/lit/ - Literature

Best plot twist in /sffg/?

Second best plot twist in /sffg/?

>>22338542
That's a cool image. I hate Solomon Kane.

>>22338687
>>>/lgbt/

>>22338693
Hey man, I love Conan, but Howard's writing is complete ass in Solomon Kane. There's nothing that compares to pic-related in Solomon Kane's stories.

>>22338706
Solomon Kane is based.

Imagine...

Just wondering.

Why is there barely any sci-fi/fantasy outside of America? I visited Italy on a study abroad trip some time ago and in every single bookstore the entire sci-fi/fantasy section was just translated English books. Is this just an Italy thing or do other countries have their own developed genre authors? Why does this happen?

>>22338542
The Gurkha and the Lord of Tuesday, #1 - Saad Z. Hossain (2019)

This satirical science fiction fantasy novella is hilarious. It's very much my preferred sort of humor, so take that as you will. I'm certain there are all sort of flaws to be criticized, especially by those who take it overly seriously, but I had too much fun reading this to be concerned about anything other than my own enjoyment. I was reminded of several different works across various media. It's also a subversion of sword and sorcery, in a loving and mocking way.

At some unclear point within possibly the next few centuries humanity in its hubris has destroyed nearly all the world and themselves through its reckless disregard for consequences. Life outside the few remaining functioning cities is hellish and death is a promise. Kathmandu is a city run by Karma, an AI beyond the understanding of other AI, which owns and judges everything and assigns value to it as according to its algorithms. No one owns anything, no one has money, and no one has to do anything. All basic needs are provided for at no cost for Zeros, those who don't have any Karma points. Those who have points are able to spend them to have Karma do as they request. Aside from the initial distribution, the points are earned by one's actions and through trade. Neither ethics nor morality have any place in the market. All that matters is value as determined by Karma.

Melek Ahmar is a Djinn, a being that is able to manipulate reality, who has awoken from his millennia-long imprisonment. Bhan Gurung, a gurkha who has mastered knives, seeks revenge against one of the top ranked citizens of Kathmandu. If the entire city is destroyed in the process, it matters not at all. He is a recidivist who has forsaken all of Karma's blessings and as such is not under her surveillance. The djinn, not knowing what has become of the world, follows Gurung to Kathamandu. His goal is to PARTY HARD, and maybe, if there's time, to become the ruler of everything and have everyone know how great he is, once again. Though, really, only the former matters. Hamilcar Pande serves Karma in whatever seems the right way, because he's her sheriff, and the failsafe, or so he likes to think. Colonel Kanelia Shakia is his lover and a deadly warrior. She lives an entirely regimented life, which includes a requisite one day per week of wild and inventive sex, none of which is included. There's also a female djinn drug dealer who loves retro K-pop. All of the characters were great and this story is very much about the characters.

I have only two disappointments. There's only one more book in this series currently and there probably won't ever be an adaptation. It's been a long time since I felt so strongly that something needs an animated adaptation like this does. I'll definitely have to try reading what else he's written. Hossain may possibly end up being my favorite SFF comedy writer. The potential is there anyway.

Rating: 5/5

>>22338946
my dad was a General in the Gorkha Rifles I think he will enjoy this book, thx reviewanon

>>22338926
last country with any soul left, even if most of the shit that gets published nowadays is garbage

>>22338706
You're 100% right desu

>>22338983
You're welcome. Hopefully you'll find at least one for you to enjoy as well from those that I post.

Got to the charge of the shrial knights. Seeing the Cishaurim getting fucked was pure kino, though I think the destruction of the Scylvendi from the previous book was a better example of the power of sorcery. Do the battle scenes get better after this?

>>22339012
Quite the opposite. SFFG is soulless consumerism. And no country personifies soulless consumerism than The States

>>22339065
Yes.
Best battles are in Book VI. The fight for Dagliash is worth the slog it takes to get through IV and V.

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

Anyone know any books that are non-stop action/suspense? Maybe something like The Raid/ Dredd?

The only thing I've tried reading recently that sort of scratched that itch was Matthew Stover's Heroes Die.

Boy, going through the Expanse is pure torture. It's as meandering and navel gazing and self-indulgent and padded out as the worst of GRRM and Robert Jordan. And it's that way from book 1. People told me quality drops off at book 4 or book 6 but it's all equally shit and . Except instead of lovingly describing food like GRRM and embroidery like Jordan, the expanse guys are in love with describing polyamorous interracial gay relationships.

Good thing I'm listening to the audiobooks and not actually reading this shit

12 Miles Below

https://www.amazon.com/12-Miles-Below-Progression-Fantasy-ebook/dp/B0BWKDF1C7

Icy death above. Monster-filled dungeons below. He must fight or freeze.

Extreme sub-zero temperatures suffocate the surface. Frozen structures of bygone eras span across massive ice-wastes. And the survivors closely guard any technology rediscovered within them.

The only escape from the deadly climate is beneath the surface, but that doesn't mean it's safe...

Monstrous machines lurk in the depths. Unhinged demigods war against them, dying over and over, treating it all like a game. The depths themselves shift over time, more contraption than rock.

When an expedition into the far uncharted north goes terribly wrong, Keith Winterscar and his father get trapped together in a desperate fight for survival. Stumbling upon an ancient war of titanic scale, the two will need to set their differences aside while they struggle against gods, legends, and the secrets of the realm that lies below.

Looking for science-fantasy similar to Dune?

>>22339303
The cover for Azarinth Healer looks cool, where would you rank that one in a list of all the books there?

>>22339466
>The Raid
Kino
>The Raid 2
So kino I think I'm gonna cum, the karambit fight was so fucking good.

>>22339867
Film
>film
Epic contribution, crossposting newfag.

>>22339466
>>/lit/thread/22084187#p22088355

>>22339879
>newfag.
Lol, you wish.

>>22339861
>female protagonist
Just read DCC and ignore him being cucked

I've finished Against All Gods. An anon told me he avoided it because he hates the way the author writes, and I can see why. His style was obnoxious at times but the story is interesting to me so I'll download the sequel and keep reading. 3.5/5

>"Conan"? Never heard of 'im...

Do americans really

>>22339861
None of them are any good except for DCC and maybe Iron Prince

>>22339887
Wow, thanks so much for recommending a book which isn't even out yet you absolute fuckin moron

Several threads back I explained that I now hopefully have every Gene Wolf book. Yes, I have all of his normal books in hardcover, this includes The Wolfe Archipelago, The Castle of the Otter, and all his short fiction (excluding his Cheapstreet pamphlets because those are just short stories you can find within other story collections.) But if by the end of this dump, you have noticed I may be missing one or two I’m unaware of, please let inform me.
I am here mainly to bring to attention his rarest, and I believe, some of his most interesting books released in limited supply. These are Plan[e]t Engineering, which contains interviews, short stories, and has the only official map of Nessus from BoTNS. His early 2000’s novella Memorare. The even smaller little novella in the middle is titled The Hero as Werewolf. And the final two are probably the most important that I want to expand upon more. These being Young Wolfe, and Letters Home.

