

>>22791057
Do it

>>22791045
>He can do anything he wants
We all know that isn't true

>>22791061
Alright see you in hell

>>22791067
Keep a seat warm for me

>>22791057
>>22791067
I make $20k a month. You basically are asking me to work my ass off for a month str8 to prevent you from killing yourself. This is why I hate poors. I once had a low level dumb as shit wagie whom I managed asked me in all seriousness for 1,000 bucks, when he found out how much I made and had saved up. Nigga, you are asking me to give you 24 hours of my life for free. He didn’t understand the concept. “But you already have the money?”

>>22791085
>But you already have the money?
Unironically. Do a good deed and give him the money

>>22791089
No. If he wants 20k he can lend me his mom or sister or gf for a month.

>>22791085
>You basically are asking me to work my ass off for a month str8 to prevent you from killing yourself
And unless you want my blood on your hands you'll do it

>>22791090
And see this sort of crass misogyny is why you aren't having sex

>>22791090
A woman isn't worth 20k, maybe 20$ if she can suck

>>22791097
Who cares about sex, we have money

>>22791106
He (you?) brought it up first

>>22791119
Not me
>>22791097
I get happy ending massages all the time. High quality ones, not the Asian grandma ones. I like it more than sex (which I’ve had) because I’m not expected to pleasure her (which makes me anxious)

>>22791097
And I resent the misogyny label, if I liked penis I would happily accept OP as my cum dumpster. But I don’t. If anything valuing a month of a woman’s time at 20k and a month of a man’s time at 0 dollars is anti-misogyny

>>22791119
Not me, that's why I said we instead of I, because I am not the new yorker

>>22790860
>it's an exrreme old age
>8 months to go
Rip...might well call it a night.

>>22790849
>I have no money
>paycheck to paycheck

Have you tried getting rid of all of your bills?

>>22790849
Hey there london frog.

I think 40 was an old age, but it’s not any more and the literature world is craving for a solid work of literature from a mature man that is actually good, should that task interest you. After all, Vodolazkin was nearly 50 when he published Laurus. He was a mildly successful academic at that point, but he need not have been. That’s probably the best book published in the last two decades. Point being, there’s opportunity out there for age. There’s a story to be told that’s not being told. Even this thread is testament to that.

>>22790999
That would be better, but such progress is accomplished only in the time scale of epochs. Progress is chaotic, often involving backsliding. Perhaps there truly is some sort of dialectical progression towards a freer and better society across human history. Perhaps a process akin to natural selection works on societies. Those which are freer develop and implement technologies faster, allowing them to survive and best their opponents.

But there is also always the threat of decadence and decay. Rulers not unified against some exterior threat quickly turn to plundering the internal riches. You see it in Rome after the Second Pubic War and you see it in the US after the Cold War. Movements toward equality occur spasmodicly throughout history, often due to great cataclysms, often with the wave receding as soon as it breaks — maybe the tide is a little higher, but there is rollback all the same. There are your daily high tides and your monthly ones after all.

Is mankind in its adolescence or its old age? It is hard to tell. We do seem to have hit a growth spurt. Perhaps maturity is to come, but only after crisis.

But for us individuals, all there we can do is seek shelter in wisdom. The world is harsh. Its pains outweigh its pleasures. The young man in his strength is old and bent eventually. Even the rich aren't happy. If anything, they seem particularly ill, particularly vulnerable to decadence and moral rot.

There is nothing new under the sun. All rivers flow into the sea but it is never full. All is vanity and chasing after wind.

The wise man seeks to escape finitude, not to store it up for himself. He steps off the hedonic treadmill and kneels before the transcendent. Our lives only have meaning if they are free and we are only free if we are not ruled over by desire, instinct, and circumstance. Only the Logos can unite our divided souls and make us truly self-moving, souls that act for reasons they can fathom.

The world is a ladder to the divine, but we must climb. Who shall climb? The man with clean hands and pure heart, undivided against himself.

I'm 41 and same position. It's absolutely over.

Not being a loser is easy.
>be me, born to obscure east euro country to an alcoholic and a cleaning lady
>worked construction during highschool
>experienced construction worker before i even finished highschool, exploiting construction booms financed my uni
>at uni (physics), worked as welder and electrician (learned these trades at construction sites)
>25 years old (yeah i studied physics longer than 4 years), worked nightshift as electrician at the food factory, studied all that time for my masters, maintenance tech, piss easy
>factory full of women
>had lots of sex, saved lots of money, bought 0 gucci lattes or face tattoos or whatever the fuck you imbeciles do with your paychecks
>almost 30 now
>got my masters degree in physics
>~100k$ in snp500 type funds (broad, diversified, steady, reliable, 0 currency speculation, 0 shitcoins etc)
>scientific/lab software type job in a first world country
>own real estate
>not even 30, reminder
>never owned a car because cars are for retards
>protein is my biggest expenditure, also started paying for pools and gyms and so on because its a social type thing for me, also built numerous home gyms
>spent ~50k$ on hobbies such as amateur radio, precision machining, home lathes and steel mills, diodes, sensors, potentiometers, rheostats, inductors, capacitors, infrared and photodiodes, electronics of all kinds
>built small scale amateur robots (that cant do anything yet lmao), unlocking doors via phone, automatic plant watering system, built my own vacuum cleaner, bunch of small time projects

Its all about skills. Marketable, employable or even academic skills. Push ups. Pull ups. Math. Electronics. Chemistry. Anything like that. Knew this since I was 12. The key is to never stagnate. Cant ever allow yourself to stagnate. Cant ever stop doing or learning new things.
Live like this, and there is no way you can ever be a failure.

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>>22791271

THE ETERNAL SCHOPENHAUERIAN WISDOM


I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.