/lit/ - Literature

To be honest I'm mostly follow some Russian and Ukrainian military bloggers. Highly recommended all of them.

samf.substack.com
rwasamizdat.substack.com
frontelligence.substack.com

From here I read.

tookys.substack.com
micz.substack.com
minimag.substack.com

I know people use it but I do think the mailing list system is a bit of a mess, and I now mostly use the app. But what it's worth all people here post infrequently enough that it's only mildly spammy.

I do have some hopes for it though. It does have that early days of blogging so to feel, with some reasonably serious people making an okay living on it. And now with everyone trying to get off Twitter I do hope this is the direction most go rather than Threads or Bluesky or whatnot.

>>22652053
Jesus ... posting early in the morning and it really shows.
Yawn

>>22652053
>micz.substack.com
>rwasamizdat.substack.com
>minimag.substack.com

I already follow.
Moldbug is still schizo posting like a pro
graymirror.substack.com

>>22652053
Yeah lit stuff is on there but it seems less successful then lifestyle and analysis.
Which I guess has always been the case. Send like an ok place to host but I'm not sure how many of the readers come from the platform. That's why Twitter is still King.

https://voluntaryfool.substack.com/

I just really hope X got a separate place for long-form writings.
With a different interface, so when you go there you have an expectation of settling in, reading something longer, right now nobody reads long x-posts.

>>22652222
I just really hope it goes bankrupt.
There are so many clever people on there but using the service is getting worse and worse. Substack does seem like an alright alternative, though odds are people just move over to Instagram or something equally stupid.

>>22652006
Not much to say about it. Decent place for blogging, if a bit plain and feature poor. It's the people you follow that define what you'll get out of it, and whatever you think about the biggest blogs or the "average" there are good ones here and there.

>>22652053
> micz.substack.com

Actually made an account to subscribe to this guy from one of the poetry threads. It's an alright idea but using another social media just proved too much for me. Now I'd be curious how far you can get with just AI writing might be a worthwhile experiment.

> rwasamizdat.substack.com

Oh God the GF listens to these faggots so I'm probably already paying them or something. this and the Red Scare are peak 'not like other girls' bullshit. I despise both and I'm actually orthodox and a Russian immigrant.

Once someone posted a thread asking for everyone's favorite substacks and someone posted mine:

https://squarecircle.substack.com/

It's a weird blend of spirituality and philosophy.

Spirituality:

https://squarecircle.substack.com/p/the-real-and-final-enlightenment

Philosophy:

https://squarecircle.substack.com/p/consciousness-the-skeleton-key

Rather proud of that one, as I later discovered one of the arguments I used there has been used in the academic literature.

Schizo (featuring my favorite meme which I got from /lit/):

https://squarecircle.substack.com/p/the-truth-in-the-mirror

Is this the place to self-publish a handful experimental literary pieces, stuff a little like Samuel Beckett?

>>22652923
It's a newsletter service. You write whatever you want, and your readers receive your articles in their emails. Basically.

I have a Substack where I've reposted a few things over the years: old essays I wrote for political and cultural websites, poems I've gotten published, short stories I haven't been able to place elsewhere.

I'm thinking about starting to release a novel of mine on my Substack in serialized format. See what happens.

anybody here actually make any money on substack?

>>22652006
submit to my magazine Geed, it's a redpill / amateur science publication with very short entries.

https://geedblog.blog.fc2.com/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRHMLDa4-PTbEJlMDlVlC2cUzP5VsQUejTXFl7DMHRmJw-LdMrzq0_OuTnuBHRbAfX7m8BevpYFDwXa/pub

>>22653022
I made over $100 on substack with this >>22652401 blog. But I entertain no fantasies of living off of writing.

>>22653503
I can't and I won't

>>22652294
I always thought you should be open about it.
Describe it as 'curated essays from our exclusive language model ', make it feel like communications from an AI.

>>22653503
>redpill
faget
>>22653777
based + checked

>>22652006
I use it

>>22653022
I wanted to but I’m afraid my subscribers would accuse me of selling out

>>22654070
How many do you have?

>>22653503
good morning, I must say, you are glowing this morning

>>22652006
https://graymirror.substack.com/
Mencius Moldbug, his latest post on I/P conflict is illuminating.
https://www.astralcodexten.com/
Scott Alexander, co-founder of Rationalism.

>>22652053
>https://tookys.substack.com/
Thank you for the shout-out, not sure if it was you or another anon who mentioned me in a previous thread but it definitely helped some people discover my project - very genuinely appreciate it! Agree with you about Substack, the app in particular is great for reading (audio sucks though, always loses your spot).

>>22652006
>Been needing somewhere to put my work
What kind of work? My observation is that essays and poetry do best in terms of finding audience, but anything can work. But make sure you are tailoring the writing to the medium and not just dumping walls of text which I see many do.