>>22340035
Young Wolfe is obviously a collection of his early short fiction. It was originally published in his late 20s. Most of it is alright, nothing special, but it’s beautiful to see where he began and where he went, knowing that he will transform into a master storyteller one day. I won't post anything from within it because you can easily find the entirety of the short book online. But I wanted to just post a few things that came with it outside the book that you can’t find. This pamphlet here I’ll only show the beginning as you’ll see it contains just quotes from his stories.

>>22340024
>cuck prince
>good

>>22340035
That's pretty cool anon
Post the map

>>22340048

>>22340100

>>22340024
Iron Prince is not good. I can't even really call it bad, because it's a book I read and felt almost nothing about. It's effectively a magic academy book except it's just a normal school year and nothing really exciting happens.

>>22340155
>iron prince
is it some lgbt shit? Sounds like it, the cover is also somewhat gay

>>22340092
>>22340035

>>22340167
Uh, protagonist is straight, his best friend is a bi woman (like they awkwardly call attention to this fact early on as one of the first things we learn about her) but she gets together with a guy anyway. Beyond that, nothing much.

>>22340167
Not necessarily but (one of) the author(s) is a raging "you're a bigot/nazi/etc if you don't support lbgt"fag. The book itself is as if the author watched five shounen anime and stripped every trope imaginable into a book.

>>22339991
What's wrong with loving subplot?

Is Inri Sejenus damned?

>>22340185
>>22340106
The last book Letters Home is extremely personal, which shouldn’t have surprised me but it still did. It contains hundreds of pages of letters he sent back to his family while he was stationed in the Korean War. So often we are not privy to the lives of authors, they seem so distant from their works we enjoy, especially Wolfe, who I’m sure some of you know won the award for “writer most unlike his characters” by his colleagues at sff conventions or something to that effect. Yet if Severian’s main arc in BoTNS is a young man on a journey to war, as Wolfe has attested to before, then I believe this book might have more insight into author/MC connection than his colleagues may have realized.
I will only post the first letter home because this book is a lot larger than I anticipated. I haven’t looked through most of it yet but I will skim through it in the coming days and if I find any letters that stand out I will try to post them.

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>>22340250
A pamphlet of pictures that came with my copy of Letter’s Home. Going through these family photos feels to me a bit invasive and strange, but also feels incredibly kind of Wolfe that he felt like sharing this with the world.

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>>22339466
Able Team #8: Army of Devils.
You don't need to read the previous Able Teams to know what's happening either.

>>22339826
Gemini of the Sleeping Gods

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>>22339669
I'm going to pirate you book 1,000,000 times. You'll be bankrupt by copy #1,000.

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>>22340643
That's all folks. Take care. Hope someone out there enjoyed. Make sff general great again.

>>22338946
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>>22338542
City of Truth - James Morrow (1991)

Jack Sperry lives in Veritas, the City of Truth. All its citizens are subjected to brainburn, which conditions them to feel excruciating pain if they say anything less than the complete truth. Jack works as a deconstructer, which means he destroys any and all lying art. He incinerates fiction, paintings, and films, demolishes statues, destroys counterfeits, and otherwise eliminates anything straying from the empirical. Truth is all the beauty ones needs.

I've read eight works of short fiction by James Morrow previously and haven't particularly liked any of them. I thought this this Nebula winning satirical novella might be better based on its premise, and it definitely was, for the duration that it was satirical. That's to say that it was comedy, a rather funny one for me, but that didn't last and I didn't take the tone shift well. It was quite the ride to go through three distinct moods in a novella. Narratively the experience of the protagonist and the reader are inverted. As the protagonist falls away from their idea of truth, the reader goes from mocking satire to sincere reality. For me it was like a friend telling you a funny story that has everyone laughing that segues into a trauma dump. To which my reaction was, "What? No. Stop." I wouldn't quite call it a bait and switch, but I'd really would've preferred that it stuck to the satire. Unfortunately, what comes after is probably the heart of the story.

If the humor doesn't work for you, it did for me, and what comes after doesn't, I can't say that you should read this. Some examples are, Jack, who is married, saying to a woman he just met: "I'd like to have sex with you", after noticing how voluptuous she is, or as is later said, zaftig. After a bit she replies with, "I feel only a mild, easily controlled desire to copulate with you." As soon as he meets with his wife they discuss how wants to have sex with this new woman. I found the deadpan dialogue to be amusing. The humor carries over into the exposition as well, with brutality squad members carrying Remington Metapenises, politicians openly proclaiming their corruption, businesses being entirely transparent, and men proclaiming how much they enjoy masturbating to beatoff magazine and make no pretension to reading its articles. The government even readily admits that there's no rational reason for their troops to be where they are and continually dying, but they're going to have them keep doing it anyway.

I can appreciate it for its allegory, but that doesn't mean that I have to enjoy it. I have no doubt that its message of, as interpreted by me: You can mock how others are living all that you want, but eventually you have to face yourself and take responsibility for your own life. You can't rely upon the assurances of certainty or the comforts of delusion. Regardless of whether I agree with it in theory, let alone practice it, it's not what I want to read.

Rating: 3/5

>>22338926
Stores sell whatever sells best. American culture sells extremely well. That doesn't mean that that they don't exist though. Based on how many non-English European language sff books that are translated into English, such as The Witcher, there ought to be a considerable amount. Maybe there's a vibrant self-publishing community as well.

>>22340855
There isn't. Witcher is a one off. It's not even that great.
The issue with non English speaking countries is that there is no freedom there, no one really has or understands the American notion of Freedom with exception of Anglos and Anglo culture in Aus/NZ. And where there is no Freedom there is also no creative freedom and crrarive thinking. The rest of Europeans literally don't get it. The rest of the world don't get it. Once in a while there is a foreign author who sort of gets it (just barely) and then you get works like Witcher.

>>22340578

Bro just read on Royal Road lol

i recommend this if you can read french. atmospheric dark fantasy about a cursed city. start is very strong, loses some steam in the second half but the ending is pretty cool.

i've personally never played them but the author mentions dark souls as an influence which might give you a better idea of the tone.

>>22340972
>atmospheric dark fantasy about a cursed city.
So it's about modern day Paris.

>>22340927
There was a lot of Soviet SF specifically because of the lack of freedom.

>>22340978
nice

>>22340978
the curse of both paris and roche-étoile (the city in the book) is in fact immigration.

>>22340972
>the author mentions dark souls as an influence which might give you a better idea of the tone.
or you should have just mentioned that author is a roastie.
influenced by dark souls lol more french roastie influeced by north african bbc.
I am not going to read shit like that.

My fellow coomer brothers, I need your best haremlit with monster girls like lamias and arachne/spider women pls help thanks

>>22341048
Kys

>>22340824
How many of these novellas are you reading per day

>>22341048
I dunno, Cebelius seems to be the only one doing that. He's the only one going into actually somewhat monstrous girls instead of, like, foxgirls and catgirls.

>>22341060
Refer to
>>22329233
and subsequent posts

>>22341030
>i base my reading decisions on what color cock i imagine going into the author's body
how often do you think about black cocks, anon? be honest.

>>22341088
More specifically, I was reading about one per day in July. I haven't read any this month, though I probably will today. I've been mostly playing a game that I started recently.

