/lit/ - Literature

>>22277648
I really like this one. Very balanced one

>>22277822
Yeah I was just about to say

Classic

>>22277648

90/100

wew lad.

>>22277861
>Vincent van Gogh's letters
Really?

>>22277887
ikr

>>22277648
Why does the Bible inspire you so much?
I'm not against religion but I just want to understand why?
Explain please? :)

>>22277648
How many m's are going to put in Hemingway, faggot?

>>22278131
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w&list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat

>>22278163
hello newfag, how's your visit?

>>22277648
/lit/ is so tryhard, Jesus Christ
this list is like... the opposite of having a personality

>>22278176
me-WOW

>>22278176
Theyre good books lad
>>22278163
And here anon begins hemmming and hawing

>>22277648
If you Chart, you're not gonna make it
you think Chad needs a Chart?

>>22278195
>i don't need to synchronize my reading with other people
>i cultivate quirk
lol

>>22278176
It's a consensus, not a personal list you mong.

>>22278556
thanks for this v cool

>>22277648
Why do y'all niggas never vote for Demons, despite always having Dosto in there? Did none of you read it?

>>22278581
C&P is more straightforward and TBK is easily his magnum opus

>>22278297
Anons can’t understand this. Consensus lists will never have obscure books, in fact it’s not even worth voting for obscure books.

>>22278599
dirty little secret is that the last 3 rows have below single digit votes every year

>>22278612
Why vote for a book if it will only get 1 or 2 votes?

>>22278176
Here's a person with personality

>>22278621
when you point a finger there's three on your own hand pointing back at you

>>22278617
>Why vote for a book if it will only get 1 or 2 votes?
The vote thing is just your top 3 books

Kek at the hipster anon with rustled jimmies because Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Faulkner and Joyce are popular on a board dedicated to literature. I guess I’m cool and a real reader though because none of the books I voted for made the list

>>22278628
tourists

Is there a chart/reading order for Kierkegaard? I've only read Fear and Trembling, but I want to read more from him.

>>22278986
Move onwards with Either/Or and then Sickness Unto Death

>>22279020
many thanks :)

>>22279043
Rolling
hh

Any charts on Medieval History? Not sure exactly what I want but I feel I want more than just the crusades or the like. I'm also afraid reading a straight up textbook would be too dry and I'd drop it

I have a few that I can dump, all of them are ancient though.

>>22279043
Roll

>>22279043
Eh

>>22277648
A girl was reading rayuela to me, one chapter every day through voice notes. She was somekind of crazy, but pretty cool of her.

>>22279906
>Jew York Times
>among the upper ranks in culture
There’s no actual way people actually consider NYT to be high culture right? Nobody reads an article about “whiteness” and concludes it’s a craft on a comparable artistic level to Citizen Kane or Agartha right?

>>22277648
Is that really a chart? Seems like a list or image sequence. Charts usually breakdown data like pie charts to show percentages.

>>22278556
in what order do I read Faulkner?

>>22280836
I would say
A Rose for Emily -> As I Lay Dying -> the Sound and the Fury -> Light in August -> Snopes Trilogy -> Absalom Absalom

>>22277648
Is there such a thing as depression core?

I want to kill myself

>>22280884
If you kill yourself I'm gonna go to your house and kick your ass

>>22280884

>>22278176
/thread

>>22277648
>The Crying of Lot 49
>DeLillo

>>22279906
>Grand Theft Auto below Modern Family and the Super Bowl
>Miles Davis near the top, above Frankenstein
What a joke.

>>22280247
Did you fukk her?

>>22277648
Infinite Jest at 1? Based. Lolita should be even higher, way better than Blood Meridian and the Stranger.

>>22279043
roll

>>22281696
Pedophile

>>22278591
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.

>>22279906
>Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
Don't they mean Percy Shelley's Frankenstein?