>>22653503
sn33d

>>22653022
Lol no, will probably include links/ads for future books at ends of articles though so could make a few bucks but really not the point - get a part time job delivering pizzas and you'll make more money in most cases

Decided to check some of our boys out and lol.
Good luck anon.

How do you make people find you apart form these shill threads?

>>22654885
just be yourself

>>22654885
It's a tricky issue. I just dump my work in subreddits, but it's not very effective generally. Here:

https://perell.com/essay/the-ultimate-guide-to-writing-online/

They say to integrate with a community, become a valued in member there, and then shill your work. I've also heard it's useful to get a following on twitter through your tweets, though I don't know, now the algorithm is downranking external links, so I heard it is difficult for pieces to go viral there. Some people say this will be the end of twitter, as now, you can't get content from the web in general there: it knocks out a big part of the value.

>>22652053
> micz.substack.com
Pure fucking schlock

>>22655517
thansk a lot!

Why is this thread dead? Does seriously no one write here?

>>22657170
This whole board is dead. We had the same thread four months ago and it blew up.

Best chudstacks?

>tfw nobody posts your substack

>>22657812
don't let your dreams be dreams

>>22657812
The only other lit person i know is:

> milesofwriting.substack.com

>>22657170
>Does seriously no one write here?
does replying on /lit/ count?

>>22657812
I actively avoid identifying myself by name on 4chan, so there's no way I'd actually post my Substack here.

>>22658048
Ive sold probably dozens of books to 4chan users over the years. Its weird, but for an anonymous forum known for antisocial behaviour people here are a lot more supportive as a community than any other social media platform, and its not even close. I can post metrics and throw together some tables tomorrow. Truly a sociological madhouse, this place.

>>22658060
Bumping. I want to see these metrics.

>>22658882
So for the first book I published, I made a thread here and sold about 8 copies. Dropped my email and had several people reach out to me with inquiries. Of those original eight people, they must have told their friends, because without any kind of publicity aside from two threads on /lit/ I continued to sell... well, lets say 1 book every two or so months. This was in 2019.

Since then things have dried up considerably, but just in the last month I've sold about four books just by talking about them on /lit/. It honestly gets worse on here every day however, so I wouldn't expect to have the same metrics a year from now. In its hayday this place made several people's careers.

Take instagram on the other hand. There I made an account and just started spam-following people for leads. From that, about 1/6th of the people I follow follow me back, which now translates to about 1k followers. Of those 1k, about 1/20 will like my posts. From those people, perhaps 1/20 of them will click on the link to my website and/or substack. Which is to say I've sold about 3 books through Instagram so far. The algorithm is a big part of this imo. My engagement metrics are actually really good (around 20-30% of people who view the posts like/share/comment on it), but the reach metrics are hovering around 15% (so only 15% of my followers actually ever see the content), which I can only assume is some sort of Meta fuckery by Zuckerberg. To make matters worse, I recently tried to purchase adds through instagram/fb as a trial, and about three hours after the program started running they immediately "froze payment for suspicious activity." When I tried to submit a complaint, the button for doing so wouldn't even work, so essentially they just stole my money and refused to deliver on goods and services.

Substack is a great tool/platform, but not really a place to game followers. Twitter is interesting in that you can go on there and argue about China policy with literal spooks in the deep state, but also the character limit drops the average IQ of the place by several standard deviations and the fast paced atmosphere means you have to constantly be arguing about dumb shit with people in order to build any kind of following. Plus, trying to following interesting /lit/ adjacent posters will get you funneled into the right-wing twitter sphere, which is a steaming pile of retards. Tumblr is actually my favorite to use, in that has the features of substack but with the discoverability on twitter, but the demographics are skewed towards femcels and uberlibs who only really care about aesthetics and lgbt issues. Medium is garbage in a world with substack, basically youre a contributor to the worlds biggest newspaper but you dont get paid or get any prestige from it.

>>22659028
Forgot to mention, but despite having terrible engagement, instagram is used informally as a business card for a lot of people, so its a great way to connect with artists, book collectors, rich milfs, and some genuinely impressive people. For this reason alone I use it quite a bit more than any other social media.

Reddit is alright in terms of being able to have an actual conversation with people and they have decent SEO for the making content appear on the surface web, but the overall user engagement (even on very niche subreddits) is generally much poorer than 4chan.

Facebook is actually amazing if you get onto the right groups. I'm part of a closed group called 'Vintage, Rare, & Antique Books' and it not only has a much higher quality of content than anything you see on /lit/, but it also has better banter in the comments. Tends towards an older and more established demographic generally.