>>22341094
>base my reading decisions on what color cock i imagine going into the author's body
You don't? When you read, you channel the text through your consciousness. In a sense, you MUST self insert to perceive any meaning - on a surface level, into the narrator or characters voicing their experience, but on a fundamental level, into the state of mind of the author as he was writing the text. So if the author has taken black cock, by reading his work you have also taken black cock, albeit indirectly.

It is for this reason that I do not read anything written by women.

>>22341111
under the weight of your mighty quads i can only kneel and vow to never question you again

>>22341111
It must be a hassle to verify that the author hasn't ever done anything you dislike before reading then. Then again, your opposite side does the same as well by calling it problematic instead. Both sides do the same thing for different reasons.

>>22341111
Based

>>22341094
Cuck

>>22341126
Not that hard, if author is woman then she has definitely done it, if it's some fag, hes done, same with liberals.

>>22341165
Okay, but what about stuff published many decades, if not centuries ago? How can you assure yourself that you aren't polluting yourself? What about 4chan posts or anything else read? You can't avoid it. The best choice is to simply stop any and all interaction with anything textual.

>>22339466
Acts of Caine tries to do this, you have to get past the framing device intro first tho

>>22341170
Same rules apply. Avoid women and fag literature. Anyone else is sort of a grey zone. Just don't take it at face value I guess? If it feels pozzed even remotely then the author was likely pozzed too.

>>22341170
Why are you engaging with someone who's just making excuses to never have to actually read anything
they have nothing to offer to the thread

>>22341219
>read anything
Do you read anything? Do you have no filters of any kind? Do you read (pozzed) hugos/nebulas/nyt bestsellers, you read fag and roastie lit? Anyone throws any random shit at you and you just gobble it up?

>>22341088
Neat

What should I read next, bros: A Christian dark fantasy novel or a secular edgy dark fantasy novel?

i haven't read in like 2 months. i honestly miss it but i do other things instead so idk if i want to read things again

so whats the hardest scifi ever

Do any of you faggets know where I can get the book two audiobook for this series from?
It used to be on Wuxiaworld, and they had up to book 4 audio, but all audiobooks disappeared from the site.

>>22341435
The Martian (lmao)

>>22341395
Feminist fantasy where the girl mc gets gangraped/gangbanged and then marries her chud friend

>>22341637
Sounds like your average female romance book

>>22341182
lol read the post. i've already read matthew stover

>>22341395
Titles?

>>22341706
Veil of the Dragon
Jaga's Bones

>>22340212
No, he was beamed up to the mother ship near to the nail of heaven during his acension

>>22341451
>Wo Chi Xi Hong Shi
come on man, what kind of name is that

>>22341971
It's I Eat Tomatoes if you translate it, a lot of chinese webnovel guys have penames like that.
They're in a weird situation where they find the pseudonym embarrassing but won't/aren't allowed to use the author's real name

>>22342001
Do you know where I can get books 2 to 4 in audio? How can they just remove it from their site? I thought chinks don't do copyright shit?

>>22338706
>>22338739
FACT: Anything by Robert E Howard is worth reading.

I will restate myself.

Written fiction is dire. How come there's no fiction equivalent of Crank, Mad Max Fury Road, The Raid? when u go searching for it you really have to dig and what comes up? fucking derivative shit. in theory, written fiction should be the top tier of imaginative shit since it allows for unlimited creative expression but everyone seems to be working within the confines of what came before. honestly, you people will say I haven't read enough but then will refuse to give examples of something you consider worth reading. it's always the same fucking shit. honestly, going by the communities based around fiction you'd think there were only 5 books worth reading out of it all.

no i dont want to read robert e howard power fantasy shit. no i dont want to read fantasy with EPIC WORLDBUILDING that always somehow manages to feel the same. no id ont want to read tom clancy GLOBE TROTTING techno thrillers filled with factoids about the CIA or whatever the FUCK. I tried 1930s pulps, and so far they're just as fucking rote as the movie serials. im not reading DETECTIVE SHIT FUCK OFF. science fiction can be alright but eh. FUCKING ZOMBIES FUCKING POST APOCALYPTIC MILITARY SCIENCE FICTION FUCK. show me something new please/

i honestly would say that most of the shit you all post about is on the same level as those erotica books about dark elves. steven erikson with his fetishistic descriptions of fat women really gives me that impression. the only thing that differentiates it is that the word vomit is by someone who's more articulate. but yeah, Beverly K says 5 stars!

>>22342366
Oh nice, you've written out a new ritualpost copypasta for someone, maybe even you, to post every thread.

https://youtu.be/exDVJXYEFSM?si=JMDrqwzf93BKacRw
How can one person so utterly btfo Bakkerfags?

>>22342395
Women are not people

>>22342395
I could tell bakker was shit by reading any of his non-fantasy stuff. reddit cynicism

>I see a cool Synopsis
>female protagonist AND yuri
Goddammit

>>22339065
Yes, the end of the second book is absolute peak kino, as is the end of the third and the end of the seventh. End of the seventh has maximum super saiyan sorcery going on, book three has some too. 8 sorcerers of rank = one gnostic sorcerer but one non-man sorcerer= 10 gnostics. And yet 100 non-man sorcerer's can't match one who has mastered metagnosis with 6 or 7 inutreral meanings bracing a single cant.

Gory damn my goodman, this Light Bringer is prime! For my money, I still take the Reaper over the Minotaur. Hail Reaper!

>>22342474
>>I see a cool Synopsis
Read it then.

>>22342526
with female characters in it? No way fag

>>22342527
>liking hot females is gay now
back to discord, tranny

>>22342494
Tarot's obviously just made up bullshit but it's always funny just how bad attempts to do fandom versions of it always are

>>22342474
it was some lightnovel shit like The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady wasn't it?

>>22342395
>has to immediately have explained to her how magic works in the story instead of simply accepting it works because it's a fucking fantasy
This isn't even a woman; so many retards are like this. They need EVERYTHING explained to them right at the beginning; especially magic because they need it to be a system that sucks all the supernaturalness out of it (the irony being Prince of Nothing has multiple magic systems but she's too impatient to discover that on her own). They simply can't accept the world-building being parsed out to them through the story itself as it goes along.

>>22338542
How did he do it? Robert E Howard could write about anything and make it entertaining. Even his lesser known works, like his detective and pirate stories are great

>>22342562
I like that one. It's cute.

>>22341030
Please go outside and talk to real people. You are not a healthy person.

>>22342892
thank you for the input normalchad on 4chan

Where are all the dullahans and Sleepy Hollow-esque stories?

>>22343008
Americans don't know their own fairy tales. We think ichabod crane is some Irish folklore or some shit

>>22343033
Yeah, it's quite sad. We've got so many great ones, too. Outside of Washington Irving, Edgar Allan Poe and Nathaniel Hawthorne are the only writers I've found that really scratch that itch. Really makes me wonder why there's not more of that kind of stuff out there, but maybe I'm just ignorant.

>>22339466
Read progression/litrpgs or xianxia. That's the point of those stories.
Renegade Immortal takes a bit to get started, but after that it doesn't really let up.
For western stuff Primal Hunter again has a bit of a slow start at times, but keeps a good pace throughout. Worm also has very good pacing.

