/lit/ - Literature

>>22238652
Direct Link:
https://lampbylit.com/magazine/issue-017/

Special thanks to all the haters

>>22238652
BASED

We're back.

I love the cover

do they accept erotica?

>>22238741
hells yes.
if its longer than 2k words tho, consider submitting it to Lamp Standards Anthology, not sure yet if it'll be erotica, romance, or mystery, or all three. same submission email.

also atlas,
my phone is charging so i'll be afk for a bit.
the TOC on the 'small' pdf has the wonky green, but looks like the print version's TOC has the right green paint. whatever. thanks for tolerating me.

>submission didn't make it in

>>22238799
We had a lot of content this time around, so don’t fret if you didn’t make it in! There’s a good chance you’ll make it into 018

>>22238803
man don't tell me 018 is full up already, I'm trying to get this piece done for that. and it needs like 4 more drafts.

Did you guys proofread it this time? We're not gonna have another Mixtape incident are we?

>>22238803
Cool! I will keep working on more stuff.
>Ari's old Power Punk post made it in
Based beyond belief. Reminded me to charge up my Ryoba.

ohshit wowwow

>>22238799
Checked. Submit it again.

>>22238819
I will Fixtape Hyperbond that issue if it’s as bad as you say it is. Everything gets proofread but it’s still only a handful of anons.

>>22238819
Specifically if there are repeated lines. The typos are on him probably but repeated lines would be a formatting error.

>>22238855
Sent.

>>22238892
Got it. Thanks anon.

>>22238652
i enjoyed this issue quite a bit

>>22238652
The MNMDR feature looks really good. And New Nesmer is always cool. Will have to give it a good read-thru

The irony of atlas writing that piece cannot have been lost on the editors

>>22238952
KEK

>>22238952
This guy gets it

>>22238941
I need to finish reading your book, I had to take a break a quarter way through. I had no idea about the controversy that's detailed in this issue. That is insane.
Also saw a picture of a girl holding lemurs and one was grabbing her breast and staring at the camera and I thought of you. Wish I saved it.

>>22238952
Ryan and I co-edited this issue, and he helped me write the MNM-DR piece. All we can do is embrace the irony.

>>22238970
too bad twitter is fucked right now
would be cool to get the #tag going

>>22238993
#JUSTICEFORMNMDR

>lemur is almost as old as my ma
holy shit!
If I am to choose my favorite lemur edits, guns akimbo will always be first, followed by the super saiyan lemur, then the Joe Biden lemur.
>>22238970

The interview was great. Glad to see you both doing well.
Also, that bitch definitely read the myspace and photobucket(? been a minute) hacking bit and lost her shit. That schizo seed was planted and fully bloomed. Bitch will die thinking on that passage. Also what's her @

&amp!

This is a particularly comfy issue. Haven't read everything but Summer Matinee and Robot Wars had that nice &amp feel to them

>>22239078
I'm reading through this too and this Sellersposting is grade A schizo.

The kind of behavior reminds me one a girl I knew that bombed her brain out with drugs and even after quitting she couldn't stop seeing synchronicities (what a same person would call a coincidence) everywhere. She would roam graveyards looking for signs and randomly make phone calls while crying, telling me that "God spoke again today."
I didn't really consider it before, but BAS definitely has so much transgressive energy that someone who is disturbed would not be able to handle it.

>>22239098
Honestly, BAS is very insightful. It presents two extremely accurate pictures of people with low level atypical psychology. I can say as someone who had to kick an identical somatoform disorder I was certian that BAS was autobiographical.
So, given the level of detail and insight into mundane but particular behaviors, I can see how it would act as a classic schizo trigger. "Wow, this book is *literally* about me!"

>>22239126
>>22239098
Also, as Atlas mentioned, I think white women are suffering from latent psychosis at a level that would shock people. I mean, we know they're all medicated for various psychiatric disorders, and, personal feelings on the efficacy of those treatments aside, I feel that's only the tip of the iceberg. Feminine psychology is more prone to fracturing under the unnatural circumstances we live in, and I feel like these women are very, very cracked, but, like autism in females, it presents in a way that is more tolerable and thus goes unnoticed.

>Psychics have told me in 2019 he was about
only "30 percent in the driver's seat"

>>22239161
>as Atlas mentioned, I think white women
Keep in mind that Atlas is the female version of a blackcel. She hates white women more than any of us combined.

>>22239203
fuck off ari

>>22239203
>>22239222
Would be great to have a thread without this shit but ah
I will not refer to the past episodes of either Atlas or the editor, i imagine everyone on 4chan is some manner of cracked.
But my opinion on white women isn't really that they're exceptional, I mean much has been written on the overlooked ill health of the mongrel races, but there's this trend for everyone to point and laugh at the crazy and aggressive white woman, and no one takes the next step. Why the fuck are 40% of these people on mind altering drugs? What is going on? We used to be a country. Not anymore. Now,when I shout compliments at jogging MILFs, they give me that glassy SSRI stare.

>>22239203
The day Ari dates a white woman is the day &amp dies in nuclear fire.

was this entry spell-checked?

>>22239261
All of Brenda’s emails were put in exactly as written for the sake of authenticity.

>>22239242
Ari is already dating a white girl.

>>22239261
nevermind, it's an actual person writing these emails.
i hate this person already. i'll have to skip this section.

Ari is a writer of dubious finesse but powerpunk is conceptually excellent. A great satire-but-not-really of the emerging truth: human muscles will be relevant for some time after human brains have been obsoleted.

>>22239291
The concept is good but the writing itself is choppy and awkward

>piece was written and proofread while I was at work
>happy to finish it and have it accepted
>fucking loaded with typos

We’ll at least it’s the last story

>>22238959
likening BAS to a cognitohazard really lifted me into the clouds.
would be neat if someone wrote a brilliant crazy Behead All Satans SCP entry.

>>22239365
Each of those paragraphs were separate posts from last year, and the first paragraph was written no more than 25 minutes after someone posted "POWERPUNK" to encourage him to write it. It was totally off the cuff.

>>22239203
Atlas is actually based and actively and categorically eschews contemporary academic English curricula and wokeness.

Wow. The MNM-DR article is nuts.

>>22239496
This was an excellent issue, readability-wise. Hope Atlas can keep up the energy while Ryan is in jail.
Interview and Powerpunk were the best.

Alex Prestia's story is a nice meta take on the age old complaint of work eating your will to create. Stirred in a little Toyota Celica satire. Little obvious once the dream sequence came on. Thought the ending was poignant but too neat a punchline.

Have to agree with the rest, Powerpunk is amateurishly written. I think Ari can do better, though. Probably needed a few bakes.
>Villains do not hang from trees or get cast into shallow graves
Emblematic, really. Cliche construction, cliche phrasing "shallow graves", a cliche and imprecise verb "cast"(doesn't this evoke Satan thrown from heaven or demons banished to hell, all too ceremonious for the graceless dumping of a victim of mass murder?).

