/lit/ - Literature

>>22320641
As a hghi IQ individual I can confirm that I am the only person against me.
Well my ex-wife too I guess.

>>22320641
>be considered highly intelligent
>always the smartest, most well-read, interesting and charming in a room
>absolutely suck at IQ tests
I know people who score highly and they come accross as more of a midwit than me. What gives?

The ability to read and regurgitate the information in a charming way does not indicate intelligence. This is why people become slaves to the IQ system in hopes of getting some Mensa card.

There is an ongoing genocide against highly intelligent men. We are ostracized, excluded from society, ridiculed, bullied, attacked and silenced. They created the nerd stereotype to portray us as disgusting and socially inept. We are excluded from reproduction. We are met with aggressive anti-intellectualism wherever we go. We are officially sentenced to a painful death from loneliness and depression.

>>22320641
>tfw too intelligent

There's unexplained dip in number of academics with iq around 145-160 if I remember correctly. Above 160 it recovers.

Explanation of the phenomenon I stumbled upon is this: humans have problem communicating with people when difference in intelligence is above one standard deviation. Academics in "dip range" have too much problems working with their less bright colleagues. Above "dip range" sheer intelligence allowes them overcome that, and there's where we get noblists.

So, without reading the book: it's not so surprising that highly intelligent person feels frustrated and constrained by society i.e. people at large.

>>22321007

Yeah, if you're just trying to reproduce then you might be overthinking this, either that or you aren't in a field where having high intelligence generates higher reward for your effort and aren't attracting mates with higher intelligence as a result. Legitimately smart women don't turn away legitimately demonstrated intelligence from men, at least in my personal experience, average female is more analogous to like a retard or something, don't scare them by demonstrating intelligence, especially too early when you meet them.

High IQ without lateral thinking means you'll never be a genius in creative fields (Science, Arts etc).

I'd rather be 135IQ with lateral thinking than 160IQ convergent thinker

>>22321019
So only 5-10 more IQ and I could have escaped hell by being autistic. Truly a tragedy

>>22320979
and rightfully so

>>22321031
For the arts "openness to experience" and "assertiveness" are better predictors. but I guess lateral thinking comes from the mentioned openness

>>22321019
>Just a few points too high for smug heaven
>Introvert hell is alarmingly accurate

>>22321019
>be me
>120 iq
>fucked a big tittied, 19 year old that I work with. She was a theater major
>I’m 38
>Smug af

>>22321626
Watch out guys, we got the next Harvey Weinstein over here.

>>22320939
You aren’t as smart as you think you are and people are being nice to you and/or you hang around dumb people.

IQ tests aren’t like the SATs. You can’t be smart and do badly on them.

>>22320641
What are some signs that someone is high IQ? Things that immediately radiate High IQ so that I don't waste my time with a midwit if I meet someone.

>>22321693
I didn't check this chart >>22321019
I got 130 or something last time I did one, being on the internet has warped my brain to the point I thought that's a low score.

>>22320641
what is the essence of being intelligent? I'd argue having a great memory, and being able to connect thoughts. This Id argue is the basis of being able to train up in any field of knowledge.

>>22321693
I would keep hitting aurelius with a broomstick to see how he can estimate and revoke it in his head

>>22320641
Society is against me. Do we live in the same society? How do you not know this?

>>22321076
>>22321133
>>22321749
Things are grim 130bros...

>>22321749
In that case, your estimation was accurate. I’m sorry 130 bro

>>22320641
where'd he find all these high iq friends?

>>22321833
>>22321893
wait are you guys for real? is 130 mediocre?

op is talking about the book, and his explanation is fairly apt for the viewpoint of Mr Clarey. He writes like someone who is 108 and the entire book is a curdling youtuber style rant devoid of evidence. His other books are all like this as well

>>22322066
>make a thread about a book
>pretentious pajeets flock go it thinking I give a shit about their IQ bullshit
It’s very tiresome, I know. The irony though.

>>22320979
lul the background looks like a fat dildo up a penised ass, and the curve looks very erected for its belled shape

also
>the test is completed
is it insinuating a cum-performace?

>your calculated
lalz, abbreviate these words and juxtapose the letters and its sounds like you ejaculated

>the erect ass are not viewable or pubic haired
wtf does that even mean


lulz, think I'm gonna watch sum MGio

we need to RISE THE FUCK UP chuds
society's been fucking with us and ridicule our superior intelligence for too long
total midwit death

>>22322054
130 is peak midwit. That's why Mensa is full of cringe redditors.

>>22321019
>126 IQ
>psyop'd in my early 20s by a Female
>feel bad for exploiting humans
>any refutations made are quickly outdone by my own thinking
It is over.

>>22321930
>You're IQ
Zoomers need to be killed.

>>22322054

>>22321930
>writes a book about how terrible it is being so smarts
>You're IQ
Absolutely perfect.

>>22321076
You can get 5 more IQ by just getting in good shape.

>>22321019
The bad grammar makes it clear that either a midwit or an ESL made this.

>>22322419
Oh yeah? What's you're IQ?

>>22320652
>hghi
DO NOT REDEEM YOUR IQ TEST RESULTS SIR

>>22322344
I’m no going to argue that this isn’t true most of the time, but Ruthsatz’s prodigies are an exception. They’re essenially autists who have a gene stopping the detrimental aspects of autism from being expressed, and account for literally almost all child prodigies. Their average IQ isn’t even 130, but they outperform everyone.

https://news.osu.edu/how-studying-child-prodigies-helps-us-understand-autism/

>>22320641
>https://assholeconsulting.com/
This is high functional autism or aspergers right?

>>22320979
If you were highly intelligent you’d be benefitting from society in any way you can and excelling. Intelligence isn’t just le math and science, that’s probably just autism.

>>22320979

>>22322433
It be 300

>>22322444
>They’re essenially autists who have a gene stopping the detrimental aspects of autism from being expressed
I would be a bit more cautious slinging this "theory" around, autism isn't even understood on its own genetically.

>>22322464
Caution’s always wise, but essentially every prodigy has this gene, a fourth of them are diagnosed with Aperger’s as children (then grow out of it), a fourth are born prematurely (prenatal conditions are probably the most important environmental factor for autism), over half know of autistic relatives, and all have large working memory.

IQ 180+ here (don't even bother to ask for a proof).
Let me deboonk the most common midwit misconceptions about IQ.

>but intelligence is multifaceted
IQ tests numerical and symbolic pattern recognition, verbal comprehension, short term memory, spatial visualization and logical reasoning. Wanna add something? Then present a rigorous test and justify why it should be included in the definition of intelligence.
>but what about emotional intelligence, social intelligence, twerking skills, number of followers on tiktok/onlyfans
Sorry sweaty, we're measuring intelligence here, not your ability to copy NPC behaviour.
>why didn't you win a Nobel prize/Fields medal? IQ means nothing when you're a loser
Intelligence comes with no obligation to contribute anything to the industrial-technological system. Acadummic success is mainly determined by obedience and social networking. A shitload of midwits (and in social "sciences" even actual brainlets) have a PhD nowadays.
>but what is your IQ good for then?
IQ enables you to quickly learn, understand, connect and creatively play with abstract concepts and to analyze, question and improve theories. Unlike a midwit whose highest achievement is superficially regurgitating what he's told.
>but IQ is racist
No, IQ is a factual statement. It doesn't tell you morally how to treat others.
>if you're so smart why aren't you rich?
Because I wasn't born rich and our economy wants obedient workers, not smart workers. You don't get rich by being smart, you get rich by being popular and sociopathic.
>if you're so smart why don't you get laid?
Attractiveness is determined by looks and status. Women are generally anti-intellectual and think of an intelligent man as a nerd in the negative sense, unless he's a gigachad. I say this as a married man btw.
>isn't this just cope?
The only ones coping here are the IQ denialists. If they didn't need to cope they'd just accept that there are people who are rightfully proud of scoring high on the IQ test

>>22320939
People with low IQ's tend to overestimate themselves in most aspects of life. So a low IQ person may think they're considered "highly intelligent" by others, or that they are perceived as "well-read" or "charming".

