/lit/ - Literature

I do love Fellini, an awful lot.

I have fairly uninteresting taste in films - Coen Brothers, Ang Lee, David Lynch

I have seen this exact post with the same picture in /mu/. Anyways I'm pretty entry level to film but I like (seen more than 3 films of) Stanley Kubrick, Frank Capra, Woody Allen, David Lynch, Elia Kazan, Fellini, and Christopher Nolan.

>Godard
J'ai arrêté de lire à partir de là.

OP, this copypasta doesn't have the same trolling effect here as it does on /tv/.

you took all the cool ones. well, besides those there's altman and chris marker and woody allen.

i can't stand italian films, though.

>>2261681
That makes me Ang Lee. You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.

>>2261692
I know I don't post it on other boards to troll them but because I know /mu/ and /lit/ have better taste and like to discuss good movies ;)

>>2261691
regardez-lui, il est trop cool pour aimer godard.

>>2261694
You have good taste in comedy.

The only film I've ever looked forward to is The Tim and Eric Billion Dollar Movie.

Coen Brothers and Werner Herzog

>>2261673
For more movies like Marienbad, check out the ones directed by its screenwriter, Alain Robbe-Grillet. Pic related - Eden and After.

>>2261697
Es-tu en train d'insinuer que Godard a réalisé autre chose que de pures merdes prétentieuses et ennuyeuses?

>do you like my breasts?
>oh yeah
>and my feet?
>yeah
>and my armpits? do you like them?
>yeah
>ad infinitum, with a shitty background music

Kubrick, Lynch, Carpenter, Coen Bros. PTA is good too.

>>2261723
The man does like the female body.

>>2261673

YAAAAAAAAWN

Brakhage, Mekas, Kren

>>2261729

Le Grice, Lawder, Lye

>>2261723
you just picked the most obvious line of dialogue to dismiss him but we both know its not representative of his movies
also you can hate him all you want i also hate him sometimes but unless you're trolling i cant let you call delerue's beautiful score 'shitty background music'

>>2261729
what are your favorite brakhage pieces

also what is your least favorite mekas film

>>2261729
>hurr hipster victory look at me
experimental filmmakers are cool but if those are your favorites you musnt like cinema a great deal

>>2261730
tell me about le grice

Herzog, Fincher, Nolan, Wong Kar-Wai, John Woo, Coen Brothers,

Terry Gilliam, Alexander Jodorowsky, Cocteau

>>2261742
those aren't hipster, he's probably a 17 year old rym user

Ozu, Tarr, Hou Hsiao-Hsien, Mizoguchi, Satyajit Ray, Chantal Akerman, late Welles, Kiarostami.

Godard made one good film: Pierrot le fou. Rest is "le caca." Rosselini is better than bloated Fellini and Antonioni.

I have nothing bad to say about Resnais. That guy's a genius.

>>2261752
>Godard made one good film: Pierrot le fou
and you probably seen like 7 of them

>>2261752
>Godard made one good film: Pierrot le fou

But Pierrot le fou is like a greatest-hits collection of bits from his earlier movies. What about those?

welles was a very intelligent man

I'm a huge Orson Welles

>>2261742

I don't. It can go fuck itself. I've watched maybe 3 films in the last 6 months. Rest of my time has been spent reading.

>>2261752
4 u sandwiches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sZ-iyQ733A&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piravi

>>2261739

I wouldn't like to comment when there's so many I obviously haven't seen; I'm desperate to see 'Panels for the walls of heaven' for instance, as Fred Camper's description of it makes it sound just incredible.

As far as the one's I have seen, however, it's a toss-up between For Marilyn, Delicasies of Molten Horror Synapse, and Boulder Blue Pearls and...

>>2261743

What is there to say about Le Grice, except that Berlin Horse is perhaps the most beautiful film ever made? Not even his hilariously super-serial strucuralist nonsense about how/why he made it can tarnish it.

>>2261758
Meh. I used to like him, now I just find him repetitive and arrogant. I have no interest in rewatching his films.
>>2261763
> Pierrot is like a greatest hits
Yes, that's exactly why it's worthwhile.

>>2261749

what the fuck is an rym user?

>>2261811
Partakes in a certain bedroom practice.

>>2261734
It's not shitty but it doesn't fit the situation. It's supposed to be dramatic and shit and the music's climax is reached at "do you like my buttocks?" I couldn't help but burst into laughter when I watched that scene.

>>2261811

It's this hip new drug that makes you super cool for about 6 hours. Terrible come down though.