>>22340473
QRD?

>>22343295
>author is called "hyperghast" so self-published spergery written by a cringelord who can't be bothered thinking of a pseudonym that doesn't sound like a console gamer tag
>the title on amazon has "The Books of Bask Book 1" written after it
>there's only been one book released so far
>it came out in 2021

What are some good science-fantasy novels with weird post-nuke settings?

do the sequels get any better?
halfway through the first book and it's okay, but feels like a bad and boring copy of full metal alchemist

>>22342634
>Prince of Nothing has multiple magic systems
But it doesn't. There is technology (not magic), there is divine intervention (not magic because it rewrites the world in a way it was always going to be rewritten, a constant outside of time and flawless) and there is sorcery (world being rewritten partially and incompletely by non-divine souls, which leaves obvious traces).

Only the last is magic

>decide to read a Polish sci-fi novel
>chapter 2, not more than 10 minutes of in, the character puts on a track suit

>>22343344
>chapter 2, realise you're reading shakespear

Has anyone here read (almost) all published books about Gaunt Ghosts? What is the last good book there? I don't want to read the whole series, and I don't belive in the endless series with constant good quality.

>>22343360
ask in /tg/ we're autistic but not that autistic

>>22343324
It is a Sandersonade, it will follow the patterns and story beats of the Master from Nebraska who tutored its author, plot action as heavily constrained as its magic system, all its twists and growths based on it, the political background bound by it. I don't remember it too well but if you're not really grooving with the first book the others will move faster but be largely the same.

>>22343452
Sanderson being a mormon from Nebraska instead of the expected Utah actually explains quite a lot about him

>>22343468
Sociologically there's a lot of interesting things about tight-knit groups when they settle somewhere they're not tight-knit.

Just recommend me something with a dom mommy gf vibe.

>>22339826

Not quite as political but Creatures of Light and Darkness or Lord of Light might sate your thirst?

>>22339826
>>22343553
If you're recommending Zelazny then Amber's as political and has lots of sword fights

>>22343585
Amber is one of the worst fantasy series I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Truly awful. it's put me off reading anything else by that spastic Zelazny, even Lord of Light which I have heard countless times is very good.

>>22343324
honestly speaking no
it's pretty bad

>>22343648
This, it didn't even define its magic system and also it had guns in it. No one should recommend that """fantasy"""

>>22343735
The worst part was how all the main characters would speak like 1970s New Yorkers and stand around in Amber smoking cigarettes they brought from the real world.

>>22343804
>corrupt nobles smoking Parliaments and jamming on drum sets and occasionally duping a bunch of rat people from who knows where to fighting a holy war for them
What's not to love

>>22343510
Paladin of Souls (from her pov)

>>22343735
Good bait, I almost fell for it 8/10

>>22343008
>>22343033

Don DeBrandt's Steeldriver and Timberjak

>>22343735
it's magic, the whole fucking point of magic is that it isn't scientific and systemic

>>22343339
Yeah, deities from another dimension altering causality happens all the time irl. Nothing supernatural about it.

>>22343316
Jerusalem Man. The best trilogy. Gemmell is king

Is there a genuinely good reviewer in these threads? The retard raving on about Dungeon Crawler cuck was annoying as shit.

>>22344135
>cuck
if you use this phrase nothing will satisfy you

>>22344138
It is genuine cuckoldry. The man does not stop seething about his slut ex. It is antiwhite cuckshit and that retard rated it 9/10? Who would trust him?

>>22344146
Carl almost never thinks about his ex and when he does he certainly isn't seething. He dumped her as soon as he realized she was cheating on him and he got over her lightning fast. That isn't "genuine cuckoldry." Carl thinks less about his ex than you do about the reviewfag.

>>22344146
you should go back to anime and manga where only "feel good" stories are told, I am personally not bothered by this shit but I hate faggots who spam that phrase every time some drama happens

>>22344135
None of the guys offering unsolicted reviews are, because they're too stupid to understand the difference between 4channel and goodreads. If you want a decent review you'd have to ask opinions on specific books and maybe you'll get a review from an anon who's not just attention whoring.

>>22344135
me but by being anonymous it's impossible to use my reviews and/or taste as a barometer for whether you will like something lol

>>22344138
Don't engage with it. This faggot performs this same tired routine like every 10 threads.

Do you guys really hate books with female protagonists or is it just a meme?

>>22344150
>Carl almost never thinks about his ex
Why do you lie?
>>22344163
>drama is only drama if it's cuckshit
lmfao do westoids really

>>22344203
Real. Because virgin man children in their 30s need to self insert in fantasy world's to escape their everyday mundane lives

>>22344196
so you've got someone else calling out your cuckshit for what it is and you've mindbroken yourself into thinking it's only one person?

>>22344217
>>Carl almost never thinks about his ex
>Why do you lie?
When does he actually think about her? Near the start, when he's just getting over breaking up with her. Whenever Donut specifically brings her up. And that's basically it.

>>22344225
And now the cuck starts bargaining and trying to move the goalposts.

>>22344225
It's cuckshit because that guy is a newfag and anything he doesn't like is cuckoldry.

>>22344229
>anything he doesn't like
I don't like cuckshit, it's that simple. Why do you try to defend it?

>>22344218
There's absolutely nothing wrong with reading fantasy to self insert.

>>22344218
What's your number?

>>22344228
>>Carl almost never thinks about his ex
>>Carl almost never thinks about his ex
Where were the goalposts moved?

>>22342934
The masterpiece that filtered westoids.

>>22344243
there is because once the story deviates from certain narratives self-insertfags start to get personally insulted, chimp out and lash out on everybody

>>22344253
You just admitted you were lying about one part. Every fucking page is about him getting cucked.

aw it's a samefag

>>22344203
It's not enough to make me hate a book on its own but it's overdone. If you could tell the same story with a male then you should use a male.

>>22341395
Trick answer: The Book of the New Sun

>>22344277
Why do you come into the thread to just blatantly make shit up about books and then screech when people call you out? What do you get out of it?

>>22344329
Indeed, why do you do that? People call you out for promoting cuckshit and you start seething.

>exactly one minute apart

>>22344337
>cannot tell time
typical samefag accuser

>>22338542
Acadie - Dave Hutchinson (2017)

500 years ago a rogue scientist did some extreme genetic engineering and escaped with a space habitation filled with settlers and the Earth governments didn't like that, so they've been hunting them down ever since. All they want is to live free from Earth governments who don't understand their choices to be whomever they want themselves to be, so they are on the move rather often, living a relatively meager existence. They believe that's a cost worth paying for them to be free. Anyone who wants to leave is allowed to do so.

Regardless of what's said about this novella, it all comes down to one undeniable truth - the entirety of the story is for a gimmick. The gimmick is one that I enjoy, and even though I've read several times before, I didn't like it any less. It was enough to raise this from being rounded up from 2.5, to barely being a 3. It's an adequate read despite intentionally being what it is. Aside from the gimmick, there's nothing that I found notable about it. Everything else about it barely suffices.