>>22322483
Is that the gene that both autists and prodigies in these families share or a gene only prodigies have and autists don't?

>>22322412
So if I get into shape depression and nihilism goes away? Will I become autistic? Perhaps.

>>22322444
>my child is autistic, therefore it must have a talent just like these prodigies
Coping Karen

>>22322457
>If you were highly intelligent you’d be benefitting from society in any way you can and excelling.
I'm a manlet.
> Intelligence isn’t just le math and science
Yeah, it also includes linguistics, history and philosophy. I excel at those, too.
>that’s probably just autism.
Officially tested negative.

>>22322497
Based high IQ blackpill enjoyer

>>22322515
The prodigies have something that autists don’t, though they share the genes that make one predisposed to autism:

“We believe that, for prodigies, there is a resilience gene or genes that are holding back the deficits associated with autism and allowing the talent to shine through.”

But also “In a study published last year, Ruthsatz and her colleagues discovered a mutation on chromosome 1 that prodigies share with their relatives with autism, but not with their other relatives.”

>>22322497
>IQ 180+ here (don't even bother to ask for a proof).
I use chatGPT as well :)

>>22322529
The psychologist isn open about the fact that the prodigies outperform autists—even in areas where autists are thought to be the best, like pattern recognition.

>>22322545
>isn open
is*

>>22321019
>blessed with an obsession
rather understating things here, aren't we?

>>22322311
don't bother touching how not to be a millennial if you thought the curse of high IQ* (*According to a midwit) was shit

>>22322444
Mmakes a lot of sense. Ex: Terrance Tao, the fields medalist, has siblings with autism.

>>22322607
and all of them were child prodigies, by the way.

>>22322607
That’s unsurprising but what actually is is how high his IQ is. Ruthsatz’s prodigies are on average below 130, but as children are outperforming adults with doctorates. I think Terrance Tao (his IQ is above 200, right?) is either a different phenomenon, or his area of obsession was similar enough to IQ tests to significantly increase his score.

>>22322626
what actually is surprising*

>>22322536
>Yeah, it also includes linguistics, history and philosophy. I excel at those, too.
It includes reproducing and many men uglier what you believe is stupider succeeded at it as you fail.

>>22322660
Lol. If you want reproductive success just become sperm donor.

So what are these 180 + iq up to?

>>22321007
>Above 160 it recovers
The tests only go up to 160.

>>22322678
I'm posting in this thread.

>>22322700
I don't remember particulars.
It may have been different range or it may have been the other scale (with 24 s. d.?). Shrug, if someone finds or have seen the study before, speak up.

>>22322660
Intelligence was never a criterion for sexual selection and never will be. It's all about height, money, status.

Midwits say they are intelligent but are you intelligent enough to be your own boss?

>>22320641
Being intelligent is like being a computer, mostpeople don’t know how you work, take you for granted, use you for something pointless, and don’t need you for anything practical like getting laid.

>>22322729
https://polymatharchives.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html
This seems to contradict what you are saying. According to this article professional and academic success peaks at 130-140 and decreases above. Of course this is hobbyist research but high IQ laypeople are the ones most concerned about this, academia has other problems.

>>22322844
Yes, kinda, partially. Thanks for the link.

Are people really trying to deny that we obviously live in a society that promotes/tolerates stupid people treating smart people like shit while also not really rewarding intelligence especially at a grassroots level?

>>22322344
No, midwit(You) is 110. 130 is smart but not genius. You are too smart to relate to normalfags but not smart enough to compete with the top tier.

>>22321930
Worst attempt at writing ever written.
>>22322929
>rewarding intelligence
Fuck off retard.

>>22322409
>i am IQ

How do I cope with a non-genius IQ? Smarter than all my friends and family, but not where it counts.

>>22322929
Above all, people want stability in their governance more than intelligence. Think about what people value in their parents and you will understand what people value in their governance. If you had to force rank what values were important in a parent you would probably choose 1. Fairness 2. Equanimity 3. Affection 4. Compassion…. And so on. Intelligence is way down the list. So don’t be surprised your IQ isn’t getting you anywhere if you are lacking in any of these traits.

>>22322795
>I define intelligence of a species as narrowly as suits me
Sorry bro.

>>22323006
I kneel

How did you guys get your iq tested?

>>22323144
Very easy - start with 100 points and for every year after age 18 you remain a virgin add 1 point.

>>22321019
>145+ IQ
>God is dead

>>22321019
Every single person on here who thinks their IQ is 130-145 actually has an IQ of about 115. They're also failures, so it disproves this graph. 130-145 is the perfect bragging zone without sounding unrealistic.

>>22320641
Comes down to it, the experience of high IQ niggers and low IQ niggers ain't all that different.
I wish I could just be normal. Average. Not retarded.

Clarey has some good insights but it's overshadowed by the fact he wanted to become a real estate scumlord and it blew up in his face. And I don't see how his nomadic lifestyle of going around the country on his motorcycle, fucking 5/10 bar slags, and smoking cigars is anything other than pathetic.

Also
>128 but I tell myself I'm 130+ because 15 points are malleable

>>22320641
There's a weird fixation with normies, especially redditors, on the idea of the tortured genius. You see this discussed a lot with respect to the gifted program. "Smart" people supposedly either fail miserably or become highly successful. In fact this is to the point that it's started to become pathologized; the somewhat recent conversations around the gifted program being just for people who are autistic/ADHD/etc., and this why they do well on tests and subsequently collapse after highschool.
In reality, having a high IQ correlates strongly with future success, happiness, earnings, and so on. Ignorance is not bliss, and anyone who is truly dumb will tell you that. Midwits can see over the veils of society, but can't look any further. So, they often immediately conclude that because what they were told growing up doesn't coincide exactly with reality, everything must be a facade not worth their time, and that they're oh so isolated and misunderstood. For midwits, this culture of seeing intelligence as a curse allows them to self-aggrandize, and for the rest it allows them to feel secure in their lack of intelligence.
I'm very happy I'm smart. I grew up in a bad area with a bad family, and if I wasn't smart I would have absolutely destroyed my life. I'm successful in school, people respect what I have to say, and I know if all else fails I at least have my head and ability to reason well. I enjoy exercising my mental faculties - it's fun to be able to memorize things quickly, grasp concepts, make connections, solve problems, etc. once you start using your brain well and regularly it becomes addicting. The alternative is much worse.
>>22321693
>IQ tests aren’t like the SATs. You can’t be smart and do badly on them.
Your score can be lower than is actually the case due to confounding factors like untreated ADHD, lack of sleep, etc.
>>22323538
based

>>22323558
I'm glad I'm smart but I was deeper in the hole. I had to come out of the pit of ignorance and dysfunction I was born into. In that sense, I'm similar to your midwit because I'm unable to connect with my religious family (their religion is maladaptive coping, not productive like some) and do feel somewhat tortured.

I'm hoping I can find success but I'm getting old and I have no idea where to go from here.

>>22323595
I wouldn't say that exactly, I was deep in the hole still. My family was abusive and shitty, and I am absolutely mentally ill (and was much worse when still with them). However, concerning the midwit type of thinking I explicate, the issue is that this sort of childhood or teenage nihilism many people go through (and I'm sure in us from shitty families to a greater extent) ends up being taken as some sort of unifying truth of the world - "I am smart; I see behind the games, and there's nothing there". Because midwits can sort of justify these thoughts while being convinced of their superiority, it ends up going unchallenged.

>>22322804
Plus computers have no sex and are disposable

>>22321637
>>22321626
based. that said, how the fuck are you 38 and in a job working with 19 year olds? What the fuck do you do? Run the cashiers at Chik-Fil-A?

