/lit/ - Literature

>>22544315
Translator's Preface on him: "Mccarthy was _______". Who is Mccarthy here?

>>22544315
A legion of horribles, hundreds in number, half naked or clad in costumes attic or biblical or wardrobed out of a fevered dream with the skins of animals and silk finery and pieces of uniform still tracked with the blood of prior owners, coats of slain dragoons, frogged and braided cavalry jackets, one in a stovepipe hat and one with an umbrella and one in white stockings and a bloodstained weddingveil and some in headgear of cranefeathers or rawhide helmets that bore the horns of bull or buffalo and one in a pigeontailed coat worn backwards and otherwise naked and one in the armor of a spanish conquistador, the breastplate and pauldrons deeply dented with old blows of mace or saber done in another country by men whose very bones were dust and many with their braids spliced up with the hair of other beasts until they trailed upon the ground and their horses’ ears and tails worked with bits of brightly colored cloth and one whose horse’s whole head was painted crimson red and all the horsemen’s faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious, all howling in a barbarous tongue and riding down upon them like a horde from a hell more horrible yet than the brimstone land of christian reckoning, screeching and yammering and clothed in smoke like those vaporous beings in regions beyond right knowing where the eye wanders and the lip jerks and drools.

>>22544374
Nah not this one, maybe for people new to McCarthy.

This one from Suttree is a contender:
>One spring morning timing the lean near-liquid progress of a horse on a track, the dust exploding, the rapid hasping of his hocks, coming up the straight foreshortened and awobble and passing elongate and birdlike with harsh breath and slatted brisket heaving and the muscles sliding and bunching in clocklike flexion under the wet black hide and a gout of foam hung from the long jaw and then gone in a muted hoofclatter, the aging magistrate snapped his thumb from the keep of the stopwatch he held and palmed it into his waistcoat pocket and looking at nothing, nor child nor horse, said anent that simple comparison of rotary motions and in the oratory to which he was prone that they had witnessed a thing against which time would not prevail.
>He meant a thing to be remembered, but the young apostate by the rail at his elbow had already begun to sicken at the slow seeping of life. He could see the shape of the skull through the old man’s flesh. Hear sand in the glass. Lives running out like something foul, night-soil from a cesspipe, a measured dripping in the dark. The clock has run, the horse has run, and which has measured which?

Many of Judge's speeches may require rereads.

Why didn't this nigger use punctuation

>>22544963
reads like someone describing their rectal hemorrhage suddenly started talking

>>22544988
Filtered pleb

>>22544963
>The horse raced past the barn fell.

>>22544963
the worst is the judge talking about judging people.
It's so bad it came out ambiguous. Whole thread on it a while ago.

>>22545559
Clarity is not the Judge's point. Or rather it's his point only ironically.

>>22544315
>Shit/lit/ challenges /lit/self to language parsing.

I hate England.

>>22544963
These would unironically be better with semicolons and other stuff, which in turn would not detract aesthetically from these sentences in the least. This is just a gimmick, maybe even a contrived one.

>and they rode on past the rust-colored tabernacle and he spat and drank coffee and dipped his tortilla in the coffee and then spat and they scalped some Indians and then they rode on to the cordellara and now in these sootblacked brick or cobbled corridors where lightwire shadows make a gothic harp of cellar doors no soul shall walk save you

>>22546519
Legitimately reads like one of those, usually juvenile, characters who is supposed to be annoying and never STFU. Can you even read McCarthy out loud without passing out?

>>22545559
>the worst is the judge talking about judging people. It's so bad it came out ambiguous
Could you give some examples?

>>22546508
It’s definitely a gimmick. He’s a good writer, but sometimes that isn’t enough to get noticed.

>>22546508
You don't know grammar whatsoever. This passage is perfectly punctuated with commas in the right place.

The only gimmick here is you trying to appear smart.

>>22546770
Are you retarded, nigger? That isn't McCarthy. Be mad after ypu have actually read the writer. Unfounded butthurt is so pathetic.

>>22546770
Read a book, retard. McCarthy is best read out loud, that's literally part of his appeal.

>>22547813
Lightwire shadows are definitely in the first few pages of Suttree, 10 to 1. Maybe you know that, though.

>>22547828
That's 4 different passages from 4 different books clubbed together. You think that's demonstrative of a writer's prose? You think that would sound good for any writer ever?

>>22547828
The point was that the idiot legitimately thinks that the passage is something that McCarthy had written. Random pickings from various passages is obviously going to be nonsense. The post itself was clearly a parody, 'cept for one moron who thought it was real.

>>22547842
lol one of my best shitposts

the one were he coins the term autistic

>>22547809
>replace some of the commas with semicolons or em-dashes
What's the problem exactly?

>>22547813
I was talking about all these quotations.

>>22547892
Why? Just for the hell of it?

>>22544374
>>22544963
this isn't difficult to parse just annoying

>>22547938
So its not hard to read? Jfc!

>>22544374
filtered. that's just masterful writing.

>>22547990
Em dashes won't make it easier, there aren't any absent or hidden subjects. The commas are fine where they are.

