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100 pages in and I'm lost. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Does it get better?

>> No.22631169

Assuming you're on the part where all the divisions of each army is introduces, yes, it's confusing at first but it gets better when it's pure war narration.

>> No.22631176

>>22631169
fpbp. get past the ship catalogue and you’ll start to enjoy it

>> No.22631198

>>22631050
Kind of. Keep reading.

>> No.22631253

Yes. The repetitive endless fighting can get tiring but it's punctuated by amazing moments of beauty and humanity and is all worth it in the end

>> No.22631671

>>22631050
yes, when diomedes shows up

>> No.22631677 [DELETED] 

>>22631671
this guy gets it

>> No.22631681

>>22631253
this guy gets it

>> No.22631709

>>22631050
>Does it get better?
No, literature does not get better after Homer, in fact it gets significantly worse.

>> No.22631761

the only way to truly know is by reading it yourself

>> No.22631909

>>22631050
Unironically go on wikipedia and read the summary of the first few books. Maybe you just don't see the big picture. Are you reading the translation in pic rel? It's probably the easiest to read of the english translations.

>> No.22632214

>>22631050
the greeks were basically mental retards compared to us and you can't even keep up with their fucking fairytales???

>> No.22632216

>>22631050
If you’re reading it in English. No. It is shit from start to end.

>> No.22632247

>>22632214
It’s the other way round read Heidegger.

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>>22631709
>No, literature does not get better after Homer, in fact it gets significantly worse.
Ahem. You were saying?

>> No.22632899

>>22631050
Listen to the Great Courses lectures on the Iliad before you read it. That'll make it a lot easier to follow what's going on.

>> No.22633068

How many versions as one read of the Liad und Homer Odyssey? Are they all worth it? Who can tell (me?)

>> No.22633143

>>22632216
Chances are that you aren't fluent enough in ancient greek that you are able to think in that language without translating the words in your head. So basically you just read your own, vastly inferior translation inside your own head because let's be real here, your knowledge of ancient greek or of Homer doesn't even come close to that of Fagles or of any other mainstream translator.

>> No.22633166

>>22631050
It does, it's nothing but war, sex, and violence from the moment Achilles throws a tantrum and leaves the Greeks until Hector's death.

>> No.22633171

>>22631671
Yes, Diomedes is the biggest chad of the war, more badass than Achilles, and without the plot armor.

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22633253

>>22633068
τὴν Ὁμήροιο, ὡς πρέπει

>> No.22633345

>>22633143
I'll post essentially the same response I posted last time you posted this: you can very easily read the original alongside the translation of your choice for guidance as to the subtleties of meaning. The point of reading the original has nothing to do with thinking in Greek, it's about the sound and the rhythm of the original.

>> No.22633527

>>22631050
I wish I could read Greek.