Respect to Ogden for making me pat my pockets with the opening paragraph. Typos in this one, missing commas. Shouldn't gripe, but it's worth a mention. CBA to list them here, but a read through should find em.
The story repeats itself a lot, in the beginning. I understand trying to hold the reveal for as long as possible, but it drags, especially after we've gotten a taste of something deeper. Didn't like the ending, but the plot was energeic enough and we got a taste of pretty well rendered characters.

Won't comment on the poems. I dunno shit about no rhymin

>many happy days
I fucking hate vinyl siding. One, it's ugly. Two, it reveals the absolute lack of care for persons this hyper industrialize man sacrificing wasteland harbors. How can this country justify constructing these plastic and timber coffins when devastating hurricane are a semi-annual occurence? The rest of the tropics have that figured out. Why not America?

Anyway, fine story. Some weird descriptions (workers both cruel as jackboots but apathetic? possible contradiction that exists in a person, but shouldn't this be conveyed in seperate sentences at least?) Less a story than a vignette/portrait

>me glazing Jackboot Norman made it in
neat!

rest later

>>22239203
4chan showing its diversity again

>>22239506
right? shit is wack. fascinating read tho

The movement has begun.

Summer Matinee was really nice. Don’t usually see stuff like that in &amp

Where can I find a copy of Behead All Satans?

>>22239857
Google it, you’ll find the PDF pretty quickly.

>>22239866
Grazie. It doesn't sound up my alley but it sounds quite fascinating. Great job on the interview too.

>>22239789
Based sonicposter

>>22238799
don’t sweat it, you might as well be rejected by three monkeys in a closet with a banana phone

>>22238652
Bigly jazzed to see this out.
Seems like things are really stabilizing with the current team, luv u guise.
Going to read/review later tonight while descending into a manic state to write some pieces for next issue.

>>22238652
Actually being able to subscribe to this luxury periodical would be neat. Could do it through indiegogo or something

>>22240069
Good idea

>>22239857
or duckduckgo "BEHEAD ALL SATANS PDF" and archive.org link will pop up

>>22239754
finally

>>22239078
>lemur is almost as old as my ma
and my ma (still alive) is as old as Harrison Ford and Joe Biden.

>>22240221
Has your mom ever read your books? She must be very proud

>>22240221
very sinister image

>>22240295
she's proud...but not because of my books...not her speed at all.
she's a huge fan Diana Gabaldon's Outlander novels.

The amp guy going to jail? What the fuck?

The blatant samfagging and self-shilling in this thread is pathetic.

>>22240459
my mom likes agatha christie but that's ok
they're very well structured mysteries

>>22240525
If there's any justice.

>>22240525
He said that the DA charges were dropped but it looks like he still has to answer for breaking the no contact order. Likely only 90-180 days. Not too bad.

>>22240531
If you track the IPs there's been no samefagging, just people making multiple comments. I've personally made about 13? Just talking about the contents of the magazine. Is that allowed? Lemur guy isn't pretending to be anyone other than himself. Atlus and I assume Zulu have made a few comments.
You seem to be a contagious sort of miserab.

>>22240549
is 'out on good behavior' a thing in Canada? if so, maybe he gets released sooner.

>>22240556
Yes, but it's never done for short sentences. I think even in the US "good behaviour" is something reserved for multiple year sentences.

>>22240549
>>22240566
wait a minute: is he going to jail or prison? is there a difference in Canada or is it a bottomless pit term like rock n' roll?

damn, Lamp is a #blackownedbusiness until the editor gets out of the joint for smoking crack and beating his bitch
What a world.

>>22240579
We essentially have "jail" but it's referred to as provincial vs federal, with federal being the "fuck you in the ass" tier of incarceration where you're with the bad guys.
Under 2 years = provincial.
Over 2 = federal.
Editor will be in the goodboy prison system in all likelihood.

>>22240555
Checked.
Not him, but I've had the thread open since the link was posted in the last thread. Some of the posts that appear to be pretending to be new IPs are not new IPs. The amount of samefagging is certainly better than normal, but it's far from organic conversation.

>>22240672
can I send books to the editor while he's in jail?

>>22238652
>Disneyworld Balkanization ftw
Behead All Satans interview was fascinating. Very noice.

>>22239561
>me glazing Jackboot Norman made it in
wtf is that?

Gummy Prompts is really good. The unhappy malaise of the power poster. Oh my god im gonna poooooooost!

>>22239781
I also really liked it. An elegy for communal immersion in the age of the individualised algorithmic micro-theatre of the mobile phone. There is no event now for our enthrallment; no ritual for our rapture.

bump

I remember when Powerpunk was first discussed/proposed. Badass to see the final version.

>>22241659
That was almost 10 months ago. Funny how time flies.

Not seen much chat about To Make the Mud yet but it's great. Love the unrepentant usage of jargon, very convincing. Has the pit in the stomach horror of all good accident reports.

> Military drones just look creepy anyway, but the Chinese ones had these fins at the back that made them look like weird bats.
kek'd

FUCK IT ALL WHEN IS THE &AMP REVIEWS VIDEO COMING OUT AAAASA

>>22241986
Soon! The first video is completely done, there’s just an issue with uploading the file that he’s trying to fix.

>>22242112
How hard can it be to upload a file! YouTube sucks it up automatically! You can't keep him away. Just last week I lost my wedding video to his gulosity.

>>22242112
What's the scope of the videos going to be? How long are they?

When is the best of &amp coming?

>>22239561
>>many happy days
thanks for your thoughts. you're right, "apathetic" doesn't paint the right picture in that context. what i was trying to relate was a disregard for human dignity. "callous" or "inhumane" would've done better. will be more thoughtful with my word choice

>MNMDR saga
This was a wild ride (I recall some of those goodreads comments from a few years' back). A great /lit/ feature - here it works since many of us will probably recognize the book, and perhaps even have gathered a bit what it's about; I wonder if it would still be as captivating to the non–/lit/ initiate - but it might well! it's not like i've read the or anything anyway. So: a memorable report. Bravo Atlas & KRH.

>Survive
Je fume, et alors!
Didn't do much for me: not on the level of the other things I've read by him (not that I've read all he's put out); also more typoes than there should be (it doesn't impede the reading but - also - after all his writs - someone needs to tell Og would to use an em-dash: no spaces on any side!).

>Schizocantos
not bad, interesting imagery

>>22242570
survive was mid

>>22240459
Hilarious

>>22241155
Checked. I’m stoked for that writer because his contribution to Tales was the worst in the book.

>>22242112
>>22242200
Checked.
I can’t render the master file to my thumb drive for some reason without corruption. So I emptied my laptop and I’m very slowly rendering it now to my C:\. Should be finished by Tuesday.

>>22242419
Ari has full license to complete the project. If he’s not done by next year I’ll figure it out. Ari is a solid contributor and has his own creative process. He’s also clicked up in university so I’m not here to interrupt that. I’ve seen pics and he’s doing a good job. I’m excited.

>>22242570
Yes I will releasing a PSA on /lit/ clarifying the propriety of the em dash.

>>22241049
very glad you enjoyed DB anon.