>>2261813

>implying Godard isn't intentionally funny

I swear there's so much avant garde stuff that has had massive problems with audiences because they have a woefully unsubtle grasp of register.

It's like Gertrude Stein said about her stuff, by all means laugh, but at least realise I'm laughing too, then everyone's having much more fun.

>>2261794
> hakas
> hey, he's from /lit/, what's he doing on /fa/
> i'm on /lit/

Damn. I thought I was posturing to some kids in skinny jeans and hitler youth haircuts. Sorry for the heavy-handed pretension, guys. I actually only watch Will Ferrell movies.

And cool link. Fav'd.

>>2261818
yeah godard's a good example of that some people watch his movies being all serious and shit expecting some mind-blowing arthouse stuff when they're just there very playful and sexy and immature little films

People who dislike Godard often seem to laud Truffaut to the same degree. I'm always suspicious of this.

Truffaut 'attacked' the established modes in the way a body builder develops a muscle by breaking it first; he ultimately strengthened the institutional mode of representation by handing it a whole new cache of weapons. Godard's also guilty of this, but he was at least sufficiently disgusted with himself to slide off into hilarious agitprop and then return some years later with a beautiful nihilism.

>>2261828
> Godard returns later with a beautiful nihilism
I too, once believed that. Have you seen JLG/JLG or King Lear? Mind you, In Praise of Love is a goood film.

Jean Cocteau
Frank Borzage
Victor Erice
Jacques Demy
Maurice Pialat

>>2261813
Nigga watch A Woman Is a Woman, Band Apart and then go back to Pierrot.

>no one has mentioned the best director in the world

You're lying! I never hit you! You're tearing me apart, lit!

>>2261866

If you think Band a part is better than Pierrot there's something really wrong with you. I suggest you rush to the hospital as soon as possible.

>>2261813
> soundtrack doesn't fit

That's kind of the point. He's deep&edgy like that.

>>2261845

Film Socialisme is meant to be his best film.

>>2261872
Never said it was better, but you can't really expect Pierrot to be entirely serious if you're remotely familiar with some of his earlier films.

>>2261878
it really isnt where the fuck did you read that

>>2261878
it's probably his most accessible one. from the late period.

>>2261878
That depends on how much you prefer pretty visuals over any semblance of characters or story.

I didn't like Socialism, and I liked quite a few other late period Godard movies ('79 to '85 is especially notable).

laughing tbh all these europeans are freaking boring. tbh in order to get through most of them i googled the script and read that instead.

>>2261892
>how much you prefer pretty visuals over any semblance of characters or story.
>implying pretty visuals aren't the entire point of cinema

oh boi i bet you read books about dragons too

>>2261898

>pretty visuals aren't the entire point of cinema

This is what butthurt neckbeards actually believe

Tsai Ming-Liang, Haneke, Lisandro Alonso, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, late David Lynch (fuck Blue Velvet, Inland Empire is where it's at) and Almodovar.

>>2261893
film is a visual medium, if you think you're gonna get anything from reading a tarkovsky's script you're doing it wrong

>>2261902
cry more

>>2261898
Sure, pretty visuals are great. Got to have something more to make me want to watch a couple of hours of them, though.

>>2261892

>That depends on how much you prefer pretty visuals over any semblance of characters or story.

um, I think I massively prefer the former. Why would I prefer the latter?

>>2261911
he's the film equivalent of a genrefag

>>2261907

>Sure, beautiful music is great. Got to have something more to make me want to listen to a couple of hours of it, though.

and that's why I watch Brakhage

visual music up in this shit yo

>>2261907
Every image is as complex as a grammatical sentence, full of elements that have meaning by themselves and in addition to the rest. Moreover, the sequence conveys a different meaning to the image and the sequence itself has its own significance. Each image is as complex as a grammatical sentence. Dialogue is an addition that can either reinforce the visual discourse or contradict it, but it's not an indispensable part of it.

>>2261904
you're talking about stalker right yeah tbh a hour of the characters walking quietly in order to show off visual masturbation may have been impressive back in his era but watching it in 2011 when being used to hollywood cinematography doesn't exacty leave me in awe

If any of you guys haven't watched Satantango a minimum of 3 times, you have no business posting in this thread.

Anyone seen The Turin Horse?

>>>/tv/19951519

>>2261930

what

but (modern) hollywood cinematography is beyond ass

you must mean contemporary hollywood editing

i.e. that there's a cut every 3 seconds because they worked out that's the limit of attention

Steven Shaviro writes some good stuff in post-cinematic affect about how modern hollywood has taken on the paradigm of the computer code, in that formal techniques are now utilised to direct the viewers affective experience in a relentless 'any-means-necessary' manner rather than to really 'mean' anything; a programming language being a language which works by unambiguous commands rather than ambiguous meaning.