I admit I took it at face value until the gimmick came into play. That was a problem because it was trying to tell me that it was a gimmick but instead I took it seriously and as a result I enjoyed it less than I otherwise would've if I had been in on it. For me that's a problem with the narrative structure. Sometimes retroactive enjoyment is possible, but that wasn't the case for this. Maybe that's only because I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing it for what it was. Talking about the specifics would be too much of a spoiler.

Depending on your preferences for reading, a gimmick may not be substantial enough, especially if you don't like the gimmick. This is a short novella, a bit more than a novelette based on the word count I've seen, which is the appropriate length. If it were shorter, the gimmick may not have mattered, and if it were longer its structure wouldn't have worked. I often complain about length, so I appreciate when it's done properly.

I've almost only written about how it's a gimmick without saying what it is, which may not be that helpful for whether you want to read this, both in terms of saying too much and not enough. The following is a major spoiler for what kind of gimmick it is, without saying specifically what it is: "Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?"

That I see this entirely as a gimmick both helps and hinders Hutchinson from whether I'd read more from him. I like the gimmick, but if that's what he mostly does, I don't know that I'd want to read a novel based around a mildly amusing one. I'd probably rather read a similar sort of author who I believe does better with execution. I may give him a try eventually again, or not, it really depends on whether a relevant whim comes up again or not.

Rating: 3/5

>>22339466
Brigador novelisation

Loved the imagery when Severian retrieves Terminus Est out from the water and he pulls Dorcas out along with it something about it feels very Arthurian like it was inspired by the Lady of the Lake scene

>>22338642

Balddanders being the mastermind of the two when we all thought it was Doctor Talso was a very nice and clever bait and switch

>>22339466

>>22342366
Sisyphean by Torishima Dempow seemed like it was at least trying to do something new

>>22344125
Based. Jerusalem Man has become my favorite Gemmell series.

>>22343312
>YOU MUST ONLY READ JEW-APPROVED OLDPUB SLOP, GOYIM!

>tfw when any random post can have full spoilers for an entire series without any forewarning or marking

Ash'aman, kill

>>22344203
I like female protags just fine so long as they're sexy, nice to Men, and are written by Male authors 30+ years ago.

>>22344364
oh hey, he wrote the Halo: Combat Evolved novelisation

>>22344299
You shouldn't be able to, because men and women are unique existences and you can, and should, tailor a story to their gender's strengths and weaknesses, not have some creepy unisex blob.

>>22344466
too bad almost all MC women are tailored as unisex blob

>>22344254
based

>>22342366
>crank: lol what if dude had to have sex to live LOL
>mad max fury road: apocalypse but with CARS
>the raid: swats swatting a building with KARATE
None of the movies you mentioned are original in the slightest. You're just a midwit fascinated by technicolor live action flicks.

>>22342366
High concept books certainly exist, but you probably wouldn't be satisfied.

>>22344649
Crank was pretty original. Is there another
movie where main character needs constant stimulation to keep his heart going?

>>22344667
Crank 2

>>22344667
I guess it is a stupid fucking idea that also happens to be original, you're right.

>>22344667
A stupid premise doesn't make something original. It's the same sort of action scenes. The same four act structure. The same hero's journey character growth formula used by every single movie.

>>22344705
Yeah, I guess he should have been subversive instead, he should have subverted the expectations and turned out to be a tranny fucked by a n*gger in the end. That's true originality.

>>22344752
What an overly emotional response. Don't be hysterical.

>>22344801
>What an overly emotional response.
There was zero emotion in that post. Are you a woman by any chance?

>>22344829
Yes.

>>22344349
>>22340824
your """reviews""" are SHIT
FUCK OFF

>>22344838
This is a roastie free website. You don't belong here, gtfo

>>22344861
Shut up and kiss me.

>>22344865
kys

>>22344881
Kiss myself?

>>22344829
You may have alexithymia if you weren't able to recognize your anger, disgust, contempt, disappointment, and several other emotions.

>>22344923
I may have felt those years when I visited /lit/ and /sffg/ for the first time. Nowadays most of my comments regarding roasties, minorities and fags are merely automatic responses with no emotion or feelings behind them.

>>22344989
>Nowadays most of my comments regarding roasties, minorities and fags are merely automatic responses with no emotion or feelings behind them.

What's a good way I can make a UFO short story or novella literary and not have it be genre shit like King or Dean Koontz? I was thinking of writing something about a guy who winds up going to a UFO abduction support group as he's struggling with adjusting to life after being taking

>>22344146
Notice how even the defenders couldn't try to deny it's antiwhite.

>>22345163
Why did you mean by antiwhite? It is pro black (or pro asian)?

>>22345172
It's antiwhite. It doesn't need to be pro anything else.

Thoughts on Sprague's Conan stories?

Thoughts on Sprague's Conan stories?

When does Anasurimbor come back in the first Bakker book?

>>22343324
I remember losing all interest in the series after finishing the first book, cause I felt like it had tipped its hand too early regarding the mysteries and the setting and now it's just a slow predictable march to the conclusion of the plot, and none of the characters were that endearing to me.

>>22340966
Audio book bay or bust.

>>22344649
what frustrates me is how languid written fiction is. these movies are just examples of relentless thrillers. why is it so difficult to find the equivalent in written fiction? I suppose because the target audience and the temperament of writers is the indulgent kind, they'll put down every little aside and fancy into wank prose while on their laptop in their favourite coffee shop!!!

>>22344659
I like hodgson, peake a lot of science fiction has cool ideas i guess. but what I'm more concerned with is ideas that facilitate a suspenseful gripping/intense experience. the concept of serialized fiction kind of appeals to me since it's like a sink or swim situation if the audience isn't entertained. but it seems that there's much more creativity in the manga field in comparison to the serialized stuff coming out now. it seems like it's all ripping off manga really.

I read a book series called Dun Lady's Jess by Doranna Durgin about a female horse from a fantasy world who gets isekai'd into present-day earth and is also transformed into a human woman and now I want to have sex with horses
don't make my mistake /sffg/

>>22342366
Dark Eden
Children of Time

>>22345415
Why not compromise with a centuar instead?

>New York Times bestselling author Taran Matharu’s debut adult fantasy series introduces an immersive story written in the tradition of the viral cultivation genre.

A traditionally published Western cultivation novel? Huh....

>>22345504
>New York Times bestselling author
>Taran Matharu
>adult fantasy
lol, I can bet all my savings this will have blacks, feminists, fags/trannys, strong women(possibly woman mc), progressive issues garbage, antiwhite agenda, subversion, identity politics, feminism, cuckery etc

guys

>>22345253
No SOVL

>>22345384
If you want thrillers read thrillers, lots of SFF happens to be moderately thrilling especially compared to litfic so people forget airport bookstore novels exist whose primary goal is to keep people from being bored on flights

>>22345257
Anasurimbor means Emperor, you mean Kellhus? or whatever his name was

>>22345648
Anasurimbor is the family name. The family name comes before the given just like in Nipland. There are lots of other examples of this in the books like Nersei Proyas or Ikurei Xerius.

>>22344203
How can I hate what I haven't read? I don't touch anything written by a woman or having a female protagonist.

>>22344838
Nah you ain't, bro

>>22345645
I used to read matthew reilly, decently entertaining but is this cookie cutter genre of historical/globe trotting shit really the most thrilling shit there is?