>>22242878
>Ari has his own creative process

AKA Ari is a whiny little fag who’s spent the past year vacillating and lazing around making the best of take 10x longer than was necessary

>>22242932
basically, kek

>>22242570
The last canto I thought especially good.

>>22242991
Yea it was fire

>>22242991
Cantos is always fire

Damn that cinema story made me sad. I also get the same feeling.

Where’s the anon who rated all the submissions out of 10 last time?

>>22243229
Scoreanon normally scores a couple of days after release

>Summer Matinee

Really not sure what to think of this one. I thought it was very well written, and the narrator carried the aspect of a wandering ghost. OF course, there's no real profluence of plot, but this isn't strictly necessary. I've got no criticisms, other than that what's being eulogized, while familiar, is presented in a manner that is almost too familiar. There's no real surprises in how you present your memories/attachment to the communal space, nor in your lamenting its death.
Overall, good, best so far.

>Manifesto inc

Amateurish,
>blushing and stuttering lead
not in love with that
I think everything here is presented with as little subtlety as possible.
>flashed an acidic look
So one, we have cliche, two, we have an adjective doing too much heavy lifting in conveying an action
This reads like YA, and I found it ridiculous, in all honesty.
>Vivian’s hands tremored as she cupped them over her eyes. “Twenty-five.” But even as her body screamed to escape, her mind was quiet, clear and sharp as a glass knife. “Twenty.” It was a Friday evening, and she was standing in the empty restaurant again. Almost closing time. Watching the passersby outside in the warm blue twilight. “Fifteen.” Watching herself watching them smiling, laughing, touching, hands warm in the hold of hands. “Ten.” The blood roared in her ears as she saw herself as if on a great red plain, dwarfed before thelooming stack of empty tomorrows.
This is the strongest part, even with the final sentence reaching too hard for profundity. It actually conveys why the character is motivated to do something so ridiculous, and while what is written isn't not cliche, it's still written well.
A bait and switch only works if the bait is taken.

>To Make The Mud

Good, but I feel like verisimilitude took precedent over storytelling sometimes, and this hampered my ability to enjoy the story

>The New Timetable

Another strong piece. The language clean and functon wthout any missteps, but this is also because it didn't attempt any fancy footwork. The story itself, a bit of a stand up routine, set up, back story, then call back. Never lagged, although the ending is kind of nothing. Makes the story feel like it was never building to anything, as if the punchline is; "look at this guy's life, isn't it so sad?". When in reality it's supposed to be more mundane, right? I feel like this story, miserable as it is, is supposed to encompass a good deal of the human experience in contemporary Britain, and acts as commentary, then, on something. So really, the ending being this eruption of sentimentality, especially when the tendency to silently accept the abuses of modern life was mentioned earlier, seems like a subversion.

>>22243229
I don’t understand his scoring but I like he takes the time to do so

>>22243229
Based

>>22243261
Based and &ampilled

was To Make the Mud written by the same dude who wrote For They Are the Ones Who Do the Research?

>>22243261
Thank you for the comments on The New Timetable. You are right that I wanted this piece to speak a great deal about life in post-industrial Britain. In one sense I wanted to be quite specific; the pit villages of the North-East are not quite alike to any other sort of place in Britain, though many other places are similarly deprived and decaying. In another sense, though, I wanted it to speak to the doubly doomed experience of all those who suffered through the twin cruelties of Thatcherite deindustrialization and then the financial crisis.

I agree that the language is flat. I felt that to write otherwise would undercut the verascitude that was my guiding principle. In his portrayals of oppressive drudgery, Houellebecq often writes almost without style, as if to do so would be unfaithful. I do not mean to say I am his equal, only that I aspired to his example.

The ending is certainly unfulfilling. The worst ending to a short story I ever read was 'The Feminist' (that one about the incel from n+1). At the end it is strongly implied he carries out an act of domestic terrorism. Ridiculous. He doesn't have it in him to do anything about his predicament. Nor does my Michael. He will keep living his miserable life and one day it will finish.

I am troubled by your reference to sentimentality. I think I have maybe mistepped. I did not want to be sentimental. I wanted only to provide, as modest and quavering counterpoint, a reminder that humanity is tenacious, that it can put down roots in barely a dusting of soil. Now that I am calling it counterpoint I realise I should probably I should've interleaved the bus narrative through the reveries. A lesson learned.

>>22240638
&amp is now led by a BIPOC girlboss, get used to it

>>22243372
> In one sense I wanted to be quite specific; the pit villages of the North-East
N.B. this means that the background of a London cityscape could scarcely be more inappropriate (except as bizarre irony). But that's the &amp experience! I forgive you editoranon, not all of us had the good fortune to be born within the bongs.

>>22242842
u mean this preppy ahh cracker? KEK

>>22243365
Yeah.

>>22243462
why is anon like this?

>>22243462
Gardner, you are ontologically evil and there is nothing we can do to you that could be considered morally incorrect. You will never succeed. I will see to that.

>>22243503
Whether it's Gardner, or Ari or some other random discord troon, it's a sad existence, but honestly, I can't be bothered to care. Unreal made their bed when they started doxing people. I'm not gonna weep when they get what they had coming.

>>22243531
It’s probably Ari seething as usual. I’m surprised he hasn’t reposted the cum tribute pic yet desu

>>22238652
>Didn't publish my story
Fools!

>>22243555
If it is Ari, I care even less. Man has earned his retribution after what you guys did to him.

Nothing is sexier than a new &amp cover

>>22243261
>>22239561
Ranking with ratings (not the scoreanon)
7/10
Summer Matinee
New Timetable
6/10
To Make The Mud
Gummyworm
Survival!
5/10
Go To Sleep, My Zoodle
>The Faustian Spirit of Spongebob
This one is ticking towards a 6, really. I liked it more than this rating makes it seem.

Disneyland Balkanization
Many Happy Days
4/10
Robot Wars
3/10
Manifesto inc

Overall, a little weaker than the last issue, which I would say had a 9/10, in addition to more 7/10s. You should nominate Adonis for a Pushcart, no cap (it will not win, not even close, meanders a bit, doesn't have a great final point, the wife character isn't rendered enough for the prize committee).

Remember, *anyone* who brings up anything about that stuff, is not acting in good faith. Whether he's spamming photos, responding to them, naming the accused, or mentioning the acts offhand while lamenting the supposed response. This is the entirety of their life. This is their meaning. Deprive them of that last little bit of oxygen and they'll die. Perhaps literally.

Glad to see everything else back to normal, even got another podcast up and running. The /lit/ renaissance marches on.

>>22243559
maybe your story just sucked anon. you need to git gud

>>22243462
>>22242842
miniMAG is based as fuck:
The official magazine of &amp Magazine

>>22243559
Resubmit

>>22243652
>Remember, *anyone* who brings up anything about that stuff, is not acting in good faith.
Every time I wanna give you guys the benefit of the doubt you throw out some cringe shit like this. Obviously this guy shouldn't be posting your doxes. If you had started with that you'd have been completely correct and I'd happily rally behind you. I don't care that you guys doxed him but he has every right to be upset with you. It is not "bad faith" for him to post those doxes in retaliation. It's entirely within his faith. He is acting with complete sincerity and I can respect that, but, and this is a big but, this thread is not the place to air those grievances for the sole reason this is MY thread. MY story got published. This is about ME. I don't wanna see you, or him, being a bitch when the spotlight is on me. Go back to your hole until the festivities are over.
I'm glad you enjoyed my story. Stop being a bitch.

