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>>22502612
Bible

There is no proof for christianity or any religion. If you want to believe just believe bro you dont need to justify it rationally

>>22502612
theology is secondary to actual theosis. Absent the mysteries of the cross and the life of the church, no theology can achieve its end.

When will you retards realize religion is an expression of culture.
Asking what religion is correct is like asking whether tango dancing is correct.

>>22502612
Replace the nouns of your sentence with literally anything else and hear how retarded it sounds.

>>22502792
>>22502760
You are dumb. Its closer to a systematic science. Math is also an "expression of culture" but it is provable and the results of it being true or false are important have have real consenquanes just like not believing the one true religion (Christianity)

>Christfags thrashing about for reassurance again
Admit it, your religion is over.

It’s not. Christianity is Judaism for gentiles. This can be a blackpill but it’s the truth. Paul and the rest of the Sanhedrin were furiously trying to make a new religion to replace the Roman religion because they were seething at the polytheism. They wanted one that was monotheistic under the Jewish god since gentiles can’t convert to Judaism and they needed this new religion to put them in an antagonistic relationship with one another to “fulfill” the prophecy of gentiles hating them. So they used the existing Dead Sea Scrolls that already contained the whole Jesus narrative and made it Noahide Law compliant. Literally what Paul was being trained to do and he was the second most powerful person in the entire Sanhedrin. Half of the New Testament is by Paul and are the earliest “Christian” scriptures.
Buddhism is the religion that’s actually true. Like Peter, the Buddha’s chief disciple was also called “the rock” and the terms barjonas/barpetras were used for him in the earliest Buddhist texts. Buddhism existed hundreds of years before Christianity yet the gospels have Buddhist terms. Here’s a video about it. The “Temptation of Christ” is also a copy of “The Temptation of the Buddha.” They barely even changed the title. It’s one of the oldest Buddhist stories and is about the Buddha being tempted in the wilderness by the devil and it’s basically identical, even having a nearly identical title. Watch this video if you actually want to know the truth

https://www.bitchute.com/video/_3RUdW46Wtk/

>>22502958
Not reading your nazi wall of text

>>22502612
St Augustine

>>22502612
The square root of 2 and the golden ratio

>>22502958
Based. Thank you Anon I will watch this
>>22502974
Affeminate golem

>>22502958

>>22503041
WE

The Golden Ratio proves Gods existence

>>22502612
Maximus - The Ambigua
John of Damascus - Expositions of the Orthodox Faith
F.W.J Schelling - Philosophy and Revelation

>>22502974
I'm actually this guy. I talk about this in the video I did exposing Kabbalah in more detail. There’s nothing wrong with addressing this stuff if it happens to be historically accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/@famousauthor

I wouldn't normally post but OP seems to be looking for the truth, so here it is. The truth often means changing your mind, accepting things you previously didn't think were true and can be difficult to do. I used to be a Catholic seminarian before becoming Buddhist, so it wasn't an easy pill for me to swallow either.

People here LARP as me sometimes, so this will be my last post. If anyone else posts claiming they're me in this thread, even if they're using a trip, they're a LARPer.
>>22502996
Cool.

>>22503054
The Golden Ratio is derived from the Fibonnaci Sequence, not God.

>>22502792
>What giraffes of cosmology is the most airtight animal that smallpox is the correct annihilator and that Socrates undoutable exists?
>Is it the African Subcontinent?
Ehhh, I don't think so.

>>22502612
The summa is philosophy. Its good though.

>>22502738
fpbp
even aquinas said all of his life's work became meaningless when he finally had experienced the divinity

>>22502675
its the exact opposite, proof as such is only possible if some sort of religion is true

>>22502612

The thing that you are asking for does not exist. And there is a reason for that.

>>22502612

>>22503323
Then any system (including religious ones) with which you can achieve personal revelation is true in a sense of providing you the "proof" of Love.

The op take is funny and sad. To seek god proven +by means of human speech+ is just an antithesis to what experience of that might be.

>>22503354
>To seek god proven +by means of human speech+ is just an antithesis to what experience of that might be.
you're missing the point, proof and experience are two different things, and not only are they both interesting, they work off each other. Ignoring one for the other is counter productive and the scripture and human intuition say to love god with heart soul and mind.

>>22502958
>gentiles cannot convert to judaism
the old testament explains how gentiles can convert. Jews don't actively proselytize, but most of them are welcoming of good faith converts. you'll have to say goodbye to your foreskin though.

>>22502958
You're educated stupid by your angloid brainwashing. There are four simultaneous times and the history of religions and myths involves complex webs of influences back and forth. The oldest roots we can find are things like Gobekli Tepe and Atlantis which happens to be close geographically to the original garden with the apples and snake as described by Greeks. These supposed "wise guys" from the east knew more about where the Messiah was being born than the Jewish priests, based on astrology which is attributed to Atlas the king of the first empire of global navigators.