I'm reading stainless steel rat and that's kind of entertaining. but it still feels like most of this stuff comes from the same mold

>>22344349
By 'gimmick' you mean the story is reliant on one specific idea and its exploration, with little besides? I think a lot of Sci-Fis are like that.

>>22345415
>>22345475

>>22339640
I dropped the first audiobook a few hours in. Couldn't stand the author following every line of dialogue with "he said"

>>22345871
No, that isn't what I mean. It's more a "Got cha!" sort of thing.

Where to start with Moorcock? A lot of people say Elric but I'm confused about the first book of that, there's like 1 novella, a heap of short stories, a play and some essays

Just started Malazan. What am I in for /sffg/bros ?

>>22339298
Tried reading reverend insanity but I just can't be bothered with wuxia/xianxia/whatever stuff anymore. I read almost all of I Shall Seal The Heavens and the story just gets more and more boring the more it scales up, and it feels like reverend insanity and other stories like this aren't any different.

>>22345630
I fear the dark lord

>>22346002
RI and ISSTH are very different in the way their stories are told.

>>22345253
Conan the liberator was underwhelming despite it's fantastic premise, his sequels where conan is a dad are OK (i see those as proto-gemmell) but he is no Howard.

>>22345951
>Where to start with Moorcock?
Elric or Eternal Champion.
>but I'm confused about the first book of that, there's like 1 novella, a heap of short stories, a play and some essays
Start with Elric of Melnibone and end with Stormbringer, you can safely skip Elric at the end of time until you read the Dancers series since it's more related to that than to elric.
>https://www.goodreads.com/series/117866-elric-chronological-order
The white wolf omnibus collection has a good reading order for the entire Eternal Champion cycle.
>https://www.goodreads.com/series/43713-tale-of-the-eternal-champion

>>22345630
That's majestic and he knows it

>>22345971
I finished Midnight Tides a while back and I just can't get back into Malazan. There's too many characters and plot threads and I just can't remember them all.

Also if Seven Cities is so arid why is it so close to the polar cap?

>>22346068
Publication and chronological orders are wildly different, is chronological the recommended one?

>>22346123
For a first read? Sure, when/if you re-read it years later you can try the publication order.

>>22343510
His Secret Illuminations and sequel by Scarlet Gale
The Morgaine Cycle
Mists of Avalon
Confederacy of Valor
Serrano Legacy
Long Price Quartet
Cleric Quintet.
Maybe Honor Harrington??
Belgariad has best aunt/adopted mom/daughter Polgara.
Vorkosigan Saga
These are the only ones that come to mind, if i remember more i'll post them

>>22338706
It's more somber. He just wants to go home Anon
>>22338642
The end of A Rose for Eccliastes, when homeboy reveals he's actually a martial arts expert and donkey kicks the alien in the face

>>22345951
>>22346068
>>22346123
As someone who put a lot of thought into this as I was reading through, it doesn't fucking matter. I would say if you want a more coherent narrative to start with Eric until the disappearing tower story (you will see why), then do the first Corum trilogy, then the first half of Hawkmoon, then eternal champion, then finish Corum, Elric, Hawkmoon, in that order.

>>22339466
Matthew Reilly books are basically action movies in book form

>>22345475
>>22345873
centaurs are disgusting and anatomically retarded
there are many interesting made-up fantasy creatures out there but centaurs are the fucking dumbest frankenanimal ever

>>22346489
>centaurs
>made-up
>fantasy creatures

>>22346498
Next you'll tell me dinosaurs were real and not just fabricated to make turn us away from God

>>22346498
I want to take the greek imbecile who connected the waist of a human with the neck of a horse and subject him to scaphism

>>22346502
dinosaurs are real, but they were the first victims of Lucifer who turned them away from God, this is why they had to be totally destroyed in the Flood
this is why the Devil is connected with serpents, because he took the form of the dinosaurs to persuade them to sin, whereas God took the image of man in Christ Jesus

Recc a book with a lot of sexual encounters but isn't smut

Books that feel like videogames?

>>22346640
I know some people will say LitRPGs, but honestly not those. They read more like novelised TTRPGs than anything most of the time.
For an actual answer, I still maintain that Way of Kings' opening chapter is the most video-game-ass opening chapter I've ever read, it's almost blatantly the "tutorial level where you have a bunch of cool abilities before losing access to them by the time the game starts proper".

>>22346123
>is chronological the recommended one?
If you're a retard and won't notice the obvious drop in quality between the earliest Elric stories and the later ones then sure. But Moorcock never intended Elric to be read chronologically regardless of what that old faggot commie says and the later stories absolutely SUCK compared to the stories written in the 60s. I suggest you read them in publishing order.

>>22345951
Why would you want to read stuff from a subversive Jewish libtard lmao just read Howard instead

>>22345951
listen to this guy >>22346663
Michael Blackcock - sorry, More-Cock - sorry, Moorcock - is most famous for writing a story about a gay little elf crying about how sad his life is and killing everybody for not understanding his angst like a stereotypical brooding goth teenager. Where Martin is a malicious and spiteful deconstruction of everything Tolkien, Moorcock is a malicious and spiteful deconstruction of everything Howard. The only thing less worthwhile to spend your time reading would be Bakker, but at that point, you'd be better off watching the Star Wars sequel trilogy than using your braincells to read books

>>22346663
>>22346743
Deez niggaz spittin' dat troof fire.
Moorcock was the original LE SUBVERSION XD writer.

>>22346751
To be fair, if you're the kind of deranged queer or pain-addicted sadomasochist who enjoys reading that sort of rubbish, by all means have at it. But you'd probably scratch the same itch just as well by reading Warhammer 40k novels. If you're interested in actual heroic fantasy, read David Gemmell

>>22346663
>subversive Jewish libtard
wdym?

>>22346743
What is Bakker even supposed to be a subversion of? Continental philosophy? So far, with my very bare knowledge of philosophy, I can find a reference to some philosopher like Nietzsche, in fact the main character is a representation of Nietzsche’s ubermensch.

>>22346807
>What is Bakker even supposed to be a subversion of?
Have we reached the point where anons don't even realize grimderp is meant to be a subversion of the traditional tropes of Epic/Heroic Fantasy? Bakker is as generic as it gets as far as the usual LE SUBVERSION goes.

>>22346743
>>22346782
seething tolkiendrone sees name that means male chicken that lives on a moor and immediatly starts thinking about nigger penises

>>22346838
-t. Gaylord Focker

>>22338542
Comrades in Arms - Kevin J. Anderson (2012)

After being nearly killed in action, Rader has been remade into a Deathguard, an elite cyborg berserker with minimal organic parts and a very limited lifespan. His Werewolf Trigger demands that he KILL! KILL! KILL! (all caps in the text as well) and so he does, more and more, until he finds someone he doesn't want to kill. Thus begins the unlikely story of finding a Comrade in Arms in the enemy. Friendship and treason bloom on the battlefield.

