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22456628 No.22456628 [Reply] [Original]

Thinking about getting rid of all my books. 90% of what I read now is on my e-reader. Physical books are just a huge pain in the ass when moving and take up shelf space. Any anons do this and regret it later? I would keep a handful of my favorites but purge the rest

>> No.22456645

im doing the same.
only books i'm keeping are the few big special hardbacks i have. i.e coffee table books, which are mostly photography books.

>> No.22456654

With my E-reader i usually read 50-60 pages per day. When i drop it and pick up a book i can read a hundred pages in 5 hours.
I find it much easier to read physical books than digital ones but some books just are too hard to find. That's why i use both.

>> No.22456717

>>22456628
use both
also get rid of the fag ereader and get a chad tablet

>> No.22456742

I have both but can never bring myself to rid myself entirely of physical books. For instance, annotations are clumsy on my Kobo but not so with a book. I also dislike that I can only read so far as I have a charge. Next, if a book is no longer valuable to me, rarity it may be, I can always resell for a minor recoup of the price I paid. However, ebooks are generally far cheaper than its physical counterpart. Long story short, both are valuable.

>> No.22456770

>>22456628
Like Nabokov said, only give away book you don't care about seeing again.

>> No.22456771

>>22456628
I would say do whatever you can to keep physical books around IF you have children in the home
the physical presence of books, and the ease with which one can see, select, flip through, and start reading is a huge deal
A tablet/ereader and electronic format books are convenient in a lot of ways, but require more...prior intentionality, let's call it
adding notes to physical books is also a much, much better experience, as is consulting those notes
finally, some of us have rare books, or versions of books, for which there is no existing electronic copy, or again for which electronic copies are just inferior, like art history books, or quality books with transparent plates of schematics/anatomy/etc.

>> No.22456808

>>22456628
If they're pure fiction or something that's more for entertainment, I think you should sell a bunch of them and keep your favorites. If it's philosophy books or the like (something you need to take notes for example), I think you should keep these books. It's my personal preference, but I find taking notes with e-readers a bit more complicated, as I can't write on the page.

>> No.22456832

>>22456628
the non-DRM ebook ecosystem is held together with spit and duct-tape. eventually, either by hardware or software failures or inability to find replacement batteries or companies going out of business or AI-powered copyright infringement finding engines or power outages that ebooks arr doomed.

https://anarc.at/software/desktop/calibre/

>> No.22456880

I did this six months ago and moved across the country. Feels bad. Had been building up my shelves my whole life. The worst part is when you bring everything into the used book store and get low balled by the owner. Give your books to a friend or family instead anon, I regret taking the money and wish I gave them away to someone I know instead. If I did that maybe later in life I could get them back if I wanted them

>> No.22456889

digital material has a shorter lifespan.

>> No.22456901

physical material are subject to catastophies such as fires, tornados, hurricanes, fires, and fires.

>> No.22456965

>>22456628
do it. I was deeply attached to my ginourmous collection, but had to move out in a hurry and had to get rid of a ton of books i did not read any more, or have never read and will probably never get to because of other shit going on in my life. like you said, keep a shelf full of your favorites and some that you are actually exited to read and dump the rest. Ideal amount should be one bookshelf, one and a half atmost.

>> No.22457061

>>22456742
>ebooks are generally far cheaper
they are literally free

>> No.22457069

Make sure you're only throwing away books that are common and not rare stuff you'll never be able to find again.

>> No.22457372

>>22457061
I'm not a smelly communist

>> No.22457519

>>22457372
what?
you can download ebooks for free on libgen.
it's in the sticky you twat.

>> No.22457520

>>22457519
Oh anon...

>> No.22457533

>>22457520
what you said doesn't make sense, even in a comedic way.
theft is more a symptom of capitalism than communism.