>>2261911
>>2261915
>>2261920

Heh, this is like being on match-cut.

Film isn't about visuals, it's about telling a story. Thats why so many people love it, its like reading but without having to concentrate.

Would you guys read a book that had beautiful prose but no plot twists? I doubt it.

>>2261947

10/10, because its possible you're for real.

>>2261942
that is an interesting fact i didn't know. thanks for sharing. i will definitely look into it
but yes maybe i'm asking too much, i just didn't feel the need to waste my time staring at 3 people hiking and doing nothing

>>2261947

Is this art? I don't see any story.

>>2261947
thats what you've been brainwashed by hollywood to believe

>>2261947

I fixed your post for you, this is what it should say:

>Film isn't about visuals, it's about telling a story. Thats why so many people love it, its like reading but without having to concentrate.

now that has some true trolling potential

>>2261947

>Film isn't about visuals, it's about telling a story.

Film is about whatever one wants it to be.

> Thats why so many people love it, its like reading but without having to concentrate.

What kind of comparison is that? Watching a movie is nothing like reading and....

>Would you guys read a book that had beautiful prose but no plot twists? I doubt it.

Fuck, I've been trolled.

>>2261942
im seriously considering picking up The Cinematic Body tbh btw thanks

I don't watch many movies, but I saw a really good one a long time ago, it was called the fall. Check it out if you like good movies.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460791/
http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2473321/4984144/

I can't watch anything with subtitles, honestly, too much effort and coordination. I want to watch a movie, not read text under the movie. I also can't sit through old black and white films, they're just too visually dull, there is nothing I can aesthetically relate to in older films. The worst has to be silent films, I tried to watch Faust once, literally fell asleep minutes into the film. I'm not trolling, but people who watch these films are trying to enjoy them so they can name drop filmmakers to sound artsy and sophisticated. Greatest films of all time? Star Wars. Fuck you fags.

>>2261942
Gotta remember to grab this at the library.

Are you familiar with Vilem Flusser at all? I've taken a fancy to him as of late.

>>2261990
/tv/, that you?

whats the deal with grouping Christopher Nolan in with directors like Godard and tarkovsky?

>>2261998
it's me mike <3

>>2261990
Confirmed American.
HUUR DUUUR WHY NOT U SPEAK ENGLSH? IS TALK OF CIVILIZATION YES?!?!?!!!

If I had to say one director, it might just be Lars von Trier.

Haters gonna hate.

>>2261994

Nah, and reading his wiki it doesn't sound like he'd interest me.

Currently have Peter Gidal's Materialist Film on my to-read shelf, other than that I'm not really engaged in film much at the moment.

>>2262003
hey that's not as bad as hipsters thinking crap from larry clark (kids) as "good cinema"

>>2262003

unreflective taste reared in a consumerist hell is what

>>2262022
But I don't hear any Larry Clark fan (lol, >implying there's such a thing as Larry Clark fans) comparing him to fucking Chabrol or Dovzhenko.

>>2262023
>unreflective taste reared in a consumerist hell is what
16 year old detected

>>2262022

to be fair the soundtrack to kids rules rules rules

>>2262027
oh gosh, thanks for the reminder, i have some of these in the fridge i'm about to heat up

>>2262028
implying chabrol is anything but average

Kurosawa, Gilliam, Scott, Varda, Miyazaki.
Many of course, these just have multiple great films in their ...catalogue ...Canon. Fu-! The "ov-" word escapes me. Wtf? You get the idea.

>>2262408
oeuvre

ps. varda sucks and you know it

Kubrick, Godard and Coppola
I know, boring and generic, but ehhh

>>2261717
Where the fuck can I get this?

Can find it nowhere.

>>2261717
so Robbe-Grillet's films are good? I'm trying to get my hands on some of Duras' films

>>2262411
Ah! The 'e' threw me off.
And I do love Varda. Her unconventional choices are sweet and subtle.
I always preach balance, so I guess she satisfies a need that the other greats don't. Kubrick can never do a Wes Anderson, Cronenberg can't do a Henson, etc.

woody allen
Bergman
Kurosawa
Coen Bros.
Kubrick
wes anderson
Errol Morris
Jarmusch
Herzog
Altman
Scorsese
hitchcock
Coppola, Francis Ford and Sophia
terry gilliam
PTA
Lynch
tarantino
rami
verhoven

>>2261903
>Alonso
>Laughing argentinian girls.
Argentinian new new new wave sucks as. Our country hasn't made any really good movies since the 70's.