In terms of word count, this barely crosses the threshold to be a considered a novella. In terms of enjoyment, it straddles the borderline of being mediocre and decent. What I found most notable about it is that it's a great example of a 2.5/5 rounded up to 3 story. It doesn't satisfy at all but doesn't leave me unduly dissatisfied. It tells an adequate story of "They want us all to kill each other, but what if we didn't?" The specifics suffice, but I don't think they matter all that much. That's really all there is to it. I don't recommend for or against it. It's just something short to read if you're in the mood for Humans vs Bugs military SF, though the bugs are on a similar civilizational level, have open dialogues, and both sides are idiotic. It's definitely not pro-war as there are various attacks on the military, patriotism, following orders, and the general concept of warfare.

As per the title, it finds that the grunts and the officers both have more in common with the their counterparts on the other side than with each other. If this were longer and better written it could've potentially been a story about solidarity among the troops on both sides rebelling against their officers and the leadership in general. That could've been amusing. As it is, it's more about how insubordination among one's own ranks is to be despised far more than the enemy. For an officer, the loss of troops is impersonal and expected. The refusal to respect their authority is personal and unforgivable.

This novella went how I expected it to, which is unfortunate, but not disappointing, as that would've required having higher expectations. As a tangential note, the more and more of Anderson's short fiction I read, the less and less interested I am in ever reading the Dune novels he wrote. I'll probably avoid reading anything else from him aside from when I see him in anthologies or magazines. It doesn't feel worthwhile for me to do so, despite it being that not that bad overall.

Rating: 2.5/5

>>22346821
The past roughly 20 years of entertainment has been comprised of virtually nothing but grimdark, we have multiple generations raised entirely on grimdark as THE medium with next to no awareness of the original optimistic sentiments they existed to denigrate and deconstruct in the first place, excepting in the forms of the purely childish: exposure to "family entertainment" during that period (up to the present) consists primarily of brainless baby shit like Teletubbies or Paw Patrol, there's no middle-ground

what are the best/ most essential novels set after a nuclear apocalypse (and where the nuclear aspect is important and not just a general background for the story)? currently 60 pages into A canticle for Leinowitz and it's great so far. planning to read Picnic by the roadside after that

>>22346961
Fallout Equestria

>>22346743
Moorcock's a big fan of Howard (and pulp in general, if anything a lot of his dislike of Tolkien comes from him replacing it) claiming Elric is responding to him maliciously shows a lack of understanding of the material.

>>22345971
>What am I in for /sffg/bros ?
the five stages of realizing you got memed
denial
bargaining
anger
grief

i forgot what the other one was

>>22346996
yeah and Rian Johnson claimed to be a big fan of Star Wars, words don't mean jack shit when you produce trash that is diametrically opposed to the spirit of the original work

Evil Serpent Men need to make a return to fantasy. Even modern S&S rarely if ever uses them as villains.

>>22345882
Kek. I noticed the he said-she said thing too... but my main thought in regards to it was was "good thing it's there because thanks to this godawful narrator I wouldn't be able to understand who was the one talking otherwise". By far the worst narrator I've ever listened to. Hardly any difference between male characters, female characters and the voice reading the prose. Only Avasarala and Amos have recognizable narration. On the third or fourth book there were apparently scheduling conflicts so the usual narrator guy couldn't narrate and they had someone else record it. And get this, he could actually do different voices for characters. Listening to him was like a breath of fresh air. Later on I looked the situation up and was shocked to find out expansetards actually preferred the original talentless hack.

Seriously give the audiobook samples a try and tell me this isn't the dullest laziest narration you've ever heard.

https://www.audible.com/pd/Leviathan-Wakes-Audiobook/B00P9XDQFY
https://www.audible.com/pd/Calibans-War-Audiobook/B075DK95GS
https://www.audible.com/pd/Abaddons-Gate-Audiobook/B00T6ODYMC

>>22347005
Acceptance

>>22342474
based transis

>>22338542
anyone here read the last Red Rising book?

My favourite of the series. Pierce Brown gets everything right for me. I love how his characters develop after each book. Enemies can become allies, and viceversa.
Important characters can die every book. You never know what is going to happen.

Initially I didn't like Lyria in Iron Gold but she has grown on me
it's clear Pierce Brown removed her parasite because that story line was going nowhere

What is left is sticking the landing with Red God.

>>22346743
Very sick of the
>le Martin is a Jewish subverter of based Tolkien
Nonsense

I’m a white nationalist btw

>>22347196
that's cool and all but why don't you instead tell us WHY you're sick of it, what part of the complaint you have a problem with, etc. get a conversation going

>>22346926
I'm sorry you thought reading KJA was a good idea.

>>22347276
I didn't think it was a good idea. Arguably a lot of what I read is a bad idea, let alone what I do in general.

>>22347196
FINISH YOUR FUCKING SERIES YOU FAT FAGGOT

>>22346926
your """reviews""" are SHIT
fuck off

Dang. I couldn't discuss books for so long. Didn't hiro pay the internet bill or something?

>>22347577
usually it's a 50/50 on ddos or some american doing another mass murder and the fbi freezing the site to check through posts
Although I've seen a few online games have issues today so it might be a webhost problem

Gonna write a short story about a man who creates a time machine so he can go back in time to tell Adam to tell God to NOT create Eve.

Pick my next /sffg read on my current backlog I have:
Non-Stop-Brian Aldis
Dr Bloodmoney-PKD
Chronicles of Amber(first five released in new sf masterworks omnibus edition)-Zelazny
Grass-Sheri S Tepper
Cities in Flight-James Blish
Bring the Jubilee-Ward Moore

It seems that fagget E William Brown is finally writing Daniel Black book 5. When do you think he will finish?

>>22347728
none
bad taste

>>22347719
I think you missed the point of the story.
>God creates Lilith for Adam
>Lilith sins against God's will by not submitting to Adam's authority but to live as his equal
>Adam is forced to watch his beloved be cast out from the Garden for all time, but it's better that she perish than Mankind perish, so God creates Eve out of Adam so He can try again
>Eve sins by being duped into eating from the tree
>Adam can't go through the grief and bereavement of another woman experiencing the Wages of Sin again, and willfully consumes the apple to join Eve in death
at any rate, Eve sinned through concupiscence, Adam sinned with intent

>>22347728
whatever you do don't read Amber you'll regret it

>>22341451
have you tried audiobookbay

>>22347899
Only book one is there. Books 2-4 (by the new narrator) disappeared off the internet. Don't know how the chinks pulled that off.

Any recs for hard-ish sci-fi about ayylium/different ways to experience life? I don't really know how to put it better but as an example I read Lilith's Brood and I really enjoyed it, pretty good example of the kind of thing I'd be looking for.
thanks frens

>>22348078
xeelee sequence has a lot of stories involving the lives of alien lifeforms, like a bio-engineered race of subatomic humans bred to pilot a neutron star through space, that sort of thing

anyone else read Jack Womack's Ambient series?

I've been reading the first one and the use of language is really cool. really feels like you're in some absurdist hellish future with all the weird neologisms.
>>22346371
>>22344364
>>22343223
honestly it seems like there's been very little experimentation with this genre. it makes me tempted to try and write myself. writing is fucking hard though and I'm retarded.
>>22344356
will check this out
>>22346371
I used to read him as a kid. they were pretty entertaining yeah, but pretty airport book core.

