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I'm 20 pages in and I have literally no idea what they're talking about. So far they've had tea and lunch and some argument about praying but this is so slow and boring. When does it get good?

>> No.22415802

after like 100 pages or so

>> No.22416289

>>22415777
When you get to blooms part it gets good you could be filtered before that by stephens beach walking chapter so be careful

>> No.22416294

I made it 8 pages.
I decided life is too short to engage in this snoozefest.

>> No.22416296

>>22416289
>stephens beach walking
Best chapter.

>> No.22416322

>>22415777
Just drink while reading and have fun. It's a humorous book.

>> No.22416326

>>22415777
>I'm stupid and got filtered after twenty pages

There's a joke alright

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>>22415777
Clearly, the fault lies with Joyce for not appealing to your base mind.

>> No.22416357

>>22416296
Nigga just cause this is a literature board doesn’t mean everyone’s a professor or even well-read it just means they have some general interest in literature. Unless you’re extremely well read even in just Plato and Aristotle a lot of stuff will go over you there. Still I think people should just trudge through it and get what they can out of it, there are more enjoyable chapters I’ve found and I’m just reading it for the first time, for whatever that counts for.

>> No.22416372

>>22415777
What does "getting good" means for you?
What do you search in literature?

Read an essay or some articles on Joyce's life and writing, Make an effort and decide. Don't expect all books to adapt to whatever taste you have.

>> No.22416418

>>22416357
You don't need to get all the references to understand, here is a post of mine from awhile ago that goes into it some, phone posting so not going to effort post right now.

He wasn't playing a prank, he was exploiting the shift which was happening in literature/the world and being pragmatic. When Portrait of the Artist came out the academics of the time who were largely classicists wrote it off as meaningless, they saw the references and allusions as a classicists would, hints at a greater meaning instead of how a modernist would, hints at the who the character is and how they relate to their world. So with Ulysses he made certain all those allusions and references worked towards something more than just the character, they suggest greater meaning and that suggestion is thematically relevant.

We desire there to be meaning in the world, that our existence is more than just biology and Ulysses plays on that desire. You read it once and perhaps read it as strictly modernist, all those references only tell you about character but there is that one references that sticks with you and seems to hint at more. Then one day a few years later you reading something completely unrelated you stumble on a few more of the references and suddenly there is a seed in your mind, that you missed something, that there is something more in Ulysses. So you read it again and laugh at yourself when the reread brings back context and you see those references can not add up to something more in context of the others you had forgotten. But a new reference or a new understanding stays with you until one day it happens again, another piece just seems to magically fall into place and this time you know better but it nags at you and you give in for another read because how could you not?

He is exploring culture and history and human nature, those references and allusions are so tied into western culture that we are never far from Ulysses, we constantly get little hints and reminders and the more we learn about those references and allusions the more hints and reminders we get, we see it everywhere because we want meaning in our lives and constantly being pulled back to Ulysses is very suggestive of something more than biology. Through those references we learn about the characters and ourselves.

>> No.22416487

>>22415777
>>22415802
>>22416289
Are you guys serious? The beginning of the book is the best part of it. Literally a masterpiece.

>> No.22416492

>>22415777
filtered

>> No.22416498

Its written by a potato nigger and can therefore be cast to the flames regardless of how much literary value it may have.

>> No.22417366

>>22415777
You fell for another meme. People wasted their time reading it so they try to goad other people into doing the same. Just stop

>> No.22417432

>>22415777
>>>/co/

>> No.22417593

>>22416418
Underrated post