/lit/ - Literature

Love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe

I'm reading God's Demon, a novel by fantasy artist Wayne Barlowe. It's about political struggle between demon cities in Hell. The main rivalry is between Sargatanas of the relatively enlightened Adamantinarx-Upon-The-Acheron, and the brutal Prince Beelzebub of the capital Dis. I'm enjoying the Boschian hellscapes and but despite some extreme subject matter this feels like a book for 15 year olds.

>>22487841
Quick google lookup says this is some litrpg or gamelit? also author writing under pen name and promoting his crypto garbage seem like red flags? any coomer/incel/whiteknight/pozzed garbage?

>>22487841
>A Reynolds
progressive sjw garbage. Into the trash

>>22487953
Any good or is it pozzed?

Looks like my infant son is really going to get it tonight, that anon lied about a new Notablog about Winds

Literally me

>>22488005
>Any good or is it pozzed?
I don't know what "pozzed" would mean in this context. I'm over halfway through and it feels a bit blandly like "good guys vs bad guys" even though everyone in it is a demon or damned.

Since OP is a faggot.

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>>22488026
You can ignore anyone that speaks in /pol/-tier memes and buzzwords. Their opinions are worthless.

Had a chance to pick nearly free book and I chose first one from Terry Pratchett's sub-series "The City Guards", "Guards! Guards!". What am I in?
First Terry book I will ever read btw.

Is it a sequel or a prequel?

>>22488301
The first City Watch book is very much a fantasy-style parody of police procedural dramas. The Watch sub-series becomes more its own thing later on, but early Discworld is very parodic in nature. It's very good, though, still. Introduces arguably his best character in the series.

>>22488353
thanks for fast response

>>22488130
Sorry about that, it wasn't in the previous op so I didn't put it there. My bad

>>22488026
>>22488131
Not the guy you're responding to but "pozzed" ("hiv positive") is useful shorthand for weird far left shit, pronouns, etc. I'm not sure why you'd dismiss people's opinions just because they're making use of shorthand. I guess maybe because you like things that are pozzed?

>>22488131
Funnily it's not even a politics issue really, they're just constantly making up excuses to never read anything.

>>22488579
Consider never posting again.

>>22488005
I think you meant to reply to op with your first thing.

>some litrpg or gamelit
More like high fantasy

>author writing under pen name
Pen names are red flags now? Why?

>promoting his crypto garbage
Looks like an old educational blog? What's this have to do with anything?

>any coomer/incel/whiteknight/pozzed garbage
No

>>22488603
No.

>>22487807
>literally a shill thread
God damn. Not even xianxia bs, just straight up shilling.

>>22488615
It has been for a long time now

>>22488347
It's The Godfather Part II of sci-fi.

I was told by a fagget that amazon uses ebooks, hard copies and audiobook sales to calculate the ratings. But I just found out that isn't so. If you are on amazon's website, yes. But if you are on Audible. You only get the audible ratings.
I've seen books with 1 rating on audio, and tens of reviews on amazon.

>>22487807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXqHJYz8NXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQbYiXyRZjM&t

>>22489218
The Zizek of his time

>learning how to make a video game
>rpg with the mix of western fantasy and Chinese cultivation system.
Be real with me, does this sound cringe?

>>22489233
the main thing the chinese systems add to fantasy is a way to have what is effectively 'levelling up' without turning it into a clunky litrpg format
and for a video game levelling is just a mechanic so you don't really need to use the chinese element at all

>>22487953
I was going to order this, would you recommend it over all?

>>22489244
I kinda like the variety of their fighting styles, though.
I have been reading Dragon Tiger Gate, there are endless amount of skills/styles you can pull from the chinese sources.

>>22488005
>>22488579
Touch grass and/or have sex

"Beam Piper" really knows how to write. I'm surprised that he isn't more well-known.

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

Oh great there's the bot again, shitrpg rec incoming

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>>22489244
>>22489258
cringe warning:
My idea for the world so far
>long long ago, the world used to be ruled by Faye people
>they are basically elf, strong magic, lives forever, but low in numbers
>one day, 5 mysterious slates fell from the sky, all of them contained knowledge for cultivation, and martial arts
>human and other races could learn to cultivate, while the Faye people couldn't because it fucks with their magic.
>human, much greater in numbers, and now equipped with their newfound power, drove Faye people off to the east. Faye people now live in a forest, exiled by the rest of the world.
>human now rule the world.
>new nations and empires are formed around holders of the slates
>the basic cultivation knowledge is widespread, people can develop their own shitty style, but the original martial arts that came with the slate are kept secret from most people, only royalties and rulers are allowed to learn them, creating the initial power-gap.
>3 human nations (3 slates) and 1 ork-like nation (1 slate)
>1 of the slate disappeared after the war, a mystery.

Is there any reason to continue on with Ender’s Game after the first book? And are they any less YA-y? EG was fine but I see why it’s something you’re supposed to read as a kid yourself

I was surprised to see the sequel won Hugo/Nebula. Card must’ve felt like a real chad in the mid 80s

>>22489325
Bean’s game is kino

>bdsm
>rape
>giantess
>cuqueen
aight wolfe

>>22489279
To quote Harlan Ellison:
>If Clarence Budington Kelland couldn't make it, how the hell am I going to make it?

