/lit/ - Literature

>>22366203
nice art. I love fantasy.

>>22366215
Based.

Almost finished with pic related. What are you homos currently reading?

Stupid question but
Would you recommend reading BLS without having finished BoTNS?
I only have a physical copy of former but e-reading the later is giving me a headache.

What to read next?
>The Wizard Knight
>The Once and Future King
>Ender's Game
>Thomas Covenent

>>22366348
Roll a d4

Asked in last thread but no knowers yet.
I'm trying to remember a book.
Female protag agent, future, space travel.
Radios are banned because an alien race used radio to spread a tech virus that set them back to the stone age. Aliens are back and building some kind of mega structure in space deep in the solar system. Woman has a high tech suit that transforms from clothes for any occasion based on mood. It is also function in that it can turn into a space suit and stuff like that. Super cool book. I can't remember the name of it nor the author. It was just a couple hundred pages on paperback I think.

>>22366397
Ancillary Justice?

>>22366418
Uh no. That's a main shelf title. I found this buried in pocket sci-fi.

>>22366203
I love me some Kreator

What's Good here?

>>22366203
I don't read much fiction, but Kreator are cool.

>>22366441
Mother of Learning's pretty good. Heard Paranoid Mage is good. Beware of Chicken's a parody thing but apparently good. Like half of these are smut or books nobody's heard of, anyway, this chart is shit.

>>22366397
Native Tongue by Suzette Haden Elgin?

>>22366441
You may want to look at the other litrpg charts, they're in the unsorted folders currently until I finish and upload the reorganized version.

>>22366441
Only mother of learning (arc 1)

>>22366348
dubs and you don't read any of those, but read The Recognitions by William Gaddis

>>22366348
All of those are worthwhile choices. Once and Future King would probably be a good primer for Wizard Knight.

Anyone else need a cheap editor?

>>22366461
No. Author sounds familiar but no.
It's not really a "feminist" novel. Main character just happens to be a woman. I mean of course it is but not overtly.
And I think it was just a standalone book, not a series.

I suppose the octivore on chain could fix it at this point... Why do you forsake me lord god?

I just had a dream

>rereading wizard knight
>simultaneously writing a book that is ripping off wizard knight
life's good

>>22366348
wizard knight is insanely underrated, probably because of the confusing way it starts. if you make it out of Parka's cave i think you will find that it is maybe the best high-fantasy novel there is. the christian themes are much more approachable than in his other novels too, mostly because he's said that jesus just doesn't exist in that setting.

>>22366229
Just finished this. What did I think of it? Well it's basically a lesser version of Mask of the Sorcerer. It's kinda ridiculous how similar the story and MCs are, but MotS has more going for it. I liked it though and I do recommend it if you want to read non-grimderp Dark Fantasy and you haven't read Mask of the Sorcerer yet.

>>22366591
The Knight, maybe, but The Wizard is trash.

Any underrated sci fi, horror, or fantasy recs?

>>22366715
nah. i think the infodump at the start was publisher meddling so i overlook it, and after that it's good.

>>22366894
peace (im a wolfe simp sorry) is also severely underrated. not really standard thriller-horror but i think it counts for horror anyways.

>>22366894
Misha Burnett for short stories. He dabbles in a little bit of everything.

Thoughts on hyperion cantos?

Anyone read John M Ford's 'Aspects' or other works?

>>22366972
The 4 volumes or just the first 2?

>>22366999
check'd
either, thinking of reading it all. I've heard some of the books are fucking awful and others are amazing.

>>22366972
hyperion book 1 is so much more based than the entire rest of simmons work that it's a miracle that it exists at all. unfortunately it has a lot of hanging plot threads for the second book to resolve, and the second book fumbles so unbelievably hard. read book one anyways, but my advice is to let the mystery stay mysterious.

>>22366997
I've read The Dragon Waiting. Was not an easy read, but well worth it. The characters were all fantastic.

>use of weapons
That was good.

>>22366229
Jumping between Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath and Ship of Magic

>>22366591
Ya know, The Wizard Knight is something that keeps coming up (here) but every time i go and read the basic premise i get disinterested and forget about it.

I just don't like the stick of someone being transported to another world. It makes both places feel more "dreamy and unimportant" to me. Almost like what a "it was all a dream ending" does to everything before it.

Or i suppose i just want to read a certain type of fantasy. Perhaps. Something where everything just is about it and we don't need to read about a truck driving joe shmo existing even if it's just for a page. It almost feels prententious, i'm already doing a certain amount of believe suspending when i pick a fantasy book up, i don't need an everyman telling me how fantastic everything is by an actual character in the book. Yeah i know!

But i dunno, what do you guys think about that?

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

>>22367456
The term is schtick not stick.

>>22366450
>Heard Paranoid Mage is good
Only volume 1 has any worth

>>22367497
>Azarinth Healer
Is it kino?

>guys I posted the bait again XD

>"the queen slid a finger into that Myrish swamp"
got weird looks for laughing on the tube, thanks George you fat wierdo

Business idea: The Mask of the Sorcerer & Call of the Crocodile together in a 1 volume omnibus called CROCODILE OR EVATIM

>>22367456
>Forgive me, master... I must go all out this one time

>>22367527
Do you consider mind numbing action scenes kino?

>strong, independent female MC disguises herself as a scantily clad dancer or courtesan to get past the bad guys

God this trope is so kino. Any more series with it? Recently read Godstalk and Elfshadow

>>22367504
Fucked in the abs by autocorrect, yet again :/

>>22367456
The story is framed as the main character writing a letter to his brother (in America) describing his adventures in the Nine Realms after he gets stolen by elves (Aelfs) as a childx. He is writing the letter after spending decades in the other world and as far as I can remember he never even considers trying to go back to America or thinks that the fantasy world isn't real.

>>22368024
unsurpassed

I must've downloaded or torrented 20 different version of the Silmarillion by now, and they all offer the same OCR'd text full of spelling mistakes.
Does anyone know where I can pirate a decent edition of it?

>>22368024
Is this something that needs to be read in its native language? I've seen it sincerely shilled that many times here that I decided to give it a go (despite having no experience or real desire to read progression/litrpg stuff) and it reads like the most juvenile bullshit ever. Like something I could've written at age 12. What am I missing?

>>22368076
buy it, fool

>>22368092
The entire genre is just wish fulfillment for edgy teens so you're not missing anything.

>>22368124
Ah, and you're so much better because you read wish fulfillment for edgy adults.

12 Miles Below

https://www.amazon.com/12-Miles-Below-Progression-Fantasy-ebook/dp/B0BWKDF1C7

Icy death above. Monster-filled dungeons below. He must fight or freeze.

Extreme sub-zero temperatures suffocate the surface. Frozen structures of bygone eras span across massive ice-wastes. And the survivors closely guard any technology rediscovered within them.

The only escape from the deadly climate is beneath the surface, but that doesn't mean it's safe...

Monstrous machines lurk in the depths. Unhinged demigods war against them, dying over and over, treating it all like a game. The depths themselves shift over time, more contraption than rock.

When an expedition into the far uncharted north goes terribly wrong, Keith Winterscar and his father get trapped together in a desperate fight for survival. Stumbling upon an ancient war of titanic scale, the two will need to set their differences aside while they struggle against gods, legends, and the secrets of the realm that lies below.

Gene Wolfe is the Umberto Eco of science fiction and fantasy.