>>22282243
Dostoevsky has more humanity and beauty in his little pinky than Nabokov does throughout the entirety of his oeuvre

>>22279043
Roll

>>22282271
Dosto is essentially sadomasochistic, he loves dwelling on characters who revel in how depraved they are, but who also prostrate themselves in the just punishment or humiliation of their depravity. Again, sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes imply the exact situation he adored, all the violence and sexual intrigue he desired so much, but with the approval of his super ego since they ritualistically degrade themselves in a kind of spiritual fetishistic pleasure in confessing, being punished, and then being "redeemed". It's lurid and partakes of a sick kind of gratification in self flagellation.

Does someone have the Avaita Vedanta chart?

>>22280870
Thank you, I'll check those out

>>22279906
Damn, that image takes me back. We used to use the template as a bait on /b/ back in 2006 or thereabouts.

>>22282355
Your pessimism gets you nowhere, and a refusal to admit these types of people exist in the world betrays your naivete. There's a reason he named the most benevolent character across his entire novels after his deceased son, Alexei. Grow up some, maybe you'll come to understand his work better.

>>22282587
across his entire literary catalogue*

>>22277648
As long as this list includes woman authors, I'm not going to recognize it as the "official/lit/ top 100"

>>22282587
I've accurately described Dosto's style and subject matter. I'm not being pessimistic, I'm commenting on the demented nature of Dosto's work and the perverse reasons why a person would enjoy it. Yes, I'm sure there are people out there who enjoy cock and ball torture or it's literary equivalent (Dosto's work), but I find it hilariously Freudian and probably requires quite a bit of work exploring why such a person has this deep need for a parental figure to punish them for their naughty behavior, all the while pining more and more to engage in that naughty behavior and relish the subsequent ministrations of justice and the submissive role of the penitent. If you enjoy this kind of thing, unironically, get help.

>>22283186
>soulful prostitutes
Oh, you mean Mary Magdalene?
>sensitive murderers
Like Moses?

>>22283186
Freud is a hack jew whose pseudoscience set us back thousands of years, and your philistinic and puerile outlook on humility and guilt, as well as passion and inner toil indicates just how little you truly know. But go ahead, get your daily dosage of feelgood consumerist goyslop, it's about high time you inundate yourself with cheap thrills and wash your dulled serotonin receptors with another feelgood nothingburger. Go fuck yourself, you absolute child.

>>22282355
>>22283186
maybe Conan the Barbarian is more your speed?

>>22281696
the joke never dies

>>22279043
Rollin'

>>22277648
ulysses and gr are far and away my favorites (so far)

>>22283826
lol

>>22283826
kek

>>22279043
Sneed

>>22278007
Yes? It absolutely is life affirming

>>22277648
>>22277861
>>22278182
>>22278556
>>22279043
>>22279887
>>22279891
>>22280992
>>22282526
>>22282656
>>22283792
>>22283826
i have not read any of these

>>22278556
Flannery O'Connor wrote some wild stuff. Sweet, young, Southern Catholic lady and yet her short stories and novels are filled with violence, deceit, mayhem, and despair. And all by her death at 39.

>>22283203
>Like Moses?
Moses was a genocidal general who took young women as sex slaves and claimed it was God's will. Draw your own conclusions.

>>22283218
You seem... upset. Could it be that I accurately called out your personal fetish and now you have to grapple with how lurid and shallow it really is and can no longer deceive yourself about how deep and meaningful it is to be such a naughty boy that you deserve divine punishment from celestial daddy? The supreme irony is that you would benefit immensely from reading and applying Freud's work.

>>22278182
this is a retarded way to get into poetry. "start with the greeks" is stupid meme advice

>>22284116
I've been meaning to make a "intro to freud" chart for fucking ever

buddhism

here's one from /his/

>>22283826
Is “Our Carnivore Diet” a real book and is that really the cover?

>>22284300
1. yes
2. yes

>>22279043
Rolling

>>22277648
This is extremely different from every other top 100, so I am going to claim its rigged or flawed in some manner.