My favourite lead generator at the moment is actually wikipedia. Since a lot of my writings focus on niche historical subjects, translations, and archival collections, I can just edit in references to various projects Im working on and this passively generates several leads a week for an indefinite period of time. This is frowned on however, so it requires a certain degree of subtlety and stealth.

>>22659074
Honorable mention has to be interpals, which doesn't have the same kind of mass reach of these other sites, but allows you to instantly connect with cute girls around the world. If i had more money for promotions I would use it to send cute international girls copies of my books and get them to send me pictures back to use for social media. You can meet some genuinely fascinating, intelligent, horny women through that website, which is more than can be said for any dating app I've ever used.

Final protip is that you can request your local library to order copies of your books for you, and they will purchase about 5 at a time. Only problem is that librarians are mouth breathing sewer people who will only order through Amazon, so prepare to earn under $2 per book sold.

>>22659028
>>22659074
>>22659091
Looking through my lulu metrics right now, and I've processed 17 payment periods (every two months I believe) so far, making a total of $289.58 in profits, or around $16 per period, or $8 a month passive income. My goal is to get to $200 a month passive so I can fuck off to Afghanistan. I can say with certainty that at least $96 in sales was a direct result of shilling myself on 4chan, and I'd be willing to guess that I've sold twice that through word-of-mouth generated on this site. Id be curious to hear what other ppl's experience has been though, because I don't buy adds or shill nearly as much as Gardner and BAP.

>>22659091
Thanks for that interpals rec. I really need to get laid. Actually, thanks for all the other info really.

It's so funny to me that, as a 35 year old incel, I got women subscribing to my blog, which does not talk of such matters at all.

>>22659335
Np anon. Interpals is a great site, an outpost of the old internet that hasnt been entirely corrupted by algorithms and psyops. Enjoy.

Whats your blog about?

>>22659524
It's this one: >>22652401. Spirituality and philosophy I guess. It is pretty weird. I am absolutely astonished that I got past 100 subscribers.

One last bump

Cool thread, anons poast stacks I demand

>>22659028
>>22659074
>>22659091
>>22659148

Honestly, actually really interesting, Anon, thanks.

I am >>22658048 and you are making me reconsider my longstanding position. I suppose reflexively I've just always tried to avoid being a namefag and a shill on here. 4chan is very important to me as a website so I've never liked the idea of violating the rules of the place, either spoken or unspoken, and one of the unspoken rules is that being a namefag or especially a tripfag marked you as as loser. Who would bother giving themselves a regular identity on an anonymous image board, after all? The amporphousness of this place, the ability to melt seamlessly between positions and topics, is part of its appeal.

But I have noticed this site will look after you. If you're kind to 4chan 4chan will be kind to you.

And I do very much have this one, big story that I'm desperate for people to read. A story I have high hopes for, something I think can be a big deal. Something I am confident in.

I don't know, maybe you're right. Maybe I'm too much of a paranoid old-school Anon.

But this is really interesting and you've given me a lot to think about.

Sounds like launching from substack is just as difficult as self-publishing.
I've considered starting one, since I actually read a lot of substack. A lot of excellent writers there.
It's a sad state of affairs in academia. I was consistently told my work was fit for postgrad. Too bad I don't have the cash. And yet, who even reads most published papers? Nobody. It's true for every field. I knew a lot of STEMcel peers who would slave away for some obscure research question that nobody cares about. Apparently it's true for 99% of academics. That's the kind of career path allotted for an academic. And advisors don't want novel and creative theses.

>>22662001
>avoids identification
>exactly the same dialog, lexicon, posting style and image every time you make a post
>i know who you are, anon

>>22662977
>chud is incapable of imagining two different people writing long and thoughtful posts
Tiktok realy has ruined a generation

>>22659028
>>22659074
>>22659091
>>22659148

Is this parody?
Literature is truly dead, and so is the credibility of this board.

>>22662001
Glad you found it interesting anon. I for one would be interested in reading your story. I get where youre coming from regardng anonymity, but honestly ive met some fascinating people through this site. As long as youre not obnoxious about it most posters here are pretty decent and supportive.

Most of the people I’m familiar with on Substack are mainly journalists that built their name either trad publishing or as a big name blogger like Yarvin and they all do the social media and podcast circuit to sustain their Substack income. The truth is that literature in all forms is not really viable and it’s only the top 10% who are really getting any monetary pay off. That said, go ahead and use it if you just want to get your writing up somewhere. It’s certainly better than letting things you want to publish remain unpublished.

>>22652006

I've been writing a lot of goofy fiction and uploading at least one of my stories once a week.

midnightpantomime.substack.com

>>22654581

These are the absolute worst people on substack. Yarvin is cringe incarnate, and Scott Alexander is just a horrible person...plus his writing sucks. His blog had a handful of interesting ideas over the years, but he hasn't had a good one on substack yet.