The only reason I ever found out about H. Beam Piper is because Scalzi did a rewrite of Little Fuzzy. Just another excellent writer lost to history.

>>22489325
Ender's Game is the one you think is best when you're a kid. Speaker for the Dead is the one you think is best once you're an adult. It goes downhill rapidly after that, though I hear the Bean books are a somewhat return to form.

>reading a light novel
>the translator or editor put "people group" instead of "race"
I'm going to go fucking insane.

>>22488301
read this one while I had a horrible stomach ache. made me feel a bit better cuz a character in the book has a similar problem

>>22489253
It's not bad but the strength is in the physical descriptions rather than the dialogue or characterization which feel a little underwhelming. You can tell it was written by a pictorial artist.

>>22489540
>not only being mildly irritated
How do you get through life being so severely bothered by every little thing?

>>22489643
I don't get through it, I'm an unemployed basketcase reading books on his phone after midnight.

>>22489650
My condolences for your self-destructive tendencies, by which I mean reading books on a phone.

>>22489664
the bing bong chink novels had kinda been catching my eye but reading this has made me make certain i never pick one up

There may not be any books posted here that I read and wrote about this month. The anthology I'm reading is already up to 7 full posts if were to post it here and I'm only 25% of the way through. Probably still be reading it for a while yet and then may not be reading any other sff for the month.

>>22489279
I've written my thoughts here about some of his books. Great fun a lot of the times. Shame about his life. Looks like I wrote about the first one before the tripcode. There's a few others not linked.
>>/lit/thread/15864775#p15873776

>>/lit/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=Piper&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

I'm gonna do it, bros.

>>22489922
Thank you for your donation to BLM good sir, your charitable contribution shall be used to further to noble cause of exterminating the huwh*te race.

Anyone here read the Kormak books from William King? I've read the first book and it was alright, I guess.

>>22489962
I don't know what that means.

>>22489962
Or toward a mansion. BUYING LUXURY MANSIONS

>>22489974
Alan Moore is giving all of his profits to BLM, supposedly

Bros, I need help on which series to start next. It's between The Wheel of Time, Malazan or The Faithful and the Fallen.

>>22490581
Doesn't sound like my problem.

>>22488347
I can't believe I didn't think this would be essential to read. I thought it was going to be some sort of addendum, and it ended up revealing just how little of this series I actually understood the first time round.

>>22490581
All of his film royalty money, not all of his profit in general.

>still no bloodsworn saga 3

Ok, the historical analogues are getting a little too on the nose for me. Do they stop after a point?

>>22490596
None? Don't read a series. Read standalone fantasy like The Broken Sword

>>22490710
I don't know. I stopped reading about two chapters in.
>>22489971
I haven't.
>>22489701
Ok.
>>22488347
You're supposed to read the first four books first or it won't make sense.
>>22488005
I don't know.
>>22487841
Ok.
>>22488301
I've never read any of those books so I don't know.

>>22490710
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH. No. It's historical nalogies through the ass and up to the sky.

Here's a few interesting ones:
>first apocalypse = bronze age collapse
>shigek = egypt,
>golgoterrah = golgotah, where Christ was crucified
>nenciphon = Ctesiphon, sassanid capital
>Inri Sejenus = Jesus, INRI comes from Iesus Nazareth Rex Iudea, Jesus of Nazareth King of Judea
>Ancient North = Ancient Greece, Atyersus is buit in northern (read greek) style

And so many more, you are shooting yourself in the foot if you haven't an iota of ancient history and still decide to read through the whole series. I recommend following an ancient history podcast.

>>22490992
Awjher

>>22489363
>“Disrobed, I will love it as if it were a dwarfish man. I will draw staring eyes and a smiling mouth. I will anoint it with sweet oils, cozen and kiss it, beg its love. Gilling will reply, speaking for the dwarf I kiss. Erupting it will bathe me in semen, and I will praise and kiss the more, saying how happy it has made me and begging it not to go.”
...
>“His semen will violate her. When she grows big with child, know you how big she will grow?”
>The false Idnn began to swell. Toug shut his eyes but found he saw Idnn still, her body monstrous, misshapen, and surmounted by a weeping face. Unseen hands stripped away her clothing and opened her from breast to thigh. He pressed his hands to his eyes to shut out the blood; she writhed behind their lids, trembled, and lay still.

Had to switch my final book from Way of Choices to The First Law of Cultivation. Just don't have the time to sit down and read between work, school, etc. so I've defaulted to audiobooks. At roughly the 50% point, and it's fine, like a low rent Beware of Chicken. Anyone else read it before? Thoughts?

>>22490973
Why are you replying to me, fren.

>>22489363
Add cuckoldry to the list and you have Bakker.

I... did not enjoy the Simulacra ending. I believe it could have benefitted from an extra chapter or two. That said, Kongrosian is probably my favorite Dick character now. No, absolutely. He was fun to read, truly grew on me. He was in his own story.

>>>/x/35888344

Any fantasy books like this?

>>22491226
why would you want that?

