/lit/ - Literature

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>>22465019
it's amazing how any legitimate criticism of anything can be completely disregarded by the fact that it is accompanied by pictures of internet strawmen

>>22465029
I've met two of these people in real life.

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>>22465019
Hey.... that's pretty interesting, OP

But I'm just not gonna stop reading it (Tolkien's Legendarium)

UGH I know..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The thing is I'm basically just gonna read it is all

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

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>>22465038
I alone was various degrees of all of them (mostly guy on the left) before I grew up the rest of the way

>>22465061
>I enjoyed thing but I no longer enjoy thing because I "grew up"
Congrats? You want a cookie or something?

>>22465038
Then you should have used their real photos in your meme instead of the strawmen cartoons.

>>22465070
I‘m genuinely embarrassed that I used to like trash. The implication that I‘m humblebragging or something seems like an insert to make wallowing in Tolkien the less pathetic alternative.

>>22465082
you sure sound grown up

>>22465082
THIS. I'm genuinely embarrassed I used to read books. It's all nerd shit for fags.

>>22465084
Thanks

I also don‘t use sarcasm because I‘m not a bratty child. Unrelated, I‘m sure.

To be honest I have noticed that the people who obsess over LOTR the most are not pagans, but Christians. They find out Tolkien was a Catholic and then look for Christ in every paragraph. Pagans tend to obsess over the Havamal and the Poetic Edda as they are the only things they seem to have.

>>22465095
>Pagan means Norse
lol

>>22465103
you got me there, but what other pagans would find connections with Tolkien's work? He was an Anglo-Saxon history professor wasn't he, so basically that is just Norse stuff but across the sea.

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>>22465092
Don't care, Tolkien is still the greatest fantasy author of all time

>>22465092
>I‘m not a bratty child
you sure don't sound like one

>>22465110
Beowulf is not Norse
Icelandic sagas should be considered separate from Norse Mythology
Nibelungenlied is German, even though it has parallels in Icelandic sagas

imagine the fat overweight bearded bespectacled manchild who actually reads and rereads lotr

>>22464990
It's a bit outdated. The soviet Union collapsed in 1991...

But other than that it's a great book. I personally love the descriptions of nature.

Wasn't that the intent? Tolkien wanted to be the English Lönnrot but since the old english oral tradition was long gone he made up his own folk lore. It's obviously way better than any semitic mythology, but then again that doesn't require much.

imagine the fat overweight bearded bespectacled manchild who constantly makes threads about things he/she doesn't like

>>22465019
Fpbp

>>22465091
>f word
We don't say that anymore chud

>>22465092
this is sarcasm thoughever

>>22465019
>last guy quote

LOL!!!!!

i cant believe people actually love this schlock

I always cringe while hearing elvish

it sounds so unnatural and obviously not like how native speakers speak in their own non-english land of birth languages

How contrarian and elitist do you need to be to make threads about books you haven't read and still hate?

>>22465275
Yeah man I can believe that ops a fag but I can't fathom reading any fantasy ever, I tried reading dune got 50 pages in and was just sick of it, I mean it wasn't bad compared to some shit I've read but Anna kerenina is where I'm at home, my childish sense of wanting to live out some fantastical Mary sue and the inverse storyline type of shit can only be tolerated for so long

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>>22465491
name 10 slop writers excluding Tolkein from the 30s-50s that are still as talked about as him.
Not to sound Reddit, but will you lot still talk like this when his epic is still discussed in 2050? How much more time do you Pseudo-Bloomian retards require for something to become a "classic".
Oh, "nothing will become a classic" because of some trite reference to Spengler...okay. Have fun wit h that nigger.

>>22465285
>We don't say that anymore chud
Why wtf

I saw a chubby dude with a camo t-shirt and blue jeans wearing a Thor’s Hammer or whatever you call it necklace. He was snickering about something with a friend and had that internet troll vibe. Christendom has fallen.

