/lit/ - Literature

>>22668632
Sorry western man but this is your destiny

>>22668632
How can anyone pretend this is in any way normal? If someone just ten years ago saw this it would scare the shit out of them.

>>22668632
just look up forensic pictures of a normal anus and a homosexual's anus, you would never want to put anything inside there ever.

>>22668642
> If someone just ten years ago saw this it would scare the shit out of them.
Still had trannies 10 years ago, nobody gave a shit.

People these days are exposed to more bullshit thanks to the internet. So you're being told to fear a people comprising <1% of the population while the top 1% literally horde wealth preventing a fair economy.

If you aren't transexual, but think about trannies on a nearly daily basis, you might want to have a word with yourself.

>>22668632
Amor Fati, anon.

The trick is not only not minding if you become a tranny, but welcome it. But it won't happen since it would have been a part of you since birth.

The real problem is the hatred in you. It's entirely incompatible with Stoicism.

You should watch the video, she's not a stoic, just talking about it.

>>22668632
>jannies have to meet posting quotas again

how exactly is reading Aurelius gonna make you a tranny. Is reading Caesar going to make you a tranny?

>>22668632
Skip ahead to a good thinker like Wittgenstein.

>>22668632
Looks like the pipeline claimed another one.

>>22668632
I wish i could teleport to 50 years in the future to see how the tranny fad is seen retroactively

>>22668719
>"Transition" in the 2020s
>Get 30k of plastic surgery to become hotter, payed for by leaf or euro healthcare
>Don't take your hormones, just resell them
>Have your marginalized voice uplifted, easy jobs/grants/clout
>15 years later, the side effects of hormones and surgery become inignorable, suicide rates are even worse
>Pharma cultural ops and rigged studies to normalize trannyism are uncovered
>Become a brave voice of the detransition movement, win thousands in class action lawsuits
Guarantee some people will pull this grift off. Actually, by the looks of it, its the dude in OP

>>22668741
>payed

>>22668741
No they went off the deep end, and will probably ride or die with the movement. I can see all the trans stuff escaping to Latin America. Some places like Brazil are okay with that stuff, so they'll probably make their own enclave gayborhoods.

>>22668698
>>22668702
ywnbaw

>>22668632
Will trannies ever stop projecting and co opting what others like?

>>22668698
Lmao, nobody "fears" trannies except for small women and children. We're just disgusted by you.

>>22668898
>We're just disgusted by you.
*unless you like taftaj

>>22668898
>We're just disgusted by you.
*unless you look like taftaj

I'm a transgender girl, but I'd be happy to be friends with anyone here. Like, on a personal level. Not as an ideological position. I'm sure you can see the difference, the way a Christian and Atheist can both be friends. It's the ideologies they get in the way of friendship, isn't it?

Just let me be myself and you can be yourself, and then we can be friends and respect each other. Only an ideologically-possessed Hylic would disagree!

>>22668914
Nobody will respect a retard who's whole personality is being a perverted coomer. Go away.

>>22668921

You go away.
If you can't respect a person for who they are, then why would I respect you? Plus, I'm not a coomer. I mostly just write extremely long posts on /lit/. I play piano, create art, and I even go outside to play softball in the summer.

We could do those sorts of things together as friends, but not if you're unwilling to meet me halfway.

>>22668914
>Just let me be myself
>We can be friends as long as you accept my fundamental understanding of the good ie tolerance!
>Only an ideologically-possessed Hylic would disagree!

Liberalism is moral syphilis.

>>22668698
>being told to
lol trust me, nobody needs to be told. it's the basic human reaction to be disturbed by trans people

>>22668925
>softball in the summer.
Based. Armature leauge?

>>22668928

Classical liberalism is freedom and yields us the power to speak our mind and express ourselves, and thus write books or chat on 4chan without censorship.

You advocate for censoring me and others, and you call that good and right? You're the one with a diseased mind. If you cannot handle making friends with people who are different than yourself, it's because you're infected with a Memetic-Virus, which serves itself, but not life or humanity. You're a disgrace as a human, and you should ponder the true nature of freedom and what liberty, liberalism, libertinism, and libertarianism are actually based upon.

The truth of nature is eternal. Your false-memetics will only doom us to divisive conflict and unresolvable hatred. Stop being a traitor to other humans. Your beliefs are inherently false.

There is /lgbt/ for trannies. There is /pol/ for hating trannies. There is /tv/ as battleground between trannies and their enemies. So why bring this shit to /lit/?

>>22668925
>Who they are...

You are as mentally ill as the next person who hears voices in their head AT BEST. At worst you are a pervert. In either case you have the gall to demand everyone else conform to your delusion.

>I mostly just...

How often do you watch pornography? At what age did you start? How much time do you spend on the internet? How old were you when you started suffering these delusions? How often do you engage in physical exercise?

>>22668940

No, just casual with a few friends. I use a foam ball and bat, so I can just head to the park literally every day, and not have to carry any protect gear with me. Then we just take turns hitting, and actually do keep score, in line with our simplified rules. Winner buys everyone icecream.

And just to cover my bases: What do we do with the libertine rapist? Hang him and let him swing freely.

>>22668698
>>22668702
I see your hair. It is a wig.
Your Adam's apple still looks big.
You are a man, and that is clear.
I do not see a woman here.
I must admit, it's rather odd
To hear you say you're now a broad.
You have no uterus, so no:
You cannot bleed from down below.
I do not like your padded bra!
You should not use the women's spa!
You tell me you had surgery;
Your pronouns still are "him" and "he."
Your chromosomes are X and Y.
That means you'll always be a guy.
You gave yourself a girly name.
That does not mean you're now a dame.
A surgeon chopped your eggs and ham?
I still won't call you Ma'am.

>>22668941
>what liberty, liberalism, libertinism, and libertarianism are actually based upon
Not him but these things are based mostly on cowardice and stupidity.

>>22668941
>People should be able to discuss ANY ideas it's the liberal way!
>Proceeds to call anyone who disagrees with this a 'Traitor to humanity'

>>22668943

The mental illness you have is considered normal, but I see it for what it is. Your mind is fundamentally malicious towards other humans. I know this because instead of basing your conduct on truth and benevolence, you begin to make assumptions of me and ask pointed, hostile questions, with the implication that I'm ill or wrong. If I was to do the same to you as you do to me, and shift the powers-that-be in my favor instead of yours, don't you think there would be weeping and much gnashing of teeth?

Let's just not ask those wicked questions in the first place. Just tolerate my existence at worst, and at best, welcome me as your friend and show me respect, and I will do the same for you.

>>22668950

Then read my words I already spoke.

>And just to cover my bases: What do we do with the libertine rapist? Hang him and let him swing freely. >>22668948

I've covered my bases.
Stupidity? Drawn.
Cowardice? Quartered.
Falsity? Hanged.

>>22668941
>The truth of nature is eternal
We agree on that point, which is why you are only able to live out your delusion to any degree in a technologically advanced society, with greater surplus of resources than ever experienced before by man.
The day it all comes down is the day your fantasy ends. Imagine, you get forced into manual labour because you are a MAN physically strong enough to do the task, your beard grows back because you can't afford razors/makeup because you're a MAN, your gaping hole becomes infected because the antibiotics that stop the axe-wound between your legs from killing you are no longer available because you are a MAN. Indeed truth is eternal, she comes for us all.

>>22668702
>she's

>>22668952

No, you are a traitor to ME.
I am a human and if you disrespect me or view me as an enemy, then you are an ally to a mere ideology, but an enemy to an actual living human.