I can’t decide if I want to read wheel of time or malazan. Which one do you guys like more and are books 7-10 of WoT really that bad?

>>22368172
My understanding of books 7-10 of WoT is they're effectively a whole lot of very little happening, but not so little you can just skip them.

>>22368172
Unironically read The Second Apocalypse instead. However if you must read on of the two you mentioned, Malazan. That is at least written for non-retards. I got through book 1 of WoT and maybe a third of 2 - that was all I could tolerate.

>>22366229
Loved this book. I highly recommend following it up with Schweitzer's short story cycle set in the same realm, "Echoes of the Goddess."

Darrell himself will sell you a new copy with a signature if you order from his ebay.

>>22366229
Reading Mask Of The Sorcerer at the moment. Kind of surprised at the lack of tangible plot present, feels like one giant hallucination. Reminds me of some of Dunsany's more narrative works (King of Elfland's Daughter) in that it's more about the creation of atmosphere than a straightforward story. Like Dunsany also, the language and prose is pretty, but I prefer the older, more ornate style.

>>22368092
You need to have some experience reading other, worse, chinese webnovels to "get" it. There's a lot of playing around with tropes found in the medium

Urth is a play on the words Ur (primitive, original) and Earth.

>>22368186
>>22368194
Schweitzer is underrated love that nigga
read We are all Legends

>>22367456
like most wolfe novels the premise is fundamentally an excuse for the narrative voice he wanted to use. he wanted to write a fantasy novel from a perspective where he could say shit like "I swam in and out of the waves and had a big time" without the setting being one where it would make sense for the narrator to talk like a weird little american kid. i can't convince you not to be autistic-style rigid about your preferences, i can only tell you to trust the wolfe.

>>22367705
No...

This cover looks so sick I'll probably never find this book at a shop ugh

>>22368092
how far did you get?

>>22368318
Can't you order it off the interweb?

>>22368172
>>22368178

I read PoN trilogy a while ago and I enjoyed it but never continued for some reason.
I think I’m gonna try Malazan. Thanks.

>>22366203
Anyone got any recommendations for good wizard books? Stuff that gets into the mechanics and process of magic and/or has badass greybeards slinging spells.

>>22368372
I'm not paying 60 bucks for a used book

>>22368435
What have you read?

>>22368436
ngtmi

>>22366348
Just don't read the Wizard Knight. Waste of time. Read something else

>>22368436
You can get them for much lower if you regularly visit bookstores

>>22368455
TSTSSSFG

>>22368451
LotR
A lot of Pratchett
Name of the Wind
Storm light
Tried Wheel of Time but got filtered

I quite liked the magic in name of the wind but I'd like something with more bombast.

>>22368473

>>22368473
Try Jack Vance's Dying World if you haven't yet. It might be the first example of a magic 'system', which is why Gygax lifted it for D&D.

>>22368318
That same artwork is on a kino Metal album.
Also 90's Outer Limits adapted this story.

>>22368186
>>22368194
To me DS is like the quintessential 'dark fantasy' writer. His stuff really does feel like you're reading a nightmare, but he doesn't wallow in nihilism, misery, edginess, or subversion like your average grimderp writer.

I have a huge problem where I fucking LOATHE a lot of more modern writing, especially writing for dialogue. Authors think they are too cool.

Im trying to read some sci-fi horror because Im on a replay of the Dead Space series, but I dont know. People recommended The Expanse but I cringe at the dialogue and some of the writing in general.

Anyone get their hands on that new Cyerpunk book and have any thoughts.

>>22366203
In 2080, the final human generation is dying out. The world is no longer habitable. A tipping point of no return was reached around 2050. Research into time travel had long been underway. The scientists, under the auspices of the last remaining authority, The World Health Organization, have recruited five individuals to travel back in time from their base in Antartica. The protagonist, a 71 year old Russian woman, is the first to time travel by sending her consciousness back in time to pilot a woman in around 2030, 50 years ago. The question remains of whether altering the past to save the present will doom the future.

I appreciated the detailed explanation of how any of this could be even theoretically possible. There are many different ways presented in media of how time travel functions and I find their comparisons interesting. The narrative has a few twists and surprises, mostly resulting from the alternation of being told from the present and past. Time travel shenanigans are present, though they're easily understood. For some the the largest problem may be in how anticlimactic it may seem to be. I found that to be rather amusing and certainly the best usage I've seen of Reynolds suddenly skipping stuff and not writing any of it. Unlike much else of Reynolds's work there's only a minimal amount of body horror, the weird, and identity problems. This novella could possibly be considered significantly divergent from his usual work.

What I'm most surprised by in this standalone near future SF thriller novella is that Reynolds wrote something that doesn't need to be reduced in length. That hasn't been the case for anything other than the shortest fiction I've read from him. It also reads better to me than most else I've read from him. As a probably unrelated note this was published the year before Tenet, the movie, screened in theaters. There's not that much similarity between them aside from both being time travel thrillers where much doesn't go as planned. I enjoyed this more than Tenet, which was far more concerned with coolness than science. That's nice and all, but it didn't work out that well to me, unlike Permafrost. There are also some similarities with the videogame series, Zero Escape.

Somehow this novella is now what I've personally enjoyed most of what Reynolds has written at of least novella length. He has a few works of short fiction I've enjoyed more. Inversion would've been better if it weren't so repetitive and hadn't gone so wrong. So, this being the best isn't a high bar for an author that I initially rejected, then tried again at the urging of someone, and have since then found to be decent overall. Apparently I prefer his near future work to his far future space opera, though I don't believe that would be the same for the vast majority of those who read him. I hope he does more that's similar to this. I'll be reading more from him regardless.

Rating: 3.5/5

>>22368603
Permafrost - Alastair Reynolds (2019)
So go copypaste fails since the previous paste didn't need the author or title.

>>22368603
It's pozzed. This was a while ago, I wanted to read this novel until I saw some review or something that made me change my mind. I don't exactly remember how it's pozzed but it is pozzed.

>>22368627
As noted it has AN ELDERLY FEMALE PROTAGONIST. THE HORROR!

>>22368640
Gross.

>>22368172
Never read Malazan but WoT is actively infuriating. Books 1-4 have the same flaws as the rest of the series but move fast enough that they are still fun. As the series goes on the fun:garbage ratio gets worse and worse, but slowly enough you don't realize at first that you are being boiled. That until you are reading Lord of Chaos with a migraine as Jordan tortures you with every tired joke repeated ad nauseam, every Nynaeve, Faile, or Egwene chapter, every chapter of walking into inns in [some town], every chapter of nothing happening except infuriating character interactions. Reading this series is masochism.

>>22368601
Has there been anything since Neuromancer that has advanced the cyberpunk genre at all? Not trying to throw shade, genuinely curious.

>>22368737
What do you mean by "advanced"? Post-cyberpunk exists and so do other variations.

>>22368760
I'm not a big SF reader, but what books released after NM actually bring new ideas to the table in cyberpunk? What's an example of post-cyberpunk

>>22368767
Subgenres are defined by their tropes and similar ideas. If they had "new ideas" it arguably wouldn't be the same.

https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/cyberpunk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_derivatives

>>22368793
>another zoomer defending the derivative meme age of shit art we live in by explaining what genre is

>>22368812
It's not a defense. It's stating what genre is.