>>22323083
Lol thinking that stupid people are fair or actually compassionate to what they don't control.

>>22322988
Arrogance.

>>22321019
slight problem with Smug Heaven is that the contestant simply hasn't realized, and so as no hope of overcoming, the things three moves ahead in the game - great misey and poverty awaits due to (near future) or Introvert Hell awaits; much the same.

Of course this chart drastically overreaches in the IQ range, I will happily remind the reader that the western nations have not bothered educating even their highest officials with simple logic to enable them to possess coherent thought and speech, toppling the mean real IQ down to mentally retarded levels and leaving some of us (snicker) as virtual Gods by comparison; greatly stretching the gap to be far greater than it would have been, say, in 1930:

100 IQ today, in this consideration, is 70 IQ in 1930 - or, for better reference, a small child in an Oklahoma schoolhouse in 1930 would be around 150 IQ, etc., (judging by the schoolwork and writing samples from those days).

Whether this is bad or good is not even worthy of my consideration, as a highly intelligent person I can talk anybody out of or into anything and feel no threat whatsoever from anybody around me.

>>22320979
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. That sting you feel about the whole "downfall of the species" is just the residue of nationalism wearing off;I'm sure, if you do feel that way, you couldn't cite many examples of why (the people who do this to you) are at all deserving of or even capable of following your commands.

But .......
>ongoing genocide against highly intelligent men
this is really a war against masculinity in general. I believe any child is more than capable of receiving a full lesson and becoming a functioning highly intelligent adult, they are simply neglected and left to atrophy, shamed under any excuse of the contemporary ideology.

Infantilism is really what you should be looking at.

>>22322497
>IQ 180+
lol

most of what you said is good, but explain this to me:
> I say this as a married man btw.
was it worth it?

>>22323955
The worst mistake in human history was mass literacy and you are a part of that mistake in every way, your entire family line is a horrible mistake stretching back at least 1000 years.

>>22322497
>Because I wasn't born rich and our economy wants obedient workers, not smart workers. You don't get rich by being smart, you get rich by being popular and sociopathic.
/biz/ here, this is objectively wrong. Imagine being too stupid to buy and hold bitcoin. How many cycles is it going to take, Mr. 180IQ?

t. smart AND rich

>>22320641
I was gonna kill myself but instead I cut off contact with all my friends and my mentally ill parents and now I'm thriving.
It's crazy how much of an impact being surrounded by low-IQ midwits can have on one's life. I swear I gained about IQ points by dumping these people and stopping the drugs and alcohol I was using to cope with their bullshit.

>>22323558
Only correct take itt

>>22324500
Yes, oh the fuck, yes. Yes to the infinity and beyond.

The worst days now are like the best days before. But I think it has more to do with toxicity than intelligence of my former fellow subhumans.

Now only to completely purify myself after decades in the cesspool and I can finally become wholesome human being.

Life is great when you don't have to interact with retards.

>>22324500
>I swear I gained about IQ points

>>22324585
Oops. I didn't say I was smart, anon - just better than before.
>>22324584
Congratulations. My stuggle now is to stop beating myself up about the years I wasted and do dedicate my time to the stuff that matters to me.

>>22324475
well since you're in need of it, I'll take 50 bitcoins, I guess, for a bucket of spinach - and an extra 200 if you want to keep hold of the plastic bucket.

>>22324619
Good luck. I treat those years as lessons that I can use right now: what I wish I have done back then and if I can do it today, do it. It helped me with getting over "beating myself over past" stuff.
Now only rid myself of self-indulging fantasizing about future that I used to cope with shitty present reality and focus on the present and on the doing.

>have ADHD, do test unmedicated
>score 128
>take ADHD meds
>score 138

>>22320939
Intelligence is just pattern recognition and abstract thought. Being intelligent does not preclude you from having some absolute wrong opinions and in some cases may even open you up to some kind of specially stupid opinions normalfags wouldn't ever consider.

>>22323558
>Ignorance is not bliss, and anyone who is truly dumb will tell you that.
I agree, being retarded is a curse. I know from first hand experience that being a sperg isn't what it's cracked up to be.

I completed mensa's iq test and it showed 108. Am I dumb?

>Are people really trying to deny that we obviously live in a society that promotes/tolerates stupid people treating smart people like shit while also not really rewarding intelligence especially at a grassroots level?

Tell me what advantage is gained through knowing your IQ as an adult

>>22324759
I can think abstractly very easily, it comes completely naturally to me and is my preferred mode. Thinking concretely or about IRL things completely fucks me up though. I don't consider myself smart for this reason - abstract thought is not enough on its own.

>>22325179
Career choice

>>22325190
Is knowing at 18 that's you have an IQ of 140 suddenly going to want to make you become a doctor? It doesn't change who you are or what you're capable of.

>>22321019
I'm honestly impressed how high IQ of a board /lit/ is. Everyone here seems to have an IQ in the 130-140 range. 4chan in general seems high IQ.

>>22320939
I'd guess you're good looking. Not even sexy gorgeous necessarily, just pleasant to the eye, and have manners.

>>22325215
>4chan in general seems high IQ
Have you ever browsed nsfw boards?

>>22323955
Understanding fairness doesn’t require intelligence, even babies and elephants understand it.

>>22320939
>I know people who score highly and they come accross as more of a midwit than me. What gives?
It's important to understand high intelligence and comprehensive education are not always mutual. I've seen genius with street smarts and no education and people who used education to punch above their weight by being self-aware of their limits.

>>22320939
What is your age and net worth? 'cause that's the only legit iq test all else is cope

>>22321019
Speaking as someone around 115-130, this feels like Mid-wit propaganda
We have the biggest risk of doing something really fucking stupid and thinking we are the smartest in the room when we are above average at best.

Even if the score is inflated, you should be able to equal this number
https://ravens-2-progressive-matrices-clinical-edition.netlify.app/

>>22325215
anonymous shitposting somehow discourages large swaths of the IQ distribution from posting on certain boards, such that you get boards like /lit/ which is mostly geniuses / high mids, and a few retards -- but you also get /ic/, which is 99% retards and low mids

>>22325332
>/lit/ which is mostly geniuses / high mids

>>22325215
Everyone is lying

>>22321007
>>22321019
So basically Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Smug Heaven = Peak
Introvert Hell = Valley
Autist Hyperborean = Plateau

>>22325215
>4chan in general seems high IQ
lmao

ITT: Average IQ of probably 102

>>22325215
I don't know if /lit/ is high IQ, but I do know most people on here read. If they read then if they discuss history they likely have some sort of historiography. If they have developed some form of historiography they likely can punch above their weight even if their IQ is just average.

This is how the quality of discussion is higher here. Though, as more people from other boards come in, you can start to see the decline, especially with bait threads where it quickly becomes clear no one has actually read the book that is the weak subject of the thread.

>>22325215
made me kek, well done

>>22325426
Although, I will say, there are some undoubtedly high IQ posters here, you know who you are.
The fact that you're sharing a board with a retard like me... I don't know. It's like, I blame all the ills of my life on my low IQ but then I see you motherfuckers and I realize shit might not have worked out even if I had an average or even high IQ.
Fucking absolutely brutal. Is it all just suffering?

>>22325215
Claiming to have a low IQ is the new claiming to have a high IQ among people who are actually high IQ.
>Shows how modest they are
>"Smart people recognize they know nothing"
t. Trend noticer

>>22325327
Yep, this is about what I expected, slightly surprised it is this high actually.
>>22321019
This also explains why depending on how I am doing I'll flip between Smug and Introverted. I've found thinking less and just punching stuff helps a lot.

>>22325439
>Is it all just suffering?
Healthy family and friends helps a lot, I've found.

>>22325327
does this test account for time?