No mention of Sion Sono. Everyone is years behind in everything.

Tarkovsky, Buster Keaton, Bergman, Wong Kar-Wai, Kurosawa, David Lean

Many of my favorite films are non-auteur e.g. My Fair Lady and Becket, Divorce, Italian Style, etc

>>late Welles
how late? Lady from Shanghai late or Chimes at Midnight late?


>>Godard made one good film: Pierrot le fou. Rest is "le caca."
I thought I was the only one. After slaving away through Masculin Feminine, Vivre Sa Vie (easily the most pretentious film of all time, she got bored as a housewife and decided to prostitute herself, bitch had it coming), Made in the USA, and parts of la Chinoise, I just gave up.

Breathless was decent.

Truffaut isn't getting any mention, which is great.

I think there are several types of good directors. I believe Nolan is a great director for blockbusters and Fincher can make a thriller right, but none of them are my favourite directors. I also like guys like Bergman and Tarkovsky, I think they are brilliant in every way, but they also don't make my type of movie.

I like american outcasts, I realized this. American cinema that doesn't care about Oscars and it's authoral. Orson Welles comes to mind, specially with F for Fake. Kubrick was like that too, reclusive and brilliant. I like him more than I should, I was obsessed with Kubrick for some time and I read everything I could find on him, I'm not some guy who just saw Clockwork Orange, I feel a very deep bond with Kubrick, though I don't think I'm the only one to feel that way. And today, I think the only directors that can live up to that are the Coens. I think people underrate the Coens, even if they like them. Their movies usually don't make an impression like Kubrick's, but that's exactly where I think their brilliance relies. I honestly believe there is no film as deep as The Big Lebowski, which for most just passes as a stoner comedy with some good lines. I've seen an awful lot of shit, but none like The Big Lebowski. A Serious Man, Hudsucker Proxy and Barton Fink are also favourites.

I like several other directors though, Fritz Lang, Lynch, Paul Thomas Anderson, Fellini, Kurosawa. Motherfucking Kurosawa, I love him so much. Some directors are also just as brilliant in their jobs, but their movies variy in quality because of factors other than them. Peter Weir is an example of that, Lasse Hallstrom too, Milos Forman... Ford was also brilliant, but I dislike his films overall. Hell, even Spielberg is like that, too bad he waste his talent with crap.

cont.

>>2262472
Gore Verbinski did the Pirates of the Caribean trilogy, which no one will ever take it seriously with the other big names I threw here, but he is a fantastic director and his job in those films was just impressive. People usually think that because the director has the most creative control over the material it means their movies are going to be masterpieces. It's a job too. Some movies I like so much, but I dislike the director. Blade Runner is one of my favourite films, but I can't stand Ridley Scott.

I also love Sydney Lumet, his films are very close to us. I think Fincher is somehow like him and I like where he is heading. Woody Allen is also a fantastic director, people seem to forget how good he is over the fact that he also writes very well and acts in a lot of his films. There are some weak Allen films, but even the weakest will show you a phrase or an idea that is inspiring and new. I can't dismiss other great directors like Scorcese, Coppolla or Gilliam, but I'm not always on their side. Sergio Leoni is also one of my favourite directors. Lars von Trier also has shown some nice material recently, but it's not really of my taste. Refn is a good promise for the future, but he needs to grow up a little, though he has talent. I dislike Terrence Mallick completely, I really feel he is an empty man with mostly poor films.

cont.

Although Resnais made two of my favorite films, overall he's quite inconsistent.

I watched Muriel after reading Sontag's review, and she was spot on. It's has all the techniques but it's "unloveable"; after Muriel I did not deign to explore his later works, given their relatively poor reputation.

>>2262474
And movies are movies, you can't reduce them to what they are not like literature or paintings. There is also nothing stopping them from having one less element, silent movies are movies too, non-narrative movies are movies too, movies where the visual is not important are movies too. A movie is what happends in between two frames, the black line between them that we don't notice. It's gives the illusion that the two frames in question are connected not in space, but in time. That is enough. A good movie will ressonate with you in the given moment, in the given context, it will make you feel and think or just feel or just think, but it will mess with you somehow.

>>2261717
I don't remember that scene from Star Wars

>>2262482
George just keeps adding with each remastered release.

Wendell B. Harris for the motherfucking win.

I also like Jarmusch films, but it's hard to get into his style. The Limits of Control is way easier for people who have seen Ghost Dog or Dead Man first.