>>22368793
I'm not asking about genres spastic, I wanted to know which specific cyberpunk novels build on the ideas and concepts the Gibson first introduced.

>>22368865
He didn't introduce them though. He built upon existing ideas. Most of those ideas are either too commonplace now to say they are part of it or too mistaken to be used.

>>22368865
Snow Crash

>>22368865
>refuses to read the linked encyclopedia entry that explains exactly what he wants

>>22366441
Mother of Learning is good but you'll probably get bored
Beware of Chicken is perfectly fine if you want a slice of life fantasy. It's set up as a parody of chinese fantasy but it's more like a rune factory story.
Worth the Candle, DotF, Paranoid Mage and Legend of the Arch Magus are all bad

>>22368092
It is actually very well written when read in its original language. But unfortunately, either due to incompetence of translators or the sheer differences between languages when translated into English, it comes out reading like Sandersnoy slop. Even the best poems in the Chinese language sound like rupi kaur poems when translated to English, having neither rhythm or rhyme.

>>22366441
Ranges from total dogshit to barely readable slop, there's a reason this shit is published online and espoused solely by ESL retards, troglodytes, and trolls.

Any recommendations for this kinda feel?

>>22369051
Claw of the Conciliator

>>22368281
Well that is a reasonable take on the matter. I can understand that. I'll add them to my backlog. Thanks.

>>22368941
It reads fine. Most importantly the story, plot and pacing are all excellent, prose is not on classical English level but when all others aspects of the novel are well executed then even simple prose is sufficient.

How do you guys find new fantasy books? As in new new. Like, how did Brandon Sanderson first get discovered where people read his books and go "yeah, this stormlight archives thing is pretty good". Where does someone go in 2023 to check out new authors instead of reading a recommendation list?

>>22369241
Sanderson, to my understanding, mostly became really known after finishing Wheel of Time. He was doing alright for himself and obviously Jordan's wife knew of him to ask for him, but still.

>>22369241
I assume you mean popular new debut authors rather than simply new releases. It takes time for an author to become popular. Sanderson had over a dozen novels written before he got one published. Stormlight isn't his most popular. His debut was Elantris in 2005. Way of Kings was 2010 and some books later. Most debut authors are unknown and it may take years to have a consensus. So, the answer is you can't know. The best you can do is look at new debut authors and read them or know a lot of people who do that.

>>22368577
that's so fkn true lmao
you know any other works in this vein ?

>>22368092
>juvenile
RI is perhaps the least juvenile story posted about here.
If you just mean the prose is very bland, that's a consequence of translation. If you just read through that you'll see the underlying story is so fantastic you don't even care. It's at least perfectly readable and there are no blatant mistranslations or errors.
The funny part is apparently it's got a reputation for being excessively literary and poetic in the original, which may be the reason the translation is so difficult. You'd need some sort of language expert on english AND chinese, and also for that expert to be interested in xiaxia webnovels. Not a big overlap I imagine.

>>22369241
Because if you simply mean new traditionally published fantasy releases it's trivially easy to find lists of upcoming releases.

Any Wolfe fans here get The Dead Man and Other Horror Stories? It's a Wolfe short story collection which includes some short stories that have not been collected before. All/most of the stories apparently have a horror bent. I have been wanting to get into Wolfe's short stories and this seemed like a fine opportunity. It is also a limited edition.

>>22369241
For me personally I look through what's what's available. Most would probably prefer something more curated, though that would be a rec list. There's not much else you can do besides looking through what's available yourself if the opinions of others aren't used. I can provide what I've recently read if you want.

>>22366997
isn't that unfinished? coz he died in between. I like his writing but no way I'm reading something not complete which will leave me with blue balls, specially something like a complexly plotted fantasy story

>>22367527
it's garbage

>>22368024
anyone else miss the guy who used to respond to this pic with bug spray?

>>22368076
try out all of these I guess
https://annas-archive.org/search?lang=&content=&ext=&sort=newest&q=Silmarillion

>>22369305
i tried getting into wolfe short stories with Innocents Aboard and even i couldn't do it. it's hard to believe they're by the same guy who writes his novels.

I was today yrs old when I found out Vecna is a tribute to Jack Vance (anagram)

Began reading Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson and I quite like it, particularly how genuinely funny it is, but this doesn't seem to be the case with his other novels. Is there any other novels by Stephenson or other authors that are similar to Snow Crash's comic tone?

>>22369287
Pic related is good if you don't mind reading short stories.

>>22369490
I used to, I don't nowadays, thx

>>22369499
Based.

>>22369241
There's new releases lists, I used to just go through them and pick out anything interesting.
Alternative is finding readers/authors whose taste you actually respect and seeing what they're reading on goodreads.

Why is there no definite edition of the complete short stories of Gene Wolfe?

>>22369544
Because a lot of those stories were written for magazines that publishers often couldn't get the rights to. Although there is more of a push now to get those stories.

I noticed that TOR publishes both Wolfe's work and R.A. Lafferty's work. So what's TOR's gimmick as opposed to other SF/Fantasy publishers. What type of stories are they focused on?

Anyone reading any decent serials on Substack? Seems like there might be some "hidden gems" on there.

>>22368865
Snow Crash
Diamond Age
and, weirdly, the Difference Engine

>>22369578
Why tho

>>22369399
Yeah it's eight chapters of a multi volume series. But I knew that going in. I read it more for a sample/example of a his style.

>>22369575
TOR is by far the largest and most influential SFF publisher for the English language. They also may be the one pushing hardest for contemporary ideals. They publish more diversity than almost any other. Racial and sexual minorities are an especial focus. Women dominate their releases. Times change. What you speak of is several decades in the past.

>>22369588
Why not?

Rereading the Dune series up until they get shit right now. The first time though I was so high on spice that I nearly became the kwisatz haderach, but on a sober pass I have a few questions. Too many for spoiler tags, so if you haven't read them all, go to the next post. Im serious. Stop reading.

1. Why did Alia lose her prescience? In Messiah she can definitely see the future, though maybe not as well as Paul, but it says she loses the power after Chani dies. Paul only lost his temporarily out of grief then, so Im not sure why she lost it forever.
2. Paul's actions in Messiah destroyed all the current conspirators against him (the retarded latter books dont exist), but why did he have to go into the desert? Whether or not his end goal at that point was Leto becoming Earthworm Jim, did it really make a difference? The empire is basically unchanged between Messiah and Children, except now Mad Vlad is close to running the show through Alia.
3. I think I have this right, but point out any errors: Paul is the KW, has prescient vision from his genes activated by the spice, but no ancestor memory. Alia is a failed KW and also a Reverend Mother, who can see the future imperfectly because her power was awakened as an undeveloped fetus through the water of life, and can also can access the ancestral memories like BG, but as an Abomination the memories become schizo personalities within her (pretty sure the latter books make all BG's like this which is stupid) and will eventually drive her insane/possessed. The twins are the same as Alia, but as the children of the KW mated with coincidentally good genes from Chani, their prescient powers are stronger and they can resist possession easier.

While some of this confusion is my fault, I get the feeling Herbert just had stories and messages he wanted to tell and didn't give too many shits about consistency in the wikia four decades later. Maybe totally obliterated on the spice out in the desert is the right way to read these.

>>22368603
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>>22368640
>AN ELDERLY FEMALE PROTAGONIST
i will now read your book

>>22368225
>read We are all Legends
Based
Why is this book so overlooked and forgotten
It's great
Stephen fabians illustrations for it are great too

>>22369051
Tanith lee horror books, she has dozens of them.