That is your sin. Freedom is inherent to reality.
Even upon the foundations of determinism, we the living, still would seek freedom. The truth of nature demands freedom. The harshness of evolution demands freedom. It is freedom that gives rise to empires, for some people are greater than others, as is their right for that is their might.

It would take force to silence me, and thus you would have to best me in single-combat to do this honorably. With a sword? I would win. I play softball. I know how to swing. With fists? I spar. With pistol? I shoot and I do not miss.

You would be dominated and crushed by me in single-combat. Let's not go there. Let's just show each other respect, such that a day will never come when I have to utterly crush you and show you everyone what The Natural Order looks like in action.

>>22668964
Hahahahahaha

In your "liberal" world view there are evil questions?
I'm beginning to think I'm more liberal than you!

In truth I actually pity you. I'm currently reading Dante, in hell there are men punished for there sins in life by being turned, partially or fully, into the other sex. They wander around as mutants, in constant agony, doomed to an eternity of half existence. I can only pity someone so mentally ill that they live that life here already, by choice!

Anyway I'm done. YWNBAW

>>22668971
Nuh-uh you cant make appeals to freedom and then just stop when things get uncomfortable. You deny those irrational, bigoted moral rules and I find the position praiseworthy. I merely think we should draw the premises to their final conclusion and stop pretending that your "values" are anything more than a figment of imagination. All the talk about toleration, hatefulness and what have you are just manipulative words by which you want to restrict human freedom and thriving. You are a bigot who would burn witches just to stoke the feeling of your own self-righteousness.

>>22668987
Ok I thought I was done.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Get help.

Now I'm done.

>>22668987
>You would be dominated and crushed by me in single-combat.

>>22668975

The day it comes down? Such a dark prospect, sir.

Then who is plotting the downfall of Civilization?
I exist upon the assumption of the continuation of Civilization. The glory of our technological empire is not something I wish to diminish or extinguish.

Do you? Are you the one scheming to destroy?
Or are you the Atlas upon whose back the balance of the world depends? Stand strong and stand steady. I'm not going to let it fall as long as you help me out even a little.

But position yourself as my enemy, and then it is only a matter of time before the world falls.

>>22668992
>>22668971
Guys I'm having a hard time following who's the tranny and who's the chud here

Why do people still fall for the troon's baits? He's been doing the exact same things for weeks. At this point I think he isn't even trans, just a regular attention whore doing this as a meme. He even started namefagging once but apparently he's given up on that.

>>22668999

>>22669009
th.. thanks

>>22669011
You are welcome.

>>22668999
Checked, but really it's because most chuds on the internet are closets. There's a reason all these /pol/ nazis end up in skirts anon.

>>22668992

I'm not the one burning witches.
I'm the one writing ideas, and when a person sees my picture or my name, they condemn my ideas based on who I am, rather than the merit of those ideas themself. Can't you see how I'm being mocked on the basis of my identity right before your eyes? I don't mind being refuted; I am all the time and I learn from it, but do you think I see people speaking to me in good-faith?

No, I am witnessing faithless dogs who are not aligned with humanity.

Do you think that I, as a human, cannot define wickedness to my own ends? I certainly do, and I do it with a smile. That is freedom.

I never said I was a liberal. I'm only here to ask for respect as an inherent virtue to be given to each person, and taken when that respect is no longer due. I assume benevolence and intelligence of each person I meet, such that the negation of those attributes in light of their true nature be seen all the more clearly and harshly.

But in the light of freedom, do you think that I insist that all people be free? And equal to boot? The one who is most free is the one with the most power. Power is freedom, and thus emerges the will-to-power.

Hang the libertine rapist. That is my freedom.

>>22669016
>>22669020
I'm feeling confused. That means I'm a tranoon correct?

>>22668642
>noo don't make me hecking afraiderino
Being scared isn't really manly anon

>>22669029

No, it's demoralizing memetic propaganda images that lack anything other than a simple hateful message. There is no intellect to be seen here.

This matters because this is /lit/, and the refutation and discussion of ideas is supposed to have value here. They can certainly do what they want, but you should see it for what it is, and realize who your true enemies are and who they aren't.

>>22668898
but anon just said trannies are scary

>>22669034
You wanna point me in a direction? I could always use more enemies

>>22669028
>faithless dogs who are not aligned with humanity
>wickedness
>benevolence
>taken when that respect is no longer due
>Hang the libertine rapist. That is my freedom.
Another empty vessel that seeks to restrict anyone they deem a heretic. You partition humanity into sinners and the righteous based on arbitrary criteria, and feel justified in using violence wherever the sinner is concerned. Fitting that you equate your freedom with murder of those who dont fit your standards(which I am sure you derive from some totally objective authority).

>>22669034
>There is no intellect to be seen here.
You wound me.

>Respect my freed - ACK

>>22669042

If you want vast enemies, then do as I do, and question the nature of ideology. The simple idea of having any belief in the first place, is perhaps one of the most wicked ideas of all; as opposed to acting like actual, literal animals, and staying true to instinct and naturally arising desires. This does not preclude technology, for the laws of physics and chemistry exist to be manipulated by animals of all sorts.

We live in an age of news-cycles, issues-of-the-week, and left-right moralism, where it's the norm that a person not on your side is the enemy. And where even a "third-way" is not guaranteed to save you.

So why should we assume a fourth or a fifth way is better?

I would ponder that I should make myself an ally of humanity on our inherently stable genetic tree of life, and an enemy of memetic ideologies. I don't know if that's too esoteric, but even if it is, at least I'm hated by everyone just for merely existing, rather than me being the aggressor.
"They hated her because she told the truth."

>>22669003
What’s the point of the anime character in your post?

>>22669054

>>22669055
>imageboard
>anime site
I've been here for quite a few years now, it's just a habit.

>>22669046

My standards are my own. Self-defense is a virtue, and so is defense of your civilization.

Heresy is as heresy does. All ideas mutate, so rather than ponder heresy, I ponder my own will and what I will is a society that I prefer according to my subjective objectives. I'm a transgender girl, so naturally, that includes room for me. It also has room for you, unless you want to try to spread lies, hatred, and violence against the innocent. I used to be a teenage anarchist too.

I do not see sinners or righteous. I see friends and allies and lovers, versus enemies and traitors. My subjective perspective of objective reality is the foundation upon which my survival depends, as is true for all living things.

Do not tread upon a snake, nor kick a goat, nor poke a bear. Treat life with respect and you must hope it respects you. Are you arguing in good faith, or do you just really want to win against a tranny? You act as if your argument is that humans should have no law whatsoever. Is that what you believe?

>>22668997
You just shit out words that mean nothing to you then. Anon makes a great point that the truth of nature is not on your side, and you just ramble on about how you'll give your life to defend the artifice. Trannies are an excess that nature cannot support since our technological empire itself is not sustainable. It is already crumbling under its own weight.
But whatever, as long as trannies keep to themselves and stay away from power, I have no contempt for them. Many seem power hungry, though. Yourself included.

>>22669056
>n=1
>we gave this depressed retard lots of help and attention and he seemed better, it must've been the drugs

>>22668914
I've been friends with trans people before; they are usually socially awkward so I'd feel less shy approaching them. Some passed so well I didn't know others looked unfortunately freakish. I always just hid my opinions on the matter when it was brought up, just said yeah people should be allowed to do what they want, and this meant that none of them became real close friends like the poltard freaks and apolitical alcoholics I usually hang around. My opinion is the true greatness of European culture is scepticism, Hamlet is based, and I reserve the right to believe that a Trans person's desired gender is no more authentic than the one assigned previously. The original questioning of Gender norms I understand but the cult of dogma, the proclaimed path to change is just another supposed cure for an ailment we know nothing about. Could an Israeli and a Palestinian be friends if they were both passionate about their culture superseding the other: being recognized as the true owner of Jerusalem? An atheist and a Christian accept the other is wrong and probably would enjoy this conflict, could you enjoy the conflict with someone who refuses to acknowledge your gender?

