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What's the best argument against positivism?

>> No.22340895

>>22340886
Leo Strauss's.

>> No.22340910

>>22340895
which is? I don't read jews.

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>>22340886

>> No.22340984

>>22340952
>another jew
stop it

>> No.22341310

>>22340984
He was Italian

>> No.22342281

>>22340886
>against positivism
negativism

>> No.22343310
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>Once upon a time, I, Zhuangzi, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was Zhuangzi. Soon I awakened, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man. Between a man and a butterfly there is necessarily a distinction. The transition is called the transformation of material things.

>> No.22343354

>>22340886
Some things in this universe don’t make sense and we would be better off not understanding them

Absurdism I guess.

>> No.22343356

>>22341310
Jews with better food.

>> No.22343834

>>22340886
Russell isn't a positivist he even argued against them by the way.
>best argument against positivism
The verification principle is neither analytic nor synthetic, it's as simple as that. But people like Carnap were better about handling the issue, he didn't rely much on that principle (it was more Schlick's pet). Carnap was more comfortable using non-theoretical (pragmatic) justification for theory choice as the basis for deciding between theories, and that choicemaking is neither based on analytic or synthetic truth itself, showing Carnap wasn't tied down to that distinction alone. It's a lot harder to refute Carnap proper because he's basically a Diltheyan of sorts just like Heidegger, imagine Kantianism but now make it so the transcendental stuff is no longer universal and necessary but conventionally decided, provisional and historically revisable over time, but still cutting up reality via our imposition of the schemas of thought.

>> No.22343842

Itself

>> No.22343853

>>22343834
>imagine Kantianism but now make it so the transcendental stuff is no longer universal and necessary but conventionally decided, provisional and historically revisable over time, but still cutting up reality via our imposition of the schemas of thought
Am I wrong to think this resembles Hume.