>>22243229
I am one of them, and I am here.

>Cognitohazard
Insanity can be a fruitful mine indeed. Insanity is a sky-scraping tornado Djinn of dust and fire that sometimes attaches its lowermost tail to a human and makes them do some really funny shit—generally to their detriment. Atlas, you did a bang-up job of curating this specimen. I had no idea that psychopaths couldn't smell.
I find it difficult to rate journalistic endeavors numerically, though I did very much enjoy it. I rate Cognitohazard:
Gonzo/10

>Gummy Prompts
Ah, the perfect dread of occupying the skin of someone I'd studiously avoid if I were to encounter them in social circumstances. Lovely, depressing, this made me literally go outside and touch grass and take in the sunlight. I am ever-thankful to not be this narrator.
A crystal grown on the walls of the container holding our modern digital soup. Emblematic.
8/10

>Powerpunk
>evidence does not need to be buried, and the hi-vis fabrics of today are strangely stain-resistant
This plugged me right into an outlet. I am energized. I went to my workshop and briefly switched on my angle grinder just to hear its beautiful grating song for a second. Long live powerpunk.
7/10

>Survive
Oggy, if you write a book around this, I will buy it. A hypnotically comfortable read.
8/10

>Gay Affair in Nepal
I tried to roll my eyes but they got caught on one appreciable detail or another.
4/10

>Many Happy Days
Florida resplendent on the page. I feel a paradoxical pride to be American. I envy such ease outside the influence of commas and em dashes.
7/10

>Summer Matinee
A vision of some lukewarm corner of Purgatory that I've done my own time in. The post-movie afterglow is my favorite too—it's like God came along to sprinkle a fresh layer of nostalgia on the world while you were sitting in the theater.
9/10

(cont.)

>>22243733
>Manifesto, Inc
An idea more engaging than the prose, which is still perfectly serviceable. I've seen much worse on published pages people paid for. This could climb to greater heights or simply find a profitable corner of the bookstore with more attention.
6/10

>To Make the Mud
Engaging, authentic, but drifts away from consistency in voice at points. The parts where it becomes a Story and not an interview detract from it being a story. Good stuff, though.
7/10

>The New Timetable
Mechanical, waxen, oppressively British. Seemingly sad for sadness' sake.
5/10

>Robot Wars
Vibrating with the aloof sourness of the Zoomer experience and outlook. Exhausting in parts, but maybe just because it paints too clearly a picture of people I personally know and am exhausted with.
7/10

>Disneyworld Balkanization
Charged with a kind of ludicrous bright-plastic prophecy. Sharp and crazy in a fun way, the kind of thing I expect and relish in &amp.
8/10

>Go To Sleep, My Zoodle
Reminiscent of the way in which my eyes began to unwillingly cross and slide around reading the excerpts from The Complete Works of God II in 016.
5/10

>Schizo Cantos
no.47 got decapitated! I'd have been fine with a clean beheading—I wasn't really sold on the first stanza myself—but the opening line of the second had some relevant connection and was non-redundant with the rest of the piece. Not a huge deal but like, talk to be about it beforehand?

Overall, lovely. Long live &amp.

>>22243143
>>22243107
>>22242991
>>22242570
Shucks, thanks
:)

>>22243559
Lol, seethe and cope

>>22243733
>>22243737
Checked. Absolute fuckin mensch.

>>22243652
I’d say this issue was better than the last one, simply because it was more consistent. 016 had a couple good subs but also multiple submissions that were really shitty and boring that I struggled to finish. 017 had some really good shit, and there was nothing in it that I felt wasn’t worth reading.

>>22244069
016 had a really strong opener and closer. Whereas this issue's best were stuck in the middle. Definitely left a weaker impression. 016 did have some stuff that could've been cut, whereas I'd only consider one story here really not worth publishing. More consistent in terms of quality, sure.

Wow Atlas wrote Summer Matinee?
Good stuff.

>>22244108
This issue had a great opener, although it could have used a stronger closer. Still better than 016 overall though.

meh issue. MNMDR stuff was fun, but that's more on the story being interesting rather than what &amp brought. Everything else was 1/10 - 4/10.

>>22244291
lol, sorry you have shit taste

>>22244291
&amp brought the story man
Seems like a harsh rating, especially with no detail. Though I don't think any story within cleared mid.
>>22244141
Where'd you see that?

>>22244108
>>22244291
Retard takes.

>>22244393
She said so on discord

>>22244413
>best story penned by a negress
/lit/ on life support. Is Jack Norman an abo? Only thing that would be funnier.

>>22243652
Glad you enjoyed "Go to Sleep, My Zoodle" I thought this would be more fun than just reviewing the books and putting my interpretations in there.

>>22243737
>Mechanical, waxen, oppressively British. Seemingly sad for sadness' sake.
5/10

Lol I hate British poverty porn too. Don't want to read about your mundane misery.

>>22244433
I’ve never met a literate abo, unless it was one of those smarmy white suburban cunts that claim to be abo cause their granddaddy was a quadroon

>>22244393
>&amp brought the story man
You're dredging up an interesting story where the only meaningful event took place before you were even a part of this site, and your only contribution to that story is the equivalent of taking a selfie in front of it. I'm all for hearing more from MNM-DR, he's an interesting fellow, but don't pretend that you did anything other than press "Record".

I would like to say good job to the people behind this. It's difficult to start something like this so kudos. Also respect to everybody who is trying to get published in this publication. It takes courage to put your work forward knowing that it may be rejected. Good stuff all round.

>>22244483
Not involved with amp, but all you're saying is what I've already said. Amp brought the story. It's such a deranged take to say that weaving together disparate pieces of a decade old story and interviewing someone at the center of it is equivalent to taking a selfie in front of something already made.
Idk, do you watch old Vice docs and complain that the shit they're presenting was already happening regardless? Some real losers on this site.

>>22244433
i found jack norman’s doxx

>>22244504
If you know about MNM-DR you likely already knew about his stalker. There are multiple references to it on just about every review platform that lists his book. There were multiple threads about this shit back in 2017-2019, and it is still referenced to this day.
It's not "weaving together disparate pieces of a decade old story", it's the regurgitation of something that was common knowledge to those who read BAS within the first few years of his first shilling. I'd understand if you were presenting this information to an outside group, like Vice for example, but no one outside of /lit/ reads this. The only group of people who would find this an insightful recap are those who look at the election tourist as a hardened veteran of 4chan.
This is simply taking an established story and doing the absolute bare minimum to attach their name to it. No one cares if you talked to Brenda. She added nothing she hasn't been trying to add for the past 5 years.