>>22669074
>You act as if your argument is that humans should have no law whatsoever
Should? This is what I am talking about. A fucking fantasy land where you create morality from the whole cloth. A magicians trick. Law either exists objectively or it doesnt. Your subjective persective is worth nothing to anyone but you, which is true of all subjective perspectives. Tell me, if your morality is built upon no stabler basis that a food preference, why should anyone take it seriously. You agree with me that there is no law, you are just either too cowardly to draw the necessary conclusion or too stupid to do so. Either way your "morality" is worthless.

>>22669084

>>22669078

At this point, I don't think you have any idea what a "tranny" is. You must only know stereotypes, like the endless propaganda that is being posted just now in this thread? Those rude images? Have you ever had a legitimate friend who was transgender ever in your entire life? Like a transgender person who was able to trust you and talk to you about their thoughts and feelings? In person, in real life, as an actual friend?

You say "trannies are an excess," as if you just fucking HATED transgender people and assumed that they were worse than filth.

Well, they're not all perfect, but surely you can see that you're playing a game of two-lies-and-a-truth here, right? If you actually had no contempt for them, then why do you say what you do? It is fine for a person to seek power. Of course competition to power is not what anyone wants; we treat life like a zero-sum game, but it is strange of you to deny the will-to-power to your enemies, as if you actually did have contempt for their will and existence.

I would posit that it is a fear-mongering illusion that our technological civilization is crumbling. People are trying to scare you so that you can be mislead. In any case, I am not a classical liberal. I only defined a part of it, which I think makes sense nonetheless, especially in the context of us being on 4chan, where we cannot silence each other. I borrow from any idea that sounds good and true to me, but I do not "join" them.

>>22669105

>>22669089

Yes, one of my best friends refused to acknowledge my gender, and worse still, he knew me from when I still looked male, and I never minded. I'm not a slave to ideology, and not only that, but I'm not exactly naive. He's still my friend and I'm still his. I don't care about ideology. Being transgender is only something that hurts me, and the only known cure is for me to live as if I was a girl. If it's yet another ideology, then I would oppose it, but I don't know how and my enemies only know hatred and advocate suicide.

For me, I simply posit that gender and sex are decoupled, so even if I will never be a female, I still appear as a girl, and I take the role of one too, in a social sense.

But when it comes to Israel and Palestine, then I believe that they should do as I say: Abandon ideology and then they can be friends. As long as they are slaves to ideology and cannot see each other as humans who have the potential to be friends, then they will not be. Culture is ideology, and I don't mean interesting architecture or old style songs and dance. The sort of culture that breeds war and division is wrong to me.

The dogmatic form of atheism aside, if two friends were Christians, and one day, one of them simply no longer believes; simply does not find God to exist, and does not speak hatred, does not hold resentment, and no excuse exists for the Christian to condemn that atheist, other than on the basis of merely no longer believing in that religion, would they still be friends?

Christianity is yet another ideology, just as liberalism, communism, marxism, republicanism, hinduism, and all other ideologies are. They exist for their own ends, and not necessarily for yours.

When friendship exists despite ideology, then that is nice. But if ideology was exterminated from the world entirely, then we would either find new reasons to hate each other, or we simply would not. "Reasons" as a concept perhaps should be included as an ideology to exterminate as well then.

When food and water and land begin to run out, do we then begin to see each other as enemies? Or should we have used all that we have to get to Mars and beyond, and thus end that situation before it begins?

>>22669129
>But when it comes to Israel and Palestine, then I believe that they should do as I say: Abandon ideology and then they can be friends.
>When food and water and land begin to run out, do we then begin to see each other as enemies?
Gazans live in a fucking concentration camp you imbecile. They have electricity for 8 hours a day, contaminated water(if they get any), and constant harassment from Israel. And do you think Israelis do it because of ideology? Are you retarded? Your brain is so damaged from estrogen that you cant even view reality without your dollar store conceptual framework

>>22668632
what a beautiful English lady

THIS is how a woman looks like. No man would mistake a natural woman for a freak product of modern medicine. Sex is inscribed in humans in such fundamental way that any attempt at interference produces veritable abominations. Tell me, how does it feel? To know that you will never escape being a man?

>>22669138

...What?
I don't even know what you're trying to say.
You sound just plain mad and unhinged. If you think I'm wrong about some technical details, then whatever. If you want to talk about the Israel/Palestine situation, you can go to /pol/.

>>22669146

You want to revel in my suffering and agony?
You want me to express my divinely holy, yet unholy quest to be female, despite being born male?
You want to hear all about how I've cried and struggled to do my best to be feminine, because that's what feels right to me?

Weird.

Stop insulting transgender girls on the internet and get a girlfriend lol.

>>22669157
Look at that. Isnt it marvelous how fundamental sex is to humanity? This woman can just exist and be a woman without giving it a second thought. Entire reality, past and present, is in agreement as to her nature.

The unchanging difference between man and a woman seems to transcend very realm of biology, and encroaches into ontology. This endearing difference is really highlighted when you spend enough time around women. Their behaviour seems so natural to them.

Literature?

Look at the tomboy girl, for instance. Her boyish mannerism is made conformable with her female existence and, by the way of contrast, serves to highlight those essential features. There is at no point any doubt as to her feminity, and no artifice in her behaviur either.

>>22668987
These freaks always demand respect and compassion from others yet they will call for the death of everyone who disagrees with them.

Feminity is not even related to beauty. Even most dog-faced woman is still recognizably woman. Humans have evolved remarkable pattern recognition, and no one is ever really fooled by laughable attemptswhich are all you really amount to.

>>22668642
>How can anyone pretend this is in any way normal?
People are generally just too polite. That's literally it. Everyone just collectively agrees to play along as to not to hurt their feelings.

>>22669151
>>22669169
>>22669179
It really is incredible. I can't believe there are, actually, human females.

>>22669179
>>22669169
>>22669151
This slovenly piece of shit doesn't help the point you're trying to make.

>>22669157
NTA but anyway, I don't really care if you're a tranny. There are lots of weird people out there. What am I gonna do about it? It's just kinda hilarious that you actually, unironically, think that trannies *are* women. Do you think that or is that a /pol/ maymay?

>>22669208
She is hot. So are most women, in their own way. Its good to be picky with girlfriends, but come on tell me you wouldnt fuck her.

>>22669157
>divinely holy, yet unholy quest to be female
Kek guy thinks he is priest of Cybele

>>22668632
Lmaoooooo

Cioran said that Stoics achieved wisdom. Gass was right. Cioran is a fucking cliché.

>>22669187
For real.
Troons and chuds are two sides of the same damn coin, any internet discussion around these two autist camps is goddamn mire.

>>22668941
>Invokes nature
>Is a tranny
I hope you're joking. Choosing to be transgender is spitting in mother nature's face, which is why it disgusts anyone who still has his natural senses. Show a typical trans person to someone in Africa or to an unbrainwashed child and they'll be comfused and repulsed by the clearly balding man with long hair and fake tits.