>>22325513
Probably not, I imagine if it did my result would be way lower.

I just did the online mensa IQ challenge. It says my score is 138. I didn't think I was this smart, what do I do now anons?

>>22325311
>>22323558
While you're not wrong, the image (here: >>22321019) isn't supposed to be taken absolutely literally. It's a distillation of a notable pattern. Obviously, the chart does not account for other potentially relevant traits like conscientiousness, extraversion and open-mindedness as well as education and background.

>>22325363
Probably not, actually. Obviously the average is not anywhere near 130 but I'd bet it's at least a bit higher than 102.

>>22322066
Yeah he's a grifter from the late-2000s "manosphere" reaction with a focus on economics. Always seemed very rambly and try-hard.

While not a great overall analogy, the character of Salieri in Shaffer's 'Amadeus' does somewhat capture the curse of the smart non-genius. Salieri recognizes Mozarts far better than any of the mids around him. But for him this leads to resentment, jealousy and despair.

Every time I take one of these meme tests I become dumber and dumber.

>>22325327
>>22325480
>>22325513
The only one I got wrong is this one. The currently selected answer is correct (score goes up only when you pick that one) but I don't see why it's not the middle one.

>>22325603
if the boxes are
1 , 2,
3 , 4,
>moving 1->3 or 2->4, the shape order is incremented one step left
>moving 1->2 or 3->4, the shape order is incremented one step right
answer 5 is the only answer that satisfies this, despite answer 3 also being in the correct sequence of ●■▲

>>22325646
star*

>>22325547
either go on about your life or huff your own farts
mensa is the latter

>>22325646
>>22325649
Fug, thanks, I didn't even notice. I just got caught up with the third choice because for that one every shape position is new, which is also the case for the other three, but that doesn't account for the 1:3 and 2:4 association.

>>22325657
np, and congrats on the score btw. maybe we should take over the world

>>22325334
you think i'm kidding but i'm not. average iq of a /lit/ poster is probably something like 125, commonly accepted 'genius' iq is 130+

>>22325700
>commonly accepted 'genius' iq is 130+
God I hope that is not true, please be 140+ or something.

>>22325676
As the best pattern noticers in the world, we can open up a market-dominating antique rug store.

>>22325700
125 is pretty good, but it's still like the top 5% which is a sizeable portion of the population. Not too surprising to have a few places on the Internet where such people congregate.

>>22325646
Shit no wonder I fuck these ones up. I just move straight to answer 3 for the same reason.

>>22325657
Sure the the association also breaks the other pattern of no repeated shape positions, so either way a pattern is broken. These are kind of dumb questions if they don’t specify you should be looking for these rules.

>>22323202
how are you disproving it without proving the first

Btw the only rather accurate spatial IQ test online is the TRI-52 (Previously known as "JCTI"). "The JCTI has a Pearson R correlation of 0.88 with the WAIS Matrix Reasoning subtest, and also has a Cronbach’s Alpha of 0.95".

desu i believe it's more valid measurement of peak spatial capability than most "real" IQ tests, It's untimed and the questions are definitely much harder than what you'll find on Mensa or WAIS, It tests your pure spatial reasoning skills at the highest difficulty, Almost eliminating processing speed from the equation.

>>22325310
Lol, I guess billionaires newborns are like Dreisteins, at least.

>>22325342
Dunning-Kruger Effect isn't real.

>>22321019
never measured iq
definitely feel like i'm in introvert hell who sometimes uses hyperborean tendencies to calm myself down a bit but nothing to advance the world or anything like that
actually just saying this feels like trying to claim high iq but try to talk about your autist interests with real people and normies and smug heaven guys can shut you down with "so what?" who are both rated A++ and B
maybe knowing how to pursue something for it's own sake without constantly having to remind yourself is a hyperborean trait

>>22323558
>Midwits can see over the veils of society, but can't look any further
this could very well be describing you my dear smug friend

>>22325700
>>22325710
It's only 125 because I'm lowering it.

>>22325513
Doesn't look like it. I clicked through random answers as fast as possible and got 55 iq. Another online test gave me over 100 using the same method.

>>22321019
Just got in before the cuttoff for normie purgatory at 85 IQ

>>22324475
i kneel

>>22321019
Can his books help me ascend from the introvert hell?

Hello high IQ posters, I must admit it's rather pleasant being in such good company

>>22321019
Autist Hyperborean, but my obsession is manipulating normies like in Smug Heaven

t. lawfag

>>22326121
nope

>>22326196
More like hyperboring

>>22326196
>t. lawfag
How's that working out for ya?

Clarey's books are written at a grade school level and he openly admits to having never read a book.

>>22325327
>>22325513
>>22325603
Explain 38, 47 and 48. How tf do you solve these?

>>22326675

>>22326675
6 4 ? 0 2 4
? = 2
The shapes are a red herring

>>22326688
Oh, thanks anon

>>22326675

>>22326709
I initially thought that this was something about mirror images, but it's as simple as three dots is triangle and four dots is square (and no dots if both are in the image). Only 1 satisfies this

>>22326682
All the same shapes must be connected, and these shapes must not be mixed. Only 4 satisfies this.

>>22321734
Regardless of your beleif, ask deep questions about triggering topics
>flat earrff
>god vs evoluchion
>hitler

Npc cattle low iq get triggered by these

>>22326737
Sometimes the answer is in the answer..

>>22325327
This seems incredibly inflated, lol. No way in hell I'm a 127. Still, it was fun doing that, some of the questions really had me going.

>>22326876
It's not like 127 range is uncommon
Choose 5 random people and pick the smartest
Billions of them

>>22326885
>127+ is 1 in 5
Midwit moment.
Try 1 in 20.

>>22325826
Yeah. They need not do anything at all in their lives. They are better than any le talented but poor guy. Also their ancestors were high iq, so they made it, iq is heritable, bop, bing, bop

>>22325570
Wasn't his main point of resentment the fact that Salieri had to work quite a lot his whole life and even then couldn't match Mozart's natural talent? Not sure where IQ and such fit in the story

>>22325465
that's why as a retard i keep saying that i'm low iq so people think i'm high iq only pretending to be retarded

>>22322497
>IQ 180+ here
>Attractiveness is determined by looks
They had us in the first half not gonna lie

>>22327242
natural talent = IQ
it's a bit more than that in the case of music but the point is that it's an example of the trap of the second-best.

>>22321019
smug heaven reporting in. get rekt, nerds

>>22320641
My cope is that most of intelligence is just effective metastrategies/life habits that can stack over time. You see a lot of autists who are extremely smart and yet they never figure out people and by extension never really have an intelligent perspective on human history or people in general. You see a lot of people who are low IQ who figure out tricks for surviving or succeeding in business. I like this cope because It keeps me humble if I assume that most of my "intelligence" was just the luck of being in the right place with the right disposition to recieve wisdom, which means I need to keep refining my perspective and habits to be open to more wisdom and knowledge. It also prevents me from feeling bad about myself when I compare myself to very smart and successful people I know.

>>22321019
The people who use this chart as an excuse to stop improving or changing their lives are such subhumans. Even in my worst moments I've never used such a dumb cope to excuse myself from trying to live life better.

It's clear you need more than intelligence to succeed in life, what other traits are necessary, according to experts

>>22322497
I fuck femboys on the regular but have relationships with women. Pinpoint my IQ big brain man.

>>22324294
> 100 IQ today, in this consideration, is 70 IQ in 1930 - or, for better reference, a small child in an Oklahoma schoolhouse in 1930 would be around 150 IQ, etc., (judging by the schoolwork and writing samples from those days).

Do you have a source for this? Genuinely curious.

