/lit/ - Literature

>>22754024
Filtered.

>>22754024
it wasn't very good so i bailed. I don't think the chans are the place for serious discussion

>>22754024
The critique is light reading. No need for a reading group to baby you. You can read it in a week if you’re not retarded.

>>22754058
terrible bait

>>22754057
>i bailed
were you the OP?

THEY GOT HURT BY THE GNOME

>>22754101
Nta nor OP but in defense of Kantposter (I just assumed the read along was him could be wrong) most of the philosophers talked about on here were critical of Kant so most philosophy posters here are likely to share those views, couple this with the fact that the CPR is still a viable filter for most readers and you are looking at a wicked uphill battle.

>>22754274
>in defense of Kantposter (I just assumed the read along was him could be wrong)
wasn't me. I know better.

>Philosophy is, by its very nature, something esoteric, neither made for the vulgar as it stands [für sich], nor capable of being got up to suit the vulgar taste

>>22754024
they weren't too reasonable

>>22754024
>Critique of Pure Reason
>Is actually a praise of pure reason
Wtf was this guy's problem? Nothing he says is even close to accurate. Not even the title.

>>22754496
did you even read it? I mean, he even tells what he means by "critique".

>>22754481
Well spoken, as usual, I should have known better.

>>22754057
>I don't think the chans are the place for serious discussion
where go then? University too expensive and I have to work so can't attend during work hours.

I'd like to imagine this board could host a reading club for the Phenomenology of Spirit someday but I think the best time for that might have been 10 years ago.

>>22754721
In no way whatsoever will this ever happen

>>22754496
The first 300 pages where he does the transcendental deduction are about the understanding, not reason. He does masturbate the understanding but then totally annihilates reason.

>>22754733
>The first 300 pages
I don't think many make it that far

>>22754740
Kant doesn’t make it easy. It would probably be only 300 pages long if literally anyone else wrote it.

>>22754726
An anon can dream.

>>22754798
>I very soon became aware of the magnitude of my task, and the numerous problems with which I should be engaged; and, as I perceived that this critical investigation would, even if delivered in the driest scholastic manner, be far from being brief, I found it unadvisable to enlarge it still more with examples and explanations, which are necessary only from a popular point of view. I was induced to take this course from the consideration also that the present work is not intended for popular use, that those devoted to science do not require such helps, although they are always acceptable, and that they would have materially interfered with my present purpose.
I don't believe anyone else could have it shorter.

b

Philosophy isn't literature.

>>22756025
yes it is

There's no (pure) reason to read it. I Kant stand it.

>>22756028
Ok, read this:
I fuck your mother.
this is very insightful

>>22756025
Alright, that post made me leave forever. Thank you buddy.

>>22756033
kys ahmed

>>22756028
It fucking shouldn't be. Nondeterministic immaterial philosophy must perish.

I dream of Kant and his stupid lecture hall surrounded and set ablaze by Prussian artillery.

>>22756053
seethe more midwit

also Kant was Prussian and they loved him retard

>>22754845
>In the interest of brevity, I have omitted the examples that readers of popular works may have come to expect and rely upon.
Yeah nobody could possibly have put a point more concisely than him

There should be a new thread on Monday. However, the more I read, the more I think reading it in German should be easier. If Monday's gonna be interesting, I might continue, otherwise I will just start improving my German, read the Prolegomena and then jump into the Critique.

>>22756298
r u the reading group OP?

>>22756369
No, man.

I am still doing it and tried to spam the threads with a few of the things that helped unlock my understanding of Kant. But no one was really talking or asking questions beyond that, and I forgot to check the thread for a day or two. I didn't want to spam any further with my personal shower thoughts about a book I've read several times because I didn't want to overwhelm others, I already worried my initial posts did this even though I had good intentions.

>>22757247
>a book I've read several times
was picrel you?

>>22757290
No I was the one sperging about how you ought to understand Kant's perception of contemporary science to understand what his goals were, and I also got into a discussion with another anon about the moderate realist interpretation of Kant.

>>22754721
An actual reading group for the Phenomenology just had its first session this Friday. You didn't miss any content since everyone just introduced themselves and we talked about which translation to use (decided on the Pinkard one). Not sure if you can still join, but it's the one by the University of Lisbon.

>>22757335
on /lit/?

>>22757335
I don't think I could read the PoS with a bunch of well meaning normies coming at it from a thousand different angles, 80% of them mostly because of its meme status, another 10% as leftists who only know it through fags like Pinkard, and maybe 10% actually remotely metaphysically and phenomenologically sensitive. I would claw my eyes out.

>>22757379
At the very least I would use the % of women in the group to gauge the seriousness and potential of the group. (The only acceptable % is 0.)

>>22754590
The ideal place would be old style forums. I think a place like this could have some worthwhile reading groups, but I think it could only be successful with works that are much shorter and more digestible than Kant's Critiques.

>>22754590
>University too expensive
such a shame but some professors let you audit for freee

>>22757379
In that case it's better you stay away. You seem insufferable.

>>22757359
No, the meeting was online on Google meet.

>>22757399
Yes but I understand Hegel. At the end of the day you have to decide whether you prefer the company of autistic elitists or normie woman dabblers. I have made my choice.

>>22754024
they started reading it and realized it was shit

>>22757404
I see. The thing is though that the autistic elitists hardly ever get something done. At least all the reading groups on here don't seem to last long or don't seem very productive.

>>22757416
>autistic elitists hardly ever get something done
anon, they are the ones that actually write the books

>>22757386
Based

>>22757404
anon was picrel you from the Hegel thread?

>>22757433
These are the real ones though usually in an academic context and are happy to share their knowledge. I'm talking about the ones posting on /lit/. Of course there might be an intersection of the two, but it seems small.

>>22757493
>there might be an intersection of the two, but it seems small.
you'd be surprised

>>22757493
I completed my habilitation on the retroactive ramifications of Fechner's psychphysics on the Kantian concept of a priori intuition and I come here for the lulz.

>>22757335
Thanks, I'll think about it.
>>22757528
Neat, mind talking about it a little more?

>>22757528
Happy to be proven wrong. I'm also in academia (about to start my PhD), but a lot of discussions on here quickly devolve into insulting each other and not engaging with each other. Sadly I have no clue about your research since my focus is mostly (analytic) ontology, mereology and logic, but it sounds interesting.

>>22757528
Link thesis or give recs, I want to understand James' admiration for Fechner. Best book on Fechner's fondness for Naturphilosophie?

>>22757575
Pitt, w/ Fine?

J/w, not fishing.

>>22757644
No, but that would have been pretty great. I wanted to stay in Europe and decided on the Humboldt.

>>22759104
>Humboldt
Is it good? What about the city?

>>22759685
I'd say it's pretty good, probably not as good as Pittsburgh though. It's the Humboldt University in Berlin and I really like the city but I know quite some people don't.

>>22759872
Nice. Good luck, anon. I really liked Berlin about 10 years ago, but I heard it's changed a lot since then. I'm not sure how I'd feel about it now.

>>22760203
>heard it's changed a lot since then
like what?

>>22760281
Rents skyrocketed; it's ridiculously difficult to find a room; Lebanese and Syrian mafia. Germany overall seems to have worsened.

>>22761578
Also, perhaps most importantly, Berlin seems to have lost a lot of its character and become like most major European capitals.