Transgenderism is not about "live and let live." That's a philosophical veneer used to smuggle in something much more insidious: a socially enforced degradation of reason and sense perception, and a complete uprooting of the gender norms that have sustained civilization for thousands of years.

Tl;dr: ywnbaw and stop trying to demand that the world pretend you are one

>>22668632
Let's forget the transgender issue for a moment.

What is the problem with "Modern Stoicism"?
Stoicism tends to have a fairly ascetic, conservative way of life. But many modern Stoics seem to be hedonistic (not in an Epicurean way).
I have once seem one say that "to be a Stoic you need to be atheistic", which is puzzling for me. Stoics not only were not atheistic but their morality depended in parts on their theology.

>Coombait
Here we go

>>22669258
>How good it is when you have roast meat or suchlike foods before you, to impress on your mind that this is the dead body of a fish, this is the dead body of a bird or pig; and again, that the Falernian wine is the mere juice of grapes, and your purple edged robe simply the hair of a sheep soaked in shell-fish blood!
>And in sexual intercourse that it is no more than the friction of a membrane and a spurt of mucus ejected.

>>22669188
90 % she is a lesbian or future FTM tranny

>>22669283
91% you have autism

>>22668632
Just read stoicism, people over dramatise how bad it is. I read meditations when I was 13 and it was fine, I’ve re read it maybe 5 times, it’s a fairly basic practical philosophy that touches on some deeper themes. Sure it’s not Nietzsche but it’s fine for what it is.

It won’t turn you into a tranny, it won’t turn you into a cuck or anything else, it will just give you some solid life advice on how to get out of bed in the morning.

Trannies are instinctually gross creatures whose thoughts and feelings are less valid than that of a schizophrenics.

>>22669306
>deeper themes
>Nietzsche

The whole externals shouldn't make you unhappy always struck me as stupid. Tyranny, war and cancer suck, so wether you like it or not, they have moral value.

For me it's Aristippus the hedonist.

>>22669323
>Tyranny, war and cancer suck
Prove it.

>>22669323
>Aristippus
That's pretty much the worst way of life humans can follow.

>>22669323
Well why do they suck? Because they make you sad and hurt? Then by controlling the feelings of sad and hurt you can control the degree to which these things suck.

(Not saying I agree with the above reasoning but you’re making a statement without explaining your reasoning)

>>22669387
No. There is more than feewings. Tyranny war and cancer suck because they destroy your life and your ability to lead it.
>inb4 nuh uhhh that's just a feewing

>>22669391
Why is death bad?

>>22669393
I dunno, why?

>>22669398
Idk either tbqh.

>>22669405
I'm kinda looking forward to it, to see if anything happens. Or otherwise, oblivion sounds fine.

>>22669387
>Well why do they suck? Because they make you sad and hurt?
Would you prefer having cancer ot not having cancer?

>>22669412
I think that's the point of the stoic school: that you use your intellect to determine your proper place in the world (which they considered to be literally a kind of living & breathing organism) without being distracted by the vicissitudes of life. You can still fight tyrants or try to cure your cancer.

>>22669323
Would you say the Singaporean government was worse than the Indian government in the 20th century?

>>22669306
My brother transitioned after reading Nietzsche though

>>22669391
>destroy your life
If you mean it strips you of your worldly possessions or ability than those are externals and only valuable because you attached value to it

If you mean it kills you then death is not inherently bad, we only think it’s bad because
>we lose everything
Refer to first point
Or
>no afterlife
Then it will not have mattered to you that you are dead.
Or
>muh mistakes/unfulfilled potential
You will never live in the future or past so there is no point in grieving them.
Or
>our family would be sad
That is their choice and nothing you could control or prevent

The list goes on but stoic logic can come up with a rebuttal for basically all common ideas to why death is bad.
>>22669427
I would prefer to not have cancer but if i got it then it would not do any good to be mad or sad because it would just make it worse.
>>22669439
Lmao

>>22669456
>I would prefer to not have cancer but if i got it then it would not do any good to be mad or sad because it would just make it worse.
So you know cancer is bad

>>22669466
nuffing is bad just like turn your brain off bro it's not that hard, you're not a little bitch are you?

>>22669466
I don't think you quite understand the Stoic thought.

>>22669466
Well this question is fundamentally retarded because by giving me a choice it’s no longer a external event. The point is to be indifferent if cancer just randomly struck you because that’s just the natural way things panned out and out of your control hence, no point to make a value judgment.

>>22669210

It's obviously a /pol/ meme.

No transgender woman thinks that she is female. It is very clear that the meaning of transgender in this context is, "Born male, but takes on the aesthetic and role of a woman." There is an acute difference in taking on the social role and aesthetic of a woman versus actually believing that you are biologically female, despite being born biologically male, and it seems as if only /pol/ people think that transgender people really believe otherwise. They tout, "You are mentally ill and not real women!" as if being transgender was a mental illness consisting of having no clue what's between their own legs. We all know the truth. We are putting on an aesthetic and social role, and we are all very aware of this. It is the hatred from external forces that induces the high suicide statistic. The idea of having empathy for people who are not yourself is foreign to many people, even to this day.

>>22669577
Do troons who can't pass not suffer significant mental anguish though? I doubt it's all society's fault that so many of them an hero.

>>22668632
Turning trans for clout is indicative of the Faustian spirit of the VVestern man. Seizing true power at all costs

>>22669586
Troons want for something they cannot have so it will inevitably cause mental anguish

>>22669589
I actually believe this (while not endorsing this world view). Faustian man doesn't accept limits imposed upon xherxelf, that's why xhe seeks to destroy the immutable distinction of sex.

>>22668708
>Aurelius
No
>Caesar
Yes

>>22669589
/lit/ is such a goldmine for random keks. You never know when your sides will just up and leave.

>>22669577
>but takes on the aesthetic and role of a woman
They why are there so many TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN slogans out and about? Most people dont really care about troons themselves, but I think its the act of calling an obviously biological male a 'her' that bugs folks, it feels like lying to grandma about grandpas death because her memory is slipping or something.

>>22669586

They do, but they take the "repper" route, according to /lgbt/, which is where they simply live as men and live a life outside of being a transgender girl. Repression.

To that end, it's not that I exactly blame society for anything. Blame is a coward's way out. The dark truth that I've come to know is that life is its own reward, and if you speak nothing, do nothing, and be no one, then your fate is already sealed: You will die without having ever lived.

If I was unable to be a beautiful transgender girl, then I would just live the life I currently have and continue to do things as I do them, such as reading, softball, having a job, etc etc.

Due to the fact that I pass perfectly, I just am a girl in addition to all else I do. I feel bad for people who can't pass, but I also feel bad for incels and nerds in the same sense. People who are born ugly may be beautiful in ways that are just hard to see with your eyes, so I never judge a person just for how they merely look or for whatever label they might have. But I still do judge. I certainly judge.

There's only a simple truth that as long as you do not conform, it does not matter if you are demon or savior: You will be mocked; you will be hated; you will be judged and condemned. Stoicism is only a tangent at this point, but a person who does not understand Stoicism will let the harrows of the world uproot them and cause them unquenchable suffering. I am not a Stoicist in the sense of it being my personal philosophy, but by understanding it and its purpose, I can whether all frost and fire, at any cost and at all costs.

>>22669589
Honestly I want to disagree, but it seems like this was the inevitable consequence of western humanism and “progress”

>>22669610

I don't really know what the slogans are about. That seems more like a leftist/activist thing. Most transgender people I know personally are not like that, and instead, they've only wanted to pass quietly and not be noticed. That's how I am too, except on the internet. Of course I'm as annoying as possible here on 4chan, but in my daily life, I'm fine with any pronouns and fine with being a male. I don't "troon" out like those video clips would suggest.