Also, Takashi Miike. yeah, I said it. The man is a genius.

>>2261811
>2011
>not using the greatest film rating site (that wasn't even a film related site to begin with)

sofiacoppola and clint eastwood

>Slobbering satisfaction face.jpg

I like /lit/'s film threads, even though they tend to be dominated by name dropping.

I tend to enjoy silent films, but mostly for their historical value, whether it is how Calligari relates to the german situation or how Metropolis uses a mixture of the most prominent styles of it's time. But I don't find them atracting beyond that.
I went to see the most resent re-release of Metropolis with the new footage found and it kept feeling like an old blockbuster, it was just a very basic message surrounded by adventure.

Kubrick and Lynch were hacks.

There, I said it.

>>2262513
I agree with that opinion of Lynch. I think he's a lolsodeepandedgy guy who pioneered that shtick. Burton took it and ran with it.

>>2262502
I agree with you about Metropolis, but Caligari is fucking objectively spectacular.

I'm not ordinarily a fan of silent film. The kicks I get out of it are not the ones intended by the creators.

>>2262517
Burton? Tim?
What do his films have to do with Lynch's?

>>2262523
http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?32276-Filmaker-Wars-David-Lynch-vs.-Tim-Burton

They're both lolsoedgy filmmakers. Lynch built a career out of nonsense movies that abused the surreal and banal and mundane. Burton condensed Lynch's aesthetic down to Johnny Depp and Hot Topic-able tshirts.

>>2262523
People who know nothing about cinema tend to think they have similar styles. Or that's what I can infer from that stupid post.

>>2262534
No.

>>2262534
>David Lynch
>Tim Burton
>similar

What?

>>2262534
I'll read the articule in a little, or maybe tomorrow since I'm tired as fuck and threads last days in /lit/. But I don't see it.
Burton condensed his own style into hot topic because he wanted more money to buy more cocaine for his wife, the shit he does now is just Beetlejuice without sould.
Lynch tends to have a motive in his films, if you find it you get most of the message. Saying his films are just loledgy nonsens is like saying Dostoyevsky enjoyed writting long books to look smarter. Don't be that kind of person, anon, you are better than that.

>>2262550
Witout soul
Or sold out.
I'm not even sure which one I wanted to write.

Also, article.

>>2262480
did one of your high-school student write that?

>>2262534
Come on, man.
That forum seems pretty stupid. They could be asking "who is better: David Lynch or a Microwave" and it would be pretty much the same thing.

Also, see the pic. It was the first answer. You can't be that stupid.

Finally, it's this thread.

>Who are yours?

Kubrick, Scorsese, David Lean, Fellini, Kurosawa, Woody Allen, Coen Brothers, Werner Herzog, Tarkovsky, Orson Welles, Ingmar Bergman, Miyazaki, ect..

Why does everyone like Kurosawa so much?

Rashomon was underwhelming.

>>2262631
>Judging a director solely based on one of his works
Seriously guy?

>>2262631
Have you ever herped so hard you derped?

>>2262635
Did I judge Kurosawa? Can you quote where I said anything about him? I asked a question, but to please you, how about this:

Why does everyone praise Rashomon so much?

Kubrick, Welles, Jodorowsky, Charlie Kaufman, Kurosawa

Have to see all of, or at least a significant amount of a director the call him a favorite. Included Kaufman since he writes amazing stuff and I have a love for his stuff common with the rest even though he hasn't directed them.

As for directors I like, pretty much most of this thread. Not much into Jarmusch or Lynch. PTA and Coen bros close contenders into favorites. I like Wes Anderson, Michele Gondry and Spike Jones, they may not be massively liked but their films are unique and enjoyable.

>>2262631
part of the reason it might have seemed underwhelming to you is that so many movies since have been influenced by/taken inspiration from Rashomon that the groundbreaking methods and ideas it brought to the table seem commonplace to you, though that's really not an excuse because rashomon still does all of them better than any of its emulators

>>2262640
Roshomon was influential in the way it manipulated the story which was being told. It had never really been done much in cinema before hand. I feel it's one of his weaker films but that's likely due to the story technique being ripped off a hundred times over and by the time I'd gotten to Rashomon, I wasn't experiencing anything new.

You questioned the likeability of Kurosawa and listed only one of his films as a basis for judgement.

Jean-Luc Godard, Stan Brakage, Vincent Gallo, Harmony Korine, Jacques Rivette, Ben Rivers, Michael Robinson, Philippe Grandrieux, Martin Arnold, Peter Kubelka, John Cassavetes, Yasujirô Ozu, Andy Warhol, Carl Theodor Dreyer, Andrei Tarkovsky, and Wong-Kar Wai.