>>22368225
>out of print
>no ebook version
Why would you do this

>>22369729
>no ebook version
he doesn't know...

>>22369734
I found it on archive.org

>>22369810
same, i've found a lot of obscure stuff there like the Jade Demons Quartet

>>22369729
Its in PDF on Libgen, just conver it

>>22366397
Sounds like everyone on this board is a hack because nobody knows.

>>22368455
>hardback Masters of Deceit
Jelly.

That sandkings adaption was awful though apparently a netflix version may happen so that's exciting

>>22369688
Ive read them all but forgotten most of it,you may get a better response to ur questions if you post this on https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/

anons here just read chinkshit webnovels and smut

>try for decades to become a successful and well-known science fiction and horror author
>eventually give up and do other sorts of writing
>decide to write a fantasy novel instead as a final attempt when almost 50
>become one of the biggest names ever in fantasy
>profit
>don't finish the series

>>22369975
PKD was right, never trust fat fat "people"

>>22366397
>Asked in last thread but no knowers yet.
>I'm trying to remember a book.
>Female protag agent, future, space travel.
>Radios are banned because an alien race used radio to spread a tech virus that set them back to the stone age. Aliens are back and building some kind of mega structure in space deep in the solar system. Woman has a high tech suit that transforms from clothes for any occasion based on mood. It is also function in that it can turn into a space suit and stuff like that. Super cool book. I can't remember the name of it nor the author. It was just a couple hundred pages on paperback I think.
The book is "The Quantum Thief", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quantum_Thief

>>22368737
>Ribofunk by Paul Di Filippo
focuses on biotech and gets weird
>Rim by Alexander Besher
is more depth in Japanese and other Asian cultures, Besher was raised and went to uni in Japan
>Snowcrash by Neal Stephenson
a look at the suburbs in a corporate dystopia
>Vurt by Jeff Noon
cyberpunk but magical archetypes (not elves or orcs etc). the dystopian manchester setting also sets it apart

>>22369443
He also resembles Corum somewhat.

>>22369471
Sewer, Gas and Electric by Matt Ruff is the droid you're looking for

>>22370004
>maniacally bash out short fiction rough drafts while severely psychotic and entirely strung out on all types of drugs
>be paid less than poverty wages for it, because it is mostly trash
>write various novels in a similar way
>become embittered that your mainstream literary novel was a complete failure
>have a complete emotional breakdown and max out on psychosis
>die without being known as a success
>be adapted but not known that they'te yours
>People say you have great ideas but terrible prodr
>Develop a cult following of your exegesis
>Have a poster in 2023 only have a use for you as an attack on fat people

>>22367527
No. A bland mediocrity.

I can't remember ever being excited about an adaptation of any kind of a scifi novel.

>>22369051
Robert Aickman

>>22370134
Aniara was alright

>>22370134
You probably didn't know it was one, don't read or watch, didn't know in advance, or generally don't become excited about stuff matters. Doesn't it matter more whether you enjoyed it, or is that what you meant?

Was looking at webnovel author patreons and they've gotta be making more money than traditionally published authors right
Like the non-mega stars of royalroad aren't making insane money compared to real jobs but vs standard publisher advances they're coming out ahead without any worry of rejection

>>22370186
What i mean is that i prefer the original stories. Even if they are outdated or unfashionable elements.

>>22370219
So you're saying you don't like adaptations in general? Well, ok.

>>22370044
Nope.

>>22370210
I assume you were looking at something like https://graphtreon.com/
You have to consider what percent of authors have a Patreon and how much they are making. It'd be irrational to only compare You also have to know how much the traditionally published authors are making and how much advances are. You also need to know how much a "real job" makes. Anything other than that is emotional reasoning. If you're worried about rejection and criticism it'll be difficult to write for an audience regardless. If you think that's coming out ahead, you're already far behind and are looking for shortcuts.

Anyone know anything similar to Clark Ashton Smith? I've looked around a bit and haven't found anything that scratches the itch.

>>22370210
They're also writing faster, and with no merit given by their audience that matters to them or that might advance their careers to a point where they might no longer need to write so fast. It's a treadmill and when you get tired of it you'll need to find something else to do anyhow. It's not a bad way to pay the bills but it's not glamorous. Neither is being a traditionally published author, but they're different. Whether one makes ten or fifty percent more than the other doesn't really matter. They're different jobs for different writers to take.

>>22370480
nta. The content creation treadmill applies a lot these days. YouTuber, substacker, Twitch streamer, lifestyle influencer, and anything that assumes long hours and having to keep a parasocial audience interested in you.

>>22370436
Most authors that have any notable success or longevity have something about them that others authors don't have so it's to be expected that you can't find someone who does in the same way.

>>22366441
this is what happens when you let ESLs from /a/ post here

>>22370088
Sewer, Gas and Electric by Matt Ruff
Published September 10, 2004
>The year is 2023
>Ayn Rand has been resurrected
>submarine designed by Howard Hughes
>Volkswagen Beetle is possessed by the spirit of Abbey Hoffman
>a vast conspiracy involving Walt Disney, J. Edgar Hoover, and a mob of homicidal robots.
Jesus Christ what a fucking boomer

>>22370299
That's exactly what i said.

>>22370567
Could've just wrote: "I don't like adaptations."

>>22370630
I thought about it actually, and I can't think of a really good sci-fi adaptation that I've really liked besides Men in Black. Blade Runner is considered good but I didn't really like it. I can't even think of any others off the dome even worth mentioning.

>>22370639
Welp just looked at a list and I'm an idiot. There are a lot of pretty good ones, and I straight up forgot about some of the ones I liked a lot.

>>22370643
It happens. At least that saves me the effort of listing out ones I've enjoyed.

>>22370436

>>22370436
I found pic related extremely tedious, but you might enjoy it.

>>22370436

>>22368455
How is the devil is dead? Cool title and seems obscure based off the number of goodreads ratings it has

>>22366397
I'm never going to find this book again even if I wander a hundred book stores.

>>22367456
portal fantasy is the best genre desu but it's rarely explored well

>>22368640
>AN ELDERLY FEMALE PROTAGONIST
does she regret all the miles of cock she's gone through and still somehow not found a "good man"?

>romance
please no anything but that, stop adding this crap into fantasy it ruins everything

>mfw THE LUGGAGE shows up

>>22370436
Depending on what specifically you like about him, there's a few avenues. His prose is singular unfortunately, but if you want a beautiful dark fantasy Lovecraft's Dreamlands come closest to conjuring up Xiccarph and Zothique to me.

But assuming you've read Robert E. Howard and Lovecraft and Karl Edward Wagner and Jack Vance, that entire crew of adventure stalwarts, I'd offer the Barsoom series if you want a rollicking planetary romance, or Viriconium if you still want some great classic dying world fiction. Some have tried to sell me on Vorrh, but I myself have not read it.

>>22370999
She's a 71 year old school teacher widow.

>>22371031
>Is terrified by one of the fundamental aspects of existence

Name one fantasy writer

>>22371120
jackie chan

Name one fantasy wronger

Just posted a sample of some fantasy I'm writing in /wg/, if anyone wants to give feedback over there I'd like it. >>22371137

Any fantasy with magic systems with an inherent sense of mystery to them, that's acknowledged by the people in the world? I want characters to study, theorize, and debate about what the nature of magic is, like a philosopher would with metaphysics.