I don't plan to get any surgery either, for that matter, and neither do a lot of transgender people. I've been on /lgbt/ enough to know that the most common conception of transgender people doesn't fit the truth. Stereotypes are just not the same as reality, and the most terrible truth is that the only stereotype of transgender people is that they are ugly, mentally ill, or kill themselves a lot.

Even the worst stereotypes lack violence, hatred, wealth, power, greed, war-mongering, stupidity, or really anything else all that bad. "Man in the girl's bathroom!" I don't think that sort of thing is really a big deal unless someone either points it out loudly in a rude way to shame an honest transgender girl, or an actual man-in-a-dress is being weird about it, in which case, even I would kick them out.

It just seems like a weird demographic to hate so much. The transgender:hate ratio feels skewed, and it's probably just due to propaganda. Even now, I'm only in this thread because someone mentioned transgender stuff in a rude way, and I'm not really going to just let my people be insulted so baselessly while I'm sitting here bored on the internet.

My first post was simply this:

"I'm a transgender girl, but I'd be happy to be friends with anyone here." "It's the ideologies they get in the way of friendship, isn't it?"

>>22669612
Do you play women or men's softball?
>Due to the fact that I pass perfectly, I just am a girl in addition to all else I do.
You write like a highly emotional autistic man, like a more literate Chris-chan. You have this naive and melodramatic writing style that is way too idiosyncratic and repetitive to belong to a neurotypical biological woman. Frankly, at least in your writing, you do not pass at all. If you also talk like this, no matter how you look, everyone's gonna think there's something deeply wrong with you. You may pass as a woman, but not as a normal, healthy individual.

>>22669199
This. I don't mind people doing whatever the fuck they want, including butchering their dicks and dressing like women, but I can't stand the social contract that forces you to treat everyone politely. People should be free to do anything they want, and treating other like shit for no reason is part of that.

>>22669220
Women are whores and I hate them, but I also want to rape them. Why is why is life so contradicting, bros?

>>22669653

It seems like you did nothing but insult me throughout your entire post, so I'm done talking to you.

>>22669112
Kek

>>22668898
>Lmao, nobody "fears" trannies
>>22668642
>this it would scare the shit out of them.
Behold: Stupidity. The most dangerous disease ever, and it can be caught over the airwaves.

Symptoms include: Pride, Making assumptions, Being unable to follow a basic 4chan thread.

>>22668949
It's really sweet you demonstrate your manliness in a poem a child could write.

>>22668936
It's a taught reaction. And your parents failed you. I'm sorry.

>>22670105
Is being disgusted by hideous people a "taught" reaction too?

>>22670105
You have to be conditioned to even tolerate being around trannys. that's what all the story time shit is about.

>>22670092
Theres a difference between genuinely fearing someone, and being so shocked/disgusted by someone’s deformed appearance that you feel a sensation of fear.

>>22670113

Yes, I suppose it is.

I don't feel "disgust" from people's appearance. My mind doesn't even associate "hideousness" with external appearance. I really am not as shallow as you are, I think.

Maybe your reaction is taught; maybe it is inborn, but in that case, you are an inferior person with an inferior mind, and possess an affliction that turns you into a monster; as opposed to the natural state of a true human, who is able to look for virtue, wisdom, and beauty in others and actually find it every single time without exception. Even in you, I would truly hope to find at least one good attribute.

But as it is, you are either a mutation from the current branch of humanity, and thus a cancer, or you are a lower form entirely. Whatever you are, you are not like me, and until you redeem yourself, you disgust me the way cancer or filth disgusts me.

>>22670184

Yes, we know. We know that, yet you are still shocked, disgusted, terrified, or otherwise view other people as if you were a sadistic judge meant to mock, slander, defame, or simply bully people who are otherwise innocent, save for being ugly or wearing clothing you don't like, or simply being quirky.

>>22670171
Or conditioned not to tolerate anybody different?

Know who I'd rather be, but I don't spend my time seething about chicks with dicks who probably still get more action than you.

It must be galling to be such a strapping handsome lad, not having sex with anything without a thread count.

>>22670113
Yes. Read any parenting book on behaviour modelling.

Your parents probably taught you to be kind and caring for everybody no matter who they were, then called ever girl with short hair a dyke, and assumed any guy with long hair was gay.

I'm sorry to say trash parents lead to trash offspring. Being able to find other like minded garbage online does not make this less true.

>>22670208
Yes, its actually ok to bully people who willingly make themselves look horrid in order to spite nature lol.

>>22670184
I don't care about all your hair splitting. I don't perform deep dive analysis on posts here, to give the poster the benefit of the doubt. This is a /lit/ board, we deal in clarity, not exceptions and devils' advocate.

Tbh biowomen seem more unlikeable than trannies.

>>22669151
>>22669169
>>22669179
Errgh. She should eat less pizza. Just saying.

>>22669639
I see transgender people as basically 2 very different groups.

Group 1 is highly politically motivated. They absolutely want to control speech, they don't accept anything but complete submission to their ideology and they will try to ruin your life for misgendering them. They also tend to have very manly, dominant personalities and often identity as "trans lesbians".

Group 2 is feminine gay men who really like the idea of being women. The vast majority of mft who have the ability to pass are from this category. Many of them seem to have fairly meek and submissive personalities, they don't want to start shit and just want to live and let live.

Group 2 is mostly harmless and I have nothing against them as long as they don't advocate for surgery or try to groom others. Group 1 is the reason for most of the unreasonable amount of hatred you're getting these days. Even 4chan used to be fairly cool with group 2 back in the day.

>>22668941
What you call "memetic-virus" is what we normal healthy people call having principles and virtues. Of course as a virtueless retard who chopped off his own dick as an expression of "liberty" you won't understand.

Yes the truth of nature is eternal. And the truth is ywnbaw

>>22668987
You betrayed yourself. You disrespect your true self everyday. You literally chopped off your own dick. Nobody is a bigger enemy to you than yourself. If anyone who is an ally to a mere ideology its you.

>>22670249
>Even 4chan used to be fairly cool with group 2 back in the day.
4chan is very cool with them still, most of them are probably the biggest haters.

You know the saying "Nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans?". Same deal.

I'd say there's a Group1 in most demographics. There are plenty of right wing gays, trannies are no different. There are always people who thing other people should be subjected to rule, but not them. Thankfully, they're usually in the minority. But click bait and populist algorithms make money, so we hear about them all the more.

>>22670302
Nazi trannies are interesting. I've talked to a few online.

>>22669003
Its a troll obviously but millions of white and jewish retards in the western world actually believe this shit. Its good to provide counter discourse

>>22670308
I've never met any right-wing trannies aside from "based" alt light grifters. And I know a lot of autistic right-wing retards. The only people who go down the tranny abyss from what I can tell are leftists. They are always in a culture or friend group that promotes and enables the delusion. Usually typical college "gay in a cool way!" type zoomers.

>>22670214
Dude, relax, you're acting like a chick

>>22668987
Oh deary me HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA good grief

>>22670318
>The only people who openly go down the tranny abyss from what I can tell are leftists
ftfy.

You said your self, grifters. They gots to grift.

>>22668999
I'm with this guy. I've lost who's who

>>22670318
Idk how common they are but maybe they just shut up about their political views.