>>22325327
those tests are only useful to boast one's ego

>>22326709
>>22326727
the symmetry thing still makes more sense

>>22327689
The symmetry thing is nothing more than a red herring

>>22327607
Dunno about the exact source that guy had in mind, but you can see a decline in reaction time over time, which is correlated with IQ (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289613000470#bb0140)), but the other obvious one is a drastic decline in vocabulary. The correspondence of even ordinary people is practically literature compared to the average writing sample today in regards to vocabulary.

>>22327761
Language is constantly changing, and with regard to reaction time I think the sample size is far too small

>>22327761
>>22327779
Regarding RT, this is definitely an interesting idea but that study you linked really relies on this study for data ( https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/amerjpsyc.123.1.0039 ) which in turn relies on some work by Francis Galton in the 1800s, but the sample size in that is around 2.5k males and a few hundred females.

As for language, I find it tough to think that people who were mostly not literate possessed better vocabularies on average. I could be wrong, but you ought to be supplying a lot more solid proof with a claim like that.

>>22325828
Ironic.

>>22320979
have sex unironically

>>22320641
I'll tell you what the real curse of high IQ is: it's incredibly hard to form any sort of meaningful relationship with people because the average person is as distant from you as a literal retard is from the average person. Can you imagine having sex with a retard? Can you imagine how immoral and disgusting that would be? Can you imagine trying to discuss almost any topic you have interest in with someone who is 30 or more IQ points below you? Can you imagine what your childhood would have been like if you were raised by literal retards? Can you imagine how frustrating it would be to constantly live in a place where you had to watch retards fail at basic tasks continuously? Then, on top of all of this, can you imagine if all of society was made of retards who hated you for not being retarded unless you deliberately acted like them to fit in?
That's what it's like to be high IQ. I'm not talking university high iq, I'm talking above 130 or so. It only gets worse the higher you go. Sure, you could exploit all the retards because they are retarded and once you figure out how they think and where the gaps in their thought processes are it is alarmingly easy to commit very severe crimes to your benefit against them or even do things that are legal but morally dubious and exploit them, but if you are a person who has any sort of ethics or morals it is nearly impossible to live in modern society with high intelligence. If you consider those retards to be people who are worthy of certain levels of respect and dignified treatment regardless of how stupid they might be, this entire world is a cage for you.
>just be a sociopath lol
Spoken like a retard. Once you are smart enough, it is all but impossible to ignore the cascading effects of your actions because you know what's going to happen if you do something and you can't fool yourself into thinking that you are not exploiting or harming people by doing it.

>>22327607
>>22327761
There is no one source, you just look at the work from then and compare it to today. Maybe people 'have' gone about proving it on paper, probably they have as the 2nd guy says, but it's not necessary as the case is made and proven all over the place.

e.g.
> The correspondence of even ordinary people is practically literature compared to the average writing sample today in regards to vocabulary.

I'd go further and say that in the 1600 and 1700s that the thing would have been even more drastic among the literate and the learned, or perhaps not? It may just be that an unfettered access to real learning brings everyone to the same level, so 1930 boy and 1650 boy would have been the same. perhaps.

>>22325163
See, this is why 've come back to the notion of Class when I've given this matter serious thought; if you're clever people just know you're supposed to being charge or making sure thing are okay, so there's a responsibility that comes with it. If you're super smart and do fucking nothing with it then people will not like you because they 'know' you could fix their shit for them easily, but they can't verbalize this to you and they often do't want you to do everything for them but to steer them onto the effective answer so that they get it by themselves.

Consider that Class exists as a natural thing, not a social construct, and that the difference answers to a great many things (far more even than race or gender or culture) and that it's the one thing we can't really talk about without seeming arrogant.

>>22320939
I got tested as a kid because way too smart for school or some shit and got 149, test took 4 hours in a university.
Thing is I was really interested in maths, logic and stuff, so it boosted my IQ since it's what the test is mostly about.
Then 15 years later as an adult I got 120, which is a big difference on the scale, but I can tell you for sure I'm way smarter now and there's an even bigger gap between me and the average person.

The best metric I found for intelligence is the ability to "predict" the future and influence it. It covers a lot of skills especially human psychology and understanding oneself.

>>22327779
>>22327827
it is about language but it's more about logic; my point was about "coherent thought", as in: if a person is absent of proof in things or reasoning capacity, which relies upon language, then they are greatly stunted. You're right that language changes (superficially changes anyway, i would argue that older language usage is always more precise) but logic does not change.

e.g. if a person knows three languages poorly, and possess maybe 30% of the grammar in each language and knows no single language fully, then they're absent of 70% of the stepping stones or connectors to arrive at a complete thought when they go to consider anything in their mind - as well to attempt to articulate this to anybody else.

The excuse that language changes and that "it's okay if you don't know 'big words'" is simply not valid.

I'll just add, as a general thought on the topic:

the ignorant culture itself is artificial and derived piecemeal from marketing to the lowest common denominator, which produces and perpetuates infantilism or arrested development. This is obviously, then, the cause of the authors (or anyones) complaints; as the culture around us always drags us back to inferior positions. Anybody knows this when they hit maybe 16 or 21 and have some minor life experience to be aware of the repetition in the media culture, and the repetition in the actions of others.

e.g. we all watch a line of people doing the same thing; going to a mushroom and eating ti and becoming violently sick, we already know after only two observations at most - one ought be enough - that the pattern of eating the mushroom produces violent sickness and we know better than to do it, in a natural environment. But in an artificial environment 'we' can see this but we're subject all the time to a stream of nonsense which denies the observation, so we seem powerless to prevent people from becoming ill and even peer pressured into abandoning our faculties and eating the mushroom ourselves "just to blend in". That's were the complaint arises.

>>22325901
Explain how, then, instead of just saying it.

there are multiple reasons I look down on people who believe the IQ metric is anything substantial and share their number.

>>22322412
>mfw was in smug heaven
>got ripped, tested over 130, got the 5 increase and entered introvert hell
Damn I fucked up

>>22322497
How the fuck do you score zero on IQ test?

>>22328220
Name three

Some men wish they were taller. I wish I had 140+ IQ.

>>22328194
please learn to write

>>22325465
It implies confidence as well, probably a better outlook regardless of your score/education.

>>22325327
My official Mensa score is actually only 132 Kek

>>22328194
So many words and all you said is that some of us, who are highly intelligent, were emotionally arrested at 16/21.
Which is exactly on point, but I fear you didn't acknowledge it.

>>22328427
>>22328525
>So many words
well that's the problem isn't it, chuckie, the intellectually stunted person reads/listens to "so many words" misses all of the information and only hears white noise and reads random gibberish, whilst feeling the need also to 'correct' the person speaking or writing, which is laughable.

Anyway, you're both on point; demonstrating that the difference between one person and the other lol

>>22328427
tell you what, if you can rephrase everything that was said: >>22328194 without missing one piece, I'll consider that your remark isn't stupid. I doubt there is a simpler way to say anything that was said but I'm happy to be proven wrong =)

>>22325327
Kek this is bullshit I did this high
I am mensa tested but not 150+

>>22320641

>OP's picture: ME
>My picture: OP

The source of the author's issue is regressive infantilism perpetuated by mass-marketing. Widespread repetitive behaviour is readily apparent. Imagine a line of people eating a mushroom and becoming sick. After two observations at most, we surmise the mushroom is poisonous and abstain. Artificial environments obscure observation with nonsense. We seem powerless to prevent tragedy and even peer-pressured against better judgement to eat the mushroom.

from 208 words to 64

>>22328154
Childhood testing is a big meme

>>22325327
>141.5
Definitely inflated by an STD at minimum.

>>22328634
what's your mensa meme score?

>>22322497
>you get rich by being popular and sociopathic.
Can't you use you IQ to adjust your attitude and find the perfect things to do/say that'll make you popular and acting sociopathic?

>>22328829
you can, but to do that you actually have to be intelligent, not just an idiot savant

>>22321019
>Introvert hell
I want to be the autist hyperborean but too much of a midwit. Kill me.