>> No.22457550

>>22456628
Sell me on e readers. How is it any better than reading on my phone with blue light turned off

>> No.22457556

>>22457550
The "pages" look really nice. Very readable. Reading on my phone makes me feel like I'm scrolling social media, a feeling I don't want associated with reading books

>> No.22457562

>>22456628
You will.
I did, still have the kindle for "hard to find books".
But I like the physicality of books too much.

I grew up around having lots of books at home. For some it's shoes, for others it's a big TV. For me, I'm happy when I'm surrounded by books.
It sends me a constant vibe of intellect, I'm happy like that.

>> No.22457563

>>22456628
Support physical media. What happens when your ereader doesn't work anymore, and you can't afford a new one? What happens when your favorite books get pulled from being sold on major online retailers? This doesn't make sense to me.

>> No.22457566

>>22456628
This has nothing to do with literature. This shit goes on /adv/ or even /g/

>> No.22457569

>>22457533
lmao

>> No.22457771

So what's the best ereader out there?

>> No.22458350

>>22456880

Damn, what kinda books did you have?

>> No.22458355

>>22456771
>physical books around IF you have children in the home
Yeah a big reason for zoomer attention span is because parents give phones to their kids too early.

>> No.22458686

>>22456628
I had 4 rows of shelves full of paperbacks and when I moved I said fuck it and gave like 20 boxes to local library
since then to avoid that problem every book and dvd video I bought I donated after reading & watching
clean living is best

>> No.22459462

I dunno man, there’s something about physical books that just hits different. I tried the Kindle stuff a while back and I just can’t hold focus. Whereas having a physical book in my hands, I can read for hours.

I think it might be nostalgia because I feel the same way about VHS and DVDs. But also being able to look at your collection just gives a sense of accomplishment.

Plus I have some books that have notes written in them by people I’ve known/friends who have passed away. That’s something I really can’t replace with a screen.

>> No.22459487

I don't get rid of them. I just avoid buying more of them.

>> No.22459523

>>22456628
Most of my old books are at my parents' house. I didn't have enough space for all of them when I moved away so I only took my favourites. I used to buy a lot of second hand books when I was in college but ever since I got a kindle in 2019 the only physical books I've bought are graphic novels. The Marie Kondo meme is real, living in a tiny apartment makes you picky about which books you pick.

>> No.22460253

>>22456628
I got rid of most of my books when moving a few years back and then have slowly acquired a bunch more. now that I have stable housing and am not moving every single year, I do somewhat regret getting rid of a lot of my old books.

>> No.22460259

>>22457771
mine

>> No.22460458

>>22456628
You could own both. Get your books on Kindle, and if you feel a deep connection, or feel like you could study or learn more from a book, get it in a physical form.

You'll learn most books (even if they are really good) don't really need a physical version in your small collection.

>> No.22461111

>>22457550
E-ink isn't a meme, it really is way better for reading plus you can use it in direct sunlight and stuff just fine. 30 minutes of reading from my kobo before bed puts me to sleep infinitely better than 30 minutes staring at my phone (even with the bluelight filter, which I have on permanently anyway).

>> No.22461186

>>22456717
ereader is more chad than an autistic tablet.

>> No.22461740

>>22456832
>JUST a few more decades till your tech is obsolete!1
>*Touched his prized book collection* JUST *pages oxidised so bad he gotta wear gloves to keep his oil off it*A FEW MORE

>> No.22461752

>>22456901
>I got rid of my entire house because it was a fire risk
>now im homeless

>> No.22461754

>>22461752
You are not serious people.

>> No.22461756

>>22461740
Yeah, bro. That 400 year old book on my shelf is totally inferior to your cheap plastic device that's built to break. Totally.