>>22668741
>Pharma cultural ops and rigged studies to normalize trannyism are uncovered
Kek this is why the "trust the science" people are so fucking annoying. Like the concept that some of these institutions might have a perverse incentive to distort data is just unthinkable to them

>>22670198
>who is able to look for virtue, wisdom, and beauty in others
>is a tranny

Inherent contradiction. The reason we assume you are disgusting and not worth listening to just because you are a tranny is because being a tranny is inherently unvirtous (gratification over truth), unwise (mutilating yourself) and ugly (self explanatory

>>22668999
The Hegelian dialectic marches on

>>22669677
Women will dress like this and deny they want to get raped.

>>22669071
This is a war crime

>>22669084
You completely ignored the second part where they decrease the dosage and he reverted.

>>22668698
Imagine being such a disingenuous faggot

>>22671683
Ye I love how these people can seamlessly shift between screeching about trans rights 24/7 and then they switch to “why do you even care bro theres barely any of them”

>>22668632
i dont mind this tranny but after their transition i.e started wearing wigs he's been very uppity about the tranny thing

Philosophytube has always been a dumbfuck, even before the transition. Her video on the housing crisis is just HOLY SHIT. Literally no idea how a simple market model works, blabbering to hundreds of thousands about why they're evil.

Fucking 30iq mouthbreather.
Also, sweety. You're not contra. Stop trying so hard. The copycatting is so obvious it's hard not to believe you're a parody channel.

>>22668914
I'll be your friend. I might ask uncomfortable questions. But I personally don't have a problem with transgender people. Just the generally inconsistent epistemology and corporate pandering (of/to them) in the west recently. What books do you like?

>>22668635
>>22669589
Unironically.

>>22668632
Did you read the HELLENES first?
You should already know what happens then
if you don't know what I'm talking about it you need to re-read something or you missed the text entirely

>22670198
>I don't feel "disgust" from people's appearance.

Then there is something profoundly wrong with you. Disgust is a primal emotion hardwired into everyone - it's more likely that you're simply lying, just like all trannies and tranny-enablers do.

>>22670184
I'm the guy that made that post and this is exactly what I meant. And women and children would definitely genuinely fear that guy in the OP pic.

At the end of the day if you don't want someone who looks like that away from you asap somethings wrong.

>>22668642
Daily reminded that Obergefell v. Hodges was just 8 years ago.

>>22672210
Philosophy tube is a hack. Everything he’s ever done is all bullshit emotional truth garbage. None of it is real or true. I refuse to watch any of his new videos. I would rather watch contra or go to the rope store.

>>22668907
I believe in beauty, i like attractive women and cute boys. The reality that people just have to accept is that most trannies look like utter shit and cannot pass, it's just extremely rare for a tranny to look good. I'd support the tranny faggot movement if only attractive people transitioned

>>22668632
Trannies are pushed so heavily by ZOG to normalize the abnormal and demoralize people. Anyone who actually tries to get the message out that the foreign occupiers of our nations want us dead and our children enslaved are completely banned from being able to get their message out. Instead, you are spoon-fed satanic dorks and insane trannies as the normal, while skeptical people are branded schizo nutjobs.

Remember, it is a network of atomized and marginalized resisters against multiple billion dollar industries, institutions, millions of united progressives and conservatives in government, and nearly the entire social sphere of people who "just want to fit in" so they participate in the 2 minute hate against those who shit talk globohomo.

You can see the 2 minute hate on this board for the writers here, it is what this board is designed for. A prison.

>>22670374
You're called a schizo if you say:
>hey, wait a second, if trannies are lifelong pharma consoomers, is it possible that pharma is interested in funding more pro-tranny shit? What about disease? A patient cured is a customer lost...

>>22671707
>rights 24/7 and then they switch to “why do you even care bro theres barely any of them”
Human rights aren't for the majority, they're always for the minority.

For the criminal, the asylum seeker, the gay or trans, the ethnic minority.

So it's very simple to have both truths in mind at the same time. I know it's the internet and you think you have to pick a side to be cool. But you don't.

>>22674720
Only if you are a confused, brainwashed libtard. Most people get uncomfortable when their ideology blatantly contains logical contradictions.

>>22668698
>So you're being told to fear a people
It's not fear. It's disgust.

>>22668655
I'm not looking at gay butholes faggot.

>>22669114
>before surgery I had plenty of willing partner
>before...willing
Lol

>>22672235
Faggot

>>22668632
Can someone put into words how western civilization went from St Augustin and Thomas Aquinas to trannies??

As you microdose on stoicism pause to improve your life with what you've learned.
If you don't you'll be confronting the total weight of your suckitude all at once, and in that scenario the logical thing to do is become a woman and nope out of active life.

>>22670198
>>22670223
You're dysgenic and ugly as fuck.

>>22669089
>My opinion is the true greatness of European culture is scepticism
No wonder your race is so cucked. As a sinophile I'd love to see every single one of you oversocialized faggots strewn up and tortured.

>>22675312
Jews

>>22668702
Sounds like cuck logic.

>>22672235

Some of my favorite books are unironically War and Peace, The first half of Asimov's Foundation series, the Sword of Truth series, The Picture of Dorian Grey, Gulliver's Travels, and just about anything by Alex Beyman.

The Clan of the Cave Bear and its first sequel were good, but they drag on dreadfully as it progresses, but I still remember reading it happily. The Dark Tower series is nice, at least halfway through, before it gets kinda sloppy, but as for a nice stand-alone book, The Once and Future King is such a classic, and it really does stick with you.

I don't really mind uncomfortable questions, because I only take being transgender as seriously as is reasonable.

If you want to chat with me more, my XMPP address is kitten@jabber.sk
Gajim is a good client for PC and Conversations works for Android.

>>22668914
I don't like a single one of you insipid cunts, so if I had to talk to YOU for a prolonged period of time, I'd eventually withhold murderous thoughts.

>>22668632
Read the Enchiridion and avoid Aurelius.

>>22668632
You take the Epicureanism pill and read Lucretius' De Rerum Natura

>>22668642
>transgenderism was made up within the last 10 years
If you honestly think this, 10 years ago, you'd have been about 4.

>>22673974
>>22673964
kill yourself

Stoicism is about acting in accordance with nature not cutting off your dick.

>>22675606
Dilate. Every supposed precedent to modern trannyism is false. 'Third genders' in indigenous cultures are mostly subgenders, women being restricted to their role, and are just outcroppings of socially approved bottoming. Sacred hermaphroditism has a totally different context, and is always a journey in to the undivided which ends with a return to your actual sex. Intersexual people like Herculine Barbin don't actually compromise the division of sexes, in spite of all legalistic screeching a good rule will have exceptions, exceptions and selective application of a rule do not compromise the rule they merely form a part of it. Even Martha P Johnson was a crossdresser and not a tranny. Gay sex has existed forever but gay identity is a specifically modern interpretation, identifying with your lowest aspect to fill your hollowness and lack of personality. The same is true of transgenders.

You are Shinji not Asuka, wake up, WAKE UP

>>22668632
HRRRGGG

This chick makes me as hard as a rock but I hate her politics. I end up watching her on mute so I can jack off.

>>22669169
That ass looks male.

>>22668632
If I were you, I wouldnt be too concerned with trannyism in philosophy, unless your a tranny yourself.

>>22669612
>>22669639
>I'm fine with any pronouns and fine with being a male.
Because you pass, why would you care?

>I don't really know what the slogans are about. That seems more like a leftist/activist thing.
Those slogans are to compensate for the people who don't pass. It wouldn't just be for the passing only.

