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>We need a group of individuals who are loyal to me and obey me and my ideology to have complete control, so that the poors work for our best interests.

He was just an evil mongrel who conned the uneducated peasantry. Nothing more to it.

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He isn't wrong honestly, the majority of people are fucking stupid, that is why nothing ever changes.

>>22686747
Lol, even better.

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Not really he was a true believer why would he write so many books about it if he didn’t believe. Also in the beginning he gave control of factories to workers but it quickly went to shit so it went from worker owned to state bureaucrat managerial owned

>>22686754
You have no right to say that average people should obey you when you intend to impose an even dumber system though.

>>22686770
I know he believed it, that's how he managed to con so many people. I'm saying he was insane, spiteful and not very intelligent.

>>22686741
> Why was this ever taken seriously?
Mass popular uprising where the French working did the legwork only for its fruits to be consumed by a small bourgeoise elite had occured four times at that point already. It was clear that some kind of a professional and organized pro-social question group was required to steer a mass uprising to not be hijacked by militarist-bourgeoise powers.

>>22686771
Did i say i was a communist? you do know you can agree in part with what people say without adopting their political views. I agree with some ''right'' wingers, i agree with some ''left'' wingers, political beliefs should not be rigid dogmas.

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Fuck off to /leftroonpol/.

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I was the first reply, and even so, I admit that at least Lenin believed his own nonsense.

Truth be told, Communism as a concept was valid until the fall of Russia in 1991. At that point, no matter if you hated it or loved it, as an idea, the fact that Russia fell meant that Communism had proven itself wrong in practice.

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The mongoloid got offended, great to see.

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Get out. Your kind isn't welcome here.

>>22686785
I guess my point is that it's never very smart to place complete dictattorial control in the hands of random upstarts. Even if you think you have something less retarded than communism it might not work out as you intended.

>>22686798
What about China? Or the not real communism argument

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You're confused at where you are you stupid fucking troon. Go discuss your gay polishits on >>>/pol/ you mongoloid gommie.

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Why are dysgenic commietroons spamming today? What happened again to wake up these no-life schizos?

>>22686807
I like the idea of Plato's republic of having a society ruled by wise men for the greater good, such wise men are not allowed to have possessions or wealth, and are actually skilled in running a state for the benefit of all. They were called guardians from what i remember.

Soviet communism was shit, but so is western ''democracy''

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You really should fuck off and take your shitty polishits with you.

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Didn't I tell you to take your shit and leave?

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>take your shit and leave
No

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>NO!!! YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT AN AUTHOR WHOS WORK LED TO THE DEATH OF MILLIONS ON A BOARD ABOUT BOOKS.
Calm down

>>22686741
>Is the incarnation of Plato's philosopher-king

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>yes I'll insist on shitting up the board with my troon politics
Reminder that you'll never own the means of production, cretins like you can only stay alive thanks to their relatives' generousness.

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Hey shitskins, are you lost? >>>/pol/ is just a click away.

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>shitting up the board
You seem to be doing a good job at that, if you don't like something, why don't you save yourself from any anguish and just ignore it? nobody is forcing you to read what other people have written. You are a bit like a child who throws a tantrum who gets upset when he sees something he doesn't like even if it really has nothing to do with him. It would be much more beneficial for you to just shrug and think ''whatever''

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Why should I or anyone here should tolerate a gay polishit thread up in a literature board when >>>/pol/ exists? Why won't your ilk just fucks off there? Afraid of showing flags? Maybe /pol/tards upset you?

>>22686875
Hook, line, sinker.

>>22686811
You tell us. Is it gommunist or not?

>>22686896
I’m not educated enough

>>22686741
Idea: the workers should control the means of production.

Problem: the workers lack the technical and political education to control the means of production.

Solution: people who have that education should assume control, teach the workers, and eventually hand off the means of production to the newly educated workers.

I really don't see how this is hard to understand.

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Being a true believer is a necessary feature of being a communist/socialist. It's the way that otherwise capable but low self-esteem people can convince themselves that they should be ruling over everyone (as opposed to knowing yourself to be superior). Identical to christfaggotry, in that it's designed for losers who need to hide mentally from themselves and what they really want.

anti-communists are such rabid retards, just look at this thread for proof

>>22687084
>Problem: the workers lack the technical and political education to control the means of production.
Lmao when the fuck was this ever the problem? How has that neoliberal increase of the privatized administrative state over the past 40 years worked out for you? Those middle managers sure are doing a job.