Soft or hard magic systems, I feel like they're never really explored except in what you can DO with them.

I was emailing the publisher Hippocampus Press, and they told me I'd like RH Barlow if I like Lord Dunsany.

>>22371245
Try Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell and The Baroque Cycle. Those are the 2 that popped in my head. I haven't actually read them or know what they're about, but maybe unconsciously I knew something.

For me it's The Valley of the Worm.

>>22366229
Fastest I've ever seen a story fall off a cliff; furfags are the worst, but using it as a vehicle to completely spoil any hint of intrigue that you would get from an isekai is a new low. Should have not only stayed a party of 2 (of course limit bond to 1 until 6th or above), but probably should have got lost on their way back to Rosaline's family.

>>22371372
Talking about https://www.scribblehub.com/series/580870/

>>22371245
>I want people to waste their time arguing about meaningless bullshit when we already have systematic methods for finding truth.
But why?

>>22371382
Also don't do anything like that second shard at all, and especially don't give items that sap anything interesting out of the story e.g. the plate. You are killing all possible lulz. There is supposed to be at least comedic tension between a serious traditionalist, generational sharding family like the d’Celestin's and a wacky anomalous body-modded earthling.

>>22371245
I don't want to just say Bakker, but that system of magic is literally based on philosophy and the implications and properties of the various ways of interacting with magic are a key part of the plot. As well there's the Earthsea novels which approach magic as something that needs to be approached correctly, so it has more of an eastern philosophical style to it.

>>22369441
Alien Stones and Island of Dr Death were great though

>>22371568
Cover looks too retarded; pass from me

>>22371568
>>22371573
Also fuck gene wolfe, this faggot filled up half the spots at my middle and high school's libraries with his horrendous shit.

>>22371574
You had Gene Wolfe in your school library?

give me a single good fantasy(not sf) book written by a woman

>>22371609
Could be confusing him for literally every pocket book. But our librarians didn't give a fuck; they even had Takatsu manga.

>>22371612
Night's Master by Lee

Trying to remember an author who's called the southern version of lovecraft?

>>22371621
Fuck judging by a cover, the Japanese have already solved titles, if you don't use a short synopsis that can be shortened to a cute name as a title then you are 2 or 3 decades behind and deserve to starve.
That book's title is shit, and I won't read it. I won't even look at it, not now; not ever.

>>22370145
I'm assuming you're refering to either the Kleerup or Knut Larsson adaptions and not the movie.

>>22371643
I don't give a fuck retard. Read whatever you want

>>22371636
First author that springs to mind is Howard, but it probably isn't him

>>22371675
Then why do you post it negroid?

>>22371621
thanks, I'll give it a try but do you have something a bit more popular?

>>22371679
Earthsea is probably the biggest one. LMB's The Curse of Chalion is another popular book.

>>22371678
Was obviously a recommendation for another poster, fuckhead.

>>22371712
Don't recommend trash and you won't have this problem.

>>22366229
I tried reading Infinite Realm because some absolute faggot in this thread recommended it once. Fuck you for making me read this garbage.

>>22371382
>open to a random chapter
>'desert' when 'dessert' is meant
Every time.

>>22371806
>making me read
>I bear no responsibility for my own actions
>If I am told, I must obey, which makes me not liable for my actions

>>22371806
now read coiling dragon, desolate era and issth

>>22371900
It's a figure of speech you little queer.

>>22371904
No it's not.

>>22371905
Yes it is.

>>22371806
>Infinite Realm
Is that the one with the black guy on the cover? Remember what your libcuck teacher told you about book covers. I hope you've learned to do the opposite.

>>22371924
Not just a black guy on the cover. A giganigga with dreds, medieval armor and a samurai sword. What the fuck did you think you were about to read?

>>22370663
where do you find HQ cover images from i can never see them in google
is there a website database for these things

>>22369909
bro picked the worst book in there to get jelly over

>>22371574
stfu retard you can barely find his shit anywhere in the wild except for botns

>>22371612
cherryh
lois bujold
melanie rawn
anne mccaffrey

BG3 is everything I hate about modern fantasy writing. Everythings obsessed with sex and horny. Thats why I'm just perpetually only reading classics where sex is just for reproduction and every girl gets knocked up her first time somehow.

>>22371045
I've read Lovecraft but none of the others. I've seen Jack Vance mentioned quite a lot and been intrigued by Robert E. Howard. Big shame his prose is singular to him—Lovecraft has tons of copycats.

My favorite thing about CAS is his imagination. Even using sci-fi tropes everything is written and described in a unique way. I saw someone recommended Ambergris by Vandermeer on Goodreads and while that was fun and alright, I hope some of these other authors come a little closer.

Started Revelation Space today
What am I in for?

Figure this might be a better place to ask rather than the cesspool that is thf writing general...in your opinion, would a bounty hunter/sword for hire work as the protagonist for a series of sword and sorcery short stories? Or would that be seen as a character too driven by profit and not by doing the right thing? I mean, Paladin from Have Gun Will Travel was essentially that, but with morals and in an old west setting, but I wanted some outside opinions.

>>22372295
Bloated space opera with some weirdness and different characters across the series as protagonist.
Does that suffice?

>>22371574
>this faggot filled up half the spots at my middle and high school's libraries
No he didn't you lying retard

>>22372317
Depends entirely on your understanding of sword and sorcery. If you feel like you have to make a main character driven purely by doing the right thing go for it. You can always have him follow a code of honor in which requests he'll accept or maybe you can spin it as him treating it as a reliable source of bread and doing it to feed his family. I'd suggest you don't try to moralize/preach too much though. It always comes off as tacky in fiction.

>>22372376
Oh I wasn't meaning the character would be exceptionally moral, but look at Conan - he does the right thing most of the time, it's just usually done for his own purposes, like freeing captives to weaken his enemies, stuff like that. And I suppose I just answered my own question.

>>22372208
CAS’s poetry is actually among my favorites, which is a given considering that he was a poet before he started writing weird fiction, and one good enough to be put into a literary canon at that.

Any fantasy books where the MC engages in survivalism/homesteading ala Hatchet or My Side of the Mountain?

>>22372383
Honestly, the main thing is to make the character interesting first. Morally upstanding characters can be just as interesting as more ambiguous/dubious sorts. Like, it's not sword and sorcery, but Sherlock Holmes often had stories that were just "Sherlock is hired to do a thing he has no personal connection to", and sometimes his morality comes up in conflict, sometimes it doesn't. It can be a decent framing device for multiple largely unconnected stories.

>>22372113
Based and sunrunnerpilled

>>22368679
Thanks lol I’ll skip it for now

>>22372075
I got that one from amazon.

Dying Earth is not a real genre

>>22372711
Your vagina isn't real either.
Boom.

Leo Dan Brock is based

>>22372738
>>22372711
Holy shit, he destroyed you.

Because it's a subgenre

>scifi set decades or centuries in the future
>sex has gone out of fashion, replaced by some VR bullshit
cringe trope. I don't buy for a second that would happen

It's a genre in the same way roguelike is a genre. Dying-Earthlike.

Roguelike is definitely not a genre though

>>22372828
I mean, there are already tons of basement dwelling weirdos who want sex dolls that connect to VR.

>>22372879
That's because the average woman is so garbage these days that a sex doll is an infinitely better option.