Here's the best /lit/ chart I've ever come across. It's no longer on the wiki as it used to be so I assume one of you retarded woke faggots removed it at one point. I still have it, so FUCK YOU.

>>22284112
Ohhh so youre just a simpering moralist faggot. Reddit is that way: >>>/out/

>>22284452
>Defending Moses

>>22284484
In 20 minutes I'll stop being upset but you'll remain an ignorant retard forever.

>>22284487
kek, nigga, you upset by posts on 4chan?

>>22284492
I'm upset that evil is this stupid and deranged in the modern age.

>>22284498
Plank in your own eye Christcuck

>>22277861
>Sentimental Education

Chart maker was feeling a bit cheeky when he threw that one in there I guess.

>>22278176
Any pre-2017 list is miles better
The Silmarrion, really? An incomplete collection of notes?

>>22282243
tl;dr + filtered

>>22277648
Le stranger is only so high because its the one book on the list you fag have actually read.

>>22284936
so?

>>22282243
huh?

>>22282243
>Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist.
There is no thing I care less about than what Russians think.

>>22284986
*"think"
slavey ukrainey
jk

>>22284300
yeah, but it's not really written by the petersons.

They could probably take it down, but apparently the thought it was funny (her daughter twitted about it) so they just let it be.

>>22285017
Stfu redditfag

lurkmoar or goback

>>22279043
Poлл

> no one noticed that some anon made some goofy little edits to the top note

>>22284099
Right.
Remind me again why Sylvia Plath was sperging out and whining about how she is not allowed to be a female writer in 1950s?
Both are from middle class single mother families (Plath's is more wealthy). Both studied literature and received literature degree in a "patriarchal" society. Both won some prestigious young writer competition.
My guess is O'Conner - rural girl, Plath - urban girl.
The world lost so much more with O'Conner's death. Plath kinda saw herself out when her novel which is 90% autobiographical and not creative writing didn't become the biggest thing in the world since Ulysses even though it received positive reviews.

>>22285440
plath more like blahth

>>22285440
This is hilariously uninsightful. Why did you type this all out? Where does this pass as conversation?

>>22279043
roll roll

>>22279043
rp;l

>>22284621
Definitely, I've read the book recently and it's definitely not blooming and loving.

>>22284284
why is the manuscript found in saragossa exit-level /lit/core? it's not depressing at all unlike other books on that list like melancholy resistance
did the author of this chart just look at the cover of the book and judge it by that?

>>22286502
i lol'd

>>22285440
>90% autobiographical and not creative writing
lelz
>>22285458
>Where does this pass as conversation?
Inside an autistic head where the only possible problem with a statement is inaccuracy.

>>22284429
You masturbate to femboys and that’s ok

>>22281678
Yes and I regret it.

>>22277648
dude, this is the 2014 chart and you just changed the date. fuck off

>>22286580
I mean, the Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas aren't melancholic either, but some of the most joyous, life-affirming work I've ever read. Stoner's also quietly radiant in its own way. They're not all depressing. The American Language isn't even fiction lmao

>>22279043
roll

>>22280992
The day lasts more than one hundred years isn't very sad. It's very moving, but I wouldn't call it depressing at all

>>22278238
>has to fit in with other littards instead of reading whatever he wants and filtering by himself
>literally sheep behavior, but o so erudite
lol

>>22287458
fit in? u ok?

>>22287466
What do synchronizing your reading with other people mean besides literally being a hallmark for fitting into a group of literates?

>>22287481
>can't write a sentence properly
u not ok =^) also: dropped

>Blood Meridian
>top 5

>>22287494
WELCOME TO 2023

>>22284429
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mods? MODS?

>>22279043
Let's try this. Roll.

>>22287494
no real love. no real hate. just a cat.