They've been the most consistent hitters for me; Godard and Brakhage the most interesting, Dreyer probably the most consistently great starting from The Passion of Joan of Arc. 'Alone. Life Wastes Andy Hardy' is my favorite film and I really hope to see what Arnold has come out with in the past few years but I haven't found them anywhere.

I think my favorite films have been the ones that have caused the most interesting reactions in me; I mean, I don't know if I would ever watch 'Andy Hardy' again because, to put it bluntly, I find it fucked up. Likewise, 'Germany Year Ninety Nine Zero' from Godard failed with me, but the play with cinematic rhythms he used in that film (Which he continued in 'Histoire(s) du Cinema') created very interesting moments, which I find valuable as an aspiring filmmaker. I prefer films the create the sharpest or vaguest ambivalence.

Film is for plebs, faggot. A botched and bastardly medium.

>>2261702
This is also my most anticipated film for 2k12, apart from The Dark Knight Rises lol because in actual fact we all know it will be entertaining in a reasonably non-mindless way

The Godard thing, I think, has run its course as a discussion in the thread but even though films like 'Vivre sa Vie' or 'Film Socialisme' are pretentious and films like 'le Mepris' plain shoddy in their production, you have to admit that 'A bout de souffle' has its moments (I'm thinking particularly of that long scene in the bedroom c. middle of the film) despite its reductive parroting of Sartre-isms and was a revolution of sorts in that it did work and make sense despite the style. Godard holistically occupies the sort of position Von Trier does now, an innovator and a great innovator in many ways but often a tedious thinker.
>>2261903
It's interesting you talk about late-Lynch like that cause I recently watched Mulholland Drive after a gap of about five years and similar things occured to me when watching it. That it was made for TV and subsequently retrofitted for film kinda shows I guess and I suppose the sort of split story thing was a late and slightly incongrous addition to what would have developed into a sort of straight narrative, which is kinda why I guess Inland Empire is the better movie. He's sort of grown as a thinker since BV in these movies and he isn't going to cast Mary-sues like the BV laura dern character in any context other than irony.

Godard, Truffaut, the list goes on...

>>2262897
how was laura dern's character a mary sue exactly

>>2262857
Interesting you don't mention Matthew Barney. The Cremaster films, if nothing else, are just great fun.

My favourite director is Fellini (>>2261752: and interested what informs your opinion le sandwich) but I also enjoy stuff like Tarr (not so much for Werckmeister as everything else he's done), Kiarostami, Visconti, Kubrick, Polanski, Malle, Herzog, Wenders (again in quite limited doses), Cocteau, Renoir,

My favourite film may well be Days of Heaven

>>2262899
In Blue Velvet? Have you seen the movie? Isn't she fucking annoying?

>>2262904

>le

Kill yourself.

>>2262905
but theres an irony to the character, theres an irony to the tone of the whole movie
and shes not idealized, she can be grotesque and ridiculous in one scene and be a weird illogical fantasy in the next but even in the case of the latter thats now what a mary sue is

>>2262908
>I don't always respond to overreactions, but when I do, I always post this demeaning macro

>>2262910
Maybe you're right in seeing that irony and maybe that undercuts that saccharine happily-married-ever-after vibe you get at the end of the movie but something tells me that this is just a univalent film about fear and evil and the marriage is just his escape from that sort of problematized parental coupling of Frank and Dorothy, in Lacanian terms, for pretentiousness' sake, from the imaginary to the symbolic. The fantasy of Laura Dern's character is never explicitly transparent as an object and is indeed qualified by marriage and the growth of the main character towards and within that social institution and as such figures more as a real and unthoroughly examined escape from the nightmare of Frank's criminality, than the suburban Scylla to Frank's Charybdis.

>>2262915
Boy do you sound full of yourself

>>2262908
i would agree if sandwich weren't the same in english as it is in french? what the fuck?

>>2262917
>bitter lemon

>>2262904

I vaguely remember reading what must've been over a year ago an interview between an avant-garde film critic (Michael Sicinski) and an interviewer (Scott Macdonald) where something was said about the series along the lines of it being a rehash of certain trends, which honestly I hadn't even looked into yet at the time, but it turned me off.

More recently I had been looking through Sicinski's top tens over the years and noticed one was in there, so I through a scene from the 3rd one...I think I liked it? It was actually quite jarringly funny; I want to look through it sometime.

