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oh, anon, tell me again why lord of the rings is the best fantasy ever written?

>> No.22441201

>>22441190
why does he actually look like a fantasy creature

>> No.22441208

>>22441201
Because he's Jewish. You are a but a sniveling little peasant in comparison

>> No.22441213

Say what you want about The Lord of the Rings, but at least the novel had an ending to it and thus, allowed its universal themes to be developed, and I don't really like LOTR all that much anyway.
ASOIAF, like Wheel of Time, is only talked about to this day because of its sunk cost fallacy. What the fuck even is the purpose of reading ASOIAF or Wheel of Time anyway?

>> No.22441301

If ASoIaF never gets another book, it will have ended on all the characters shitting themselves. Kind of fitting for this turd's legacy.

>> No.22441357

>>22441213
>What the fuck even is the purpose of reading
don't ever change /lit/

>> No.22441379

>>22441357
anal. The purpose is anal.

>> No.22441386

>>22441213
He isn't dead yet.
>t. Tywin did nothing wrong

>> No.22441387

>>22441386
Misuse of t.

>> No.22441399

>>22441387
You can never misuse a tranny.

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>>22441190
>Another germ post

There are many fantasy series one could argue is better than LOTR, but ASOIAF is nowhere close. ASOIAF isn't fit to wipe Wheel of Time's ass, shine Malazan's shoes, hold the piss bucket for The Belgariad, and it can't reach Narnia. Hell, the Oz and Harry Potter books are better than ASOIAF.

The problem isn't the characters, or the plot. The problem is George RR Martin doesn't understand anything. From his interviews, I gather he is an empty headed old fuck who has never given thought to what he writes, hell -- what he believes in, until he sits down to write. In interviews he just repeats the same tired phrase over and over. For example: "No one is wholly good or wholly evil". Find 3 interviews where he doesn't say this.

I'm not only talking about the Geographic and Linguistic blunders in his worldbuilding, which have been mocked on this site before, but his syntax errors, over-reliance on the same words and phrases being used by different characters thousands of miles apart; people born in different classes and cultures (ever notice that people in Texas don't use the same slang as people in California), and his in-universe mistakes; Renly has green eyes in one book, and then blue in another. George shrugs this off and says Renly has blue-green eyes because he doesn't care about the details of his series or anything that doesn't involve descriptions of food, battle, or awkward sex. Harold Bloom once lied and said Rowling kept using "stretched his legs" throughout the first chapter of Harry Potter; Bloom would've had a field day with Martin without having to fabricate an example.

I want to say even Sanderson is better, but I'm not sure. Sanderson is just as good of a writer as George in terms of prose, but Sanderson obviously puts thought into his world and characters.

People don't seem to understand: it isn't that George doesn't want to finish his series, it's that he doesn't know how. It's easy to dictate plot ideas to showrunners, but not so easy to write a novel without a plan.

>> No.22441457

>>22441404
With retrospect lotr is far better as it chronicles the events of ww2 and the collapse of the soviet Union and puts it in simple to understand terms for kids. Addionally the descriptions of nature are very nice as opposed to simple food porn and needless killings. Granted though I'd say there are good and bad people within ASOIAF. Jon snow vs Ramsey Bolton, theon vs euros. But it is up to the reader to decide. However it is extremely difficult for someone with power to wholly good which is death of ned stark demonstrates. If he were to write winds I'd hope the starks would win.

>> No.22441458

>>22441457
Please enlighten me though I'm not a morally intelligent individual.

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>> No.22441588

>>22441404
rekt