/lit/ - Literature

Yeah, he's right. It's a pretty stupid misinterpretation of Egoism. Ayn Rand only got any publicity because she was a funny rare anti-communist jew on a congress meeting.

>>22301741
You should read every book as if you completely agree with it, take it as a revelation, let it wash over you. Otherwise you get nothing out of it. You can critique it afterwards.

>>22301754
Good post.

>>22301754
>You should read every book as if you completely agree with it, take it as a revelation, let it wash over you.
Noooo.... Sinclair... you're doomed against those Minbari warships... pull away, they're too powerful. "I'm taking you bastards with me, prepare ramming speed!" Oh God. Sinclair, don't do it. I'm completely immersed in this novel right now, but little do I know that he's actually possessed with the soul of Valen, a Minbari hero who led them to victory 1,000 years ago against the Shadows.

>>22301748
I don’t even really like Rand but then I look at your average anarcho-communist and start to feel sorry for her

>>22301741
>Literal who sends out a tweet offering no input aside from hubris presented as fact.
Convince me that the internet as a universal soapbox wasn't a mistake.

>>22301785
This is hardly the biggest problem. It's going to cause more deaths than the printing press before things have stabilized.

Posting a low effort twitter screencap Ayn Rand flame war thread should be bannable.

>>22301851
4chan doesn't have a working ban function, why do people think it does?

>>22301741
people way more successful than me hold her in high regard so who am i to judge

>>22301929
Are you vaccinated?

>>22301741
Literally the opposite is true of Rand you fucking imbecile. She is exactly half correct. Only a faggot retarded commie feminist would think something like this.

>>22301930
no why

>this is wrong, so the opposite is right
I don't know who this Chip Mattman is, but he sounds like a total moron.

Literally what is there to hate about Ayn Rand's Philosophy? If im not mistaken her entire sentiment is basically "greed is good, desire is good, If you want it you must take the action to make it real. You must do whatever it takes to see it through and live your dream." How the fuck can you argue against that?

>>22301963
She implies that it's the best way for the society. Saying that being greedy and selfish makes everyone's lives better is retarded. She doesn't make a moral argument, just an utilitarian one.

the titles of her books are pretty great, and the art deco style associated with them is pretty cool.

>>22301963
wow okay bigot

>>22301978
>She doesn't make a moral argument, just an utilitarian one

You have never read Rand.

>>22301994
In fact, in Atlas Shrugged she calls out the utilitarian defense of free market capitaism:

>I could say to you that I have done more good for my fellow men that you can ever hope to accomplish - but I will not say it, because I do not seek the good of others as a sanction for my right to exist, nor do I recognize the good of others as a sanction for my right to exist, not do I recognize the good of others as a justification for their seizure of my property or their destruction of my life. I will not say that the good of others was the purpose of my work - my own good was my purpose, and I despise the man who surrenders his.

General economic prosperity for her might be the consequence of capitalism, but is not its moral justification.

>>22301978
>Saying that being greedy and selfish makes everyone's lives better is retarded.
Alright, so the vibe im getting from this statement here is that her views don't align with communistic taste.

>>22302007
>I could say to you that I have done more good for my fellow men that you can ever hope to accomplish - but I will not say it, because I do not seek the good of others as a sanction for my right to exist, nor do I recognize the good of others as a sanction for my right to exist, not do I recognize the good of others as a justification for their seizure of my property or their destruction of my life. I will not say that the good of others was the purpose of my work - my own good was my purpose, and I despise the man who surrenders his.
Never read Ayn Rand or completely sure what Objectivism is but here it kind of seems like she's trying to say "I don't give a fuck about anybody else, I did what i wanted and if anybody else seems to prosper from it or gain anything from it then thats on them, i don't care. I just hate faggots who are too weak to realize their own potential and give up their desires."
This is pretty much what every revolutionary or leader has done to elevate their people or create some kind of change. The morality in which she portrays this is questionable but regardless of her reasonings for prospering and others gaining for it doesn't matter because it lifts others regardless. Only faggots begging for hand outs and rotting away not realizing their potential and being lazy can possibly argue against this.

>>22301929
>people who stumbled upon bitcoin in 2010 and now think they are economists hold her in high regard so who am i to judge
well i agree you are nothing but she still mediocre an i will defend that position against any "self" made inheritance millionaire or twitter economist scam bro with very good odds of serving better arguments

>>22301741
I read "Anthem" when I was 16 and thought it was the greatest work in all of literature, I was also a hardcore atheist.

At age 28, I now believe scarcity to be a spook and that souls and God exist.