>>22244557
I'm real familiar with BAS and I didn't know a lot of this story. I made the Goodreads page for that Belcea slop and I remember Sellers post being an early review. Very confusing. I assumed she was him under a different name.
You just seem like a guy who looks for something to whine about.

>>22244557
Take a seat, gatekeeper. Don't be like this. I have migrated on boards for a long time and I only just become a regular to this one a few years ago. You are like the /a/-fags who moan about anons that don't know everything about Accelspammer or the hundreds of schizos they have.

>>22244557
lol, your seething is pathetic. you literally made zero valid points. so what if some people on /lit/ have already heard about Mnmdr’s stalker? it’s still an entertaining recap with a great interview and it was well researched and well written. personally i’d seen anons reference mnmdr’s stalker in passing years ago but the general consensus seemed to be that it was him larping as a schizo to shill his own books, i didn’t know all the details that the article laid out

>>22244566
>I'm real familiar with BAS
This Seller's stuff isn't some obscure detail. If you look into the archives she harassed MNM-DR multiple times on this website. Her autism even went so far as to compel her to comment on the archives of old BAS shilling threads. This Brenda issue is something that most people who knew MNM-DR associated with him, and something that he has used in his own shilling. Now granted, this site has lost 99% of the the users it had in 2017 due to the current quality, but that isn't an excuse to present old board drama as obscure oldfag lore, especially when that presentation involves inserting yourself into that drama through a nothingburger interview.

>>22244583
Here's a great idea! Why doesn't &amp do an interview with the "I'm going to post this every day until you like it." fish poster. Wouldn't that be crazy! So much concentrated 4chan culture, amiright /b/ros?!
Fuck off retard.

>>22244605
Why don’t you write something, create something, generate something of interest? Or not.

>>22244614
I have. It's been published in this mag and was received quite well. I didn't receive a single negative reviews on it--but if I did, I wouldn't be this big of a bitch about it.

>>22244632
What did you write?

>one contributor is responsible for half of the negative comments ITT
wtf
Which story has the worst juju?

UPDATE: Brenda read our article and was not a fan. Sad!

>>22244635
We both know that I'm not about to mark myself as a deanonymized enemy of you guys, especially with recent events.

>>22244637
This (>>22244291) was actually my first negative post of the thread--though the negative juju may be a good lead.

>>22244605
That’s what journalists do though.
They aggregate plotpoints and give context

>>22244651
Atlas, show them my reply kekkkk

>>22244654
Just finish the fucking best of already. You should be doing that instead of shitposting here.

>>22244236
This issue was designed better but 016 had the better stories.

>>22244651
This bitch seems like the type to fucking kill you so , uh, stay safe.

>>22244654
You are definitely not one of the 7/10s, so I feel no need to take any snark from you with all due respect.

>>22244655
"4chan Journalism" is not be a thing and should not be a thing. If you think that the anonymous events of 4chan should cataloged for entertainment, and that you, a group made up almost entirely of people who joined this website because of Covid lockdowns, should be the ones to do that cataloging, then you are beyond help. For the dignity of this website, I hope you suicide sooner rather than later.

>>22244670
Wrong guess. Better luck next time. Is there even a hundred different names? How many of those authors even wrote a story worth praising? It shouldn't be that hard to narrow down which one I am.

>>22244684
Well this is a little fun. The british guy had a sight more humility and it's about 5AM his time, and you certainly aren't Atlas, so that leaves the 6s
Ogden would never, Prestia wouldn't bother, now, you could be the Mud guy. But Disneyland seems more likely to be written by someone with your temperament, and people have been quite kind to it even though I personally had it below the median of this issue. The writers of Robot Wars and Manifesto Inc wouldn't puff up their chest like this. And Ari wrote Powerpunk. And I'm sort of convinced that he's never been in any of this shitshow threads.
My guess is that you're none of the authors. But given who you certainly cannot be, I hope you aren't one of the few remaining possibilities. That would be very very embarrassing. Really lacking in self awareness.

>>22244693
based detective anon

>>22244693
I think you might have your detective cap on a little too tight.. If you were paying even the slightest bit of attention you may have noticed that I rated all of the stories in this issue between a 1 and a 4 and said that it was a "meh issue". I'm obviously not an author featured in this issue. I do appreciate the investigative enthusiasm though, even if that same quality did expose the fact that you're a fucking moron.

>>22244605
MNM-DR wrote a book. So does it matter or does it not? Is it a frivolous article or is it topical? You are seething for no reason other than being a hipster.

>>22244743
> My guess is that you're none of the authors.
Another solved case for me, then. And you've, for no reason at all, exposed yourself as a reckless hater with no aims other than to teardown a board group project and bump this thread. Thanks for playing!

>>22244767
A slightly roundabout way to uncover something that my introductory statement made crystal clear, but sure. I guess you've won this round, even if you're no closer to knowing which &amp contributor I am.

>>22244767
>he doesn't get to claim he's written for amp unless his writing is published in this issue
This shit was confusing enough without you being so stupid.

i wonder if this guy is just gonna hang around these threads forever

>>22244804
So sorry for interrupting your hugbox. I'll be off now.

see ya tommorow

>>22244651
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF RUSTLED

Do you guys really need to start a slap fight over every negative review? Take it on the chin and move on. You don't need to alienate every author that takes issue with an element of the mag.

>>22244835
Yes. We do need to start a slap fight over every negative review. Never take it on the chin. Meet aggression with a completely unneccesary escalation of aggression. Roundhouse kick critics into the trashcan.

>>22244844
Fair enough.

>>22244835
I have taken plenty of criticism and never said a word about it.

&amp has survived a debilitating crack addiction, 5 months of troll threads, and being a monthly magazine that has released in 16 of its 32 months of existence. Very resilient, like a cockroach. An author that is so upset at bad reviews of his bad review that he leaves? A head cold.

>>22244860
While that may be true, there is a not so insignificant number of World War 1 veterans that died of the common cold. Not saying we need to be deathly afraid of it, just that maybe we should avoid sucking the air out of every pneumonia patient we see.

>>22244885
I hope you don't beat metaphors to death like this in your actual writing.

>>22244886
You've just made an enemy for life.

>>22244835
I don't think anyone objects to criticism? People insult the mag and then anons call them.

>>22244899
Yeah, people have dogwalked multiple stories in this mag and nobody shit on them, lol. It's only when you start insulting people that they care. What a bad faith interpretation of events. Concern trolls

>>22244899
Anons accuse them of being authors and it's an anonymous shit fight when really authors like myself just stfu and don't respond to any feedback on our stories positive or negative.

>>22244911
Yeah, I've only ever seen one guy, in all my time following /lit/ mags, get into routine slap fights over negative reviews. Anyone aspiring to be an autho either tries to learn from the criticism or cries in dignified silence, maybe both

>>22244899
Obviously the guy should have given his reasoning for the rating but even if it was just "insulting the mag" then who cares? What would the difference be if no one had given him what he wanted? Did the resulting slap fight make you guys look good to anyone on the fringes?

>>22244903
>It's only when you start insulting people that they care
I don't think he was insulting people. If his criticism were directed at me I wouldn't have taken it as a personal attack. I think it's a bad faith interpretation to write it off as "insulting people". Obviously he wanted a rise out of you but he got it by insulting the stories.