>>22320641
Aaron Clarey is based, his Book of Numbers show how fucked dating is for western men

>>22328829
> to adjust your attitude
I STRONGLY suspect this intention (which I think is very stupid and short-sighted) is what's going on with the abuse of SSRI type narcotics... the sopranos is a good hidden satire about the dangers of SSRIs....

> to adjust your attitude
uh but probably not; valid intelligence is simply a full assessment of a thing - true there are depressive conditions or projection where the person reinforces some self-limiting bias - if your assessment is accurate then you can't trick yourself into ignoring it, if you do then you're hurting yourself anyway by ignoring the assessment. Being accurate is the key, of course, by eliminating errors.

I mean, in this scenario of yours... you want to, hypothetically, trick yourself into not being bothered by (doing some sociopathic actions), you accomplish it with drugs, but then you face the consequences of the sociopathic actions. You're kind of asking how to make yourself ignore the obvious failings in the actions of idiots; as if you want to ... like they do ... wander into a casino room and lose all your food stamps on a tiny chance of winning something.

I mean, you're not really saying saying that I suppose, but it's the same sort of thing. If you want to , for some reason, "be like" people who do that then you have to be genuinely retarded or doped up to the gills to not notice it. Consider also that those people do not want to lose like they do but are riding on false hope, you're (probably) far more along the line in experience than they are and if they knew what you knew they wouldn't do the dumb things either. In fact they would probably quit their jobs and leave their spouse on the spot, if they could see themselves as they are in reality.

>>22328847
i.e.
to be intelligent you must be dumb but you must be dumb to be intelligent but to be intelligent and dumb you must be highly intelligent - so at what level of high IQ do we need to strive for before we're laying in the gutter drinking from black cans? and what's the end goal of that guy? he seems to only be after heroin. is that level 10 metaphysics?

no. to be dumb you just have to be dumb, there's no brainpower involved in it.

>>22328978
>to be intelligent you must be dumb but you must be dumb to be intelligent but [...]
lmao what the fuck is that cope? And idiot savant is an autist who excel in some particular field. And actual intelligent individual can —and do— perform similarly to an idiot savant academically while at the same time being able to understand, predict and profit from NPC and cattle behavior. They're just another puzzle to solve.

>>22328991
>They're just another puzzle to solve
I mean their another puzzle to solve —for them. I'm just a midwit but I know a guy who is practically a genius (STEM stuff) and it's incredible charismatic even between retards.

>>22328991
>lmao what the fuck is that cope?
I was making fun of the notion that a person needs to be highly intelligent to train themselves how to be retarded when obviously it requires no thought at all. The answer is pretty simple.

>savant
Meh.. if you're talking about "high functional autism" then "high functional" in reality refers to "not 100% non-functional, and not needing full-time care" as in: Chris Chan can figure out how to microwave a pizza but generally lacks the wherewithal to plug in the microwave or recognize that the pizza needs more than 30 seconds if it's come from the freezer and not the fridge.

I mean, sure there's specialized tasks that some people have a knack for and can do nothing else, but these are all like diamonds in the rough; lumps of coal, who'll probably never be trained in anything else in their entire lives. There's no real comparison between that and a little kid who gravitates to some toy or game above other toys or games. The best example of a savant you could think of would fail against a trained person because the raw talent will only drag the guy so far; good example is Chess Bro vs. programmer of Chess Machine.

>>22329030
>was making fun of the notion that a person needs to be highly intelligent to train themselves how to be retarded
they don't imitate retards, they overpower them

>>22327565
>The people who use this chart as an excuse to stop improving or changing their lives
Where did that come from?
Believe me I've been harping on introverts for decades that they need to cut it out with the narcissistic pity party and endless excuse-making. But there's a real nugget of truth in that chart.

In software development, there was a movement in the 2000s called "Agile." It's fucking everywhere now and it's retarded. It's a bunch of cargo cult project management practices that companies use when they don't know how to manage a tech project. Normalfags just go with the flow and do whatever they're told, never criticizing or doing anything beyond maybe generic complaining. Smugs exploit the system, weasel themselves into scrumlord roles and whatnot. Hyperboreans get their Y-combinator seed funding and run their own company. The "cursed introverts" meanwhile are smart enough to see the problems with the system but not capable enough to either change the system or elevate themselves above it. The system is The best you might find are entertaining copes like this:

https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-agile-bad-agile_27.html
https://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/10/egomania-itself.html

>>22329149
>The system is
should read "the system is too big and powerful"

>>22323941
I’m a nurse. Nursing Aid is an entry level job that teens can do.

>>22328789
Weschler's >135
Even though I've mostly been high for the past 5... Years, I wasn't on the day of that test, needed the card for some scam kek

>>22328168
I'm the guy who posted >>22327827

I just want to know if you have a specific source for this specific claim, since the inclusion of "Oklahoma schoolhouse in 1930" is fairly specific.

>> 100 IQ today, in this consideration, is 70 IQ in 1930 - or, for better reference, a small child in an Oklahoma schoolhouse in 1930 would be around 150 IQ, etc., (judging by the schoolwork and writing samples from those days).

Really I can see everything you are saying being true, I just want to know what data you are using to arrive at this conclusion. Are there analysis of the school work of young Oklahoma children in 1930? I would be interested to read about that, not trolling.

>>22329805
I had a few of these saved and this wasn't the exact place I first read this... but... here: https://www.today.com/parents/100-year-old-chalkboard-drawings-found-oklahoma-school-t25166 there are so many other examples but this one stuck with me, partly I used the phrase because Americans consider "the south" to be retard central and it's nice to turn that upside down in the context of intelligence disparity.

>>22322536
>muh height
Cope. You have been filtered and are coping hard over it under the guise of pseudo intellectualism on a Norwegian Sacrificing board.

>>22328123
and so, we drink

>and so, we drink

>>22330388
2023-08-02 ... wha- what ..

>>22320979
I had my mentrual level tested once.
It was zero.

>>22324619
>I didn't say I was smart, anon - just better than before.
Nice.
Good for you, brother.

>>22325439
If you want to be a moral person, then yes it is all suffering.

>>22322054
yes, im 130 and a smug bastard, too smug to be anything but a midwit desu

>>22328123
I offer a counterargument, as a high iq individual in a low iq enviroment its not only possible but its a moral imperative to make society better for those retards (that you claim to care about). Learning their rituals and playing along with their social structures is simply an added challenge, and being the same species as them is enough justification for your intervention in their business, as is the fact that their systems directly affect your quality of life.
Matter of fact is that depression is independent from iq, and so is your lack if motivation, you are just a social pariah

>>22325603
This one is among the simplest, (Read from left to right, up then down), just move the last figure to the 1st position without changing the entire order.
Star from first pair moved to far-left from far-right. On the second one Circle should move to far-left as well, hence Circle, Square, Triangle, then Star.

>>22326675
>>22326688
For some reason, I continually counted only five shapes in the first box, and couldn't understand the relationship between 5 4 ? 0 2 4 for the life of me. I'm a retard.

>>22326682
>>22326737
This one is annoying, I read into it too deeply and saw a different pattern. In all of the examples, there are no more than two types of shapes; so I excluded choice 4 as it had too much variety. In hindsight, I was overthinking it.

>>22326709
I chose 1 as it seemed like the dots should not be bordered by anything on their horizontal plane (relative to the dots).

>>22331208
This one is making me furious.
It's the only one I cannot understand.

>>22330952
>Learning their rituals and playing along with their social structures is simply an added challenge
As a midwit you have no idea what it's like. Not just how hard it is to pull off, but the negative consequences to your psyche for acting it out. It's not the kind of challenge that's worth it.

