/lit/ - Literature

>>22428705
>he wants to write a novel before he has mastered the short story
What's even the point? You're just going to make a mess of it.

>>22428705
Oh, uh, I'm working on it

>>22428705
2 more weeks

>>22428705
First draft is done; revisions are going slow, but it's turning out really well, so I'm not gonna rush it. If I use my time well I'll be done in about a year. It's taken me three years to get this far because I made a massive 16k word outline before starting the first draft, and the final draft is looking to be about 260k words. Got a cover, and I've been setting aside money for the ebook and a foreign translation.

>>22428705
I can’t even finish the fourth line to my poem.

>>22428975
Do the second line again

>>22428705
Deleted two drafts. Rewrote 8 pages from scratch and deleted it again because it was too preachy

>>22428705
My exegesis is in a state of continuous creation.

Is it better to stuff all my ideas in one story or write one story per idea?

My first chapter is 22 pages

>>22428705
I hit 20k words yesterday on the first draft. Its going y'all.

>>22429694
I would think you should tie together ideas that are particularly relevant to each other, which should be easier if you don't have the expectation they all work together. However if your output is low you may want to use all of the ideas in one story because you may have a whole suite of new ideas by the next story.

>>22428938
Bad title font. It's too much

>>22429696
Mine is 3 pages. All my chapters are short

>>22429755
That’s my ideal. I just couldn’t find a good stopping point. Need to work on being concise. Still confused on when to end a chapter and how to begin the next

>>22428705
six whole pages. playing fast and loose on this one

>>22428938
I visited your website
>Another thing I set out to do was to include a romantic subplot that doesn’t glorify abuse or pathological behaviors
NGMI

>>22429747
Seconded, metal lettering. Concept still good though.

>>22428705
Long done, 95k words. Just put in yet another round of major edits yesterday.

I don’t want to write one anymore.

>>22428705
Im at the stage where I read books and I write down all my thoughts and ideas; I have given myself another 2 years to form and collect all my ideas and only then I will compile them into short stories; at this point I think about writing short story rather than a whole novel.

120 pages down. Unknown to go. 1000 words today

>>22429765
I treat it like a short story with an overall arc behind, like scenes in a movie you could say. It must have a beginning, mid point and ending in itself, but still leave space for the story to continue. I saw that in Pallaniuk's book on writing, Consider This. He says this way the chapters become more memorable and it's easier to give someone a random part to get their interest in the novel.

I've written 14 novels, 8 short stories, 1 short movie and 2 game scripts in under 10 years. And nobody knows my name.

>>22428705
i've got a few short stories i need to edit and one i'm about to start writing
i'm gonna wait a bit though just so i can return to them with a fresher mind

>>22430025
are you pewdiepie

>>22428705
I haven't had the motivation to write in over a month.

>>22428705
I’m not making a novel, I’m making a song and it’s pretty close to done

Two more weeks

One day I will write a book that has as cool name as The King in Yellow. Then people will forever know me as the author of that book with a cool name.

>>22428938
don't use the word 'tackle', it's prickly and out of place with the ferngully vibe

It's a ya novel I've been working on for just over 5 years. I'm on my 6th or 7th draft. I really can't structure a novel to save my life. I don't understand how people can pump novels out in a year.

>>22430176
fewer pronouns

>>22430176
>"May I at least know the full name of my champion, Sir Jamie?"
>"Christopher," he said too quickly." meant to say Christiansen. My last name is Christiansen."

>>22428705
Great of course
It's about a patient who wakes up from a coma and nurse finds out he has some sort of telepathic abilities.

Sending one to my editor in two more weeks.

Got to a chase scene. Wrote it. Kind of meh. Re-read the chase scene in No Country for Old Men.
Start getting depressed. What the fuck am I even doing? Christ I suck.
Haven’t written anything since.

Got to a chase scene. Wrote it. Kind of meh. Re-read the chase scene in No Country for Old Men.
Start getting depressed. What the fuck am I even doing? Christ I suck.
Haven’t written anything since.