Apu Punchau lol

>>22490992
I didn't even think of the First Apocalypse as being a parallel to the bronze age collapse. Although the man remembered that the peoples crusade was a thing, so I shouldn't be surprised I guess.

>>22487807

>>22491393
Pozzed?

>>22491344
Does he get to the Children's Crusade?

whats the hardest sci fi? like something that makes me sheldon cooper if i read it, something very smart
pls

>>22491526
That kind that's almost all math and physics equations where nothing else really matters.

>>22491226
These aren't fantasy and they aren't really close, but ok.
Company by Max Barry
Several People Are Typing

Been reading light novels and I can see why the jap publishers love this format so much. It's the price of a full book and usually only has about 1/3rd of the pages of one so you get triple the income.
>>22491526
Peter F. Hamilton is like that

>>22491564
Disregarding his newer garbage releases, his older books were space opera and basically the expanse of early 2000s, there was really no hard scifi in them

>>22491402
To the contrary...

>>22491226
discworld

Would this be an accurate representation of how the Secret House works?

For some reason /tv/ is better at discussing books than discussing television and film. Is this actually any good, or is it being pushed by the CCP?

>>22491644
I liked it. The intro dabs on the CCP. I doubt you could publish the book in China now. women cause every single problem in the series.

Supremacy of Bakker forever real
His dick makes women squeal
Supremacy of bakker forever true
Noble Canadian not a mormon or jew

>>22491644
>>22491727
I hear English translation is really shit

>>22491644
Should I watch the TV series? I only read the first book, might need a refresher before the second.

>>22491644
Chinese fiction doesn't get an english translation unless it's at least vaguely critical of their government

PHALLUS

Three chapters into Mask of the Sorcerer. What do I think of it?

>>22491901
You think that it was a good idea to promote the book without looking like spam.

>>22491901
Keep reading. It's one of the greatest standalone fantasy novels ever written.

>>22489363
>>22490999
I thought this guy was Christian.

Are there any living /elit/ threads? 7chan is dead. 99chan is long dead.
The federated chans like tvch don't have anything like it.
Where did everyone go?

>>22492111
>Where did everyone go?
I only go on Discord to talk about books. You can find plenty of places with actual publishers and agents who will clue you into stuff or discuss books/book industry.

>>22492116
Are you a bot? Why are you responding to my post that you clearly didn't read nor comprehend?

>>22492116
Dang why can't I upvote this hella epic GPT post?

>>22492119
>didn't read nor comprehend?
How am I supposed to know what erotic literature is in some general? If you want erotica, you need only read Sade and Bataille.
>>22492123
Meds.

Why is Baen Books for chuds?

I'm cooming guys.

>>22492186
I love how these faggots have all of the sudden equated "disinformation" with "online threats of violence" as though they are the same thing, or are somehow on equal footing.

Seriously, fuck these people. Fuck everything about these people. You'd think people who read books would be more interested in actual discourse, but it turns out everyone is just an authority-worshiping spineless jellyfish faggot. Fuck this gay earth.

>>22492294
>AI art
I already have low opinions on smut stuff but at least pay a fucking artist, come on.

There is no way gobbos are this hot.

>>22492392
>pay a fucking artist, come on.
A colour cover with goodish art sets you back like $250-300. Even paying some third worlder from r/starvingartists is expensive.

Ender's Game is just Peter Pan in space

>>22492337
> outspokenly conservative artists

Its insane that they can't place themselves on the other side of the spectrum and treat others the way they'd want to be treated.

I hate politics and people so much. They ruined SFF

Cursed be the mind of one who cannot skip any part of a series, even if one is told they are not connected beyond superficial threads. I read Seveneves by Neal Stephenson and I have never been more enamored with the first two thirds of a book and yet constantly in flux over that last bizarre third, yet I do not dislike it. Seveneves created in me a realization that I love competency, that I love the procedural of experts encountering problems and solving it with teamwork and science and technical expertise.

The procedural crosses genre boundaries, and I love it all the same if its a crime drama or a political thriller or Star Trek's crew of stodgy professionals. I was recommended Flood on the basis that it was an apocalyptic logistics novel of a sense, sure about a potential catastrophe, but also the human response to it. I have read Baxter only once before by encountering Raft, an interesting novel that existed mainly to posit what would happen if g was different. Flood interested me in having a unique pacing of decades as the catastrophe slowly and inexorably accelerated, I got to see the physical and social decay of humanity as the water lapped ever upwards, but I was left bereft of any proceduralism or competence.

Characters exist to see events and to have things explained to them if they're not a scientist, or to explain if they are a scientist. The most competent character is an entrepreneur who solves almost every problem, if imperfectly, through faceless shrouded machinations fueled by his vast resources and an apparently animal dominating magnetism. It did a good job of providing multiple levels and angles of viewing the tragedy, save for the usual role of what the government is doing in the face of all this.

