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Any zoomers here who managed to become somewhat well read after being a compulsive tab switching terminally ill internet brain? How did you manage to do it and with which books have you started?

Seriously used to read a lot as a child but now it seems that I can even get past few pages without my mind
wandering off
Now I want to try to substitute hourlong web browsing/video gaming with reading. I even bought an ereader

>> No.22214586

I basically forced myself to read a certain number of pages everyday. I started at 30 but I raised it to 50 later on.
Another thing that helped me was not to read for very long periods of time, instead reading in shorter sessions throughout the day. For example, 20 in the morning, evening, and before bed.

>> No.22214734

>>22214568
I enagage in the sort of behaviour but then 2 hours before sleeping i set everything aside and focus on the book.

>> No.22215010

>>22214568
Read before sleeping, even for just 10 minutes

>> No.22215179

>>22214568
>How did you manage to do it
I don't know anon, I just picked a book and something clicked. Sometimes I can devour a book in few days, sometimes it takes me a solid month to get through an average book. I just read whenever I feel doing so.
I also think forcing it doesn't quite work, you can't develop a habit if you don't find the activity satisfying.

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>>22214568
Read for a small amount of time every day. The book in your OP would recommend not doing so before bed.
I actively disliked Adler's How to Read a Book. Suffers from good ideas being stretched out to fill a ~400 page book.

>> No.22215683

>>22215678
>400 pages
>read all of them
Then you completely missed the point of it. And you definitely haven't understood the book.

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>>22215683

>> No.22215733

>>22215725
>book
>how to read a book
>he didn't used the book to read the book itself
Bruh... were you sleeping during the book or something?

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>>22214568
I’m not necessarily well read but I have read the following books:
>Letters from a Stoic
>American Psycho
>The Corrections
>Infinite Jest
>Fahrenheit 451
>The Trial
>The Metamorphosis
>Oblivion by DFW
>Pale Fire
>Blood Meridian
>Suttree
>The Road
>The Sound and the Fury
>As I Lay Dying
>Absalom, Absalom!
>Venus in Furs
>The Pentateuch
>Peace of Soul by Bishop Fulton Sheen

Books on my shelf I have yet to read but own:
>The Bluest Eye
>Gravity’s Rainbow

>> No.22215762

>>22215742
That said, I recommend you read The Corrections, The Trial, Suttree, The Sound and the Fury, and Absalom, Absalom!. The rest wasn’t really needed or worth it desu. I really liked Infinite Jest, especially the parts with Don Gately but it’s not mandatory that you read it but you should read this short story from DFW: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a500/incarnations-burned-children-david-foster-wallace-0900/

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>>22215733
>How to read a book
>Author: some writing styles will not suit you
>I dislike author's overly-repetitive style
>Litcel: you didn't understand the book

>> No.22215806

>>22215792
If you read all of it, you got filtered by the book. It is that simple.

>> No.22215812

>>22214568
>Now I want to try to substitute hourlong web browsing/video gaming with reading. I even bought an ereader
It's easier than you think. I realized that when I had my hospital stay. I read all the time, just because there was nothing "better" to do. My naturally overstimulated brain needed to feed and all it had to feed on was books. You can do the same, just to commit to finding the time and removing the distractions.

>> No.22215819

>>22215792
>read the How to Read Science and Mathematics
If you read this chapter, I'm 100% sure that you haven't understood the x-ray chapter. This chapter is so fucking useless, that it is aimed a public that is absolutely niche, no one reads such things. So it is literally a trivial chapter to skip.

>> No.22215829

>>22215819
And I'm saying that it was useless as someone that read this book while I was studying Physics in college, and I also had a lot of math classes. It is literally a useless chapter. That "How to Read a book" actually has somewhat like 200-300 pages if you got the point of the book.

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>>22215819
Are you sure you understood the chapter 'Coming to Terms with the Author'?
His writing style is overly repetitive and drawn out. Skipping chapters does not address this.
Also, the Science and Maths chapter was short and comfy. You were a fool to skip it.

>>22215829
>I am very smart
>Sounds like an idiot

>> No.22215899

>>22215897
>I'm a retard that can't use a book called how to read a book in itself
Ok. I won't go any further.

>> No.22215906

>>22215899
>I'm a retard
Sure buddy. It's best we stop here.

>> No.22215912

>>22215897
And it is not even about being smart, anyone can study Physics, there is nothing special to it. It is like the same as every other course in my uni, but the if you read that chapter and thought it was informative and insightful, you have to be fucking kidding me. And the thing is that the chapter "warns" you right at the start of it what is its aims, so it is not like he makes you waste time. I was warned and I listened to him. The chapter basically says "I'm useless unless you feel like reading historical science books".