>>22428908
based

>>22428705
Almost 200k words in, uploaded on RR because I wanted someone to read it. Tying the first one off soon, and then I'll see what to do next. Maybe touch it up a bit and put it on KU, or just start off with book 2.

>>22428938
That's just a bad first impression.

>>22428705
I quit writing it because I realized literature is obsolete and no one will read it. In fact even reading books is almost useless because although I enjoy acquiring knowledge there are few instances in modern life where I can apply it. It's all just fucked.

>>22428705
I don't write novels I just jot down thoughts and short essays

>>22429661
Same desu

>>22428705
finished, copyrighted, sent out to a local agent, a friend, an old acquiantance.
I have a few other agents on a list that at first glance are "actively seeking" literature
>who?
get your own
pro-tip: trawl databases and guilds and shit

>people writing 200k words on a debut(?) piece
shit what the fuck are you doing. I have almost 80k words and that's a slim paperback

>>22429696
>>22429755
I couldn't do chapters. When I have timeskips I sneak in a quote or notes or a cheeky flashback.

>800 words in 3 months

do you have more chance at success if you write a tome?

over 17.000 words in the past three years. Thought most of them were written over a year ago. Right now I'm rereading what I've written and making small corrections.
I wish to finish it in the next few years, before AI finally makes writing a novel lose all merit once any kind of fiction could have been spawned by a machine and nobody will believe it was you who wrote it. I hope this will take at least a few more years at least.

>>22431607
I wouldn't bet on AI replacing skilled writers in the next twenty years.
AI can maybe write better children's cartoons then, say, the most unfunny axe-grinding arch-leftist - hence the writer's strike. Your average Joe that likes to drink and bullshit can probably write better than those moralist automatons.
At the end of the day you need an artist to prompt and curate what an AI draws, you need a writer to prompt and curate what an AI produces, at least for anything quality. Then what good is an AI?
Also, pro-tip, the big chat gpt isn't financially solvent and it's also being lobotomized because of racism.

I've completed an outline for the first time ever, including plot, chapters and characters. I wrote chapter 2 & 3 much faster and had more fun doing so than the prologue. I hope the rest of the story follows suit (I've heard that beginnings are always the hardest), although I have my mandatory service soon and that will delay things further

>>22431637
I'll take your word for it, anon.

>>22431712
AI increasingly seems like a wash, at least this generation. Before Corona madness, there was a big push against AI until isolation made people cynical. The future beyond the next five years is very uncertain but on principle, creative jobs aren't threatened.
The implications of relying solely on AI machine learning to create entertainment are rather interesting. Experts call a certain phenomenon "machine drift", where the intended goal and data fed in to achieve that goal start to "drift" away from the beginning points. This is already playing out in ordinary lives:
>I use spotify or other service to listen to the music I like
>service finds me the music
>service recommends me more
>soon it's no longer my music taste, but whatever the online machine has recommended me, ergo drift
Now look at the potential insanity, in say, AI generated porn
>AI, give me a pictures of multiple blonde bimbos
>it does that
>AI, make them prettier
>it gives them weird 3d/anime eyes
>Almost perfect AI, now don't give them any body hair or wrinkles
>it does this, now the AI is programmed to think hairless giant eyed alien looking anime girls are normal
>the standard of beauty unhinges from reality more and more and drifts towards bizarre insular idealism
Look at /d/ but, if all that shit is done by robot. Then run it like in a closed cycle for a few years, and you have the old/new nightmare beyond human comprehension.
Now for literature. AI is already replacing writers for buzzfeed and equivalents. People are gaming certain forums with bogus content and tricking automated systems.
>chatgpt give me x genre but written like y artist but do that shit for a whole book
Who wants to read that shit? It's only for the most braindead slop imaginable, or a sick perverse glimpse of a dead-end nightmare that corporations in their infinite lazy greed will try to perpetrate on humanity.

>>22431764
i wouldn't really call that a wholly new phenomenon. it's just trends, except this time controlled by machine input instead of a berg or stein in hollywood.

just finished the second act. takinga break from writing for a while to let the resevoir restory. have an idea for a story about a juggalo conspiracy...