>>22372888
... you're not helping your case here lol

>>22372879
>basement dwelling weirdos
Exactly. The idea that the human race as a whole would go this way is dumb

>>22372889
Facts are facts.

>>22366441
>>22370550
>>22369004
How is it ESL?

>>22372208
I did forget a couple of examples that are actually fairly poetic, you have the classic Lord Dunsany (Gods of Pegana) and Arthur Machen (The Great God Pan), both are dedicated to what I would call bejeweled prose

>>22369004
Then how come everything you recommend is literal ESL deleuzian verbal diarrhea?

redpill me on Foundation

>>22373087
Asimov's sincere attempt at exploring social interactions in the context of an interregnum, a new dark ages in the future. Psychohistory, the concept that you can't predict any one person but you can predict a crowd, is a very interesting field of study that Asimov pushes to the extreme in various facets throughout the series. The actual technology in Foundation is secondary and not of major import really, it exists in a narrative manner to allow the idea of an enlightened enclave of scientists to have the ability to persevere and act in some ways like Europeans giving away glass beads for supplies.

The characters aren't that great, they exist solely in service of the plot except for one glaring exception that remains a high point of the genre IMO, but you should expect that to some degree going into an Asimov work. It's a bridging work that connects the science fiction that loved scientific concepts and the futurism promised by the post-war boom with the growing social consciousness brought about by the Triple Revolution.

>>22373087
Nerdgasm material

>>22372742
Best character in the trilogy.

>>22372711
The Nightland
Awake in the Nightland
The Dying Earth
The Eyes of the Overworld
Cugel’s Saga
Rhialto the Marvellous
Songs of the Dying Earth
A Quest for Simbilis
Nifft the Lean
Gullible’s Travels (Fools Errant/Fool Me Twice)
Dark is the Sun
Zothique
The Last Continent: New tales of Zothique
The Pastel City
A Storm of Wings
In Viriconium
Viriconium Nights
An Alien Heat
The Hollow Lands
The End of all Songs
The Shattered Goddess
Book of the New Sun 1-4
Urth of the New Sun
The Book of the Long Sun 1-4
The Book of the Short Sun 1-3

Light Chaser - Peter F. Hamilton & Gareth L. Powell (2021)

Amahle is a Light Chaser, a person who flies a circuit of planets trading for the memory collars that record all the experiential data of its wearer. Due to relativity she makes it back around to each planet after around a thousand years. Regardless of the technological level of the planet everything remains stagnant as each planet has been intentionally designed to never progress beyond its current state. She's been doing this for a very long time, not that she can remember as her memories are continually overwritten as time passes to make room for new ones. Between planets she's free to do whatever she wants. Life seems good.

A mysterious individual appears across space and time in the memories contained within the collars to tell her the truth. Amahle begins to remember some of her memories that were thought to be long lost. After that, there's no going back to how things were before. There's no other choice than to do what must be done. Humanity must prevail. That which seeks to impede humanity must be eradicated no matter the cost. The very essence to be human is to continue on relentlessly and do what must be done regardless. Life is change. A lot of this can seem handwavy, especially if a reader only allows fully scientific explanations.

I haven't read any of the novels by either author, but based on what I know about them and the short fiction I've read by them, Powell probably has much more of an influence on this than Hamilton. I suspect Powell made the plot and wrote the main characters while Hamilton did what remained. I've only read a few works that have had multiple authors collaborating together, but overall I think too many problems arise from doing so. Most probably would've been better as two separate works. I have no doubt that it's an interesting experiment for the authors though.

The story is one I've seen several times in media, but it's one that I like. The main problem I have is whether to take the narrative at face value or to see it as something else. I interpreted much of what I read to be saying that this was a deeply gnostic tale. What I know about Gnosticism mostly comes through Xenogears, which has at least some thematic parallels with this. I've come across Gnosticism at various other times, but I've never made a study of it. The most amusing interpretation that comes to mind though is that it's a meta take on gatekeepers of culture.

This was somewhat enjoyable. I had considerable difficulty deciding whether to rate this 3 or 4, so I went back and forth several times, until I decided that there were a few too many things I didn't like about it. What I do like about it is probably more so because of what Powell did than Hamilton, so I'm inclined to give the former more of a try sometime. The latter already has his advocate among those I talk with.

Rating: 3.5/5

Im reading Do Android Dream of Electric Sheep and ao far its amazing.
What should I read next?

>>22373201
Sounds like you want some Xianxia/LitRPG fusions:
Unfathomable Senior
https://www.scribblehub.com/series/69701
Arrogant Young Master Template A Variation 4
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/28601

Different authors but both have the same premise of a guy transmigrating into the body of a core disciple of a sect. They go in pretty different directions with very minor similarities, I don't think you will be reminded of one from reading the other.

>>22373219
>core disciple of a sect
and leading the sect while taking on disciples.*

>>22373131
You haven't read all of those.

>>22373174
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

Are they good in a non-litRPG slop way?

>>22373131
>The Book of the Long Sun 1-4
>The Book of the Short Sun 1-3
That's the opposite of dying earth

>>22368092
Juvenile?

What do you consider to be mature?

>>22369695
As a /vt/ refugee, I'm glad that /lit/ keeps the tradition of ritualposting alive and well

>>22373593
Your mum.

>>22370999
Kek

>>22373401
yes

>>22373492
lol

This is sad.
https://moorcography.org/influenced-work-by-others/

>>22366229
The Sheep Look Up

When is this fagget releasing the audiobook? Any of you cunts in here a pay piggie of his?

Guise. I think I'm going to coom. Send halp I'm weak against slam piggies

I refuse to read on sundays

>>22373760
QRD?

What's your favorite woman character in fantasy

>>22373883
It used to be mommy Polgara but I am now a zoophile for Dun Lady's Jess

>>22373760
This is what I imagined tattersail from malazan to look like. Not those hungry skeletons I see people putting in art.

>>22371078
There's too many books with romance already.

>>22371612
Thief by Megan Whalen Turner

>>22373087
Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, but in the future. It's great, but only if you read it for what it is.

>>22373802
Missing out, man. Sundays are the best days to read.

Any good books with ugly and/or fat fuck protagonists? Kinda like goblin emperor
I'm kinda tired of the good ol' fat -> 6 pack in a volume series

>>22374269
Miles Vorkosigan

>>22373912
tattersail is thicker

>>22374314
jesus fuck. I would marry that, if I didn't know she is on a blade's edge away from going fat.
That the sad thing about thick girls, they can easily go into fat.

>>22373883
Aunt Polgara from Belgariad/Malloreon
Lady Patience from realm of the Elderlings
Sioned from Dragon Prince and Dragon Star
Selenay and Elspeth from Valdemar.
Morgana Le Fay
Moiraine from WoT
Yennefer from the Witcher
Morgaine from the Morgaine Cycle
yes i have a type.

>>22374269
My diary desu

>>22374323
My brother in Christ, that woman is clearly obese. She passed fat a while ago.