>>22244923
why is there always someone bringing up the angelic observer in these threads. We're on /lit/. These are literally the least toxic threads on the board other than the rare book club and /clg/.

What guy is like "I really really wanted to contribute to your 4chan mag that just featured a story where capitalist glownegroes hypnotize suicidal college students into doing hate crimes, and Adolf Hitler was the boy bunny from Max and Ruby, buuuuut when some guy said your investigatie journalism effort was cringe other people in the thread told him he was retarded so I will be looking to sell my wares elsewhere."

How could this person possibly exist. How did this person brave all the gamer words and light pedophilia and the editor being a fucking CRACK ADDICT and then get filtered by the 10 post slapfight, one that is actually incredibly cordial as 4chan slapfights go?

Who exactly are you trying to protect? Name them!

>>22244923
No I mean random anons say the mag sucks and then other anons call them assblasted authors of negative reviews. Not that we are defending the mag.

>>22244946
I don't think I expressed even a single trait you are placing on me. I don't know if this is projection or something more dire but please keep it away from me and my family.
Let me word it a little more carefully: stop taking every scrap bait that is shat out in front of you. You look and sound like a retard. I'm begging you. I'm already published in this mag and the one degree of separation between us is close enough for your stink to rub off me. I am completely and totally okay being associated with a crack addict soft pedophile that is half cockroach. You, on the other hand, are being asked to walk ten paces in a different direction.

>he's still here

>>22244983
Just let the retards take the bait. It's more entertaining that way. No one can train these people.

this is all getting a bit schizo-ey for me..

haunted thread
editor needs to hire an exorcist

>>22245001
I know, but someone needs to rein these people in. You can't say a single bad thing in these threads without prefacing it with two paragraphs of apologies intended to soften the blow. Failing to do this and you're run out of the thread on account of you obviously being Gardner/Ari wearing a skin suit.

Shut up Ari. Enough.

>this exact sequence of comments again
every thread for 4 months...
That's dedication!
I wonder if this is Brenda. Or does &amp have its own Brenda now?

>>22245051
Sounds like you already wrote the story...

>>22245051
>Brenda hates/loves MNMDR
>Atlas hates/loves Ari
>Ari hates/loves Unreal
There must be a way to craft this into a love/hate ouroboros. MNMDR and Unreal not having obsessive rivalries is the issue here.
Brenda -> MNMDR -> Atlas -> Ari -> Unreal -> Brenda
If this happens I think we can work everything out.

>>22245064
Let's hope Brenda doesn't see that book review they did...

>>22245064
It's not Ari. It's Gardner. Stop spreading lies.

Shut up Ari.

>>22245064
Been to the post office recently Ari??

>>22244651
The absolute unhinged mind of the boomer karen.
It's strange, comforting, and maybe a little disappointing all at once that even in my deepest derealist delirious funk I don't approach this kind of wacko. Even a cloud of sensory impressions and patchwork notions pretending to be a human can do a better job than this thing.

Holy fuck. It’s actually Brenda.
It’s been fucking Brenda all along.
Holy fucking shit.

Unreal, please. it's 1:30am on a Monday. I think you guys have more productive things to do than repeatedly namedropping Ari.

This Unreal/Ari/Gardner rivalry is gay and I don't want to hear from any party. Post your favorite story from the last three issues right now. Give it a score and a six word review.

>>22245116
We must assume that anybody stirring up shit in &amp threads is Brenda. It's a good, tight, focused narrative. Whether it's true is 0% relevant.

>20 minutes of nothing
Are you discord trannies seriously just here for the drama? You spent 4 hours shitposting around a magazine that you don't even read with enough attentiveness to form an opinion on?
Maybe this is why it took 33 days for someone to notice that Mixtape was an incomprehensible mess..

>>22243737
> Oppressively British
This might not have been meant complimentarily but I'm taking it as such :)
thanks for the score+review

>>22245192
25 minutes, idiot. Also it's late.

>>22245196
It took me five minutes to write out the part that wasn't a greentext. Even if you write at my speed it should only take you 36 seconds to write out the 6 words asked of you.

>>22245193
Anything that generates a strong reaction has its own merit. It reminded me of (though was not so ridiculously British as) the novel Children of Men.

>>22245207
I thoroughly reviewed every piece in 016 and 017

016 or 017?

>>22245212
Which issue did you prefer?

>>22245192
lol, do you miss us or something? is this the only action you get day to day?
Just join the discord or something, unless you're banned, which given your relentless seething out here, you definitely are.
Literally begging for people to shitpost at him. This place has gotten a little too cozy. You gotta go outside, man. Maybe get on a normal sleep schedule so you can post alongside the upstanding &amp regulars.

>>22245248
016 wins out by the virtue that it had some real absolute rockstar pieces, but if not for those the variety of 017 would have it for me. It's a close race.

>>22245326
>Just join the discord or something
I don’t have a discord. If I make one to join will you give me your 6 word review of your favourite issue?

>>22245326
I’ll also point out that I’m in East Asia right now so the sleep schedule comment is a bit misplaced, especially seeing as how most of your are lards/leafs. Isn’t it like 3 am for you right now?
I just wanted you people to talk about &amp instead of each other for two fucking seconds. Apparently that was too much to ask, or was I just not polite enough by your standards?

>>22245384
>>22245346
Just walk away man. Nothing good is going to come from interacting with this further. They’ve already decided that you’re someone they know from Discord and nothing you can do or say is going to change their mind. They did the exact same thing to me. You can take pictures of your SEA village, scan your passport for them, prove your knowledge of &amp and live in their discord for 6 weeks as the friendliest person in the world, and none of that will matter. To them your sincere effort to prove that you care about the magazine will just be a gigabrain scheme to trick them. It’s not worth the effort. Put that time and effort into your writing instead. &amp will still be here two years from now. The people obsessed with Discord fame won’t be.

>>22245384
I didn't really like many of the stories in 017. I can't really explain why. It's not that any of them were bad and an earlier anon said that 017 was designed much better which I agree with, I really like its presentation and the inclusion of a review and interview was really fun, it has a great feel and theme, but the stories in 016 - the good ones, at least - had a more lasting impact. These stories came and went for me. I had fun with both Gummy Prompts and Survive they had a great energy about them. I am really looking forward to 018 and think it could be an incredible issue if certain anons who are sitting on their best projects as they sit with other journals really said fuck it and gave their best work to &amp and it may be controversial but I think Atlas should stay she brings a real female conscientiousness to the project that I think it benefits from.

>>22245452
I just really want this drama stuff to end. I don’t care about Ari or Gardner or Unreal or how they all fit together. This magazine is the only good thing /lit/ has made since COVID. I don’t want it over shadowed by people so obsessed with popularity contests that they need to attack everyone who threatens their ranking.
The Mixtape stuff that was found last thread was the final straw for me. It feels like no one is reading the stories anymore.