Despite the numerous points of view and the intertangled coda of the main cast colliding and seeking each other again and again this lacked any kind of humanity that I saw in Seveneves, any interesting competency or know-how or conviction beyond a cynicism towards any structure at all. Humanity's role is to slide fracturedly into oblivion. Perhaps this is the taste of some, but not of me. I was planning on reading Ark, the sequel to Flood and the real reason I read this, because I wanted to see how one deals with the problems of space and the stresses of the evacuation, but I don't know anymore. I have some attachment to these characters if only by sheer dint of misery, but both Baxter novels so far have been lacking for me.

>>22492294

IVE never jerked off to a book but i might tribute if some anon has an online pfd er something.....

>>22492602
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=Baxter+flood&search_tripcode=Sffg&search_ord=new

Best scifi books to cope with being molested as a child?

>>22492638
Why would think that would help?

Best scifi books to molest children to?

>>22492648

>>22492635
Decent reviews, I also had issues with the fact that the characters we saw were mostly "cosy catastrophe" perspectives that bluntly interacted with horrors beyond conception.

I picked up The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe, this cover specifically. I was under the impression this is the first of the series, but the spine as "2" at the top. What book comes before it?

It says 25th impression, 1987 on the inside.

Also, is there a good website, other than Wikipedia that lists out all books in series order? I see tonnes of really interesting fantasy books but never pick them up because I typically end up getting book 5 or something silly.

>>22492602
Looking for anything in particular from Baxter?

>>22492602
Read, or watch, The Martian if you like competency porn. That's a term you can look up for more of it.

>>22492663
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?32591+None

>>22492663
The now conventional reading order, as given in some Puffin editions and reinforced with Series number on the spine of Lions editions and later, is:
The Magician's Nephew (1955) by C. S. Lewis
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) by C. S. Lewis
The Horse and His Boy (1954) by C. S. Lewis
Prince Caspian (1951) by C. S. Lewis
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (1952) by C. S. Lewis
The Silver Chair (1953) by C. S. Lewis
The Last Battle (1956) by C. S. Lewis

>reread Narnia a few times as a kid
>never once had the urge to reread as an adult
for me it was voyage of the dawn treader

Does the stormlight archive pick up? It's like I'm being served some decent hooks (what happens when the voidbringers arrive? why did the kngihts radiant betray humanity?) but mostly brought down by the subpar dialogue and mediocre fantasy world

Science fiction writers have forgotten the fiction aspect of it. Modern scifi is just unpublishable papers in its core.

>>22492758
That's entirely wrong. Modern SF is basically space fantasy most times. Hard SF is niche at most.

>>22492753
No, it doesn't. That isn't what it's read for.

>>22492765
Makes sense I guess, I was disappointed when the end of the Shallan steals the magical artifact arc was just "it doesn't happen"

>>22492680
Oh Lordy, I didn't realize it was that expansive.

>>22492686
>1955
>1950

Oh, I see it's one of those.

It'll still be fine to start with this one, right? I actually bought it for my son who will be born early next year. Anytime I go thrifting, I check out the books and am starting a children's/young adult section in my bookshelf. I'll keep my eye out for Magician's Nephew, but don't want to go too overboard incase he's not particular to this series. (I never got into it, but maybe I'll give it another go as an adult.)

gay ass shit

>>22492753
>subpar dialogue and mediocre fantasy world
That's just Sanderson in general.

>>22492801
What in the name of fuck

>>22492676
I really should read it, it does sound, in smaller scale, exactly what I want from sci-fi.

Has anyone read this, probably going to read it next, also contenders:
>The Lies of Locke Lamora
>Earthsea
>The Amulet of Samarkand
>Galveston
>The Gap Into Conflict

Severian after the Citadel gets destroyed

>>22492801
>AAAAAAAAA THERE'S A GAY CHARACTER IN MY FANTASY BOOK OH LAWD SAVE ME JESUS THE GAY THOUGHTS ARE FLOODING MY HEAD AAAAAA PLEASE I DON'T WANNA BE GAY NOOOOO I'M THINKING ABOUT COCKS ALREADY NOOOOO!

>>22493093
Fags in a fantasy novel are like a red rash and swollen lymph nodes on an HIV patient
It's already too late, shit's pozzed

>>22493101
Cnaiur is pretty much absent in Aspect-Emperor books, you can read on without the (merited) fear of gaypipo.
There is a white boy who takes BBC though, be warned.

What am I in for?

>>22492776
Always read in release order.
Always.

did you guys like The Witcher series?

>>22493346
Maybe she wants to get what she knows across, such as the proper nightmare to program the natural admin with. It's more a shape. Think about that scene last night.

>>22490992
But is it really a bad thing?

Shouldn't the story matter? As long that is good, does it really matter how the world is build?

On the other end you have writers who imagine everything up and on the other end you have writers that base their fantastical things on historical details. I'm fine with both and everything in between.

(This opinion is coming from someone who hasn't yet read any Bakker books. But is sorta interested in them cause they seem to keep coming up on these threads a lot.

>>22493115
>there is a white boy who takes BBC
I'm about a hundred pages from the end of The Judging Eye and I hope you're not talking about Sorweel

>>22493346
I like the short stories, couldn't get into the first novel

>>22493468
Ofcourse not pham!
Also there is NOT a scene where he witnesses the love of his life get fucked by a savage, pulls his dick and cums buckets to it while crying. Everything is gonna be fine.

