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nietzsche /newfag/ .i see this suggested to get into nietzsche

>> No.22504783

Read the greeks to understand his Socrates' criticism and have a general understanding of Christianity

>> No.22504854

>>22504781
>dude don’t worry about the afterlife bro just be a dick to everyone because it makes you powerful

>> No.22504986

>DUDE POWER LMAO

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>>22504783
any links on starting greeks desu?sorry anon

>> No.22505033

>>22504781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg14jNbBb-8

>> No.22505069

>>22504854
>>22504986
>dude im retard lmao...
shut the fuck up

>> No.22505376

Read Genealogy of Morals before that, unless you want to get filtered.

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>>22504781
>GET UP AND CONQUER THE WORLD!
>FUCK YOUR RELIGION
>NIHILISM IS LE DISEASE
>WOMEN ARE LIFE.......PLEASE Salomé HAVE SEX WITH ME!
>IS THAT A HORSE GETTING W-WHIPPED? OH MEIN GOTT ICH ist GAY!


Nietzsche summarized.

>> No.22505546

>>22505541
Nietzsche basedjack poster I haven't seen you in awhile. What's new?

>> No.22505585

>>22505541
>>GET UP AND CONQUER THE WORLD!
He literally never says that

>> No.22505600

>>22505006
Buy and read Plato Five Dialogues, then the Symposium and the Republic. This is the basic intro to Plato. But you should be familiar with ancient Greek literature in general.

>> No.22505608

>>22504781
you're in for endless seething of christian, religious retards in this thread.


Start with Genealogy. It was written explicitly to be more accessible to people. Twilight of the idols is reference heavy and makes sense only when you've encountered the actual idols, and anti-christ is a further development of some of the ideas found in genealogy.

>> No.22505610

>>22505541
Mom I posted it again

>> No.22505625

>>22504781
Yo will misunderstand him and compare your values and beliefs to his, missing the spirit of Nietzsche; then you will make a thread isolating a paragraph or quote out of context as a pseudo-bait thread in which other anons who don’t understand Nietzsche will reply; a shitstorm will ensue

90% chance this happens

>> No.22505936

>>22504781

No.

The Genealogy of Morals is the easiest to read and is typically given as the introduction.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra captures Nietzsche's spirit the best - which is important in this case. Many find it difficult to read. Reading along with an audiobook can help with this( available on youtube and piracy). Anything not understood can be easily looked up, Nietzsche is a very interneted philosopher.

Beyond Good and Evil is the easier to read prose version of TSZ.

>> No.22505951

>>22505376
>>22505600
>>22505936
>>22505608
I thought TBT should be the first because it introduces you to Nietzsche's thought process? Anyway, what's next to Genealogy? I'm a noob as well, I have the penguin classics version of The Birth of Tragedy.

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Listen up you fucking Nietzschean dogs. You are nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. You are all filth. Squalor. Dirt. Even less then fucking dirt. Less then a fucking bacteria. You amount to basically nothing. Your lives are basically nothing other then obviously to serve your betters, your superiors, the "Aryans".

Me? On the other hand. I am GREATNESS in every inch of my body. I can feel the Persian Aryan blood pumping through my veins, the Sultan and his army calling for my name to lead them to battle and victory. I can see the huge armies under me devastating everything that resembles jewry or degeneracy. That's just how great I am. I kiss myself in the mirror. I want to fuck myself, women are just obsolete at this point. I am sorry that you are all so poor and inferior, it is truly a pity how your sad miserable lives will end in slavery. Such a sad broken destiny.

>> No.22506185

>>22506090
As a Nietzschean I am impressed you're one step towards the Ubermensch, have a great day my friend. Everything falls in the right place in due time.

>> No.22506935

>>22504781
A phenomenal, lifechanging experience.

>> No.22507083

>>22506090
>kissing oneself in mirror
How about you kys fag or actually read the books.

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>>22506090
Based

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>>22504781
Crypto-christcuckdom filtered through pathological mania. Waste of time.

>> No.22507288

>>22505585
He literally didn't have to. Had anon posted 'get up and conquer *your* world' instead, he wouldn't have been too far off

>> No.22507301

>>22507268
Kek. Had it not been so monumentally influential then yeah, maybe. Your silly little post of ironic self ('self') affirmation has more to do with Nietzsche's having existed than you'll ever realize, however.

>> No.22507347

>>22507301
>yeah, maybe, but... Tom Cruise is famous
Alright. Not sure what you tried to say.

>> No.22507668

>>22507158
Appeal to popularity. How much of a normie are you?

>> No.22507834

>>22507158
N loved Wagner. This is the weirdest false dichotomy.

>> No.22507950

>>22507158
I like Kantbot's theory that Klingzor the castrated wizard in Parsifal is an allusion to Nietzsche.
>>22507834
Nietzsche loved Wagner's work but he grew to dislike Wagner himself over time, and Wagner himself never had much respect for Nietzsche in the first place, he literally cried laughing at Nietzsche's music because it was so bad.

>> No.22508045

>>22507834
Nietzsche was at first a big fan of Wagner, The Birth Of Tragedy was inspired by him, but Nietzsche split from Wagner sometime in the 1870s, probably over Wagner's interest in Christianity and nationalism. Then he got pissed off by Parsifal of all things and wrote several books solely about how he thought Wagner wasn't all that great, even after Wagner had already died. Even then, Wagner probably remained the biggest influence on Nietzsche's work, and you can detect hints of it throughout, or even blatant allusions such as in Twilight of the Idols. He probably swung between admiring and hating Wagner, as he did with most people he knew in his life.

>> No.22508093

>>22504781
start with BGE, but that is also good, either way as long as the first book isn't TSZ then you're good

>> No.22509317

>>22505610
kek what do he and his mom read though?

>> No.22509346

>>22507347
Kek. What has Tom Cruise written that you've read? From Madison Avenue through contemporary politics to the neo-constructivist philosophies popular right now Nietzsche is a monstrous presence. Like Emerson if you're an American, one doesn't even have to read him to be saturated with his having been...aiw.
His 'perspectivism' is absolutely the order of the present day.

>> No.22509762

>>22509346
>His 'perspectivism' is absolutely the order of the present day.
that really explains why everything is so shit then.

>> No.22509808

Starting to think Nietzsche just wasn't all that intelligent and he should have focused on writing poetry.

>> No.22509828

>>22509762
Can't disagree
But the fact remains