>>22465345
It seems to intentionally be trying to imitate how a similar listing would be in an Anglo-Saxon/Mediaeval text.

>>22465951
Christendom never mattered. Only Christianity did. Some random dude's soul has no bearing on anything except himself. You should separate the Church from culture. It is a witness and light to culture, but when that culture eventually, it doesn't drag down the Church with it.
It's partly why St. Augustine wrote the City of God. He had to correct a fellow who thought the downfall of Rome was the downfall of everything.

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>>22465958
It's not an actual quote from the books. Are you seriously so gullible you believe every meme posted online?

>>22465975
eventually falls*

>>22465975
Christianity without Christendom is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Christianity was surpassed by an even less corporeal and thus purer and more moral doctrine. Knowers know.

>>22466005
>purer and more moral doctrine.
Sure, it is. You faggots are miserable. You can't lie to me. You'll get hell here, and then you'll get it later too.

>>22464990
>le registered democrat face

>>22465119
All of them come from the same (Nordic/Germanic) source, halfwit. Have you even read Beowulf? It references German and Icelandic lore not written down until 5 centuries after Beowulf was written down.

>>22465296
You got me there. Unlearning the disingenuous facets that permeate language anymore is a work in progress.

>>22465512
Appealing purely to popularity and the ability of something to be repackaged and sold for more shekels in repetitive forms is peak reddit. Your post doesn‘t even attempt to apply literary critique.

>>22466116
Nothing of what you said contradicts my post so I dunno what point you're trying to make

>>22464990
I treat Shakespeares Hamlet as pagan folk religion because that is exactly what it is

>>22465512
>Not to sound Reddit
>you lot

>>22466172
being british is reddit now? sigh

>>22466342
Always has been

>>22464990
George Martin, the American Tolkien, superseded the real tolkien decades ago. The reason is simple: he writes about reality, not elves or (*cough* antisemitic *cough*) dwarves or how amazing living in the forests is, he writes about blood and semen and shit and rape and violence, about real fantasy.

>>22464990
Jewish democrats, you mean?

>>22466342
just say you and thou for the singular..
you lot, you guys, you all, y'all are all postmodern bull crap

>>22466446
>giants
>ice zombies
>le fantasy magickerino
>gajillions of homosexual sex scenes

grrm is a filthy kike subhuman
neither tolkien or grrm can compete with warhammer

>>22465977
aww shame I thought that was a kino genesis reference :(

>>22465512
Don't lump me in with the fantasy hating midwits, I have much respect for my nigga Tolkien I've simply only watched the movies cause as I said I give 0 fucks about fantasy, I'm not averse to reading Tolkien eventually though cause if there's anyone who wrote great fantasy its him by the sounds of it. I do in fact read things made after 1900 negro

>>22464990
>Treats the works of R. Scott Bakker as a philosophical, esoteric religion.
Why are they like this?

>>22464990
HAHAHHAHA good one

>>22465512
didnt read LOL

>>22466121
appealing to popularity is only a fallacy if it's recent. LOTR, as I said, has reached the age where if it's still as relevant as it is then it's probably lindy (I am stating this because you were too scared to answer and I take that as a defeat)
>>22466172
what
>>22469204
i don't know who u r but good on you
>>22469251
you need to go back to >>>/amarna/

>>22469333
There‘s nothing to answer, you‘re just saying it‘s gone through 50 years of different consumer phases.

>>22464990
Who are you talking about? Why are you arguing with ghosts?

>>22466017
Well, I wasn’t saying I think that it’s right. But to me it’s pretty obvious that progressivism is some sort of neochristianity. Progressivism was able to completely take over the intellectual and moral universe of the West because it shipped itself as an immanent fulfillment of Christian promises. It basically turned Christianity into a backwater regressive religion remembered for intolerance and superstition. It was able to do this by appropriating a bunch of Christian ethics but exorcizing God out of the equation, convincing itself that its moral intuitions were the product of reason rather than being descended from reformed Protestantism