>>22279043
rolling

>>22279043
alright what am I reading next

>>22287733
librivoxing it ngl
dosto white nights
best be about cocaine abuse

>>22279043
Roll

>>22279043
Rolling rolling rolling

>>22279043
Rollan

>harry potter series

>>22279043
rolling

>>22282374
I hope you remember me for this

>>22278556
good list but needs Capote, Erskine Caldwell and Jean Toomer

>>22282656
Nice, thanks

>>22279043

>>22279043
roll

>>22277648
shut up retards

>>22280992
Consider 'The Evenings'

>>22279043
Roll

>>22279043
r

>>22280992
On the Beach bt Nevil Shute

anyone have a chart for DFW? I'm surprised one hasn't been made already. I know he didn't write much but still

>>22291177
>anyone have a chart for DFW?
>I know he didn't write much but still
I'm a /lit/ noob, I read trash and I'm happy to read trash but!
Wouldn't a DFW chart be more interesting if it contained similar books, books influenced by his works and his main influences rather than his limited library?

>>22280992
I disagree with a lot of these but I guess it’s all perspective. A lot can be taken as cautionary tales, like The Tartar Steppe. I posted somewhere else today that Pessoa is actually fairly inspiring if you view the narrator as extremely unaware of gift he has of making life into art. The Road is a book of perseverance and hope, just to name a few

>>22291186
>Wouldn't a DFW chart be more interesting if it contained similar books, books influenced by his works and his main influences rather than his limited library?
absolutely. i believe some other charts have that as well. then again, Kafka's chart is only 4-5 books since that's all he wrote. it also highlights certain short stories to make sure to read and I'm sure something similar could be done for DFW's articles

>>22278195
>Posthomerica
I have been browsing Wikipedia and goodreads for over a year to find more resources on Classical mythology and epic literature.
Why am I just now hearing about this?

>>22291177
>didn't write much
loooooooooool nigga what

>>22277648
>oh a new great list! time to read
>read the first four books
>satisfied.jpg
>look at the fifth book
>>>>>>>Lolita
Wow, another list ruined by pedoshill bullshit. Never post this image again.

>>22291218
>Wikipedia
>goodreads
stop embarrassing yourself

>>22279891
Absolutely disgusting chart. Almost no Print SF of value, bogged down with utter garbage. Never post again

>>22279043
roll

captcha: T4XXX

>>22279043
I will marry my result. Pure marriage!

Requesting a surrealism chart plz. Thx

>>22280992
>doesn't include A Farewell To Arms
dropped

>>22277648
how do i make a chart

>>22279043

>>22292161
mspaint

>>22291989
1 of 2 ive got

>>22292667
Numero Dos

Glad to see Catch-22 isn't as far up on the list as it used to be.

>>22279043
Rolling

>>22279043
ok

>>22279043
roll

>>22286888
Thanks for the heads up, I knew something was off.

>>22279043
Lets roll!!!!!

>>22291186
A list of his library is online already.

>>22291177
Read his essays if you haven't. He has a shit ton published. His cruise ship essay is one of my favourites. The one about the county fair is funny too.

>>22279043
roll

>>22284429
>No Kaczynski books

lame

anyone got improovor chart? kinda need it, thanks

>>22286744
Nah it ain’t

>>22279043
rawl

>>22294680
bloomer?

>>22279043
cmon cmon come on

>>22279043
rolling

>>22277648
>94: The Iliad
What has happened to this fucking board

>>22277648
>Harry Potter
What the actual fuck?

>>22279043
let's see what I get

>>22277887
>>22278060
Coping together at least.

What's a good list of books to read for retards like me who can't get into classical literature because I don't understand the writing? I like books about atrocities in the world, such as books on north Korea , the holocaust, I also like fiction but it has to be written in a way that people talk today.

>>22277648

>>22277648
Thanks anon

>chart thread
>10 charts posted

>>22278556
Is this the corncobby chart?

>>22279043
Roll

>>22285433
Nah I noticed it, but didn't really give a shit. Yes funny number ha ha

>>22291989
Just read erotica and you'll get the same experience.