>>22374314
Damn, that girl's beautiful.
Has the property of beauty.
No wait, fuck me that.
'Eating's ugly,' my ass.
Vanity is a kind of a acoustic phenomena, the essentially physical mixed with facilitation.
This law of essentially physical is mixed with Schrodinger, who I trust to blur my cat around.
Emotions, to me, being intellectual clarity and knowledge directly connected to perception-objects, with categorically enlightened qua vanity*, are also psychologically precise imperative, to the submission of illusions. Or the declarative Ego, hence, *not real, does get up to confront those round him, casting them into Apollo's Bottomless Pit**. And so, this Jesus-God, now revealed, we cast verbatum, into the sleeping Lakes deeply, as God-Representative, in order to sustain indifference to the matter (pleasure), we neglect teleological hope, to favor the ontological empirical, ultimate, now ultimatum in now lowly, now original, now unique Eschatology, of the subatomic architecture, which, specified as human, moves freely, yielding peace. This, yet, is not so, is chaos, is fire tempestuous, and becomes the God-kill, the sin of the world, if and only if, so that it's potency realizes, we contract above it all, without it, towards our own death, to live in 'glory, eternity, worship.' Our symbolic form now realized, the snake of the planes, which arise, the earth in it's quake, ******Apep's eructations.
*does not restrain as narrow sickly cell-culture (emergent), or shriveled fruits of comprehension, does emerge from a desire to lay in bed, be done with work, requisite human sleep which has been nullified, in facilitation of the shamanic myths of Naat, and it's severe trauma displacing neurosis, developing into psychosis from a conversion, in perpetual lapse to be free of Erebus. Or simply, Naat conveys CPTSD. That our Lord and Savior is abandoned, makes us to withdraw the credit incurred to you and I, as occluded overt leaders in the fields, by making us abandoned, we incur the tariff supposed to fill like kind with wholesomeness and shelter, as healthy entities. This Erebus, is our personal eclipse of reality, an eclipse of all converging, convergent factors of the incognito indefatigable, renounced of identifying psychogenesis verbal and visual, to shed at the memory's grasp, with temporal or verbal cognates precluding tautological deductions in system Spiritual
**Currently (***. declaring: **** group think/hypnosis), now... (posture, geist) does reveal unbeknownst to the sickly or the well in now, tones that, are (dial, chords) (cf. ***** cured), conferring to others, of their examination, to prove a trial has occurred.
*** **** Declaring, given naturally, will produce the group thoughts in tandem, in punctuation here, signed (acoustic, now bonded).
**** and yet, it is this group think, that is the collective daydream, of healthy youthful days, capable of suggesting it's apparent order of aesthetic with obviating, invariant, clear tones.

>>22371245
I've been on a webnovel stint recently, but one that has religious scholars arguing magic is slum rat rising. Weird story with a lot of religious undertones. Only gets into the religion arguments a while after the well. Fantasy needs more spirituality.

>>22373087
probably the most overrated sci novel/author of all time
this nigga can't write to save his life

>>22373394
they're quite nice actually
fuck off anon

>>22373219
no it doesn't sound like that at all you chinkbrained bastard

>>22373668
idc about untalented subversive Jews

>>22373883
Sabriel

>>22374314
goddess

I can't remember the last time we had over a hundred IPs in a thread.

We are so back

>>22374657
And yet I still don't know the name of the book about the virus that came through the radio because anons only read from top 10s lists.

>>22371924
The black dude has some of the most interesting--and surprisingly well-done, something not seen often--character development in sff; too bad it takes four books to get there.
>>22372295
The space chase of book two is what I most remember fondly of the trilogy itself. Read a lot of the short stories, especially Diamond Dogs.

>>22374269
I don't know if Kip or The Prism is the protagonist but black prism by brent weeks follows a fat ass kid with self esteem issues

>>22374688
>character development is not seen often in sff
>not even sci-fi, but xianxia+litrpg the whole point of both genres is character development
>takes 4 volumes banking on the fact that you won't read it
Why are Jewish people like this? I don't like blacks and you can't make me like them; no matter how much you push their music or books/movies. Why do you; deep down in your core, want to watch white women being fucked by black men? So much so that you spend millions paying your own women to do it in the hopes that some white women will be tricked? It just weird, man.

>>22374835
The chick the black guy fucks is red on the cover though.

>>22374840
What a "coincidence" I am so shocked... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer

On a 1-10 scale how funny would an image of a segmented iceberg with all the classic scifi/fantasy novels and cult classics at the top and then random xianxia/litrpg novels in the lower sections.
It would be like
dune, lotr etc
reverend insanity, everybody loves large chests
.
issth
.
desolate era
.
etc

Here? A 3
On instagram? Probably an 8

>>22375012
3 beats anything posted in this thread for the past few years.

Do you guys think litrpg+xianxia fusion will make its way to china? I've heard most chinese authors/readers don't give a shit about novels being numerically realistic or consistent which is more the focus of litrpg, but there are plenty of gamers in China which may widen the audience? What do you think are the odds? I guess at about 1 in 10 over 5 years

>>22375124
Litrpg is just knockoff xiaxia, it can't compete fro the simple reason that there's no videogame setting as well known and developed as fantasy china.

>>22374885
That's already too depressing to be funny.

>>22374680
i know but I'm not telling coz ur a whiny faggot

LMS was 2007 right? There has to be stuff earlier than LMS that like it is recognizable as modern litRPG. Still way ahead of its time on any account.

>>22366441
Shit genre..anime is ruined by this shite and now fantasy novels are begining to get raped by this shit

>>22375261
Have you been living under a rock for the past 2 decades?

>>22374835

Love seeing it. Looks like people everywhere from all cultures are starting to openly reject Jewish degeneracy.

Their day seems to be coming, and soon

>>22375124
>litrpg+xianxia fusion
I think this will be the next big wave in English web and light novels. I think it will be large enough to move major production houses who want easy access to both china and the anglo-sphere. Might even be popular in Russia too.

But I think authors need to embrace technology to make these large projects work.
>Use some version control scheme, git if you are collaborating over the internet, make at least each chapter a commit and open source it. If you are working with a large developer they should have their own inhouse vcs monorepo so you can branch out to games and other stuff that is difficult to do over git
>xianxia novels are very long and usually full of holes to the point of absurdity, this is bad for a litrpg so...
>use a real programming language. html+js just won't cut it (of course it's fine for end user display). Bare minimum you have to be able to assert that character x has property y as well as keep track of each character/worlds data
>the end user should have a tooltip were they can query this data and make their own asserts. This should be fine grain enough to any characters current health, passives, equipment, active skills, cooldowns etc (you could even put in easter eggs like having characters level up or get in fights while completly out of the text)
>likely this would be difficult for the average writer, there three choice, suck it up and learn to code you illeterate fuck, create an engine that lets authors easily keep track of all this stuff (most likely won't be flexible enough without embedding some shitty language that nobody will use anyway), create a programming language designed for these tasks.
Really only option 1 makes sense as these are specifically the tasks programming languages are already good at.

I got sidetracked and forgot my last point, But in any case that is more than enough of a foundation for massive litrpg projects to blossom.
also Re: open source I think authors should be very open to pull requests specifically branch(fanfic) prs for spinoff/concurrent/alternative storylines, having the main branch author write a chapter or two for a popular branch or even merge back with the trunk (which the reader will be able to see) at some point will legitimize that branch and let the story expand out into a true epic.

I am a fat piece of human shit lads

>>22375332
Go to the gym and listen to books as you lift/run. The time will fly as you just mindlessly lift heavy shit and listen.

>>22375332
Drop carbs and alcohol. Listen to audiobooks and walk a lot.

>The Witcher
>butchered
>The Wheel of Time
>butchered
What's next?
Are all fantasy books doomed to fail in the current state of the industry?