>>22348078
Semiosis maybe. I haven't read it. I know that it has some similarities with Lilith's Briis though, which I have read.

>>22348078
Love is the Plan the Plan is Death

>>22345971
The best epic to grace earth since the Iliad or the Odyssey. Seriously, Erikson is a genius who layers every page with social commentary and philosophical views of culture and history. As an anthropologist and archaeologist, he deeply understood the use of power in the remembrance of events, as well as the differences in perspectives that moves away from a western, mechanistic teleology.

>>22348109
>>22348128
>>22348140
Fuckin sweet they all seem right up my alley, thanks again

>>22348197
Nice try, Steve.

>>22347033
That’s because the evil serpent reptilians have infiltrated our government and phased out all media suggesting they would do this.

>>22347338
I’m gonna guess you’re a filthy HBO secondary or some newfag. No one who has read all of ASoIaF brings up the tired meme that GURM should finish the series. We already had to wait so long for most of it.

>>22348225
THE FAT BASTARD IS IN HIS 70S AND LIVES IN A WHEELCHAIR, HE WILL DIE WITH YOUR GAY LITTLE SERIES UNFINISHED, UNREAD, AND FORGOTTEN AS ANYTHING MORE THAN A SPEEDBUMP ON HBO

>>22348201
What other big fat fantasy series are there but Malazan, the penultimate exploration of human experience? Epic fantasy is literally the same as Hellenic epics from Homer or the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, yet most epic fantasy writers today are not worthy of our age.
R Scott Bakker? His books are dark for the sake of it and explore sexism (the waif, the harlot, the harridan) from a male perspective that is unsympathetic to female agency. His prose is also not conducive to rhythm and music like Steven Erikson.
George RR Martin? His series is basically a TV script and more influenced by serialised audiovisual media than it is anything to do with the epic tradition. It is also incomplete, as the writer didn’t plan ahead nor even keep themself in that world long enough.
Patrick Rothfuss? It is incomplete too. The story is largely just an ironic inversion of things from Tolkien, but there is no creativity in this, amounting to yet another false facsimile rather than speaking to an age.
David Eddings? His series are basically repeated from the first arc, yet Eddings believes changing the window dressing is enough, since he doesn’t respect our intelligence.
J.R.R. Tolkien? His approach has long been undermined and his series has only attracted reactionary mindsets, rather than speak to the multiplicity of the human experience in its variegated cultures and subclades of the social.
Robin Hobb? She’s probably the next best contender, but her world isn’t fully realised and as layered with years of speculated history that shifts and changes as in Malazan, with the experimentation of plot and character so central to the plan of Erikson’s undoing of the ossification of fantasy.

>>22348271
Why does this girl look so alien?
Her face is unattractive, even with all that fakeup caked on.

>>22348271
>misuses the word "penultimate"
I can tell the rest of this post is worth reading...NOT

>>22348290
If you can’t use context clues to see my poetic usage of a word, then there’s no point in you reading anything from either myself or Steven Erikson, as our usage of language depends on semantic constructions of shifting tonalities and rhythms, brought about by ambiguity and artistic license. Certainty is not a virtue.

>>22348296
>poetic usage
STUPID usage
>the penultimate exploration of human experience
=
>the second-to-last exploration of human experience
putting a phrase like that in your post indicates you're either an ESL and thus not worth listening to, or else you're a retard and thus not worth listening to

>>22348296
Should’ve used ultimate in that case then. Sounds better in general.

>>22348271
come on guys this ain't funny

>>22348331
You don’t even know that the word has more than one meaning. Are you ESL? I’m also hinting that there may be an epic series to top Erikson’s: my own.

>>22348437
You used penultimate as if it were superlative to ultimate, when ultimate is superlative to penultimate.

>>22348455
There is no authorial intent. The shifting kaleidoscope of meaning is going over your head. Keep the semantic games to those who have degrees in this subject, pitiful and naive journeyman of letters.

>>22348271
NICE
TRY
STEVE

>>22348462
>pitiful and naive journeyman of letters
A mailman?

>>22348467
Even a mailman is above this cretin who thinks meaning is set in stone. Woe to the unbeliever who believes in mechanistic, Western, patriarcho-chauvinistic, ultrarationalist science. Long live archaeology and anthropology—the master fields of human meaning.

>>22348476
>>22348462
I fear that you may be actually sincere.

>>22348476
>words shouldn't have uniform recognizable meanings, they should mean whatever I feel like at the time
I can tell an autodidact such as yourself has a keen understanding of the Dr. Seuss school of philosophical identity

>>22348541
Philosophy is for the vain. Read Barthes. Understand multiplicity. Your substandard inability to debate is amusing, however. Please entertain me more.

>>22348573
If I ever see the phrase "Death of the Author" I can immediately dismiss everything surrounding it, it is the apex of navel-gazing midwittery.

>>22348687
The fool in his hubris and ignorance thinks he has achieved enlightenment, although he has mistaken gloom for the sun.

>>22348709
The half-nigger in his nigger-arrogance and niggerness thinks he has stopped being a nigger, although he has mistaken the act of aping for that of being.

>>22348796
My father was a mulatto, my grandfather was a Negro, and my great-grandfather a monkey. You see, Sir, my family starts where yours ends.

Malazan is the best epic fantasy, bar none.

>>22348801
>guy calls you a nigger
>agree
wow you sure got him, Mr. 290 IQ

>>22347119
I have
>Ascomanni jobbed
>Entire siege of Phobos should have taken a paragraph like the offscreen adventures later in the book
>Apollonius subplot set up and delayed past the end of the book
>Demokracy as the end to the cycle of violence lawl, based ionian grandma BTFO'ing the author
Agree on Lyria being much better this time, I didn't even remember the parasite that much just le private eye fagote getting torn apart by barbarians, must have ended his pernicious influence on our pure Red gal

>>22348972
I’m gonna fuck you with my little black chode, bitch. Just like I fucked my mother.

>>22347119
>it's clear Pierce Brown removed her parasite because that story line was going nowhere
He talked in a podcast about how her plotline is about the victims of the war and the choices people make. This is my own speculation now, but Harmony was her foil, and rejecting the parasite was a choice she made to retain her humanity.

>>22349113
and it's not like she was any less relevant after, she's in the movers and shakers club not the refugee club for good now

Who among you are worthy? Who among you are brave enough? Who among you will preserve our canon?

>>22346143
Thanks alot, good sir!

Why are fat slobs the best characters in fantasy?

>>22348296
Bro used a word wrong and is coping hard now lmfao
Next time proofread your shill posts with a dictionary champ

>>22349368

>>22349117
I just scoured Lightbringer again, but did Athena ever reveal her name?

I've been reading Sons of Ares and it's pretty clear Pierce uses the series as a prequel for the second series and is foreshadowing everything in it. Which makes me think Athena is Sevro's aunt.

Which is the most grimdark series ever?

>>22347119
Felt like a letdown after Dark Age desu. I get that Lightbringer is more of a character focused book, but I enjoyed the chaotic war kino in Dark Age and the crazy and dangerous tech the factions were pulling out and expending in a galactic total war. Lyria's parasite at it's full potential would have been cool to see, even if it dipped into Warhammer 40k levels of craziness.

New thread where?