>> No.22461765

>>22457563
I got files that are more than 12 years old on my PC working fine, the website that hosted them died long ago

This theoretical dystopia wherein all tech’s gonna AI-telepath to itself to destroy ePub/pdf files is overplayed for an argument that doesn’t exist
You can support physical media just because you like it, and not for some
>bUT WHAT IF digital’s going to poof and vanish from our planet
fad

>> No.22461780

>>22461756
>He thinks paper sheets of bleached wood will not desintegrate before the plastic and metal

For all u think u know about materials this was a stumble

>> No.22461792

>>22461780
>400 year-old book
>cheap plastic device that'll last maybe 5 years with regular use
What a stumble.

>> No.22461803

>>22461792
Mate you got no book that’s 400 years old, because those are cased in a museum under conditions so specific your home’s a rainforest, slum and desert by comparison

If you treat your books well they’ll, maybe, last long, if you treat your tech well it’ll last longer

You telling me you’re getting a new TV every 5 years? What you do with them?

>> No.22461807

>>22456628
Get rid of the ereader while your at it and use da smartphone

>> No.22461810

>>22461803
Of course I have books that old. Many people do. Here's a Canadian using a cookbook that's 335 years old.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NOh27HRV6wQ
Tech doesn't last. Components are specifically designed to fail. If I did watch TV, id probably be getting a new one at the same rate as my peers, which is every 3 years. Those devices then end up at fleamarkets/secondhand shops if they're repairable by the average consumer and local dumps if they're not.

>> No.22461811

>>22456771
I have six furbabies, but they sometimes piss or spray on my books, so I keep all my storee books in the attic and all my frequently read ones on the closet shelf. That way the angels can read them if they ever get bored.

>> No.22461822

>>22456628
just do both

what I do is if a book is too expensive physically or physically big i'll get it on my kindle
especially if I can get it for like less than $5
it's also a good way to have a bunch of public domain books on hand via amazon prime VERY easily

>> No.22461841

>>22461810
Yes, restoration exists.
That’s not your old book ‘lasting;, that’s continuous reprint of the book as the original material is actively falling apart.

>Tech doesn’t last!!Yes I replace my car and PC every 5 years
Your hyperbolics are reaching dystopian level of nonsense.
>Components are DESIGNED to fail
So is paper by any measure, because it’s wood. You can restore it, just like you can restore/ replace components. Components have a longer shelf life than paper. Because they’re not wood. And components don’t just magically vanish off the market. Especially in a continuously thriving tech medium market.
Your original book however, will


>Every 3 years
Would you have smashed enough cave rocks against it for it to be a piece of plastic by then?

>> No.22461849

>>22461841
Holy shit you are so naive about technology.

>Components have a longer shelf life than paper.
Tell me, why is it that everytime I need to replace a part on my car, I can always count on the PAPER service manual telling me how to service it. It seems to last longer than the things I need to replace, funny that.

>> No.22461851

>>22461841
Anon, you're not restoring anything. You need a new shtick, the cope is sad. You're likely unskilled and completely reliant on an economy that's prone to market instability and destined for collapse in a few decades, at which point file-sharing will have been completely eliminated and a good portion of available material revised anyway. All in all, it looks pretty grim for you.

>> No.22461866

>>22461849
Mate how often do you total your car that you ACTIVELY use the manual?

No one’s naive, I’ve got tech that’s atleast 15 years old and running, even if parts were replaced
You honest to god tried making people believe paper lasts longer than plastic, which was funny.

You got a false dichotomy where you compare an age old book that’s got to be restored every decade, never really used to technology that’s actively used, and probably run over a few times so Books look like they last longer. It’s sad, in retrospect


>>22461851
>Some doomshit where we all return to the medieval times, learn to repaint pages
lol, just learn what oxidation means

>Economy prone to market instability
Like old books?

>File Sharing will have been eliminated
Ok that’s hilarious

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>>22461866
>optimism strikes again
Good luck with that.

>> No.22461898

>>22461882
Please remember me when ur rent-a-horse business thrives

>> No.22462008

>>22461866
>Mate how often do you total your car that you ACTIVELY use the manual?
You're real fucking dumb, you know that. If you actually owned an automobile you will find that sometimes shit simply breaks on it's own. You don't "total" your car to consult the manual. Most of the issues with my car have been related to rust, for which, there really isn't much you can do about it.

