/lit/ - Literature

>>22258743
Crime and Punishment. 90% of its quality is contained within the first 100 or so pages. The middle is full of paid-by-page filler and the ending is cheap christcuckery.

>>22258743
I felt Neuromancer and Ringworld had shown me everything they were going to show in the first 1/3

>>22258743
Worm by Wildbow

Don Quixote

Low-key everything i read feels like front-running, i often discard books halfway through. Only really good writers like Faulkner and Joyce can maintain the energy or even disturb you for a while and save the best for a crescendo of release

My diary desu

>>22258743
Journey to the west. Nothing against that book, but the beginning chapters about Monkey are some of the most fun stuff I've ever read

Got suckered into buying pic related because it's heavily advertised on Google. I have never experienced such a sharp drop-off in intrigue and pace in my life. DNF after 150 pages because none of the characters are properly developed and none of the stories go anywhere.

>>22258743
Almost all of Kafka, if he was able to finish the story at all

>>22258743
Dracula. Only the part about the mansion is any good

>>22258743
Under the Volcano
Gravity’s Rainbow

Wtf happened to pirate and roger mexico? The book just starts following Slothrop’s rocket-guided boner, which is okay I guess, but the other two were much more interesting characters

>>22258807
You are a retarded stupid nigger.

>>22259296
Halfway through Gravitys Rainbow and was wondering about this. I dont mind it tho, Slopthrop is funny and he makes me hæhæ

>>22258743
Most longer novels introduce the overarching themes in the first 50 pages and the spend the rest of the work following the plot as character drama.
Some novels deserve their length, most are very repetitious as they don't introduce or expand upon the themes past the second or third chapter.

>>22258743
Any of the longer Peter Handke books

>>22258807
based, pnly brainlet wanabe pseuds will disagree

>>22259296
They both return, just need to keep reading.

>>22259296
>don't leave me...

>>22258743
My diary desu. I had so much potential....

>>22258807
TBK is much better. It basically has C and P in it. Once you’ve read TBK there isnt much need to bother with C and P. It is recognized simply because people dont have the fortitude for TBK.

>>22258743
unironically the bible

>>22259560
>>22259335

Yeah honestly I gave up on it, I felt I got out of it what I wanted in the first half. I guess they come back but idk why he abandoned them in the first place. Giving up on Roger Mexico’s love affair (They are in love. Fuck the war) was unforgivable for me. I got an extremely acidic feeling when death interrupt their siesta, when the bomb blows out the shudders as if to say “just try and tickle me”. Why the fuck would he go away from that scene for like a hundred pages? I felt betrayed and gave it up. Pirate I found funnier than slothrop too. Idk. Big dissapointment but still I put the book way up there in my favorites for what I did manage to get out of it.

>>22259022
Your a faggot.

>>22258743
Atlas Shrugged.

>>22259582
>was unforgivable for me.
He does not give up on it and it is a very important part of the novel despite being a small part.
> but still I put the book way up there in my favorites for what I did manage to get out of it.
But you didn't even finish it...

>>22259703
Yeah cause the second half is shit. Do you not understand the threat, fuckface?

>>22259709
Are you a dilettante in general or just when it comes to reading? I am guessing in general by your reaction.

>>22259715
Ive probably read more lit than you, also I make 6 figures and have fucked and loved a small myriad of beautiful women and created my own family. My interests aren’t many outside of alcohol, women, and literature, but I’d say I’m pretty well-rounded when it comes to appreciating life. Can you say the same?

Should have just asked mom to make pancakes which I would have enjoyed much more.

Should have just asked mom to make pancakes which I would have enjoyed much more.

>>22259745
>being a dilettante means you are well rounded
lol. I am comfortable in my life and where it is going.
>Ive probably read more lit than you,
Probably not, I got drinking and woman out of my system 20 years ago and have been fairly focused in my interests and goals since.

Something tells me you are shelf poster.

Wind Up Bird Chronicle: Fuck you, bastard.

>>22259906
Great job using a faggot-ass word youre so proud to know just to “get” people. I know what the fucking word means idiot, my point was that one can be a dilettante when it comes to living, ie half-assing it in general or dedicating it to some stupid fucking idea thats probably wrong anyway, like a Sherwood Anderson “grotesque”. You are dedicated to reading now is it? Well good for you, but nobody is going to give a fuck or remember at the end of the day because people are retarded and basically don’t even know literature exists.

>>22259916
God Murakami fucking sucks ass

>>22259296
They come back but Slothrop is the main character. I love GR but I remember being confused because he basically introduces Slothrop 1/3 of the way in

>>22259923
It is not that I "get" people, I just understand the difference between a dilettante and a well rounded person, the well rounded person would not have made it about ego and made boasts which they can not support, things like assuming you have read more than someone you do not know and then get triggered about it when you find out that it is not true. Ultimately it comes down to how we relate to our own ignorance, the dilettante denies them and resorts to ego and attack, the well rounded person acknowledges their ignorance and says that is for those with more skin in the game.

>>22258743
Lucky Per

>>22259566
nice dubs, i love cp btw

>>22258743
The Count of Monte Cristo

>>22258743
every manga

>>22260035
Well its hard to judge as someone who knows nobody else with skin in the game. But I would not on an objective level consider myself one since I feel I’ve read a lot of great literature. Funny thing is I’d probably just want to cut up with you if we’d met and talk about lit with someone who actually isnt a retard. Do you write yourself? I want to but have barely dabbled since I’m so busy all the fucking time. I could reference Either/ Or

>>22260291
The ending is rushed but cmon its still incredible

>>22258892
Some of the bests parts of the book were well Into part 2

Starship Troopers, the first chapter is balls to the wall, edge of your seat stuff and it never reaches those heights again.

>>22258851
Seconding neuromancer. Truth be told everything there is in it can be gotten from the shorts in Burning Chrome.

>>22258892
Bad opinion, though the inn part did drag on a bit.

>>22259916
Wind-Up Bird Chronicle would look like this.
Fuck Boris the gulag and fuck Cinnamon and Nutmeg just giving Toru the house.

>>22260609
Yeah, and to be fair to Gibson he wrote a much better novel in Count Zero. I think partly because it was a serial in a magazine meant he had to keep adding new stuff but also he knew he couldn't write a 3rd act to save his life, so he wrote 3 narratives with 1st and 2nd acts, and then ended it there. It makes for a much faster paced novel.

>>22258807
Filtered

>>22258743
The Hobbit. I know this is controversial, but I have an extremely difficult time getting through the dry anglo writing, especially from Tolkien who is the driest.

The Things We've Seen by Agustín Fernández Mallo

>>22259566
thematically c&p is kinda "subset" of tbk, but i found c&p a more enjoyable read because it is streamlined and better focused with its themes

>>22258743
So a bad book then?

>>22258743
Eragon. Robert Jordan did a great job, but they switched authors part-way through and Paolini trashed the thing.

>>22258743
I liked Dune but it went to shit when Leto died imo