I have always wanted to be part of some lore community. I wanted to read source material for something that is big with geek communities. I really enjoyed reading Andrzej Sapkowski, but I only read one book.
A few years ago I picked up reading 40k books. I didn't feel overwhelmed by the fact that there is 60 of them and still coming out. I read ''Horus Rising'' and it was amazing. I loved this book and I still think Loken was great character. But I was reading it, and it introduced Mournival, it started referring to other primarchs. With second book introducing the other primarch as well as high ranking space marines in their chapters.. and I just got so overwhelmed by all these characters.
My initial goal was to be knowledgeable on the lore. But I don't remember 4/5 of the characters from the books.
I got all the way to 5th book Fulgrim, I read it and I just don't want to continue anymore. Reading /tg/, I feel like it will only get worse because the lore will start to get inconsistent.

Am I just adhd sperg who can't remember characters or are these novels really overrated?
I feel like I want to stick with fiction books that have MAX 3 books in the series, so I can actually follow the characters. Thinking of reading Dune now. Is that a good idea?

>>22493093
Lmao Ey fuck you lil boy

>>22493577
What do you stand to gain by learning some "lore"? Especially a lore as godawful as 40K. Niggas will study a million elvish names before learning the history of their hometown.

>>22493674
Nobody cares around real world history anymore. Also you’re in a fiction novel thread you dumb dirty nigger

>>22493677
we're cool with historical fiction here

>It's loincloth has twisted into a rope, and it's phallus arches against its corselet, quivering.
>Rape floats through its glittering black eyes.

>>22493497
Why are americans like this?

>>22493685
Me too, the other guy just casually dismissed interest in galactic civil war over something like:

>In 1407 Bum Fuck invented wiping his ass with tissue paper instead of using his hand

Zombie lit belong here, right

Got any recs for zombie lits?
I'm currently downloading WWZ and The Zombie Survival guide since I remember those being the buzz a decade ago

>>22493774
nvm, scratch the zombie survival guide.

>>22489922
shalom

>>22493774
>>22493789
We need a vaxxie survival guide

>>22489922
What is this book even about?

>>22489922
hehe
that's a penor in the top left

this felt long as fuck but the end was satisfying at least. great character arcs for the two characters with any substance, the rest were lame and boring

>>22490596
Malazan

>writes himself into a corner
>leaves without elaborating
How did he get away with it?

>read blood music by greg bear
>hmm this seems familiar
>remember the plot is used 1:1 in an episode of 90's outer limits
>it's not an adaptation
How did they get away with it?

Is it possible to enjoy it knowing there won't be a sequel?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the Atreides aren't "the good guys" or that Paul is not a hero?

>>22494164
It's not possible to enjoy it at all

>>22494178
Because the atreides were annihilated and paul is charismatic

>>22493935
Boo. It's today

>>22493093
He's not a 'gay guy' he just got mindbroken as a good. Actually kind of a good representation of homosexuality now that I think about it.

>>22494221
>good
kid*

>>22494221
>Actually kind of a good representation of homosexuality now that I think about it
kys faggot

>>22494178
Wrong, dumb, contrarian take. The Artriedes are plainly better than the other factions except the bene gesserit: Harkonnens (decadent sadists), Guild (addict mutants), Emperor's clan (vain tryhard powermongers in decline), bene tlielax (amoral transhumanist oddities), honored matres (freaky femdom misandrysts)

You'd have to be retarded to think Paul's clan aren't the good guys.

>>22492801
wtf is that font?

>>22494319
>people constantly shill this gay ass book
Grim.

>>22494322

>>22492801
>get molested as a child
>fall in love with molestor and make out with him as an adult
Bakker is fucked for writing this

What the duck is a Chatelaine

>>22494239
>good guys cause a galactic holy war that leads to 61 billion deaths
Yeah nah, all the other factions combined never did something on that scale.

Dune's a pretty simple story about a rightful jihad being taken over by petty aristocratic infighting

Do you guys remember a scene from a book or a movie where a side religious character thinks he's the chosen one or something and then it ends up being not God but the Devil or a bad guy the one that made him believe that. And the Devil or villain mocks him and tortures him for his beliefs after revealing the truth to him?
Can't

>>22494366

A woman who runs a large household or estate or, more recently, a chain that wrapped around a woman’s waist with useful things hanging from it (coin purse, scissors, keys

>>22494337
Sure, but he has a real knack for teasing out complicated relationships between people (& beings if you consider the Nonmen and the superhuman monks) and looking at how social convention and context twist and break simple things.

To the point of that particular relationship, homophobia is a great substrate for someone who wants to exploit a self-loathing homosexual.

>>22492663
The Magician's Nephew, which is a prequel to TLWW. As always read it in publishing order or at least read your pic related first befoee getting to that one

>>22494460
Didn't read, I don't like faggots

How can fantasy literature even be outdated (as I hear about some titles)? It is already based on an archaic, mythical world.

>>22494575
Trying to have obsolete gender norms (unless the world is so grimdark that it's obvious you think they are abhorrent) in fantasy, for example.

>>22494524
>Didn't read, I don't like faggots
You aren't supposed to like the faggots in that series.