Or maybe you just want it to run better or improve it. Last major operation I did was get the AC working agian, the compressor had been dead for years so I replaced it and the refrigerant and the PAG oil. Sure, ran fine without it, but I was bored and wanted to fix something.

But really, the main reason why shit breaks is because it is designed with economy in mind. The engineers could make things that last 10x as long if money was no issue. Electronics are shit, especially for these reasons. After enough uses or time connections get loose, things get corroded, capacitors leak, etc...

>> No.22462018

>>22461792
Why do I need my ereader to last for 400 years?

>> No.22462041

>>22462008
>Some bullshit about how he can’t be trusted with TVs, cars or PCs so he gotta look up in the paper manual so he’s constantly got to fix shit

Reap what you sow, but literally no one needs to actively consult the manufacturer’s manual on anything

>Everything could last an eternity if only the ECONOMY wasn’t in the way
Or materials naturally decompose to different degrees, you thunderbolt doom-autist. Or you’re just that retarded with techPlastic degrades slower, paper much faster with the same usage, simple as

> After enough uses or time connections get loose, things get corroded, capacitors leak, etc...
Literally all is replaceable. Restoration in mechanical form.

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>>22457550
E-ink doesn't actively rape your eyes like LCD screens.

>> No.22462068

>>22462041
>Add
Unless you’ve got to use the manual as much as you drive your car, the comparison remains retarded. Just like any comparison of untouched paper books with daily used tech

>> No.22462125

>>22456628
I partly did it and regretted it. I went back to physical books and rarely use my ereader now. I try not to get too many physica books now. I keep one small bookshelf and of it overflows I start disposing of books. Most books I read are cheap, with a few exceptions. I usually read a book then give it away unless I consider it special.

>> No.22462517

>>22462125
Why not just use a library, anon?

>> No.22462780

>>22461765
>This theoretical dystopia wherein all tech’s gonna AI-telepath to itself to destroy ePub/pdf files is overplayed
>bUT WHAT IF digital’s going to poof and vanish from our planet
what is Carrington Event

>> No.22464002

>>22456717
Erm why?

>> No.22464012

If you're a man and you refuse to use e-readers, or consider them an "inferior" experience, you're a woman to me. This shit is feminine behavior. You're like a chick that feels an incessant need to decorate the house and put glitter on everything and get special aesthetic lamps to read with. You're a gay.

>> No.22464343

>>22464012
Didn't ask

>> No.22464696

>>22456880
>low balled
Sorry, but your books were borderline worthless. I have a ton of books and mine are too. That's just the way it is. People haven't been buying books for decades.

>> No.22465234

Positives:
>Unlimited free books that you take around with you eveeywhere
>Fancy ones can allow you make annotations/written notes and text notes on your books
>Fancy ones allow for text to speech, live dictionaries, translations, wiki lookups etc
>Allows for different formatting: e-pub, rotating pdfs, split screens etc

Cons:
>No physical library
>Doesn't feel as good, eg you don't fee the physical progress of working your way through the book
>Note taking capacities are always inferior to the real deal

>> No.22465239

>>22465234
>>No physical library
Unless you have a need to show off to people with your book collection then this is hardly a con. You won't have to deal with books taking up space and cleaning them up.

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>>22465239
Pros of a physical library:
>Is a valid decoration
>Will impress guests
>Creates a positive environment for learning

Replace pic rel's tv with an ereader to understad

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>>22465256
>>22465234
>>22465239
Hardly a problem

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>>22457069
Boy do I wish I could go back a decade and tell this to myself.

>> No.22465268

>>22465259
Invite a girl over then give me that opinion

>> No.22465666

>>22456628
I do kobo for novels and physical for non fiction books.

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