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>>22729490
>The Way of a Pilgrim, or The Pilgrim's Tale, is the English title of a 19th-century Russian work, recounting the narrator's journey as a mendicant pilgrim while practicing the Jesus Prayer. The pilgrim's travels take him through southern and central Ukraine, Russia, and Siberia. It is unknown if the book is literally an account of a single pilgrim, or if it uses a fictional pilgrim's journey as a vehicle to teach the practice of ceaseless inner prayer and communion with God
interesting... sounds comfy

>>22729126
To be fair, it's a very early work of futurism.

>>22729134
Highly accurate.

Tikhanov shill thread

>>22729126
Luckily I was into that shit

love jesus

>>22729188
Is it recomendable though?

let's get this one out of the way

>>22730233
Lmao

>>22729134
kek best one in thread

>>22729134
So where do I start with this trilogy? Epictetus, Seneca or Marcus Aurelius

>>22730902
I think Epictetus was the most accessible and definitely the most practical

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>>22730820
samefag

>>22730386
I liked it. Some very quotable sections, and Alioshin was a true soldier who wasnt timid to criticize atrocities on his own side or admire the bravery of his soviet enemies. In my opinion its a much better book than Men Beasts Gods, for dealing with the same subject matter

>>22730986
Thanks, I'll probably get it. I was always interested in the russian civil war and I was looking for something that included Sternberg.

>>22731200
I highly recommend it, especially as a primary source on Sternberg. There was a thread about the book a while back you might enjoy:
>>/lit/thread/22592749

The author himself is kind of a mystery as well. Nobody seems to know what happened to him after the war, although i found an obituary claiming he died in California in his late 80s. Apparently some of his relatives are still alive but ibe been unable to contact them so far.

>>22729126
Someone explain to me exactly what is futurism art about
Futurism itself I get it but the art is mostly vague compilations of "thing goes fast" concepts; yet futurism itself isn't exactly about merely going fast

>>22731339
Thanks again. The quotes in the thread are really interesting already. Do you have any other russian civil war books to recommend?

>>22730979
newfag

>>22730233
Is it really like that? Got my curiosity up

>>22731470
It's literally 1,000+ pages of that, non-stop. I'd alter the meme to add shitty mills and boon romance covers on "what I got" as well, because Atlas Shrugged really is like a harem anime.

>>22729881
Is that the international title? In Bongland it’s Horus Rising

>>22730278
Who?

>>22731598
Sick. Its added to my list.

>>22731674
That's a lazy one

>>22730966
Is the crying wojak with the Chad face VRT pretending to be Marsch?

>>22732133
Yes it is!

>>22732122
>Lazy
I prefer "to the point." You don't need like fifty images to tell that joke, anyways.

>>22732215
How am i supposed to know if something is funny if it isn't surrounded in reaction images?

>>22732275
kek

>>22732263
I legitimately could not think of a better summary myself. Good job, Anon.

>>22731553
Should include an image of Darwin too lol

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>>22729134
lol

>>22730233
KEK

>>22731417
>Do you have any other russian civil war books to recommend?
Not directly about the Russian civil war, but Blood and Oil in the Orient is a great read about how the communist revolution affected the surrounding countries such as Azerbaijan, Georgia, etc.

It was written by an Azerbaijani refugee who had a fairly tragic life himself, and reads like a mixture of tall tales, legends, bs that he invented on the spot, and anthropology. Highly recommend it.

>>/lit/thread/22609646

>>22731674
heh

>>22732522
Does a proper translation exist?

>>22732664
Not yet. Im on chapter six now but its an extremely dense book. He plays a lot with Hegelian vocabulary that doesnt easily translate into english, and there are a lot of nods to classical chinese poetry that got missed with the DeepL translation. Hoping to get it out before Q2 of next year, but I cant make any promises.

https://tikhanovlibrary.com/america-against-america.html

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>>22732442
Okay, so are both of you from the shitty "indie press" that made those old threads to shill their fuckawful repackaged versions of public domain books? Your covers are complete ass, your website is somehow even worse, and your shilling is obvious. Please fuck off.

>>22732805
>you can ONLY discuss PENGUIN RANDOM HOUSE on my sekret literature board
Fuck off nerd

>>22732522
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>>22732767
Jesus, hadn't seen you yet. Fuck off shill. How come every single one of your books has such fucking shit cover design? Like holy shit you can't even read the text on them. Book binders my ass.

And after looking at your website I'm realising you made this entire thread. I hope you fuck off and die. At least your cover of the OP book is passable, so I'll give you that.

>>22732871
These faggots (you?) have been on here shilling for months pretending it's natural discourse. They're in it to make a buck off people buying their awful copies of books that are in the public domain, excepting maybe the work of "the world's foremost philosopher" fucking Nobody Wang.

