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How is theory and praxis not a secular repurposing of faith and works?

>> No.22484161

>>22484150
Faith tries to justify and rationalise the world, theory and praxis changes it

>> No.22484587

>>22484150
It's not a "repurposing". it's an advancement. It replaces faith and your so called "works"

>> No.22484702

>>22484161
There is no 'change' in natural (or "objective") processes. So marxists' claims that they 'change' something only indicates that they are functioning which is not extraordinary or even revolutional
The only possible tongue for marxists - power for they reduce means of culture to it by themselves. This is why there is no ethics in marxism (and thus, no statements justifying why one SHOULD actually participate in their political movement besides their will to win masked in "science" (and even accepting their science doesn't give a relevant reason to become a revolutionary))

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>>22484150
ah you figured it out, it's just Christianity all over again

>> No.22484752

>>22484150
>>22484587
>>22484728
Are you this retarded? Any action you take that's not completely unconscious is going to require planning. The more complex it is the more planning, understanding, theorising you need.
If I sneeze, I don't need to plan it. It's instinctual. I might sneeze into my elbow because I know that germs won't spread to others that way, so this level of planning will be involved in my action. Knowing about germs and not to spread them is theory, actually sneezing in my elbow is praxis.
If I set out to build a car from scratch, I'll need to know a lot more theory before I actually start putting it into practice.
Similar with Marxism, understanding economy and politics is theory, putting that understanding into real action is praxis.
It's not a fucking religious symbol, it's literally something so basic.
Start by integrating this model into your 4chan posts. Instead of doing pure praxis with no theory (thinking and planning) actually try to use your brain before you post.

>> No.22484821

>>22484150
how is your retarded post different from religious scripture like the bible? it's text, it's retarded. all checks out

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>>22484150
>theory and praxis not a secular repurposing of faith and works?

lol said the Weltgeist lmao

>> No.22485006

>>22484752
Faith is no theory but a belief in transcendence i.e something unobservable. "Work" is devoid of any real relation to "faith" besides beliefe. Theory is directly applyable and Praxis is application + observation .

This is shit literally teenagers learn.

>> No.22485027

>>22484150
what's your fucking point pajeet?

>> No.22485580

>>22485006
If anything, Praxis is utterly devoid of meaning compared to "good works" as man(you) is a product of his economic circumstances
>It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness
If communism is an inevitability, then it matters little what you as an individual actually do to establish the worker's paradise.

If it's not inevitable, then it is refuted.

>> No.22485639

>>22484161
Does it though?

>> No.22485665

>>22484150
>>22485580
Marxism is correct and Christianity is wrong. Cope and seethe, Chudley.

>> No.22485676

>>22484150
>how is *thing* not just *unrelated thing* repurposed?

Don’t quit your day job.

>> No.22485839

>>22485580
>If communism is an inevitability, then it matters little what you as an individual actually do to establish the worker's paradise.
Angloid mind virus has you reducing a predicted outcome to a purely abstract, individual decision. Besides, it's ridiculous to claim you've refuted a claim of inevitability based only on events that have already happened.

>> No.22485847

>>22484150
>How is hurpa durt shart purrrrttt

Shut the fuck up, fool.

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>>22485665
Jesus actually, literally rose from the dead. Repent of your sins and go to Mass.

>> No.22486095

>>22485665
>he types this as his whore of gf is taking hot loads in her ass from a third worlder

>> No.22486279

>>22486095
>/pol/tard immediately starts projecting his fantasies
wew

>> No.22486622

>>22485580
>If communism is an inevitability, then it matters little what you as an individual actually do
wrong. if it is something that can only be brought into existence by people through their actions, like communism, then people's actions are still a necessary part of bringing it into existence and they matter a lot as far as bringing it into existence is concerned.
>If it's not inevitable, then it is refuted.
why? of course it's not inevitable. if humanity gets destroyed tomorrow, there will be no communism. it is an inevitable tendency of bourgeois society, not of the universe.

>> No.22486632

>>22484702
Which is why you should be a Kroptopkinist Anarchist.

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>>22484150
Marxism is in fact a religion

>> No.22486897

>>22484702
>no statements justifying why one SHOULD actually participate in their political movement
there's no need for morality to get people to participate in a movement that furthers their own interests. that's like asking for a moral basis for going to the fridge when you're hungry. it's complete nonsense.
morality is only needed when you need to get people to act against their class interest and for the interests of another class. that's why bourgeois politics is chock full of moralism while Marxism is completely devoid of it

>> No.22486903

>>22486652
lmao

>> No.22487009

>>22484161
Only praxis does, and the religious equivalent of that is works. It doesn't really refute OP's point that Marx just refurbished christian concepts into a secular framework.

>> No.22487099

>>22485665
Marxism is obviously false, it’s built off of a false modification of the Hegelian system and worse, it failed catastrophically after a short period of time in practice.

It’s nothing more than a Jewish religion now and a fashion accessory for poor ugly fatties

>> No.22487349

>>22484150
Because theory and praxis precede faith and works in Aristotle. Later formulations may or may not be entangled with Christian thought, but the basics are from 300 years prior.