Meanwhile, the opposite is true of relationships with peers. IQ isn't the only factor, but it's a big one. If you're a 130 and go from a society of mostly 100s to mostly 115+, the difference is massive. I've experienced this pattern multiple times, at many different stages of life (teens, 20s, 30s, and now my 40s). It's always the same.
I can fit in well enough with working class 100s, I've been doing it my whole life. But it's hollow, unfulfilling and really not sustainable. I don't mean in some kind of pseud "nobody wants to talk about Nietzsche" narcissist way, it's far more subtle than that. Socializing is important for humans (even introverts). Socializing with people you like feels good. It should make you feel energized and joyful. Not exhausted and worn out with maybe some materialistic/hedonistic success to compensate.

>>22324584
Now all you need to do is contain your false personality.

>>22325202
If you doubted yourself it will.

>>22331249
anon, interaction with dogs is more than enough to stave off social isolation; maybe im just a sociopath, but even when working with down syndrome kids, i have never felt unfullfilled on my daily interactions past my teenage years.
once i accepted that no one is similar enough to understand me , even those smarter or as smart; and that part of the social contract implies a certain loneliness, i moved on. Im diagnosed schizoid tho, idk if that matters.

>>22329957
Gotta be honest I thought you were gonna at least have a scholarly article for a claim of that size. Very underwhelming, typical trip.

>>22331224
Look at the first column (or even row)
The triangles and circles combine to form the square pic
Look at the second column
When a triangle and circle occupy the same space, they cancel each other out
Therefore the answer is 1, as the row and column combine correctly

I tested at 130 something as a kid. People have told me my whole life I'm gifted but I don't feel very smart compared to people I know who are probably 145+.

>>22321111

99th percentile openness here

can confirm success in the arts

>>22320641
>>22320641
I have 200 billion Iq. I know how to learn anything and how to get the most secure life. I dont push myself though because instead of that Ive basically solved the Universe and it hates me. The Universe is more powerful than your IQ. The Universe is boring and gatekept by sheer mass. So I dont actually like learning because it never belonged to me and the truth is I never did anything. Neither will you
Midwits will just say stupid cope things because they are animals just like the Universe. Its stupid but its actually very smart and intentional. We all have underlying motivations from billions of years of the same cause and effect and goals. Real high iqs will be like I was supposed to and succeed. But I was chosen by the Universe to be the weakest shittiest person who is actually not supposed to fit in his video game world called “life” and experience it in 16k definition with comfy technology and not too much distracting survival situations

>>22328123
I almost believe this, but part of me says it's just depression and drug abuse (to which I ran to because of isolation/loneliness).
I have managed to connect with a lot of average people by going through shit with them, but in the end I really am all alone.
And the frustration that I can't abuse that which I see, fuck it I'll go light another joint.

>>22331264
I don't think it's about your diagnosis.
The only way to really stop loneliness is to be there for yourself, and that other anon simply can't do it(yet).
Neither can I, hence my previous response(to him).
But you're right, addictions and bitterness aside, you are.

>>22321019
me in autist hyperborea
I love my special interests

>>22325603
>>22325646
>>22325738
It's not the middle one because these puzzles are to test pattern recognition, and most often you can find all sorts of patterns in one thing. This is why Discrete Calculus is useless when concerned with short sequences. We all found the correct pattern when evaluating this one as simply moving the shapes to the right, and there seems to be no rule against this, but the website has some other "correct pattern" already decided. It's like someone asking you what two summands add up to 4: you give them 3 and 1, but they were looking for 2 and 2, so you lose. In this case however, choosing either rule as this anon says >>22325738
breaks the other one.

>>22325603
It's obviously five. You just shift the line over to the right by one, and it wraps around.

>>22331756
Okay. Now start from the bottom left, and as you go clockwise you'll see that the shapes shift one to the right. Where does that leave you for the final square?

>>22331756
Consider this anon
No shape appears in the same space twice
Which is the only choice that satisfies this rule

>>22331758
>start from the bottom left
Why? Why go clockwise? There is nothing indicating that is the correct pattern to find. This falls under the
>A, B
>C, _
Format. There’s no reason to go clockwise or anything like that

>>22331764
That’s not a rule though, and the more obvious pattern is shifting one to the right

>>22331782
Okay, and there's also no "reason" to go left either. In fact, there's no "reason" to do anything at all. I'm not getting your point. You're saying "the more obvious pattern is shifting one to the right" - one to the right in what direction? Clockwise or counter clockwise? Left or right? Because just "shifting one to the right" doesn't actually mean anything if you don't denote when you do this - you have to decide on some sequence here no matter what.

>>22325646
You could equally say the boxes are
1, 4
2, 3
In which case 3 satisfies a clockwise (or anti-clockwise) movement
It also satisfies a "non-sequential" pattern of unique combination
But really I think the question itself is stupid

>>22331264
>maybe im just a sociopath
More likely you just never had the chance to see what you're missing so don't realize it can be any other way. Or more likely you're just a midwit so there are always plenty of normalfags around that relate to you well enough.
> i have never felt unfullfilled on my daily interactions
This is shifting the goalposts a bit. The context was "learning their rituals and playing a long with their social structures." That implies a lot more than polite, temporary daily interaction.
>even when working with down syndrome kids
>working with kids
Being some kind of teacher or tard wrangler doesn't count. Imagine being a student IN the class. Also, Down's patients are a bad example because their low IQ is part of a cluster of cognitive defects due to their genetic condition. They are anomalies. They're different from normal, healthy members of a society where the mean IQ is 85.
>once i accepted that no one is similar enough to understand me
The problem here is narcissistic attitude. The issue is not you being a snowflake it's the fundamental challenge of meaningful two-way communication between people across two standard deviations of intelligence. It's not an insurmountable barrier but it is a barrier and we shouldn't pretend otherwise or dismiss it as if the "added challenge" is a good thing (it's not good or bad it just is).

>>22331629
>The only way to really stop loneliness
You guys are missing the point.
Different people have different tolerance for being alone. I can go for a fairly long time without socializing and don't really get lonely. Hell, I'm married and have kids now, alone time is a precious commodity. It's not about loneliness it's about relative difference in the quality of interaction. IQ differential is not the only thing that matters, there are many other relevant traits (especially given the sophistication of modern political propaganda). But it does matter, the consequences are one of the themes of the thread.

Basically if you're a 110-115 you almost can't know what it's like unless you've spent years living in a place like Tunisia or went to ghetto high school. Most likely, the overwhelming number of people you encounter are well within a standard deviation of your intelligence. Whether it's normalfags or smartfags, IQ differential isn't a barrier for you because the IQ differential is always modest. If you don't fit in, it's for some other reason. You encounter outliers at either end only rarely.
fwiw I'm not actually this guy (>>22328123), he's a little harsh but I do think he makes a valid point.

>>22328123
Except it’s not the same as having sex with a retard, because they are not retarded. There is not a fundamental lack of capacity to understand, as there is with tards. Some 100iq normie could understand exactly the same concepts as someone with 130iq, it would just take them longer. Some 70iq tard is never going to be able to understand normal 100iq things, like math.

>Can you imagine what your childhood would have been like if you were raised by literal retards?
Iq is hereditary

The truth is, you are alone because you are socially stunted, not because you are too smart for everyone. Even if we take (you) at face value, there are tens of millions of people in this world as smart or smarter than you are. It’s not difficult to find them, but you might not like what you see when you do.

>t. 145iq

>>22332392
>That implies a lot more than polite, temporary daily interaction
What is a permanent interaction

>>22322497
IQ using statistical representation is misleading. There should be a merit of falsifiable achievement to a narrow test of cognitive assessment such that we can say "hey maybe you faked your test!" But not
"Hey can you really do what the test REPRESENTS IN REAL WORLD ACTION RELIABLY?"
The test must beg that question. Which test does this? Math class and engineering and geometry but my favorite geometry. Simply filtering geometry skills with basic observations is analogue to Ravens matrices diagaram selection. I am asking for BASIC dummies to stop bitching not a statistical authority to spook the stupids with stats they have never thought of.
Instead of saying THIS TEST IS THE END ALL BE ALL
It is a cognitive assessment of many to come and none to be avoided. This way it wont be bickered at with feminine bitchy dissimulation like half the thread does.