..
>If I was unable to be a beautiful transgender girl, then I would just live the life I currently have and continue to do things as I do them, such as reading, softball, having a job, etc etc.
>Due to the fact that I pass perfectly, I just am a girl in addition to all else I do.

At first I was wondering if you had a sort of empathy to you, but I wonder if it's just your luck now. Are you that "attractive" that if you were to suddenly not be a "unable to be a beautiful transgender girl" as you put it then you would live a normal life? So you tell me. Was it out of dysphoria or just out of being so attractive, that you could just pick one option one day and the other day it would be just fine?

Only the passing get to play this social game because by definition they pass and they know it themselves. For the non-passers it doesn't work that way, and the problem shouldn't just be diverted to "well okay, well maybe they're beautiful in different ways" or leftism or liberalism is only for the non-passers idea of ideological detachment. That's the point of "leftism," it's to cover for that systemic issue. It's to compensate for what is so easily given to you.

>>22677469
You know he's a British plant, right?

>>22668632
>how do i avoid the stoicism-to-tranny pipeline?
Don't be left-wing scum.

>>22678744
>plant
Is that a euphemism for "glownigger"?

>>22668632
Just read picrel
>inb4 b-but I-
Not my problem

>>22669589
Turning trad for clout is indicative of the Faustian spirit of the VVestern man. Seizing true power at all costs

>>22677469
>her

>>22679094
Yeah, but he glows in a British hue.

>>22678670
>Was it out of dysphoria or just out of being so attractive, that you could just pick one option one day and the other day it would be just fine?

I pass about as well as OP's picture, so it's not like I'm just raw undercover. I'm aesthetic in a way that's decent looking and gets random compliments. Dysphoria, depression, anxiety. Self-hate, sadness, fear, in that order. I don't think being transgender is absolutely linked with "gender dysphoria." They're only linked because the painful default is having to hide who we are to conform. Our society is extremely rigid in what roles are available. The best we have are nerd vs jock, and as adults, hard labor vs office vs factory, and a multitude of jobs that those concepts break down into. There's not much room for a vivid, dynamic personality. So I can see why leftism concepts pop up often throughout history.

But I'm not a leftist. I have a certain sort of ideal that considers inborn characteristics unimportant in [current-year]. If leftism is an eternal ideal, then I'd simply state that the left hand and right hand must work together in order for the body as a whole to function.

The fundamental idea of "If I was unable to be a beautiful transgender girl, then..." is rooted in the fact that I demand life and I demand a reason to exist. I didn't choose to be me, but I don't regret it. If I was born ugly and manly to the point that passing is just a joke, then I don't really know what I'd do. The vertiginous question weighs on me every now and then, and thus I ponder that if I couldn't pass at the 80%+ rate, then maybe I'd just find something else to do. For me personally, I can't help but feel like I'd be able to find a reason to live.

Fundamentally, I am sane, and have surely transferred every element of "insanity" into a single wicked box called "transgender," where I quarantine every silly, stupid thing in my mind, and leave the rest free to function pragmatically and logically, in a way that exudes true idealistic beauty and sanity. Being self-aware of the illogic of being transgender lets me focus on my aesthetic as a person, rather than naively trying to pass, and foolishly wearing overcompensating garments that fail to flatter me and instead, just make me look stupid. I do not let myself look stupid, even if I'm stuck being a little quirky.

And to that end, I think other transgender people are still "others" to me. I'm not necessarily friends with them automatically. In another thread, I had written that one should choose friends based on their kindness, personality, hobbies, merits, and other things that make a person an interesting individual. The exact opposite of that would be how you determine your allies, where an ally is chosen quite specifically based on their race, gender, sex, religion, ideology, or other characteristics like that.

Friends and allies are opposing concepts. Allies don't exist in a world of peace. Friends don't exist in a world of war.

>>22668907

For every trans that "passes" there's 20 hideous goblins running around with a wig.

Indian here, why do you guys hate trans so much?
Do you see them everyday?

I almost never see those people, so I don't even have an opinion about them.

>>22674794
My reply was to OP who's asking how to avoid trooning out, who the fuck are you?

>>22679922
We are not interested in the story of how you went insane from very minor and ordinary neglect and being ignored by your peers. Its nothing but boredom and thwarted self importance. We are not interested. We do not care. If you are really the fallen angel mutant singularity which all trannies see themselves as, the do something singular and inignorable. Cultivate yourself in silence for a decade, and do something. Otherwise, visit someplace impoverished and learn that there is something real called suffering, and that it is not just a lack of acknowledgement.

>>22679922
I have several questions, none of which relate to your gender or appearance and please refrain from going off topic into that.
>Dysphoria, depression, anxiety. Self-hate, sadness, fear, in that order. I don't think being transgender is absolutely linked with "gender dysphoria."
A) Do you have middle class parents who had you in therapy since a young age for a divorce or ADHD or something like that?
B) If not, are these self diagnosed illnesses? Where did you get the idea you have general depression or generalized anxiety disorder?

>Fundamentally, I am sane, and have surely transferred every element of "insanity" into a single wicked box called "transgender,"
C) You talk like someone who consumes a great deal of pop-psychology media. Do you do this? Do you often find yourself watching videos where people use this sort of analogical language to describe their own self concept/mental processes?
>Picrel
D) Not specifically princesses and girly shit since we aren't going into gender, but did you often find yourself pretty into kiddy shit well into adulthood?

If Marcus Aurelius and Seneca were alive today they'd probably say that trannies are the least stoic people on the whole planet

>>22674794
Flawless

>>22675606
transgenderism was created by obama
unironically

>>22668632
Looks like the giant from Twin Peaks

>>22668698
What does economic inequality have to do with trans stuff ? I can be worried about both things at the same time

For all intents and purposes, trannies are demon possessed. They play host to this entity which subsumes their normal self, which demands that they progressively mutiliate their bodies and wipe themselves from the gene pool, and finally that they seek out other susceptible hosts by which this entity can perpetuate itself.

>>22668632
i am gonna desu post, even though i need to slow down.

i think all you are saying is that Novice Level Philosophy is specifically for kids

>>22680771

Your questions are very strange to read, considering how they're almost all based on stereotypical assumptions and none of them seem to "hit home," in terms of me thinking "Oh wow, what a great question! This guy is really starting to understand me."

Instead, they read almost more like insults or assumptions, as if you think that you are about to "crack the case on what those stupid trannies are REALLY all about!"

I really wonder how much crossover you have with >>22680893 who is claiming that trannies are possessed by demons, and have to seek a host before they finish removing all of their organs and finally scoop out their brain to place it into the most innocent child's skull, thus to continue their tortured existence.

Could you ponder that perhaps it's more likely that "pop psychology" is a concept that literally does not interest me, that my reference to things like "dysphoria, depression, anxiety," are meant to refer to some extremely common feelings people feel these days, and as for what I'm into "well into adulthood," is actually probably books, philosophy, science, computer stuff, and fashion, and I have no idea what you're even implying. Are you just trying to find a crack in me so you can mock me or something?

I just wonder what your real motives are, and it's not so much that I couldn't assume. It's just that if I was as assuming towards you as you are towards me, then rather assume that I'm just some dumbass weirdo tranny, I'd have to assume that you are a fundamentally malicious person who speaks in bad-faith.

If this isn't true, what could I ask to prove that your intentions are pure? Would yo be able to prove it? Tented fingers like that don't make me feel like you are doing anything other than playing "psychologist with an agenda," so perhaps that ought to change before I can trust you and know that your intentions are pure of heart.

