/lit/ - Literature

>>22317690
P&V or McDuff

>>22317690
never ever P&V
igo with avsey

>>22317690
McDuff, Avsey are generally good
Garnett and Katz have better prose and flow if you prefer that (Garnett's reputation doesn't help her, Katz is goated)
P&V are turthful to the original but read like shit
Pick your poison
I dunno about MacAndrew.

>>22317690
>it’s the 474739495th Russian translations thread

>>22317731
Fuck off faggot. P&V reign supreme, no one on this board can refute this other than “its reddit”
P&V chads endure eternally

>>22318055
>liking P&V
newfag

I first read TBK with P&V
Im now reading it again but thr Garnet translation and its flows smoother (or maybe ive gotten smarter)

>>22318075
>hating P&V
Midwit

>>22318102
P&V reads like a pajeet trying to do ESL.
fuck off with your unreadable prose.

>>22318121
P&V reads like Dostoy in the original Russian. If you prefer Garnett or Averys flowery disneymarvel remakes, its because you dont understand Dostoy

>>22317690
What’s with the garnett cult on /lit/? Contrarians? Poor and can only afford public domain works? Trolls? She is culturally important but as a translator she’s been surpassed by everyone after her.

>>22318130
she's been the standard for over 100 years. nearly everyone that has read russian lit in english for the last 100 years has read garnett, for better or worse. so when you discuss or read analysis or criticism of these works that has been written over the last 100 years, everyone was basing their thoughts on that same shared experience.
sure some newer translations are more literal, or try to keep russian dialect and quirks intact, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. i don't think any translation is going to be perfect.

>>22318121
How is it unreadable? Are you just retarded?

>>22317690
Someone else posted this on another thread, can anyone confirm?

>>22318209
there are many cases where the english reader has to stop and reread sentences, or stumbles over awkward phrasing which is distracting and takes the reader out of the book. it might be more literal, but it reads like total shit in english. that's why a translation like avsey or the matlaw which updated and fixed garnetts find a good middle ground. or maybe this new katz one but i haven't read it myself.
>>22318215
yes this is correct
https://www.commentary.org/articles/gary-morson/the-pevearsion-of-russian-literature/
taken from this. it's worth reading if you are considering reading some russian lit.

>>22317690
Magershack or Katz

>>22318431
>Magershack

>>22318215
that’s well known.