Not only that, but they spout some shit about selling "hand-bound editions of literary classics", when every print option on their website is done by fucking Lulu. They can eat dick.

>>22732891
I'm not the same guy lol. I'm just genuinely interested in Huning for quite some time already because I have read some articles about him but none of his works seem to have been translated into any of the European languages.

I get agree with you that the thread's purpose seems to be marketing though. I won't pay for a cheaply printed fan translation.

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>>22732805
>They're in it to make a buck off people buying their awful copies of books that are in the public domain, excepting maybe the work of "the world's foremost philosopher" fucking Nobody Wang
You forgot to mention my Alexis de Tocqueville translation. Or my Gilles translation. Or my Harukichi Shimoi translation (dont look for this its crap and ive got a new edition in the works which will be much better).
Wang Huning is Xi's top guy btw. Even Zizek was hyping him up a while back.

>At least your cover of the OP book is passable,
Thanks

>Not only that, but they spout some shit about selling "hand-bound editions of literary classics",
Thats fair. When it started i was getting into book binding and jewelery so i had an idea of making fancy art books with faceted gemstones and silver/gold detailing, but im extremely poor so i decided to move to mexico and go all in on the publishing side until i have the funds for a proper workshop. Ill fix that next time i update the site.

>>22732925
>a cheaply printed fan translation.
Jeez you guys. Its the same quality as any major publishing house. I used to work in a print shop i wouldnt fuck you over like that. Outsorcing print jobs is common practice in the industry.

>>22732925
Sorry, homie. But yeah, don't send your money to these guys. It looks like they have a partial translation on their Substack, which is what you get when you click "ebook" on their website (lame). If that ever gets completed, I'd rip it in full; you can put your own files onto a site like Lulu if you're desperate for a print copy. I'm also noticing now how their cover for it is a cheap rip-off of the real one.

>>22732936
>admitting you're shilling
Nice one.

Again, please fuck off with the duplicitous shilling. If your work isn't just machine-translated trash, at least be honest when you advertise it on here; say you (admit it's you) have translated something into English for the first time and see if people are interested. The last thing this place needs is another fag trying to make a buck by samefagging endlessly hoping for fools to pass by.

And please do something about your covers. Going the Gallimard route and nailing a consistent design would be miles better than the unreadable shit you're wrapping around these things. Your yellow covers are okay-ish, so start there. Make sure people can actually read the text well without having to fucking squint.

>>22732957
>i wouldnt fuck you over like that
Saying "hand bound" then dumping it off on Lulu is exactly that, even if only fools won't notice

And are these just machine-translated? because it looks you're translating from French, Italian, and Chinese at the very least. I'm not actually going to believe you if you said you did it all yourself considering you've proven yourself to be a vapid liar.

Anyway, quit being a retard.

>>22732957
Also, concerning "fan translation", academics like Timothy Cheek did whole podcast circuts and didnt even notice that one of the most commonly used terms in AAA is a direct Chinese equivalent of Hegel's "giest", or that he wrote an entire chapter on the American heartlands which was mistranslated as "vernacular landscapes", or that he wrote another chapter about Max Weber which was similarily mistranslated, or that he mentions Gustav Le Bon's "The Crowd" which is also missed. And thats not even getting into all the literary flourishes and dropping couplets from Chinese poetry that are skipped over. Timothy Cheek says that the DeepL translation is "good enough". Ive spent years of my life crawling into Wang Huning's head and we have a similar background in french literature studies. Without any exageration im probably the #1 scholar on Wang Huning in the western word. If i wanted to make a quick buck i would have published the deep L translation thats selling on Amazon now.

>>22733047
>If i wanted to make a quick buck i wouldn't be stealth-shilling on /lit/ for months
ok retard

>>22733047
You can call me "reddit" or whatever you like but I am usually skeptical of translators without proper credentials. Sorry if you're actually that good and I am being needlessly rude, I just think that your obvious shilling and defensiveness is a bit irritating.

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>>22732263
heh

>>22731637
Crusade's End is an omnibus of the first 3

>>22733015
All the completed books have a free epub download, all the works in progress have partial translations avalible. Not really sure what more you want from me, these things take time.

>I'm also noticing now how their cover for it is a cheap rip-off of the real one
Its in the style of the original but if you think about it its a clever take on it. Step back for a second and look at the cover again, when you see it, you'll get the joke.

>Again, please fuck off with the duplicitous shilling. If your work isn't just machine-translated trash, at least be honest when you advertise it on here; say you (admit it's you) have translated something into English for the first time and see if people are interested.
Ive never claimed otherwise. Not samefagging either. Where in this thread did i ever pretend to be anyone im not The reason we're even having this interrogation is because im being upfront about it.