>>22332447
ok faggot, substitute "fleeting" for "temporary."

The point is we're talking about deeper, important relationships. Teammates at work. Classmates at school. Friends you do activities with, spending hours together. Relationships beyond taking your order at Chipotle.

>>22332490
I would've gone for "momentary" or "passing"

>>22322497
>>if you're so smart why don't you get laid?
>Attractiveness is determined by looks and status. Women are generally anti-intellectual and think of an intelligent man as a nerd in the negative sense, unless he's a gigachad. I say this as a married man btw.
Women are NOT aware how mean they are to nerds and how nice they are to douche bags and how the men who they are attracted to are hiding their nerdy nature and emphasizing their barbarian pimp douchebag nature

>>22332392
>The problem here is narcissistic attitude. >The issue is not you being a snowflake it's the fundamental challenge of meaningful two-way communication between people across two standard deviations of intelligence. It's not an insurmountable barrier but it is a barrier and we shouldn't pretend otherwise or dismiss it as if the "added challenge" is a good thing (it's not good or bad it just is).
Harsh, fair enough, i thought you were annoyed at the lack of connection, and that was my mistake. As for relating with people however, there will be things that are just part of the universal human experience, like loneliness and pain of rejection. Its possible to identify yourself with others under that framework
as for meaningful communication, of course its slow and pretty much pointless on 2 deviations, as you will peobably not gain anything out of that interaction. It is however possible, specially if you can ease abstraction of the comcepts discussed via methaphor.
however, If you have abandoned the object of interest and desire a discussion of concepts alone, that could be impossible and i pity you, but could argue that such a simulation is ultimately pointless

>>22326121
No.

But his mentor can. No, it's not Scthoppy.

110 iq here
ask me anything

>>22332545
ok then :(

>>22326688
What's the point of putting red herrings like color/shapes into the test?

Why am I poor and can't read Kant then?

>>22320979
i scored 150 on an actual IQ test done by a psychologist. I am highly sociable. I have always been admired. Girls have shown interests ever since I first socialized in grade school. All the highly intelligent people I've met were engaging, interesting and at least somehow sociable -accounting for their excentricity. I have weird interests, I come to 4chan yet I'm not some pathetic misanthrope.

You're probably not as intelligent as you think you are. I mean you took an internet IQ test for granted lol. grow up. IQ isn't a good metric anyways.

>>22332503
That's why you read Plato.

>>22320939
IQ tests are pseudoscientific nonsense, and the concept of IQ isn't a meaningful way to measure intelligence.

>>22332623
Because Kant has a retarded writing style. The actual content of his long ass sentences is trivial.

>>22332623
You don't give yourself the time.
Most of this tests have a time limit, this one doesn't and let's you think the answers through.
Then this just means that in your daily life you live in a hurry be it by your own doings or external factors.

Any rotatorcels?

>>22332668
demoralization bot

>>22325439
I am high IQ and even physically stronger than 80% of people alive and upper middle class. I suffer tremendously because I am actually literally legally oppressed.

>>22321019
Im 130 and I approve this message

>>22332817
link to pdf?

>>22332842
My gf is 140 right between the meme graph's perfect midpoint of introvert hell. She epitomized introvert hell in every single way. Despite being smart enough to revolutionize nutrition, medicine, pharmacology, and agriculture she cowtowed to the stupidest but confident and expensive orthodoxy of our time due to sheer emotional vulnerability. I was the opposite. Foolhardy and determined.

>>22332855
I wish

>>22328975
Amen.
I'm Mr No Nonsense ultra discipline party pooper go getter ascetic but still
ONE TIME you go along with the flow go get drunk...
I got an STD.
I found out no one cares people are totally stupid about this. They care about how you TALK about it not the damage for real.

>>22328123
Having sex with retarded women is not so bad, mate
Having RELATIONSHIPS with retarded women is the worst yes
But that problem gets kicked down the road for mother nature's ultimate bag holder: the white knight betabuxx oofy doofy deluxe
The Dale Gribble Dilemma

>>22332996
The ultimate blackpill is being a smart woman

The roughest for a diamond in the rough like river Ganges shitshow

>>22332996
Being Based is not cool
Being Based is not nice
Being Based is exactly what British nannies have always complained about
Machiavelli was based
Thomas Hobbes was based
Every scumbag who banged your whore mother and didn't have to pay was based
Based is not a compliment
It is a lament for an ailment so profound we cannot lament

>>22333028
>"You think women deserve respect, SPIDA MAN?"
>"TO MY DEATH I RESPECT WOMEN, GOBBY!"
>"MUAHAHAHAHAHA!"
https://youtu.be/zmZaszeecyg

>>22324294
>>22332971
Just fuck my shit up, senpai

>>22328194
>>22332971
Just fuck my shit up, f@m
Captcha: svxxx

Half the posts ITT:
>I have a very high IQ tested by a real specialist because that's the serious stuff
>except IQ is silly anyway and not relevant
>btw I go against every single correlation made about high IQ people that don't fit my views of society and psychology
>I also know many ultra IQ galaxy brain people and they all violate those same correlations which proves they are bullshit!
>now let me take a condescending tone and trash talk anyone not fitting the above while basking in my superiority (which isn't really due to IQ anyway which is silly hahaha)
>now let me leave the thread because I have to go to a foursome
Very convincing.

>>22333121
Welcome to 4chan new friend

>>22333028
"Sorry not sorry, nigga"

>>22333333

>>22333157
Not yet

>>22325202
At 140 you would probably choose CS or Electrical Engineering and see that doctors are NPC midwit pharma drones

>>22325215
People who read books come here to discuss books they have read. People who have not read books come to discuss posts by people who read books but that said posts have also not been read.

Still better than leddit and faceberg and instapeach

>>22333183
I read the book in the OP.
Aaron has to be a libertarian because that is presently advantageous. However it is not presently understood despite being a negotiation built around the constraints of understanding. He mathematically models economic layman research and has done so professionally. Yet none of the seething orcs in this thread will credit any of this because the subject itself is anathema to their comfy smooth brains.

Intelligent people IRL are incredibly successful, I don't know what you are all doing wrong. What is it with this intersection of IQ between 4chan and Reddit that causes losers to seethe so much?

>>22321019
I find it hilarious how somehow everyone in this thread and that I speak to online has 130 IQ, crazy coincidence! Definitely not just a number which is in the realm of not being to outlandish, yet also being something you can try and brag with.

>>22333279
>success confers intelligence
Right so babies with better brains are born on Forbes?

>>22333302
Touch grass
Eat a salad

>>22333435
I who have an IQ of 85 I love my pit bulls and i hate pitbull posters so much. I hope all you hide i q freaks get mauled by my pitbull and my dog breed of peace I who am not capable of irony at all do to my low IQ have articulated as much today my brother in in Christ whom I hate because of your anti pitbull racism for too long. Below, IQ 85 lovers of pit bulls have been on Facebook alone. Exposed to limited internet connectivity. I with my multi syllabic expertise express to you on this arcane posting forum. That has been vilified by every major media outlet Which I have also ignored due to my low low low IQ. The selective bias that which obviously a low. IQ person like myself would love posting here and find this author to be quite compelling.

>>22333468
I love white women so much it's unreal

>>22322497
>"acadummic"
>mentions muh not-so-rich upbringing
>whines about sociopathic elites

Dont you have a theory to shill Mr. Langan?

>>22321019
you can really tell this was written by someone who thinks they are smart cause they are sad.

>>22332533
Let me guess, Emerson?