>>2262923
I think it's number 2 or maybe 5 where he climbs up the guggenheim in a silly costume; it's actually kinda full of suspense cause I'm pretty certain he does it with little stunt related protection and he gets pretty tired before the end. Cremaster 3 is probably the most critically acclaimed and also the one the most money was thrown at so it's probably the one to watch...

Stanley Kubrick, Ingmar Bergman, David Cronenberg and David Lean.

Samuel Fuller, David Lynch, Luis Buñuel, Brian De Palma, Takashi Miike, Alfred Hitchcock, Takashi Miike, Jonathan Demme, Howard Hawks, Martin Scorsese, Robert Altman, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Claire Denis, Buster Keaton, Werner Herzog, Nicholas Ray, John Carpenter, Francois Truffaut

Edward D. Wood, Jr.

Tommy Wiseau

Willard Huyck

Zack Snyder

>>2263083
You're not even trying, pal. Say Michael Bay and tell them you enjoy the simplicity of it. More believable.

ITT: Recommend a film to other anons.

Harakiri 1962, dir: Masaki Kobayashi

My favorite samurai film, storyline is incredibly well crafted and brilliant though may take a while to get into. The visuals are brilliant and the use of odd angles heighten those tenser moments, the lighting is also quite bizarre and used interestingly in a low point in the story. Mysterious and suspenseful story, I think those who enjoy Kurosawa would like this.

>>2263549
dat annoying text wrapping.

Also, in an images search of Harakiri, I found 'Harakiri' to be the name of some french horror/erotica magazine publication in the 60's/70's... if that kind of stuff is more your bag.

>>2263549
Blah blah blah adjective here sugercoat there blah blah blah blah blah

>>2263554
It's a recommendation, it was bound to sound like that. You recommend something now.

>>2263557
I don't give a shit what people waste their time on nor how they go about becoming figuring out how to. I'm not their fucking daddy.

>>2261947
>Would you guys read a book that had beautiful prose but no plot twists?

You mean like poetry?

My favorite science fiction film, storyline is incredibly well crafted and brilliant though may take a while to get into. The visuals are brilliant and the use of odd angles heighten those tenser moments, the lighting is also quite bizarre and used interestingly in a low point in the story. Mysterious and suspenseful story, I think those who enjoy 2001 would like this.

>>2262440
>Where the fuck can I get this?

avaxhome

>>2263654
You're not very good.

But I love the "Transformers" franchise.

>>2261673
Finally someone french who agrees Godard is shit.

My favorite directors are:

Coen Brothers
Jean Pierre Melville
Fritz Lang
Kenji Mizoguchi
Stanley Kubrick(the best)
Max Ophuls(dont get me started)
V.I. Pudovkin
GW Pabst
Charles Laughton(NIGHT OF THE HUNTER)
PTA(One of the best contemporary directors today)
STEVE RODNEY MCQUEEN
David Cronenberg

The list will grow throughout the ages

After seeing and loving Drive, I went back and watched Winding-Refn's other films. He is pretty gosh darn great.

>>2264277
>Kubrick(the best)
Sure, if you enjoy unimaginative, soulless flicks.

Being honest, the film I've enjoyed the most in the last year was Fuck My Old Ass 4.

>>2264281
Not great, but he has potential. He just needs to try to step off his comfort zone (the shameless homage zone [Valhalla being basically Aguire+Stalker and Drive being Le Samouraï+The Transporter]).

>>2264298

Fuck My Old Ass 4 was good, but I thought it ventured too far into self-parody.

For my money, Fuck My Old Ass 2 is as good as it gets.

>>2263549

>Harakiri 1962, dir: Masaki Kobayashi

This is my favorite film depicting the Edo period, and I highly recommend it to anybody even if you aren't a fan of samurai movies.

Make sure to watch these three,

Pierrot le Fou
Closely Watched Trains
Breathless

>>2261702

Can't give you directors. Only one that would really rank high enough for me would be Tarkovsky. I can give movies.

Andrei Rublev
Midnight Cowboy
Das Boot
Two Lane Blacktop
The Indian Runner
Woman in the Dunes
There Will Be Blood
The Human Condition
Blue
Dog Day Afternoon

cannot FUCKING believe ANYONE can actually think of Godard as anything other than a cinematic genius. Have you watched his fucking films? Watched anything after Weekend? This man has complete MASTERY over cinema. It's just his plaything now.

jesus christ. Godard's work in cinema will most likely never be matched. Seriously go back and take a look at his output from the 60's, then continue. He just keeps innovating, doesn't get stale, keeps moving through what cinema IS and dissecting and rebuilding. a master, a genius.

anyone who cant see this really doesn't know what they're talking about when it comes to film.

