/lit/ - Literature

>>22438689
Yea

>>22438689
Dune gets mogged by most genre fiction, unironically. It was only ground breaking when it came out and I only give the first book its credit thanks to its novelty and themes that are relatively untouched in other sci-fi media

>>22438689
It just isn't fun. I started reading the Dying Earth after Frank's Dune books and I had a blast. DE civilizations are much weirder than Dune's. Dune is literally the baby's 1st sci-fi.

Name 3 scifi books with better intergalactic politics

>>22438727
Foundation
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Culture series

>>22438689
"mid" is too generous. The writing, plot and characters are all garbage, the themes are awful, and the worldbuilding is just "dude, Arabian nights in SPACE"

>>22438746
>dude, Arabian night in SPACE

only the first, and maybe the second book. From book 3 and onwards it loses all its "MENA" flair, or any flair for that matter

Dune > God Emperor > Messiah > Heretics > Children > Chapterhouse

Simple as.

“Chapterhouse: Dune” is a bad title

>>22438727
>Dune
>politics
lol

>>22438746
It's even worse.

>we have to fight with swords ... because we just have to ok?!!

>>22438865
nothing wrong with taking inspiration

>>22438875
>inspiration is when you steal word for word
lol that’s called plagiarism, sonny.

>>22438879
I do the same for my romance novels and they've sold for lots

>>22438865
This is anti-art cope

>>22438926
Yes, he should’ve come up with his own stuff

>>22438929
No I mean, the screenshot the retard posted

The series turned to shit once gholas apart from the first Duncan Idaho started being a thing

>>22438955
what?

>>22438689
Top of the bell curve is where the money is, OP.

>>22438700
>It was only ground breaking when it came out
What a stupid fucking statement.

>>22438914
There is so much romance slop we're probably reaching the probabilistic limit on how much you can write on the matter without replicating another work word for word.

>These books are mid af
true
>even when compared to other sci-fi series
false

scifi is a quasi-useless genre, it just so happens to have one half-decent series

>>22439847
It had one (1) good series and that was the original start of the genre.

>>22438879
True genius steals.

>>22438716
>chooses books hoping to "have a blast"

>>22439904
Good stealing is when you leave no marks and no evidence. This is a sloppy job because people caught him red handed. He’s a bad and superficial thief.

>>22439910
Why else would you read fiction (genre fiction at that) if not for enjoyment?

>>22439917
Everyone chooses fiction for enjoyment.
People choose video games to "have a blast."

>>22439917
Enjoyment doesn't necessarily mean "having a blast." When I first started reading "difficult" or "serious" (whatever you want to call it) literature, it was tough sledding, but then a kind of enjoyment often started taking hold, and then, further on, the kind of more muted enjoyment that I would get from reading serious literature could actually turn into the kind of thrilling experience ("a blast") that you can get when reading entertainment/plot oriented narratives. I'm not sure if my experience is a universal one, probably not, but my hunch is that it is common enough that this as a kind of rule of thumb.

*that this [can be taken] as a kind of rule of thumb.

>>22439981
meds

>>22438716
>a blast
>weirder

he's LITERALLY me