>>22279043
roal’d

>>22279043
rolling

>>22299039
>>22299039
>>22299039
Taking requests for any topic you'd like to see, and the books listed under them. Acts just like charts.

>>22277648
That chart sucks ass use mine instead

>>22284297
It's they one which isn't so eurocentric?

>>22299783
>*Is *there one which isn't so eurocentric?
Fat fingered

Bump - I love chart threads

>>22279043
rollan / bump

any recs to get into Late Roman Republic and Roman Empire series of books or book?

>>22279043
Rollan

>>22279043
rolling

>>22284723
The ironic part is that this list is literally a 2014 list with the current year edited over it.
You’re a pretentious faggot.

>>22279043
cool

>>22284041

No one's born patrician, anon, they're made. Get started.

>>22279043
Rolling

>>22279043
bowl

What do I read (preferably short) to invoke the feeling of pride, lust and desire?

>>22279043
rollinnn

>>22303250
the r/nofap getting started guide

>>22277648
Gimme a good one. Rollin

>>22277648
Rawlin

>>22292090
>hemmingway
>depressing lit
LOL

post the ryan-core chart

>>22279043
Roll

>>22303395

>>22303861
lol what is this chart?

>>22277648
I'm sorry, but having just finished BK, $3 is WAY too high!! I might not even put it in the top half of this list. I give it a 6/10. 7/10 if someone would edit about 200 pages out if it.

...or did I get filtered?

>>22304015
>did I get filtered?
Yes

>>22303976
>he wasn't here for the thread

>>22279043
Rollllll

>>22277648
this chart is objective proof that you should not take recommendations on here seriously

the Harry Potter series is rated higher than the Iliad and boring pseuds like Nabokov or McCarthy or Camus and annoying christcucks like Dostoevsky are at the top

Give me a chart with JUST living authors.

>>22304287
what? please elaborate

>>22299665
i refuse to believe that 1984 isn't up there ironically. abasolutely shite book

>>22306288

>>22303861
This is full on imbecilic, and actually embarrassing to boot. Can you imagine being so dumb that you just list thirty books as if they're great, when in fact they prove you're an illiterate retard? I mean look at the chart, it's not even a collection of the best works of particular authors, instead the chart creator was so poorly read that he repeated a ton of authors, sometimes blatantly inferior to popular alternatives. Hilbig's Old Rendering Plant? Wow, congrats on shouting to the world that you've never read any László Krasznahorkai. Kafka's The Castle, but not In The Penal Colony, or The Hunger Artist, or The Trial? What an embarrassing choice. This chart is an almost impressive amalgam of retarded shit.

>>22279043
Fag

>>22306324
calm down anon, you're on 4chin

Requesting a sci-fi and a high fantasy chart, pls

>>22284429
Underage b&

>>22302407
Kek you're a retard

>>22305233
Kill yourself

>>22279043
Rolle

>>22286752
>rayuela
how long did that take? Isn't that 700 pages or so lmao

>>22279043
roll

>>22279043
Rolling for Borges!

>>22279043
Im gay

>>22305951
Someone once asked what core the
>boys walking around flaneur-like during a summer's eve
novels are. Some anon whose name was Ryan said this is his favourite kind of novel, so the chart was named Ryan-core.

>>22279043
Rollerino!

>>22298121
Some serious shill tier books on this. Where did it come from?

>>22306634
see
>>22279891

>>22279043
roll

Who has the charts for the ancient Mediterranean, Greece and Rome?