>If that ever gets completed, I'd rip it in full; you can put your own files onto a site like Lulu if you're desperate for a print copy
Ill put a free ebook on my website, so just go ahead and bookmark it. It'll save you both a lot of time.

>And please do something about your covers. Going the Gallimard route and nailing a consistent design would be miles better than the unreadable shit you're wrapping around these things.
These books are designed for print, not for a tiny jpg on amazon. I dont like the trend of trying to design covers for viewing on a phone, and there are hundreds of publishing companies doing a "classic" style of design. Im just having fun with it and trying new things.

>And are these just machine-translated? because it looks you're translating from French, Italian, and Chinese at the very least.
Ive been pretty transparent about my process and ive got a substack article on the way that will go into more detail about it. Pretty sure we've had this conversation before even. I speak fluent french and spanish, passible italian, and the chinese is building off the machine translated version by going over it with a good dictionary, a fine tooth comb, some chinese friends, and a lot of cultural context about the (mostly continental european) philosphers Wang Huning is refering to. I will admit that i take a lot of liberties with the chinese poetry he occassionally quotes, because its fun and id like to have some sort of rhyme/rhythm to them.

>>22733086
Why would anyone expect an emotionally deep story from Vance?

>>22733104
Hindsight

>>22733088
>Where in this thread did i ever pretend to be anyone im not
For the entire thread up until I called you out you were posting without any mention of the fact that you're the one to make money off the books you bring up, and I've seen your previous threads.

>These books are designed for print, not for a tiny jpg on amazon
You're a megatard. Having faint text on visually busy backgrounds isn't going to read well in print, and is awful no matter the format. Your designs in general are mediocre at best, more often tacky, and most often just shit. Setting yourself apart by sucking is not what you want to do.


Making note that this is Tikhanov Library so I can find this thread easily the next time you try your stealth shilling.

>>22733297
>still shilling

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>>22733318
Yeah. Go shill somewhere else.

>>22733318
>Credentials don't matter at all
>Yes, I'm retarded, why do you ask?

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>>22732275
based horror enjoyer

>>22731164
Agree with the "what I expected". My "what I got" is more like this.

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>>22733430
Based. My favorite is when he convinces a rich guy he's a wizard then says that his 14 year old daughter must save her virginity for him or some kind of curse will happen, then he gets bored and magnanimously frees the daughter from his "curse" when he leaves town.

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>>22733457
I liked when he broke out of prison just to kick somebody's ass and then broke back into prison so he'd have an alibi.

>>22733318
i just stumbled into this thread but i can tell that guy is right about you being a shill because youre seething so hard about it lmao

>>22730309
>>>/x/

>>22733659
>The sound of brown hands typing

>>22733673
yeah, yours, christkike

>>22733686
>n-no you
how embarrassing

>>22733318
Here. Let me show you how a pro does it.

>>22733673
>The sound of brown hands typing
Abrahamist bros...

>>22734004
Now compare absolute numbers.

>>22734026
Here, now guess which group is getting smaller and which is growing. Americas also has Latinos included.

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>>22730920
I second this with caveats, Epictetus mostly addresses the principles behind correct behaviour and actually criticises his students for asking his advice on specific issues they have. He's the most broadly applicable but also the most strict, he asks a lot of you and if don't do it you're a fool. Seneca was writing to his friends so he's much more gentle and understanding. Marcus Aurelius is a journal edited for public consumption, possibly the most accessible but very scattershot.

>>22734349
Anon, those aren't absolute numbers...

>>22729490
Pure kino. Read a comic adaptation when I was a kid. It's basically like a Russian Vagabond but about prayer instead of dueling. I should probably read the book.

>>22729845
You deserve a (you) for this, love Lord Jim

>>22733488
He wasn't wrong....

>>22733471
based kaoru appreciator

>>22735839
>Anon, those aren't absolute numbers...
I know, but it should nonetheless show that most Christians aren't white. The only people who still give a fuck about Christianity are Americans and Africans, with the amount of Northern American Christians decreasing too iirc. It's just irritating to see delusional Christcucks acting if this were not the case.

>>22736104
Almost time for the yearly rewatch friendo

>...words never failing to bestow on even the haughtiest woman the sadness, the hollow hopes, and the freedom of the whore: "youll be leaving in the morning, wont you?"

if you ever wanted a reason to hate china, this is the book for you

>>22736676
>this plot
I will absolutely read this now

is there really a Lady Di woman in it?

>>22736683
There's a pale mature vampire woman who has seggs with the protagonist.

>>22736717
sold

this one might be a little controversial

>>22736845
What is this, some sort of chinese casanova?

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>>22733015
Samefag. I see you in literally every thread related to any kind of self-publishing or /lit/ authors. Are you on an industry payroll or something? Take a deep breath and calm down dude.