What are some stories in which a life of crime is both spiritually and materialistically fulfilling? I've already read Reverend Insanity.

>>22488347
it's a coda.

Brittany!

>>22494524
>>22494322
>>22494319
I hate faggots, and love Bakker

I love faggots, and I love Bakker.

How YA is this series? Thinking about giving it a go now that I have a decent chunk of free time available to me

>>22494826
it's not ya but it's american fantasy so it doesn't feel much different from ya

Just finished Assassins Quest by Robin Hobb
Did not expect these feels. It only gets worse

>>22494621
Fantasy either tends to accentuate obsolete, regressive gender norms or pose transgressive ones, either way sometimes it’s interesting and other times BORING. Bakker makes it interesting; I particularly love the tension around motherhood and reproduction in the series.

>>22494621
>obsolete gender norms
Go back

>>22494903
Fantasy, thought it was scifi?

>>22494826
Incredibly YA. It's battle royale cringe.

This was amazin

>redolence

>>22495033
Not really. This cover is much more accurate as well.

Any fantasy book that have dark themes but not straight up cruelty?
Think of Lord of Mysteries when the great smog of Backlund happened or when the war happened
no bakker pls I already read it

>>22495033
Cuckbreaker is one of the worst SFF books I've ever read. This fag is a fraud.

>>22494660
Les Miserables

>>22495116
>materialistically fulfilling
he stole a goddamned bread

>>22494660
Lolita

>>22495120
His only crime was trying to escape.

>>22495086
>Not really. This cover is much more accurate as well.
That is a cool cover, I didn't know it existed
the ending really tripped me up when I thought Yumi wasn't gonna make it

Genuinely thought it was well written, sole focus the whole book was two characters and you really feel for them by the end.

This has to be the lamest slog i have ever read.

>>22495164
bad taste. goodnight

>>22495164
Lame slog describes every Wolfe book I've read. The most mind numbing is Soldier of the Mist.

>>22495217
>>22495164
agreed

>>22495164
Broooo trust me it gets good on the fifth re-read the puzzle truly comes together!

>>22494996
it's science fantasy and although there's scifi concepts it follows the bent of a fantasy story
also there's a whole bit where they've got fantasy concepts like valkyries because their society got bored and decided to make them

what is the point of this thread, of this board?
everybody just recommends garbage in the hops of conning someone into wasting his time.
what the fuck

>>22495239
We don't read 'round these parts

>>22495264
Liar, I read manga all the time.

>>22495290
Name one manga

>>22495164
Were you the guy that wanted books about priests?

>>22495290
oh yeah? Name every manga to ever come out

>>22495302
Pretty Neighbor by House of Karsea

>>22495309
The character limit makes that impossible so you'll just have to take my word for it.

>>22495164
STEMoids can't write

>>22492979
>Amulet of Samarkand
Wow that’s a throwback, great trilogy and I’d recommend it. It’s a very fun and interesting way to do magic.

I really like The Last Orellon

No system or cultivation shit, I just wish it was longer. I already ran out of content and I’m waiting for updates

Why would you not have a patreon for a free internet serial?

Anyways, check it out. It’s good. World building is S-tier

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/46901/the-last-orellen

>>22495314
>can't surpass the character limit
NGMI

>>22495314
That's a doujinshi, not a manga. A bad one at that.

>>22495343
>Dōjinshi is the Japanese term for self-published works, usually magazines, manga or novels.
Your taste is as bad as your japanese.

Any cyberpunk recs that are >new and >good?

Thoughts on fantasy anthologies?

>>22495362

I liked the perfect run. But it’s not new

>>22495340
>has 50 chapters total and updates maybe once a month

you couldn't PAY me to start that western dogshit

>>22495362
Picrel was decent, it's got flaws but I enjoyed my time with it overall. Helps if you're already a fan or at least familiar with CP2077. It's also relatively short too at around 390-400ish pages.

>>22495384

Is there anything on royal road that you DO like?

There's nothing worth reading in the fantasy/sci-fi genre outside of Lord of the Rings and The Book of the New Sun.

Prove me wrong.

>>22495392
tree of aeons is the only thing i've started and kept following
even thats pretty shitty

>>22495395
Stephen King
G.R.R. Martin
Vance
PKD
Frank Herbert

>>22495354
Using words in English changes their meaning from their original language.

>>22495418
You got pwned, my nigga. Just accept it and move on.

>>22495362
I'm currently reading an anthology of 100+ cyberpunk and adjacent stories from 1950 to 2023.

>>22495340
Yeah it's one of the best ongoing webnovels out there, just a shame it's so glacial both in pacing and release rate because it's probably going to take the protagonist irl years to do anything as engaging as the one chapter about Lord Orellen.
I kinda don't want to read it chapter by chapter but I'd have to wait so long to actually build up a backlog again

>>22495424
Which ones do you recommend?

>>22495392
MoL
I read it when it was new, it was kinda fun.
There's an Avatar the last airbender fanfic that I'm reading too

>>22495462
>I read it when it was new, it was kinda fun.
... MoL had an even slower publication pace than the story you said came out too slow

>>22495467
I'm not the same guy tho, sorry

How is The Wheel of Time? Is it really worth reading?

