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22616126 No.22616126 [Reply] [Original]

>be PKD
>write psychedelic surreal fiction
>people call you a scifi author
huh?

>> No.22616138

>>22616126
PKD is awesome and so is this art but this is easily his faggiest quote.

>> No.22616143

>>22616138
It’s kino. He’s talking about magick.

>> No.22616148

>>22616143
he’s talking about language, which is the real life version of what some retards think magic or “magick” is.

>> No.22616164

>>22616126
I listened to this interview with Dick and wasn't very impressed with him. Rambling answers with not much substance, some weak attempts at humor, at 42 min he gives a summary of A Scanner Darkly and it's a bit meh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFhsDUAZ6Co

>> No.22616165

>>22616148
Magick is real

>> No.22616170

>>22616164
No one asked

>> No.22616212

>>22616170
>only articulates his thoughts when he's asked
Why are you such a slave to interrogative coercion

>> No.22616240

>>22616212
Those are not articulated thoughts. Just your womanly opinion about some interview.

>> No.22616243

>>22616240
See? Why are you such a slave to interrogative coercion

>> No.22616264

>>22616126
DUDE, WEED the writer

>> No.22616272

>>22616264
You're a retard

>> No.22616403
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>>22616126
I love Dick. Do you guys love Dick? I love inviting Dick into my head, so he can expand my mind with his metaphysical, mystical musings that have a so wonderful yet contemporary style to them. Dick is as if Plato or Parmenides were 50's era's boomers, and that why I love having Dick inside of me (no homo).

>> No.22617508

>>22616126
he's based

>> No.22618475

>>22616165
Show me.

>> No.22618861

>>22616165
no, language is real. and it is capable of all the things nerds think “magick” is capable of.

>> No.22618991

>>22616164
Well, yeah, drugs and the stress of his lifestyle (largely living close to poverty or with significant financial stress through much of his adult life from Shylocky advances and royalties sci-fi publishers gave him, as well as of course spending the money on drugs , until closer to the end of his life when he gained even more critical and commercial success and even some movie adaptations and hence had some more financial security) will do that to a fellow. The unevenness is matched by the unevenness of his literary output at times, but that he made as many great books as he did, and often condensed within a very few short years of each other, is still nothing short of astounding. This interview may well be a dud, but there’s others where he’s far more compelling and where he’s a wonderful raconteur, including some on his 1973 religious experiences, which, other people’s skepticism about it aside, I still view as the highlight of my interest in his life and works, and leading to his best novel (VALIS). I’d dig some up if I didn’t have to go to work, maybe later I’ll find a vid.

You can’t judge a man’s literary output based on one interview where he wasn’t on the top of his game.

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22619000

>>22616403
I literally cannot get enough dick
I love dick so much
I gobble it down
Look at all my dick
I'll probably enjoy more dick in the future, unrepentantly

>> No.22619007

I only read Three Stigmata thinking it would be like Blade Runner but it was actually more like Inception. I hated it. Won't be reading Dick again.

>> No.22619040

>>22619007
read ubik its literally inception, wouldn't be surprised if nolan took inspiration from it
>>22619000
comfy collection, I have the library of america set of his, kino af

>> No.22619059

>>22619000
That's a really nice assortment of dick, especially the darker ones. My wife would love them

>> No.22619089

>>22619000
nice dick bro

>> No.22619103

>>22619007
I love dick but hate three stigmata

>> No.22619115

>>22619059
i've enjoyed all of those dicks to varying degrees. sometimes i like a big fat dick but then at other times a thin but incisive dick will really hit the spot

>> No.22619129

>>22619000
nice dick bro

>> No.22619166

>>22619115
true, but I have to admit I've been hesitant to take in the whole Exegesis of dick, one might be well-advised to do it under a doctor's supervision so it doesn't blow you apart.

>> No.22619665

>>22616126
>be PKD
>write a book about how androids are akin to demiurgic archons
>midwit fans build such android in your homage after you die, essentially insulting your name

>> No.22619773

>>22616264
Think you meant to say "DUDE, SPEED" hehe

>> No.22619960

>>22619000
Nick collection of dicks. Even the ones people regard as “minor,” without as much fame, I found fucking great, like The Simulacra and Time Out of Joint. I can’t tell which one I loved more, maybe the first one, but my memory is so hazy I want to reread them now that this thread and that pic reminded me. I went on a massive binge of Dicks a few years back, I was going through so many of them, dozens of Dicks in a few short months, because that’s how compelling I found him. I was getting them from the public library and even asking for ILLs (interlibrary loans) to get as much Dick as I could, and weirdly enough I wasn’t even much of a genre fic/sci-fi reader then, nor am I today. But I made an exception for the great Dick.