>>22680935
>I really wonder how much crossover you have with >>22680893 # who is claiming that trannies are possessed by demons, and have to seek a host before they finish removing all of their organs and finally scoop out their brain to place it into the most innocent child's skull, thus to continue their tortured existence.

Those are some particular embellishments. I didn't think that shit, that's what's in your diseased head.

>>22670249
>Group 2 is mostly harmless

>>22670097
Lmao he's just making fun of you.

>>22680935
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened. Retarded ass troon.

>>22680955

>Those are some particular embellishments. I didn't think that shit, that's what's in your diseased head.

They sure are embellishments, but you go right on to deny the possibility of this being a literature board where fictional creativity can exist, and go on to insult me with an extremely STOOOOPID insult like "diseased head."

HOW BORING! You are such a loser! If you ever got a book published, I'd call you a talentless hack! Too bad you won't, you total loser. Embellishing the truth is the job of my enemies, but don't you complain when I have a go at it! You cowardly loser. (You literally need to be insulted because you have clearly lost touch with reality here and have forgotten what it's like to be on the other side of peoples' insults.)

As an entire demographic of "people that hate trannies," insults and lies and stereotypes are all you people know. Scroll up the thread and take note of how malicious your side is. Look at all those pictures people made to try to demoralize me. Is that benevolence and truth? No, those are insults. Your side is made up of sadistic bullies with black hearts.


DEMONS! BOO!

Are we talking Memetic-Viruses here, or are you some sort of religious fanatic ideologist who believes in esoteric mythology? Like how far do you go with your insults as they overlap onto your actual worldview? I understand that you're just making up facts to insert into your propaganda lies. Well, the further you go into BOOO DEMONS! The more reasonable it is for me to conflate that with JEFF BEZOS AND ELON MUSK HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO LITERALLY REMOVE THEIR BRAIN AND PUT IT INTO A CHILD NAMED ELOFF BELON. Bill Gates was only left out because he ate too much poop.

Seriously, if you are going to spin lies in the first place, such as """For all intents and purposes, trannies are demon possessed. They play host to this entity which subsumes their normal self, which demands that they progressively mutiliate their bodies and wipe themselves from the gene pool, and finally that they seek out other susceptible hosts by which this entity can perpetuate itself.""" Then how dare you condemn me for taking it a step further and REALLY putting the pedal to the metal?

Face it. If society was to vote on where to put YOUR brain, it'd be right into a trashcan. You write boring fictional literature and when I take it up a notch, you just start whining like a pathetic loser. Grow some balls, loser.

>>22681176

Go ahead and try reading it. I understand that your entire worldview is fundamentally forged by cowardice, stupidity, malice, and falsity, but have a go at it!

I bet if you sound out the bigger words with phonetics, you can get through it eventually.

>>22681196
>cowardice
Common troon L. You call people cowards when your bitch ass decided to larp as a femoid because you couldnt hang as a man.

>>22681249

At your core, you are fundamentally a coward.
That word resonates with you, and as a defense-mechanism, you accuse others that which you yourself are guilty of. That's why out of all the anti-ideals I had just listed, that was the one that stood out to you.

Cowardice is the root of your existence.

I stand for higher ideals. Courage, nobility, bravery, wisdom, honor, and the simple fact that Civilization rests upon the back of Atlas.

And we are Atlas. All of us. I do not want you to be my enemy. But what I see from this thread suggests that people are willing to turn traitor to humanity, by turning traitor to me, when I have committed no crime. I am fully innocent of all things, and yet I am accused.

Thus I weep.

>>22681290
>trans
>nobility
Lmfao, the great nobility of liberalism. Fantastic!

>over 200 posts on this subject of all things
You all have spent days and hundreds of posts feeding attention to a person with narcissistic tendencies (a tranny). You won't succeed in reasoning with it as you're all trying to, well, reason with an individual who's obviously emotionally scarred (if not physically as well).
To truly help these people you need to show them empathy, BUT they need to show it to themselves as well. Basically they need help and therapy, however currently it's more beneficial to grift them into killing themselves slowly and while consuming a lot of fairly expensive drugs(or going through expensive procedures). Even if they don't have that kind of money, we're changing regulations to confirm their delusions in order to charge the taxman instead of a mentally ill individual.
Which, again, is fine in principle, if you're actually providing treatment and not taking advantage of on underclass.
This, as things are right now, the only thing you can do for such an individual is try to accept them as they are. As in, accept them with their issues, tiptoe around things you need to tiptoe around(you wouldn't make rape jokes around a rape victim, so don't force gender related issues). Sadly, what some troons say is in some way true, most people dismiss them because of issues they have with themselves and not with people suffering from this or that delusion in particular.

/litttt/'s in full swing today
>>22681290
Are you gay or straight?
How do you imagine yourself growing old?

>>22681196
>>22681290
Plebbit spacing

At least 4chan troon are edgy and interesting.

>>22680935
I am a new guy, I haven't been involved in this conversation at all I simply was interested in your responses to the questions and I'm not really interested in gender at all. I do think the way your responded is... interesting, thoughever.

>>22679922
you're literally proving my point that passoids lack empathy..

>>22680627
kek, nailed it.

>>22674794
lmao, got em

>>22680627
lol, burn.

>>22668698
10 years ago the existence of a trans teenager was novel enough to be worthy of a TLC show
20 Years ago trannies appearing in anything was fitting only for trashy day time tv like jerry Springer or salacious HBO shows.
30 years ago you couldn't even talk about them except in clinical terms, gossip rags or niche porn.

>>22668914
How am I supposed to stand by and watch a friend kill themselves through delusion and clinical procedure?
Want kind of friend would I be by allowing that to happen when I could have done something to stop it?

>>22668949
>I still won't ever call you ma'am
Would fit the metre better.

>>22668698
I don't just decide to think about trannies, the topic is constantly forced on me and the propaganda is glaring. Sure, it's a tiny proportion of the population but the growth in acceptance of such delusions is the problem, not the amount who are deluded itself (although that is growing at insane rates too). Ywnbaw

>>22684717

The amount of pro-transgender propaganda relative to the transgender population is probably roughly equal to the amount of hatred towards transgender people relative to the transgender population.

Stop hating transgender people and the propaganda disappears.

>>22668642
We've had trannies since the dawn of time faggot.

wait this isnt salma hayek

>>22686297
Yeah, right.

>>22669612
You talk like a man. I'm sorry, anon, but while your tone is effeminate, it nonetheless marks you as masculine. A woman simply doesn't write like you do.

Trust a trannie to read Meditations instead of the discourses, typical reddit behaviour.

>>22686373
Yes correct, these accounts are easily accessible

>>22669612
you've been posting a lot but you never show yourself.
i think you look rather mannish.

>>22669612
You will never be a woman.

>>22668655
Why on earth would I do that?
I can already tell the difference between a gay man and a woman

>>22686465
The accounts are nonexistent

>>22668698
it's not the internet, it's the media industry

is "breadtube" still a thing? i remember the media was promoting it alot 2-3 years ago

>>22669099
based diogenes
>>22669612
>Due to the fact that I pass perfectly
one look at your broad male shoulders will disprove this

>>22668632
What a disgusting cretin, why does anyone take these people seriously...every single one spouts the same YouTube approved garbage all while going full grift, with ads, sponsorships and a patreon link on every video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zQuu0tJgYFk1/

>>22689040
not really. twitch still wastes a lot of money and internal resources trying to signal boost hassan but the rest of them are mostly confined to a stagnant viewership. i don't think the overarching mass-conversion ploy ever worked out either, they just played to the biases of existing "leftists" and cashed their cheques