>>22245497
Thank you.
I feel like everyone’s opinion on 16 vs 17 will come down entirely to whether you’re the type who appreciates highs or whether you’re the type who dreads lows. 17 had nothing that even attempted to touch No Adonis, but at the same time, wasn’t making me crawl out of my skin reading babies first book review. Ari’s story was likely the worst but even that was still a 6/10 if it caught me on a good day and I appreciate the fact that it was written in such a staggered timeline.
I have no real opinion on Atlas’ role as editor. I don’t know enough about the inner workings of &amp to see the pros or cons associated with such a shakeup, but I will say, I expected a far greater drop in quality from such a shakeup. I’d likely have not noticed if it wasn’t announced here.

>>22245513
>This magazine is the only good thing /lit/ has made since COVID
I also despise drama shit but honestly Tales of unreal was good.

>>22245513
Keep the faith. I think &amp is in good stead and am keen to get to work on new submissions. Hope others are doing the same.
> t. doomer britanon

>>22243555
>cum edit
That was made by discord user Melville aka Pachriatto. He has a grudge against Atlas for basically no reason and has made multiple cum tributes for her.

>>22245514
Given the interaction I just had with someone who I assume is from Unreal, I hope you’ll understand why I had an unconscious urge to roll my eyes at that statement. I understand that it’s a collection of short stories from /lit/ and that it’s unfair of me to throw the non-Unreal authors out with the Unreal authors, but that doesn’t undoing the souring that was just done.
I’ll still check it out but please be more tactful in the future.

>>22245515
Same. My writing will continue whether &amp does or not, but as long as it does it’s getting first crack at publishing my work.

>>22245537
nta but I've been pubbed in both &amp and one of their anthologies. They are sweet folk, unlikely to disturb or otherwise irritate. And the drama which stems from certain bad individuals is bitter bitter, not for the better. I take them in the same vein as &amp and editor sama. I hope good things for them and there are many bright writers in both. Briters perhaps

>>22245556
I’m not interested in the popularity contest or how you cast your vote. I understand all I want to understand about this drama. Unreal doxed this guy. This guy is mad that he got doxed. Gardner is Gardner. I don’t care. I’ll read the book.
If someone from Unreal is still here, do you have a catbox link to it? Or do you want me to buy it?

>>22245497
>if certain anons who are sitting on their best projects as they sit with other journals really said fuck it and gave their best work to &amp
This is really something I believe as well. I lurk in the discord and even people say it openly in &amp threads out right admitting to hedging their bets with certain stories. Not everyone wants to put their best stuff into &amp because they are all looking elsewhere.

>>22245568
>this guy is mad he got doxxed
I don't want to drag this any further too but cmon. that wasn't the guy. It was some bored person pretending to be mad for Yous. I mean Ari is literally a main player in Issue Seventeen and 16. He's given a special thanks. Why would he contribute so heavily to a mag that is sisters with Unreal and has advertised Tales which supposedly features the same people that doxxed him?

>>22245581
I really don’t want to give you guys a soapbox to read out your campaign speeches on so I’m just going to back out of this conversation now. I’ll just say that I don’t know Ari’s side of things other than what has been presented in these threads. I shouldn’t be expected to know more than that or to have my own crudely scrawled notebook of conspiratorial conclusions on the nature of Ari’s relationships with a half dozen people who I barely know the names of. Your explanation may sound logical but I’m not equipt to poke holes in it and I don’t care enough to do so, nor do I want to take you at your word and champion you around as the victims in a mess that I should have never been assaulted with the knowledge of in the first place. If you’re correct, I don’t care. If you’re wrong, I don’t care. Please keep this drama, and the unsolicited opinions of your place in that drama, sequestered away in the depths of your discord.

>>22245513
>No Adonis
this little mf gaining late traction in later threads. I thought I was the only one who read it except for scoreanon since it was so long.

>>22245513
>I have no real opinion on Atlas’ role as editor. I don’t know enough about the inner workings of &amp to see the pros or cons associated with such a shakeup,
I don't really either other than just knowing she was the editor for this issue and I thought the whole interview with that lady must have required a lot of effort so I just assume much of the design is attributed to her and I really liked the design and layout. I'm not a big fan of the textboxes used for Powerpunk and I think it was also used for Fantasist's Grindset in 016.

>>22245622
>I'm not a big fan of the textboxes used for Powerpunk
This might be an unpopular opinion, but since learning they use Canva for everything I’ve been way more judgemental of the design. I don’t want to say I’ve lost respect for the design, more that I’m more paranoid of it. Growing up in the mid 90’s has made me acutely aware of clip art and has fostered a hatred of the people who use it. Every element could be clip art. I have to be sure. I have to check.
It’s like learning what Worcestershire sauce is made out of. You can never quite enjoy it to the same degree because you’re always looking for the flavor of rotten fish.

>>22245645
I will add though, the only time the clip art really offended me since learning this were the elephants above Waltzing Elephants.

>>22245652
>>22245645
I know nothing about graphic design so I don’t know what to look for. If it looks pretty I’m okay with it.

>>22245652
Yeah design for Waltzing Elephants is really off. 017 a huge improvement in that regard.

>>22245618
I reviewed it too.

>>22245528
Nah it was Ari. He admitted it to me on Discord.

>>22245581
Kek, Ari didn’t receive a special thanks in 017.

Nesmerniggas who tf up

>>22241737
>unrepentant usage of jargon,
I wrote it after reading Franzen's "Mr Difficult" essay, and wanted to write something with a barrier to the audience.
>accident reports.
Based off this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zDcsjHyxr8
>>22243365
And I wrote in Unreal's Islamagood Bazaar anthology
>>22243261
>>22243652
>>22243737
That's fair.

>>22245618
I must admit I didn't finish it originally. Going back to it now in view of all the fawning.

>>22245879
Really? Gross

Atlas...

>>22245652
There are about three or four designers now, including myself, making &amp. I will never use clip art in any unironically detectable context, however I let pretty unattractive designs from other designers come through. I think that dynamic design and occasional ugliness has become a part of &amp aesthetic.

>>22245581
Unreal have already admitted to doxing him on multiple different occasions. They’ve even gone so far as to reprimand one of the core members in a way that outright killed the podcasting department of Unreal. I don’t think it’s up for debate whether it was Unreal who doxed Ari. We know it was.
Now why Ari is still hanging around these people is a different question. Did he forgive them? Is he being told to shut the fuck up? Does he simply have zero interaction with them and cares about the magazine enough to put it aside? I don’t know, mostly because Ari has never given his take on the matter. I know what my interpretation of this drama is, but I don’t know his.
It is also interesting to note, like the other anon pointed out, that Ari was not given a thanks in this issue. Combine that with the multiple times the editor has thrown him under the bus and I take it that he’s not in the best standing around here.

>>22246534
When did the editor ever throw him
under the bus?

>>22246574
During the message in a bottle thread he called Ari lazy and said that he was never going to finish the best of. Ari got upset at this and defended himself. Unreal took this as an opportunity to dogpile on him and spam his dox.

>>22246587
>he called Ari lazy and said that he was never going to finish the best of

Well, he had a point.