>>22492801

Lexend Deca

>>22494319
Lexend Deca

>>22495548
It started okay-ish, there are some cool scenes but it does get offensively bad the more you read. The women in this god forsaken series are really insufferable and I hated them with every ounce of my soul. I stopped at book 9 and if I knew it better I would've stopped at book 1.

>>22495395
PKD shits on your favorite author.

>>22495456
I'm not quite halfway through. It's almost exclusively a reprint anthology, so they've been published elsewhere as well. Most of the ones I've enjoyed may be particular to me. Almost all the ones I've most enjoyed have been the proto-cyberpunk ones. I'll go into much more detail when I finish. There's certainly a very wide variety of what can be considered cyberpunk though apparently. At least the editor of this anthology thinks so anyway. So, it may not be what you want.

>>22495603
What the fuck is a PKD?

>>22495615
Feel-up Kindred Dick

>>22495615
Philip Kindred Dick if i had to guess

>>22495614
Table of contents
https://raptorvelocity.substack.com/p/the-big-book-of-cyberpunk-table-of

22495615
Lurk a lot more and stop posting, newfag.

>>22489298
Haha. That sounds like Chronicles of Ryria

>>22494826
Chapter 10 rn, liking what I'm reading so far but it's pretty predictable to this point. The idea of color separated societies is very YA and so is the protagonist but I'll just put up with it and hope it evolves beyond it.

>>22494826
One year I'll get around to reading this, just because I want to have an opinion on it because it's asked about so much. That's what happens when something is one of the most popular things in its genre.

*Ahem*
I love harem!

Real books don't have harems.

I can't believe this book is highly regarded. I got 100 pages in and it was just awkward infodumps and humor that is funny but ultimately pointless. Super disappointing.

I'll still give Between Two Fires a try someday but the anticipation is pretty much gone.

>>22495812
>holy hell this book is awesome

>>22495812
The thief implies he gets fucked up the ass and sucks cock to get what he wants near the end of the book and that he told you a different story to make himself look better. Also, not worth reading now anyway. Buehlman is notoriously slow and is writing a PREQUEL currently that's coming next year or 2025. BTF is a 10/10 standalone book, though.

Read Dune, pretty good.
Read Dune Messiah, was kinda boring
is it worth continuing with these books?

>>22495884
Yes

>>22495884
No.
Maybe you can speed read till god emperor just for the memes

>your just automagically in a market and that means absolutely zero transportation costs across the world for bulk materials like wood or iron in 1840

ok

ok

I like the creativity of xianxia settings (even if the plots themselves are cookie cutter), reading about things like boiling hot rivers of tea and elephants that swim in the ocean with exoskeletal houses on their backs is really comfy.

>>22495944
Is reverend insanity worth reading?

>>22495814

>>22495947
Only if you want to read about a despicable main character getting revenge against the CCP.

>>22495973
I didn't ask that. I asked if it was worth reading.

>>22495995
That's up to you.

>>22495996
Is there any sort of philosophy in it?

>>22491080
So I'm reading Dr. Bloodmoney, 25% in, don't much care so far. The bombs are currently falling so I'm waiting for the 'weird' to happen. So far, I've had the girl everyone, so far, has been lusting over, fuck some random in his bus right after the bombs fell then skedaddled away into the outside after. So that's a check off the ol' list.

>>22496015
Fang Yuan murders a little girl by feeding her to a hungry bear and the author tries to tell you how it's not actually evil because god is evil.

Project Hail Mary has a cool premise but the "humor" kills me.

>>22495395
>Prove me wrong.
but you are not wrong.

>>22495995
yes

>>22496041
He murders quite a few good and innocent people yet people are only upset about that one dead female.

>>22493714
Who wrote this garbo so I know to stay away

>>22487807
>please don't read bakker.
really? I was browsing for something to read on the Kindle shop and bought the darkness that comes before not even 10 minutes ago. is it that bad?

>>22496186
see
>>22492801

>>22493577
I love Dune. If you like the space opera/political intrigue parts of 40k, read it. I'd also recommend Red Rising. As for 40k, the lore gets very inconsistent as you go on. I don't even remember what it was, but I noticed the tiniest inconsistency when the author switched from Dan Abnett to whoever took over after him and dropped the whole series cold. I think it was something about Loken feeling fear after Abnett had stated previously that space marines had their brain chemistries altered to prevent fear and other shit. I hate inconsistencies. from what I've heard, you're in for much more egregious ones if you continue.

>>22494386
idk sounds pretty based to me

>>22495696
Pierce Brown improves as he writes the series. It gets 10x better once you get to Iron Gold IMO. The most recent book was a bit of a letdown for me though

>pretty entertaining action filled scifi series
>literally nothing happens in picrel
>all the action and plot is replaced with countless pages of inner thoughts of pointless characters

What did they mean by this? It's like a tv show that got a huge cut in budget for 6th season.