>> No.22619996

>>22619960
(Cont.)
I also love how masterful PKD was at the new type of plot he himself arguably created, that of character’s worlds totally falling apart and being revealed to have been illusory, delusions, hoaxes, fakes or simulacra pasted over a realer, often horrifying world as part of a vast conspiracy. The way in which the worlds “break down” is almost always masterful, and it’s done in both The Simulacra and in Time Out of Joint (but so uniquely in each case you don’t feel it’s repetitive). Some might call it formulaic ,but the way he does it every separate time is always so uniquely well-constructed. There are a few classic plots repeated throughout literature — man vs. monster (or monsters), a grand quest or voyage, also the closely related voyage and return (like the Odyssey), the basic comedy or tragedy, the war story or war epic, the romance, and then of course modern additions like the mystery/detective story etc.

The modernists and postmodernists of course did experiment with plot heavily (either approaching plotlessness or extremely convoluted plots), but I don’t think any of them can be granted the laurel of creating an entirely new plot-form like PKD did, and in such a masterly fashion repeatedly. You can call me a pseud or pleb for liking Dick so much, he is a popular writer, not too difficult to read, and isn’t a masterly stylist, but what can I say? I’m forced to give him that respect.

>> No.22621092

>>22619996
>You can call me a pseud or pleb for liking Dick so much
I'm a confirmed patrician and I love Dick.
His best work is the VALIS trilogy. Then Scanner and Ubik.

>> No.22621364

>>22616126
I'm a bit mixed about PKD. I love some of his short stories. I remember particularly liking the one about two sides fighting on an apocalyptic earth usimg underground factories of auto-generating robots. These robots it turns out begin to evolve on their own becoming more and more sophisticated and human like.
It's the perfect story to get an overview of his style: the detached paranoid critique of the cold war combined with some metaphysical ruimination about the notion of evolution and copying/mimicry--a theme PKD seemed obsessed with and returns to again and again.
PKD's dialogue can be kind of weak, has a pulp feel to it. At other times PKD seems beat-nik or counter-culturap to a degree that's a bit cringy.

>> No.22621393

>>22619996
>I also love how masterful PKD was at the new type of plot he himself arguably created, that of character’s worlds totally falling apart and being revealed to have been illusory, delusions, hoaxes, fakes or simulacra pasted over a realer, often horrifying world as part of a vast conspiracy. The way in which the worlds “break down”
Nice write up fren, that's a good summary of PKD.
He's very schizophrenic in a real way that is both bleak and mundanely comedic.
I would almost classify his writing as works of tragedy, in so far as the plots tend to culminate in a moment of anaxagoris--the sudden realization in which the protagonist realizes his life/existence is a lie or a cruel joke.
(Doubly tragic with a little knowledge of PKD's own biography).
As well as the classic tragic theme of the individual trapped within the cruel workings of a fate beyond his control.
He's considered a sci to writer, but imo his works could be best classified as black comedies or tragedies.
Ome of the recurring themes I've noticed with him, he's very fixated not just on the idea of reality being fake, but of our own conscious perception being a kind of "tape", like in a tape recorder, and an interest in the question as to what happens wheb you tamper with that tape. As in what exists on the edge of conscious perception.
Im thinking of specifically that 1 short story about a man who learns he is a robot and begins to tamper with the tape that functions as his brain.

>> No.22621402

>>22619996
I worked backwards from VALIS and every PKD book I read, in the back of my mind was "there's no why he could have written ANOTHER banger about reality coming apart at the seams" but I was wrong each time.

>> No.22621412

>>22621364
Despite liking him, he is also i must admit a juvenile author, though this is also a strength in a certain way at least in the writing of speculative fiction or sci-fi.
Juvenile in the sense that there is little time for or interest in the sobering realities of life. It seems to PKD these realities were so mundanely bleak to him that all he could do was treat them as a cruel joke, a simulation obscuring a deeper reality.
This mystical impulse i tend to associate with youth, and for certain writers it seems like this youthful fascination with denying reality enhances their writing

>> No.22621476

>>22616165
yes, and it is language