Film as a Subversive Art by Amos Vogel
>https://rs347dt.rapidshare.com/#!download|347dt|154108550|Film_As_A_Subversive_Art.pdf|82333|R~E
98F0036BC1893BAB62C06E5F1F545AE|0|0

>>2265331
Peeps gotta be contrarian, he is good and important but you exaggerate slightly.

>>2265331
But he's "boring" and "pretentious".

>>2265331
I’ve never gotten anything out of Godard's movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a fucking bore. He’s made his films for the critics.

>>2265749

2deep4u

>>2265749
You stole that quote from Ingmar Bergman on Godard.

>>2265331
> doesn't get stale
> keeps moving
> rebuilding

You mean in the sense that all he's ever done has been done in his first film Breathless and the rest is repetition and varies only in the degree of contempt he has for the audience?

Yeah. Granted I think he's great but a lot of your points can be argued against.

>>2265331
What was so great about Le Mepris, so revolutionary or whatever? I can tell you that felt like a waste of an hour and a half.

>>2265793
Agreed. My major problem with Godard is too much bullshit about Karina and him that I don't give a fuck about.

Like, cool, I get that you're making a statement about women in cinema, but enough with this whole "lol guise me and Anna are having some tough times I think we're gonna break up soon."

Pierrot is my fav and that's because it looks and reads like a high-brow comic book. I'd like to think Raoul Coutard is more responsible for its greatness than is JLG.

>>2265799

>Pierrot is my fav and that's because it looks and reads like a high-brow comic book.

>>2265811
>>2265799
Yeah, Pierrot has always seemed to be the sort of artfully shot, non-experimental for experiment's sake sort of film, and I guess a sort of culmination for his experiments within genre, and i've been meaning to see it for ages.

>>2265822
I think it was also his last masterpiece for a long ass time. The 70's and 80's, in my opinion, were shit for Godard. Then he came back with In Praise of Love and Film Socialisme.

>>2265826
Hail Mary and Passion are pretty good to be fair. The rest go from meh to terrible.

>>2266568
No love for Prenom Carmen? Out of all his later (post-60s) films, I think it's the one that's most like his 60s films. The plot even has the same basic template as Breathless, and it actually has some humour, especially with Godard's appearances as the eccentric uncle. The scene with Tom Waits' 'Ruby's Arms' is great too.

George Romero and Robert Rodríguez

>haters are going to be buttdevastated

I have pathetically entry-level taste in film:
Woody Allen, Berri, Coen bros, Gilliam, Jonze, Kubrick
I've been meaning to check out moar Jean-Pierre Jeunet
/LIT/ HOW DO I INTO GOOD FILM?

why cant /tv/ be more like /lit/ :(

>>2266579
>jeunet
You don't really want that. Trust me. You're better off with some good ole Gilliam.

i just spent two hours rating about 400 films into rym.

am i a hipster yet

>>2266579
You are into good film. I recommend Robert Altman and Sidney Lumet.

>>2266582
>not rating 800 in two days
Also, attention whoring.
http://rateyourmusic.com/~mars_

>>2266583
altman is godtier, check out arthur penn if you like him.

>>2266586
what's with rym's collective obsession for thai/korean films?

I've been watching a lot of Shane Meadows stuff. Really good British kitchen sink realism but more improvised and funnier

>>2266593
Those mediocre korean revenge flicks are the shitty thrillers for the insecure.

>>2266581
haha, I've only seen Amélie, but yeah I could see how a style like that could get boring. As for Gilliam, I feel all I have left to see is The Fisher King and Jabberwocky. (pic related, mfw Gilliam never finished The Man Who Killed Don Quixote)
>>2266583
thank you good sir! both have daunting filmographies. Any suggested starting points?

>>2266609
His early films are barely similar to Amélie. I find those more pleasant, and they have some welcomed black comedy and slapstick thrown in. They also have a Gilliam feel on them, so it can't be that bad.

>>2266609
>mfw*

>>2266609
Dog Day Afternoon or
Network
from Lumet

A Prairie Home Companion or
MASH
from Altman

>>2266694

three women is a really really cool altman film i never see anybody talk about

has anybody seen quintet?

françois truffaut, terry gilliam, kusturica

/tv/ here, one of your people just left this turd on my doormat.
>>>/tv/20012446

>>2269102
Welcome to /lit/, /tv/. Please check your waifus and Batmen at the door.

>>2269102
We don't know any "King Q"
Sounds like a trekkie. Must be one of yours.