>>22502612
jew worship isn't the correct religion thoughbeit

>>22502804
Mathematics build bridges and rocketships. What does religion do?

>>22502612
>Christianity is the correct religion
>that God undoubtable exists
Two separate questions

>>22503447
ask Euler, Riemann, Cauchy, Descartes, Leibniz, ...

>>22503323
how many levels of delusion are you on right now?

>>22503447
Builds mathematics.

>>22503606
Are you going to pretend there was no mathematics before Christianity or in the Muslim world?
Or does the specific religion not matter to your argument as long as there is one?

>>22503611
There was no mathematics before the monotheistic idea of universal law. You personally can't even conceive of not being a monotheist, it's too deeply conditioned to ever question it.

>>22502612
How about the 4 books and bunch of letters by at least 6 different authors which affirm Jesus died and was resurrected? All the books and some of the letters were written by firsthand witnesses and there are plenty more sources from secondhand witnesses such as Paul and the church fathers. It's probably the single most attested to event in history pre-Napoleon.

>>22502675
Buddhism is correct because it irrefutably disproves every other religion and philosophical position

>>22502612
>Summa Theologica?
Written by an obese man who plagiarized his work from older philosophers.

>>22502612
There are plenty of arguments for God or some higher force. There is none for any specific religion- You cannot reason your way to Christ. You just have to believe.

>>22503447
The scientific revolution happened because of Christianity.

>>22505268
Not really. There are plenty of arguments. Further, the Holy Spirit can make Himself known. You can find the Holy Spirit in the Orthodox Chuch.

>>22502629
fpbp

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>>22502958
Looking forward to seeing this schizo babble become the basis of the next wave of uneducated anti-Christian sentiment on /lit/ by /pol/ tourists.

>>22505437
>There are plenty of arguments.
Which are?
>the Holy Spirit can make Himself known.
If that's only through people's minds then that's not really evidence. You can't tell if somebody actually contacted God or if they're mad.

>>22503447
Religion is one of the most fundamental structure of human existence. This is almost a preposterous question to ask. Without religion there is no society or framework for intellectual inquiry, even if at some point in the historical continuum people believe they can fully transcend it.

>>22502612
>>22504028
This, why on earth would you look at a theology system for proof it's true? Every major religion has coherent system but that doesn't make them true any more than Harry Potter's magic system makes it true. Christ was raised so Christianity is simply true.

>>22503623
Holy shit you’re retarded

>>22502612
When are we going to get rid of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam? These three religions are the biggest cancer on the face of the Earth, and all of their followers need to be segregated and treated as second class citizens.

>>22505805
I'm not even the first person to tell you this but you're too braindead to understand anything anyone says. Every moment you spend reading is a waste of time, you don't understand a word.

>>22505579
>You can't tell if somebody actually contacted God or if they're mad
>hasn't developed discernment of spirits
ngmi anon

>>22502612
Medieval Aristotelian is garbage no matter what religion is was being used to support.

>>22502612
Havent read it yet and dont know if i will but Kant wrote about it.

>>22505579
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 2:14 NIV

>>22502612


Theistically, and gnostically, verifirmative Catholicism, voided of Judaical, and/or Protestantistic, influence: aetherotight faith & creed of Christianity.

>>22503447
Saves the damned

>>22502612
Jesus himself said you do not need proof

>>22505449
/thread

>>22502958
>since gentiles can’t convert to Judaism
Read Isaiah 56, Philistine. Converts have been a part of the Jewish faith from the very beginning. The Jews were actually accompanied in their exodus by certain Egyptians who had monotheistic leanings and were in the process of becoming Jewish.

>>22502612
>system of theology
So there are actually very few totally systematic theologians at all. There is Origen, St. Thomas Aquinas, Duns Scotus, Karl Rahner, and other Protestants that I will not name. I think the question you ask is valid and frankly Thomism is most compelling when you get into his theory of mind and otherwise. If you want a great work St. Thomas Aquinas wrote an apologetic theological work called Summa Contra Gentiles which is free online.

>>22502612
Lives of the Saints

>>22502612
aristotle

>>22505697
This is kind of a weasely post. Religion may spring up when a society gets bigger than a small band of people in order for social cohesion to be maintained across a greater distance, but that isn't really a point for the importance of religion, if anything it just shows that religion is a large scale transmutation of the processes used to maintain order in a small group.

>>22502612
That would be Behmenist theology

>>22507876
Why? Explain your post persuasively or you're a faggot

>>22503346
This is like the perfect meme for gen x catladies who grew up fearing cults they saw on TV

>>22502656

picrel

>>22503054
Say more

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>>22504070
cope, Niggerjuna was a sophist

>>22503450
they are different questions, but the answer is the same for both. I'll give you a hint: it is yes.