>>22737050
>Are you on an industry payroll or something?
No. Are you trying to defend this guy stealth shilling on here? It's shitty to have actual discussion taken up by people who are only here to secretly try to sell something.

>>22736822
BNW is like the ultimate midwit book

>>22737084
>muh actual discussion
I see you in literally every thread that has any kind of self-promotion in it, its pretty obvious that you actively monitor these threads. When its corporate drones like Peterson somehow that's acceptable though. You're clearly trying to derail any kind of organic writing movement coming out of /lit/.

Not going to engage with you any further because it will derail the thread, but you're a piece of shit.

>>22737109
I've seen this guy shilling his shitty press and called him out on it when he's obviously been samefagging. It's not like that makes me a fan of the coombait and the other assorted trash you bring up; best you can do is report that and move along. But when it's someone secretly ("secretly" being the key word) trying to sell something, it's not so easy, and they ought to be called out for it.

If you read through what I said, you'd see that I'm fine with honest self-promotion. If somebody says it's their book and they're trying to sell it, fine by me. But it's shitty to be dishonest about it and resort to actual shill tactics. Saying this guy is part of any "organic writing movement" when he's shilling like this is stupid. (I mean "shilling" in the real sense as fake enthusiasm for a product, not as the usual catch-all for self-promotion.)

>I see you in every thread that has self-promotion
Do you really think I'm the only guy who doesn't like shills? What other threads are you even talking about? I post in some project-related threads, but it's definitely not all negative. I've bought books from /lit/ authors and contributed to projects, if that means anything.

>>22737050
>Samefag
The only thing I asked for was if there's a proper translation of Huning's work. If a translation isn't done by a professional, then it's lacking in most cases – especially if shill anon doesn't even speak Chinese.

I won't buy anything self-published.

>>22737098
Only if you think it's a dystopia.

>>22733757
Now that is actually fitting

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>>22736952
It's widely considered the best novel written in Chinese. Not really a Casanova because there is less humor, and it isn't focused on a character (on the contrary there are like 500 of them).

Frankfurt is truly the most depressing city in all of Germany

>>22738874
>when what I read and what I expected are the same thing

>>22738915
how about this

>>22733318
kys

>>22736739
Cannery Row is like an episode of a 70s sitcom. In a good way.

>>22739084
Better

>>22738874
Perhaps because Germans are the minority there.

>>22733757
kek

>>22740533
Added to backlog

>>22729597
YA KNO WAT A SHOGGOTH IS, BOYH?

>>22736669
Added

>>22740440
The number of cows scarified in both Odyssey & Iliad wasn't something I expected.

>>22741465
The only one that made me kek

>>22730309
I really like how its not a square

>>22742026
>KJV

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>>22741493
Should have been obvious from the name desu

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>>22742026
Based

>>22730309
3 months ago i decided to start lifting and 1 month ago I started running as well

I’m still depressed, it didn’t do shit but now I can deadlift 225lb. When does depression go away? This is my first year with it

>>22742284
I don't know about you guys but when I first read this I thought "pneumatic" was some kind of reference to the physical action of sex, like a pneumatic pump

>>22742653
As an ESL, I looked it up since I never encountered the word 'pneumatic' before BNW.

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>>22742646
get closer to god

>>22743529
These comments mean nothing, they always have a spiteful and angry cast to them.

>>22742646
Find a social group, also supplement with magnesium and try to get a solid 8 hours sleep a night. I hope you beat it.

>>22741774
you've read the third bible, named after the two others
5 total
5

>>22742646
Depression is not a chemical disorder. It's a learned behavior to deal with the consequences of your anger. You're already on your way by breaking your shit behaviors. Keep going.
Whats the thing that you're the angriest about.

>>22743548
magnesium won't save you

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>>22729134
Based Seneca. Shame he’s overlooked by stoic purists.

>>22742646
>When does depression go away
when you get above 4pl8

>>22730920
>Epictetus is the most accessible
he's the best of the 3 but definitely not.

>>22744056
1pl8 overhead, 2pl8 bench, 3pl8 squat, 4pl8 deadlift, all your problems become solved and you instantly acquire an anime harem

>>22735488
Honestly, what really stuck with me from that novel was Pon Chain Train, and Himselfs film "Acomplice." That fake short wakes me up in the middle of the night. I can hear that fag screaming "Murderer" over and over...

>>22744357
Five Rings is Bob Books for the Based. Dude used both swords and just spammed and bullshitted to success. I also think he probably isnt real, but the book is a collection of moves that cut through the bullshit that was ceremony in duels, because the idea is to kill the other guy, honour is fake and gay, winning is the goal.

>>22730309
yes. no bingo! just gotta keep staying away from carbs

>>22735488
From somewhere blue?

>>22744848
....Well shit