What discordant vespers do the tinker’s goods chime through the long twilight and over the brindled forest road, him stooped and hounded through the windy recrements of day like those old exiles who divorced of corporeality and enjoined ingress of heaven or hell wander forever the middle warrens spoorless increate and anathema. Hounded by grief, by guilt, or like this cheerless vendor clamored at heel through wood and fen by his own querulous and inconsolable wares in perennial tin malediction.

In the clearing he set down his cart and circled the remains of a fire out of which rose a slender stem of smoke like the pistil of a burnt flower, his thin nose constricted and eyes wary. Shapes of risen sleepers lay in the pressed and poisoned grass. He set out the child and gathered wood and built back the fire. Dark fell and bats came to hunt the glade, crossing above the figure sulking there on his gaunt shanks like little voiceless souls. Then they went away. A fox stopped barking. The tinker in his mothgnawn blanket nodded. The child slept.

>>22544963
Im ESL and I can follow along so its really not that hard.

>>22548296
the aging magistrate snapped his thumb from the keep of the stopwatch he held and palmed it into his waistcoat pocket and looking at nothing, nor child nor horse, said anent that simple comparison of rotary motions and in the oratory to which he was prone that they had witnessed a thing
Wat it mean?

The sun bled its last light over the vastness of the desert, casting long shadows that seemed to stretch into eternity. As the lone rider pressed on, a silent wind whispered tales of ancient times and forgotten souls. Amidst this desolation, a familiar yet unwelcome scent rose, borne from the depths of the man himself. He grimaced, a solitary witness to his own indiscretion, and the desert, indifferent and vast, swallowed the moment whole.

>>22548209
Outer Dark is a piece of piss to parse and you should feel bad for feeling that this is difficult.

Try this one.

>He sat his horse.

>>22548381
The old judge put his watch in his shirt. He didn't look at anything. There was a child and a horse. The child and the horse and he was like a watch. The watch was like the universe. He had witnessed something he had not witnessed. This is the way the world works: nobody witnesses that which they do.

>>22548381
He wanted to use apropos but got scared that would be too latinate for such a horny handed son of toil so found anent which is worse because it's fake af and sticks out.

>>22544374
I aknowledge the taste and style in this passage but I fucking hate reading it

>>22548496
Apropos sounds like shit in that passage. Good thing you're not a writer.

>>22548469
And as he lay there a far crack of lightning went bluely down the sky and bequeathed him in an embryonic bird’s first fissured vision of the world and transpiring instant and outrageous from dark to dark a final view of the grotto and the shapeless white plasm struggling upon the rich and incunabular moss like a lank swamp hare. He would have taken it for some boneless cognate of his heart’s dread had the child not cried.

It howled execration upon the dim camarine world of its nativity wail on wail while he lay there gibbering with palsied jawhasps, his hands putting back the night like some witless paraclete beleaguered with all limbo’s clamor.

>>22548553
I didn't say he should have used apropos and if you examine the post closely you'll see I explained why he didn't.
Anent is fucking horrible though, complete fugazi.

>>22548584
There's nothing wrong with anent. It sounds good with the passage. You just dislike it because it's archaic.

>>22544374
>>22544963
sounds like gpt with high temperature

>>22544374

>>22548965
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>>22548965
lol I thought the same

>>22544374
Post this everytime someone on here tries to grill you for run-on sentences.

>>22548429
Not convincing.

Not a sentence but I'm still not sure what happened in the penultimate chapter of Blood Meridian
>The Kid, now grown up, gets himself hired as security for some group of pilgrims and ditches them, going into the mountains instead
>stumbles upon some spooky penitent procession
>days later he's going down the mountains and finds the pilgrims all massacred, except for an old woman who is kneeling in prayer
>he kneels down next to her and she's actually some kind of mummy that's been dead for a very long time
>mfw

None of these are that hard. Am I more High IQ than I thought I was?
Like, sure it isn't standard vernacular but it's not like like trying to read Le Morte D'Arthur in the original language.
I've never read this author but from what I see just having a strong grasp of English should be enough to get through his writing.

I have an IQ of 94, WAIS-IV measured in 2019.

>>22544374
>>22544963
I can read both of these and understand what exactly is happening in a literal sense and it's really quite pretty. However, I don't know what the 2nd one is trying to go for thematically aside from some vague sense of futility or whatever. I have this problem often. Is reading McCarthy worth it if I'm not very smart?

>>22544315
this guy on love and romance is basically echt, and why you love him so

>>22551285
It's just English written in weird diction. It's not sirens or some gimmick like that. Anybody who reads should be able to understand them, however I can see people stumbling initially and requiring rereads to parse the sentences which is why I think they were posted.

McCarthy only did the unparseable gimmick with The Thalidomide kid.

>>22551251
Same symbols as on the old coot's stave in Orchard Keeper, and some of the mistral family's accouterments earlier in the novel.

>>22551285
There are only 4 passages from McCarthy ITT. Rest are fan fiction.

>>22551373
Thanks for this

>>22548555
>The baby cried.

Pre Desert McCarthy is a joke where there's too much water (God) and he's drowning. Suttree is juvenalia.

Even McCarthy's deserts are full of water, like the fucking sep cunt he is.

New to the Yabba?

Later. Simpler. McCarthy becomes harder to parse.

>>22551682
>McCarthy becomes harder to parse.
You gotta listen to the sentences he isn't writing man.

>The dipper stove.