>>22375450
>What's next?
Well, we know that Netflix is working on a new Chronicles of Narnia adaptation with Greta Gerwig as director.

>>22374680
Darwins Radio?

My 3.5 star review mindbroke a scribblehub author and now he wants to stop writing forever. I wasn't even mean.

>>22375542
Which book? I think thats a cycle for authors. Can't take criticism, wants to stop, finally grows a pair and writes to spite you, then forgets why they stopped.

>>22375542
You probably did them a favor if that was all it took.

>>22375542
He's probably the guy who seethes any time someone posts a review itt

>>22375450
I believe Fredrik Malmberg is trying his hardest to get Netflix to make a Conan show so we'll have that to be disappointed by eventually.

>>22375377
Sir Walkalot will be the protagonist of my brand new fantasy series

>>22375542
I had an author get incredibly mad because I gave his novel a low goodreads score once but he deserved it so I can't really relate

>>22375542
Is there anything worth reading on scribblehub?

>>22375705
Not really

Name 5 good fantasy novels written in the 21st century

>tfw finally broke down and started MTL:ing chinese novels myself because the decent mtl sites started getting real slow with their output

>>22375739
I like Jim Butcher's work.

>>22375751
This is just insanity

Has anyone here read any of the DMR Books collections?
I was considering picking some up but i'm worried they'll be just as faggy as modern western fantasy despite the subject matter and they're not available online so I can't verify it myself.

>>22375785
It's not too bad. As long as the work isn't very florid in it's descriptions it can usually do a decent job when it comes to simplified chinese and you notice straight away when it's not going to work.

>>22375792
>>It's not too bad.
>>it can usually do a decent job
>there are about three to four hundred households in tens of miles. Although there are fewer households, it is also
very lively.
>The guests, the pedestrians walking on the street, sometimes stop, sometimes talk a few words.
ESL?

>>22375845
I'd consider that a below average TL due to it being disconnected. The rest of it is average where you mostly note minor issues with dialogue that you get used to after a few MTLs. (the chinese rejection of gifts to show their humility/subservience is the big one imo since it tends to go into a passive third-person voice)
>ESL
Obviously, but that's not really why I tolerate it. The use of language doesn't matter to me half as much as the ideas, worldbuilding and storylines do so long as it achieves a baseline competence. (and yes, i've quit on several chinese novels that doesn't)
No mediocre story and execution of a story would ever be worth my while just because of prose quality. (one reason I can't stand all the Le Guin shilling as she's quite possibly the most insipid and generic fantasy author in existence next to Neil Gaiman and her prose is nothing special placed next to non-fiction)

>>22375721
65 iq max

>>22375751
It really helps to learn some Chinese when it comes to MTL.

Xianxia is insane because you can spend a hundred hours reading the book and not remember the main character's name or anything that happened aside from major plot points.

>>22375932
a thousand*

>>22375890
Well, if you're enjoying it, I suppose that's good enough. God bless.

>>22375661
Make sure to point out his meaty calves.

>>22369575
>>22369618
They also censor content they don't like.
Three Body Problem had it's translation be censored due to TOR getting upset that it referred to the heroine using terminology like 'angelic' and praising her purity.

>>22366441
Only read randidly ghosthound 218 and blue mage and the first few chapters of a few others. Blue book 1. I didn't finish ghosthound cause I was reading it on my phone and classes ended. There is much better shit on royalroad and scribblehub than these pics.
Just sort by views and find something with a good hook ignore anything that is tagged slice of life.

The problem with most webnovels is that they go on for some time, miss obvious character development (that sometimes they even setup but don't pay off), but my biggest gripe is that 200 chapters in they info dump while simultaneously explaining nothing. At least xianxiafags don't do that.

>>22375960
If you walk a lot you will not have meaty calves. You will have stick legs. If you walk an hour a day up a mountain or 20 minutes weight training with proper form slow weight training you will be much bigger.

>>22370436
Fritz Leiber (Fafhrd & The Grey Mouser) and Jack Vance (Dying Earth, Rhialto, Demon Princes) I feel come the closest to being inspired by him but they're not quite the same.

>>22375963
Proof

>>22371612
Leigh Brackett's The Sea Kings of Mars.

You idiots actually read other-published books? I thought this was /lit/ not /tumbler/

>>22376001
I read whatever I want, slut.

>>22376006
Ok boomer.

>>22375997
>Liu Cixin told the Global Times he wrote on popular online forum newsmth.net on Sunday that Tor Books made more than 1,000 edits in The Dark Forest, the second book of the trilogy, some of which touched on gender discrimination.
>This included a reference to the secretary general of the United Nations as a "beautiful woman" and four males as the most important protagonists.
>Words used to describe women, such as "purity" and "angelic," were deleted as well.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/917836.shtml

>>22376014
web novel chads stay winning. She probably gets payed less too LMAO

22376009
wow dude gottem

How many times do you refresh /sffg/ per day? For me it's around 50 times

>>22376027
A novelist who only publishes complete works (most often with much work only credited with the name of a publishing company) is like a musician who only release studio albums, no live music, no singles in that they are both obvious plants who subsist only on advertising contracts and targeting specific reviews.

>>22376037
You are out of your depth here.

>>22376030
Anytime I'm bored at work with nothing to do I refresh all of the generals I frequent. So dozens of times per day most likely.

>>22376054
87 IQ. 95 if you work for a publisher.

>>22376030
>not using auto-refresh

>>22376063
Touch grass

>>22375530
no

>>22376057
what are some other good generals anon
any board really

>>22376070
>I am too good to read a book unless 100 kikes have given it the rubber stamp GOY SLOP SEAL OF APPROVAL
Pathetic
>>22376077
>>>/g/chad/

>>22376080
Don't evade your ban, retard.

>>22376085
You have never read a genuine book. That is horribly sad.

>>22376077
>good generals
There are no such thing. There are merely generals that attempt to almost be dedicated to whatever hobby interests you

>>22376102
You are out of your depth. Quality can easily be measured. As someone answering the question it is your job to provide a metric and return the highest rated to the asker. You have failed your job.

>>22376037
"ok boomer"
haha got you!!!

>>22376120
Boomers invented modern publishing it makes no practical sense in the technological age.

Any good blackmail/nonconsent erotica books with beastkin or monster girls?
There's a lot of this stuff on storiesonline.net but it's mostly with humans

>>22376126
What does that even mean?

>>22376148
As per usual, he doesn't like his posts dismissed with single buzzwords but of course it's okay for him to do it to others.

>>22376131
I think Everybody loves large chests, but that isn't really non consensual. Obviously this is more popular in games and vns (monmusu quest etc) though usually not the way I assume you want it.

>>22376150
You have no argument to dismiss with a single buzzword.

This thread's had lots of gay little arguments lately

>>22376166
Sad you can't shill LOTR to every newfag like it's somehow relevant to anything good coming out now? Get dead trees off /lit/. NOW!

>>22376161
ok boomer rofl
>>22376166
generals always suck and newfags gotta argue nonstop everywhere they go

>>22376175
Just don't shill published books here. It's not hard.

>>22376187
>just don't do thing you weren't doing
ok newfag janitor wannabe

>>22376190
Did "The Dark Forest" spontaneously generate in my mind, or did anon not post about it?
You don't need to advertise here, publishing companies pay people to do that elsewhere; unless...