>>22496184
le canadian philosophy man

>>22496363
Linkup with Bakker when

>>22495821
>writing a PREQUEL currently
it's also from the pov of the dyke knight I believe

The anti-Bakker coalition of chinkshit readers will be destroyed, defiled, and sent to the pits of Hell

>>22496328
I finished Cibola Burn (it sucked). I’m reading other stuff but I plan to do NG because a lot of people say it’s good. Not looking forward to another slog after it though

>>22496328
Yeah this book is a bunch of nothing happens but Nemesis Games is really good and shit definitely happens so it evens out.

>>22496609
Truth shines

>>22496660
But nemesis games came before this? Or what did you mean? Naomi chapters were boring in it tho. I'm actually rereading the series, I've read these 6 books before and started to read them again after I hauled the rest, and funny enough, I couldn't recall anything from the 6th book and while reading I remembered that oh yeah nothing happened in it so that's why.

>>22496328
>>22496626
everything after miller finds julie is pretty bad and it just gets worse and worse until the end

Give me recs for a good story where the protagonist starts off as a nameless mook and ends up as one of the elite, please.

I'm trying to write a WN where a dude like this realizes how empty his life is and decides to go and try to make friends and a family.

>>22496748
>ends up as one of the elite
You mean a powerful guy? Any xianxia will do. Or Cradle.

>>22496762
But I want a good story, not that Chinese trash.

>>22496748
Memory, Sorrow and Thorn

No, moogster, I will not read your shitty weeb novels.

If it doesn't have schoolgirls in it, I'm not reading it.

Looking for some good standalones. Always been a big series and trilogy enjoyer, but I'm caught up/done with pretty much everything I own.

>>22496938
Broken Sword

>>22496895
Pedophile.

Also, I rec Sword of Shannara for anyone who wants to read THE generic fantasy story. It's honestly fascinating from a literary perspective. Like watching the flight of the Kitty Hawk.

>>22495789
>Real books don't have harems.
Fuck you WoT is great.

>>22496678
Through shitposting, truth shines.

Just when we thought sword and sorcery was over...

>>22496969
No.

With that said, I love harem comedy. WoT is just the Western version of it, where men are so self-loathing that the only way they'll even fantasize about harems is if the women have them on a leash.

is there a Foundation reading guide - similar to the Dune guide? the question is: how much of the Foundation series should I read? I'm unironically enjoying book 1 now. the scope is great

>>22497052
>is there a Foundation reading guide - similar to the Dune guide
in both cases you just read the books in release order, not sure what you'd need a guide for

>>22497062
what I'm trying to get at is - which of the Foundation books are actually worth my time? (and not necessarily the "reading order") With Dune, you can make the argument to read all 6 of Frank's book, or stop at God Emperor, or hell just stop at book 1 (my personal opinion). With Foundation - should I just read the original trilogy and stop there? Or go on?

>>22489273
You're a faggot or somth ? Lmao back to plebbit

>>22497065
How coud anyone but yourself know what is worth your time and what isn't?

When starting a big series, do you guys read the first book to see if you'd like it, or do you go all in and buy all the books in the series? I tend to go all in with a series, buying all the main books and whatever else I might need. If I don't like it, then I'll either donate the books or keep them and coma back to them eventually.

>>22497097
yoooooo that guy just got pwned

>>22497065
Holy shit, I didn't even know his son was writing sequels to Dune lmao, capitalism is truly evil

>>22497134
It's a serious question.

>>22497140
>capitalism is truly evil
tolkein's grandson is selling out LOTR because tolkein's son, who guarded the series diligently, finally passed away and the grandson was always butthurt that his works weren't as good as his grandad's

>>22492111
Seconding.

>>22497146
Amazon could get Sanderson to write the sequel to LotR. Imagine Frodo returning to Middle Earth for one last journey, oh yeah baby!!

>start reading Lud-in-the-Mist
>so far just nonsense about some neurotic guy afraid of a random noise
Uh.. dinobros?

>>22495424
Name of this anthology?

>>22497522
>>22495647

>>22495647
how cringe is this one?

>>22497600
That list is in alphabetical order. It's at the very end of the anthology. I'm nowhere near there. It says it's 1,000+ pages, but that's misleading. The pages have a small font and double columns. I'm not reading that way though. It's ~643k words so it ought to be well over 2,000 pages normally. I assume it will be as cringe as you believe it to be.

>>22497182
Brilliant :D

>>22497097
>>22497134
>>22497144
checked, it is a fair question. look all I'm trying to get at is how are the Foundation books; which ones did (You) read and like; did you read the whole series or stop before once you get to book 4 it's a slog? what is everyone's personal opinion of them? of course you all can't know what I'd like but I'd like to get a few anon opinions here before maybe wading in the shit of amazon & youtube reviews.

>>22497823
I suggest looking at the /sffg/ ratings. You can see where most stopped reading and what they thought about the books.

>>22497065
I've got a friend who claims that Brian's books are better than Frank's, and have a lot cooler stuff going on.

>>22497823
I stopped after Foundation and Earth. I do not regret it but i can't recommend it as i did not enjoy any of it after the main trilogy.

>>22498032
Your friend is an idiot.

>>22497065
I stopped at god emps for dune and trilogy for foundation. Both have a solid conclusions for the original stories. Can always go back, too much good stuff out there