>people still taking this bait
This exact exchange has no lie occurred in every amp thread for months. This fella is committed! And he's not even Ari, God bless his soul (or damn it if he never finishes the best of).

I enjoyed robot wars. The other stories didn't catch my attention quickly enough to justify me reading them.

>>22246534
Unreal are planning to continue their doxxing campaign

>>22246613
Filtered

>>22246613
you have the attention span of a broccoliheaded Zoomer tiktok user

>>22246630
>>22246625
Maybe so but your stories are uncaptivating and tedious.

>>22246642
How do you know? You didn't read them lol.

>>22246591
Point or not, there does seem to be some schism between Ari and the mag.
I genuinely just believe that Ari is a sad person who has put a ton of time and effort into something that is actively rejecting him and is simply too deep into sunk cost to accept this rejection. Slightly ironic given the surrounding circumstances.
I hope he finishes the best of, but I don’t think it’s going to make people like him.

>>22246612
Not everyone who talks about this is one person. You should have learned that when you accused the other guy of being that one person earlier in the thread.

>>22246613
I’m not going to insult you but I will ask you to read over Atlas’ story one more time. I think it’s good enough that if you gave it a chance you’d walk away with a different opinion.

What do I have to read to begin to interpret the schizo cantos? Right now it feels inpenetrable. I have early schizophrenia if that helps.

>>22246646
Sorry but there's no way I'm reading something as gay-sounding as "Summer of Matinee" or "Go to Sleep, my Zoodle"

>>22246675
Zoodlebros… it’s over..

>>22246675
Begone TikTok-addled zoomerfag

>>22246613
>intentionally picks the worst story to boost thread engagement
I see through your schemes

>>22246619
THIS IS YOUR CAPTAIN SPEAKING…
PREPARE FOR DOXXING PROCEDURES

>>22246662
Really just the collection itself. It is self-referential and self-expounding, more may become clear with further installments. It attempts to communicate something that defies communication and the idea of a "something," so it's a little impenetrable by nature. I literally could not explain it to you in plain language if I wanted to.
Meditation is probably your best bet.

>>22246782
I am going to figure it out and probably tell no one.

>>22246534
no one doxxed Ari, he used his real name on discord and had a bunch of shit publicly available online.

thank you finally I remember the thread talking about the first issue and after that I completely forget where it came from :D

>>22246791
This. He should have used a fake name if he didn't want his face and school posted here. I don't care about someone this stupid. Unreal did nothing wrong, and frankly, he deserves worse. Here's hoping.

>>22246785
Excellent

>>22246791
>>22246812
Weak excuse and sociopathic followup. I hope those of you at Unreal who are still sapient can find god and put this dark time in your lives behind you. I'm praying for you.

>>22246785
You won't be able to tell anyone after the truth of the text is done ravaging your fragile human brain bits.

>>22246695
That's impossible because To Make The Mud is objectively the worst entry.

>>22246662
Try more modernist poetry. Eliot, Pound, etc.

>>22246591
KEK, this guy gets it

>>22246953
I could get some of Pound's more clear poetry. But one thing about freeverse is I dont understand how cadence affects meaning. Never heard it explained before or know a resource. I know exactly how metered poetry works with substitutions, but freeverse I feel lost.

>>22246812
Doxxing him was just karmic justice desu.

>>22246646
Summer Matinee was kind of cringe. Lazy use of present tense, YA narrator, plotless, it wants to win you over with apt descriptions but these are parlour tricks that can be learned by any undergrad who pays enough attention.

>>22247506
I liked it quite a bit but I'm worried I'll agree with you on revisiting it.

>>22247506
In general I dislike present tense but it makes sense for this sort of thing, which I would describe as less of a story and more of a brief vignette, meaning that plot isn’t strictly a necessity. Your point about the YA narrator seems unfounded since the narrator has no definable characteristics and is (like another anon said) more of a wandering ghost than a person. In my experience YA narrators are defined by being characterized as special or unique in an immature way and I didn’t see that here. My only criticism of the story is that it’s not as fully fleshed out as I’d want, but overall I thought it was rather good.

Less reliance on hypertext gimmicks and the like have really improved the quality of issue 016 and 017. 015 is sort of a pain in the ass to parse

>>22247660
I did not say that the narrator reminds me of a character from a YA novel, yes it is clear the narrator is a ghost and not Jennifer Lawrence. It is the commitment to aloofness, the voice hinting at deeper meaning the whole time, while leaning heavily into a saturated prose style filled with observations and events meant to come off as profound but that only manages to adopt the flavour of whatever its trying for. I'm not joking or trying to be mean to the writer, but you could find passages similiar to these all throughout the Twilight saga.
>vignette
>not fully fleshed out
Yeah, I know. I'm sure a lot of effort went into the idea of this piece. But it all appears vain and late night to me, like teenager up late on their tumblr poetry blog. YA.

>>22247689
I would like to see hypertext make a comback it it could be done properly. It may be time to move away from Canva.

Someone who liked Robot Wars please explain the appeal.

>>22247736
What do you think would be improved by moving from Canva? Reminds me of people wanting Bethesda to use unreal or something. The same hands will be working the new tools with the same aims.
Also I don’t think anybody knew they used canva until one thread ago because it was never brought up until then.

>>22247736
>>22247689
What do you guys mean by hypertext here?

I submitted a story for 018 and it got me thinking how much more scrutiny there's been with writing in &amp. I'm still going to do my own thing, but I'm curious what you more critical anons are even looking for in contemporary writing.

when excerpts of /lit/ screenshots are used in the magazine, i'm confused why it's never my posts? it really ought to be. i'm the greatest living painter and youd be lucky to even have access to my posts, let alone my real work. when i post sneak peaks people get jealous and tell me to quit showing off, or are mean because i use words they don't understand, or ignore my post because to reply would illustrate their own inferiority complex

What Canva does is allows open creative collaboration on a single file by multiple editors at once.

>>22247802
You have to screenshot it yourself and email it to us

>>22247820
you'd think somebody would just pretend to be me, if it's that easy?

>>22247811
>>22247811
Same as gdocs. Sometimes you have to make compromises with these things. Plus, if you’ve never had problems with the platform why in the world would you make that change?
Nobody’s mentioned why specifically they don’t like canva, either. The odd mention of clip art is not platform dependent, it’s designer dependent, and most like it.
>>22247802
Tastes vary. You can see that within this same thread. Amateurish composition is obvious, though, and something that can be spotted by ChatGPT, even(useless as a writer, some use as an editor a few ratchets above premium Grammarly)

New bread:
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>>22247802
Maybe your posts just suck ass

Deathbump

RIP THREAD deathbump

Bye frens

>>22247747
that is such an apt comparison
>hurr durr 20 year old engine
bitch you ain't a game designer

>>22247747
>Reminds me of people wanting Bethesda to use unreal or something
Kek this, it was a mistake to give morons even that information because now they can throw the term around and have some false sense they "get" what's going on and now they can contribute a suggestion to do EVERYTHING differently in a process they know nothing about

>>22238799
you and Lovecraft both