/lit/ - Literature

>>22733782
>best argument for there being a God?

- Cosmological fine-tuning: According to our best physics, the chances of the constants aligning in a way that creates a life-permitting habitat seem to be roughly comparable to someone winning the lottery 100 times in a row. "Very unlikely" would be a MASSIVE understatement. Obviously theists think that a designer is the best explanation for that data

/lit/ - christcuckery and theology

>>22733782
you can only dox yourself

>>22733784
>>22733786
go fuck a horse pagan

>>22733787
go slurp more rabbi semen, christcuck

>>22733790
kys you faggot

>>22733782
"Out in the mindless void the daemon bore me,
Past the bright clusters of dimensioned space,
Till neither time nor matter stretched before me,
But only Chaos, without form or place.
Here the vast Lord of All in darkness muttered
Things he had dreamed but could not understand,
While near him shapeless bat-things flopped and fluttered
In idiot vortices that ray-streams fanned.

They danced insanely to the high, thin whining
Of a cracked flute clutched in a monstrous paw,
Whence flow the aimless waves whose chance combining
Gives each frail cosmos its eternal law.
“I am His Messenger,” the daemon said,
As in contempt he struck his Master’s head."

>>22733783
The fine-tuning argument is the TELEOLOGICAL argument, brainlet. Also its just survivorship bias.

>>22733782
Have fun, OP, good look:
> ht tps:// page.mi.fu-berlin.de/cbenzmueller/papers/C40.pdf

Otherwise, the big bang must have been caused by something, which must have been caused by something else, etc etc ad infinitum, which isn't really physically feasible. Something must have created the first thing. Thus, it only makes sense that the first thing was created by something outside of our dimension that mustn't abide by its rules of reaction.

>>22733980
this

>>22733782
His Spirit living inside of me. The journey He takes you on once He’s in you is incredible - scriptural understanding, the peace, love and joy, the burning in he chest, the tongues prayer language, hearing His voice, seeing God in a dream, the healings I’m seeing when I lay hands. It all stems from having the Spirit of God...

>>22733782
Demanding arguments for the existence of God is inherently nonsensical without a critical examination of our faculties and capacities, which could produce such arguments. Kant famously demonstrated with his antinomies of pure reason that the true scandal of dogmatic metaphysics is not a lack of good arguments, but rather their exact abundance. One could, for example, construct forceful arguments not only for the existence of a necessary being but also for its non-existence. Pure reason is deadlocked, and how about empiric examinations?

Do you really think one could find God under some old rock? Or induce his all-great existence from our limited point of view? No, Kant acted correctly in putting God beyond the category of reason and into the category of hope and faith.
This is not a Kantian insight, though, Blaise Pascal already discovered how lost our faculties are between the infinity of the universe and the infinity of the never reachable smallest thing. Reason is not even deadlocked; it is blinded by the horror of its inadequacy for the cosmos it is suspended in.

The question of God's existence is instead a truth of the heart, before and beyond reason, like the two infinities that, that was gifted to us by God himself and remains accessible not by reason but instead by the "esprit de finesse", our ability to engage with things without the restricting formal corset of reason.

>>22733980
Our conceptualization of time could be wrong and that would undermine the cause/effect relationships described by such an argument.

>>22733980
>Otherwise, the big bang must have been caused by something, which must have been caused by something else, etc etc ad infinitum, which isn't really physically feasible
A circle is akshually a line and must have had a starting point somewhere, yes-yes.

>caused by
constrainted by
>something
topology

>Thus, it only makes sense that the first thing was created by something outside
but the retard once again tries to smuggle agency and intentionality into it.

>>22733980
this

>>22733782
If god doesn't exist, everything is permitted

>"because i say so"

>>22734321
are you sure

>>22733782
There is no society built without the concept of one

>>22734409
yes. without a god my statement is permitted

>>22734321
Not an argument

>>22734706
God might allow evil to happen in order for good to prevail