>>22309143
the chart i need tyyyyyyy

>>22309521
being depressed is pretty reddit babe

>>22309538
you know, im over depression. ive seen the lowest low. im now afraid that im going stagnant, a kind of existential fatigue where depression or vitality both dont seem to phase me. yeah you can say its a kind of depression but not as chaotic anymore as the pic in my previous post would suggest. i am now looking to slowly but surely get myself out of this after coming to acceptance about my past. its why i liked your chart, practical without any kind of motivational doomer bloomer crap. slowly but surely anon, we will make it

>>22309598
allow me to rant more. ive been thinking, some people are more adept at conceptualizing and philosophizing about life, meaning, theory in a particular field. i think it shows up in MBTI scores consistently. anyway, its a blessing and a curse in that you see through the facade of everyday material life but it doesnt do you any good to daydream and especially form some kind of theory about it all. i think it ruins your unique experience (phenomenology) and you are more inclined to feel depressed about life and its purpose. you have to be relatively intelligent to make that observation though and so you should be smart enough to bring yourself back. instead of being depressed about seeing whats behind the curtains, you have to then use that knowledge to get back into the game. if you wanna be blunt you can say 'to delude yourself again' but thats stupid and naive. you have to be clever about approaching life back after something like this and find your niche. i brought this up in an archetypal way because i see it in other people who have the same burning questions about life and i thnik they are more inclined to end up on websites like this. to give you the opposite person, its someone who is living in the moment, creating a history, however temporary, without questioning its grand meaning. they are intune with their 5 sense and have no need to look beyond, they will find it boring actually to debate these questions. there are advantages to both types (this is not an absolute dichotomy) but there are also weaknesses and each has to understand how to manage their weaknesses, especially if its causing them existential crises (former cases), or complete lack of direction and then heavy consequences (latter case).

I made this list last year for some tradcope warcucks on /fit/.

Rate

Anyone have the Discworld chart with the science books included?

>>22305233
Die.

>>22307575
I remember that lol

Horror anthologies.

>>22309114
what is the meaning of sffg?

Anyone got a good horror books recs, anon?

I read Great God Pan and had nightmares :(
but I want to do it again :)

Any charts for humorous short stories? There's already an anthology but I'd like to see more. Thnx.

>>22279043
Rolling

>>22282526
only 8 books of 100, is worthy continue reading the others?

>>22288922
Nta, but thank you

>>22305233
>Anything about women?
>No.
Kek'd

>>22282243
>I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov
Having just finished this, I agree.
Parts of it are brilliant, but it is far too long, as sections that are irrelevant to the story, and is mostly just fucking over-rated.
I am thoroughly disappointed.

>>22282271
>than Nabokov does throughout the entirety of his oeuvre
well done.

>>22310434
sissy fliggy floggy googy

>>22279043
roll

>>22279043
rull

>>22305883
It's actually a really old chart made to look like it just happened.

>>22309989
>>22306757
npc

>>22291637
npc

>>22279043
roll

>>22311552
>>22311520
thanks for the heads up anon

>>22279043
Roll

>>22284429
>anarchist cookbook
Are you excited for the 8th grade, buddy?

>>22277648

>>22278182
to get into poetry, I think one of the most important things is to start with the greats of your own language, not classics that have been translated by middling academics

>>22279043
roll

>>22309806
Are there charts for other eras of philosophy?

>>22277648
how many of these have you guys read? i’ve read 11

>>22283826
>Introducing Jung
Let's add Jung for Beginners while we're at it.

>>22279043
yeah

>>22310399
Why is the color scheme in this char blue, white, and yellow? I don't get it.

>>22279043
Yep

>>22279043
Poлл

>>22279043
Rollllll

>>22277648
>brothers karamazov
>lolita
>bible

>>22310430
this looks pretty sick but my favorite horror anthologies are the ones compiled by Marvin Kaye

>>22277648
I’m almost done with 2666 and I honestly don’t understand why it’s so high on the list

>>22285440
Have you read any Sylvia Plath? She doesn’t complain about not being allowed to be a writer at all. She was a prolific writer for her whole life

>>22279043
roll, bb

>>22277648
>Illiad no.94
shit chart

>>22279043
oge

>>22314700
b/c of part 5

>>22279043
>>22279043
Jesus. Let's do this.

>>22279043

rolling

>>22279043
rolling HH

>>22279043
Roll

>>22279043
rollllll

Any good books about nihilism