>> No.22215949

>>22215912
Are you pretending you didn't mention your credentials for clout?

It's a nice chapter which itself addresses why you should want to read it - 'is it an exaggeration to say that this is beautiful'?

>> No.22215969

>>22215949
>how to read a book, basically a practical manual
>" it is boring book, I didn't like the author style"
>stupid fucking useless chapter about useless crap
>"oh I loved that one, I though it was beautiful. It doesn't matter that it is useless for most practical purposes"
You are a woman, aren't you? Either that, or you are really fucking high on estrogen. There is no way you are sober. Hormones are one hell of a fucking drug.

>> No.22215981

>>22215969
>Complain book has an overly repetitive writing style
>Enjoy chapter where author is not repetitive and expresses a passion for the topic
>Litcel: you must be a woman

>> No.22215985

>>22215981
KEK you are a woman. It is ok, I'm fine with you existing and you are valid. That is alright. I have no issues with women.

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>>22215985
I have enjoyed arguing with you. Good night.

>> No.22216026

>>22216020
Me too, I had fun. Ok, good night.

>> No.22216326

>>22215683
How the fuck are you meant to know the way the book wants to be read without having read it first

>> No.22217143

>>22214568
like others have said, set a goal of how many pages you want to get through a day, 20 is a good start. Try and make a routine out of it so you get used to it and eventually read habitually rather than forcing yourself to do it. Also may sound obvious but if you are new into reading just read accessible shit that you can easily get through. Move onto actual classics and /lit/ core when you can easily get through 20-50 pages a day, and if you don't like a book just put it down and try something else, no point forcing yourself to read something you don't like especially if it's going to kill your reading momentum

>> No.22217557

>>22216326
I won't spoil the book for you. Get it and find out. How one acquires /lit/ super powers.

>> No.22218269

I'm not a zoomer but i did the same thing. Tried to start off reading again without having done it in years with Kant (lol), After failing that I trained myself up with a couple trash murder mystery novels then read Til We Have Faces by CS Lewis which led me into theology and now I can read philosophy fine.

>> No.22218364

>>22214568
I tried to read that but my attention span got the better of me

>> No.22219968

>>22214568
I'm a zoomer and I started taking my reading seriously about 4 years ago, I "started with the greeks" and went through it autistically in chronological order from Homer onwards. I read a few roman poets like Virgil & Ovid.

What really expedited my progress towards literacy was deep sustained reading of the KJV and I'm now of the opinion that someone with little knowledge of the Bible doesn't really understand much of what goes on in most of what they read.

Now I'm reading late medieval english poetry, starting with Piers Plowman, going to work my way through chronologically until I get to Shakespeare

>> No.22220728

>>22214568
I am a zoomer, and while I don't read as much as I desire, I do manage to read a bit more than 20 mins per day (though I do not keep track), sometimes for an hour or two throughout.
>How did you manage it
I read shit I was interested in. Don't read books you "should" read, read books you WANT to read. That is, don't choose this or that book because it's "amazing prose" or "a classic" the classics are good and worth reading, if you want to. Then I got interested in collecting a couple book series (Loeb classics and very short introductions) and with the short intros I use what I learned from reading your picrel

>I can't get through a few pages without my mind wandering off
If you are absolutely stuck, use audiobooks and read along. It helps me get through passages when I am frustrated with my attention. But find a place where you respect reading and only read there. If your phone has a lockdown mode then use it. Set it to five minutes if you anxiety is so large about it. Learn to set it longer and longer, so long as you enjoy it. I have to read assigned shit for school, so I keep a pleasure book (currently reading war and peace) nearby and read a page or two if I'm getting frustrated with the assignments. Or a walk a lap around the library and look at the spines.

Can I ask you something in earnest? Do you actually want to sub scrolling with reading, or do you think it's just "the right thing to do?" If you really want to change your habits, they have to be in the Id and Ego, not in the super ego. They have to be YOU and YOUR desire. Not pressure from those around you.

>> No.22220741

>>22214568
I am currently doing this. My head actually hurts and feels like it's going through a ton of pressure forcing myself to read and meditate every day, but I think after some time it's starting to break through.

I think the important thing is not to focus too much on what you're reading, but the things that you really want to know you'll have to read more than once. So get like 100 books to read and just read them all casually, but find the handful that are really important and read those ones at least 3 times.

Also don't be afraid to summarize the book by reading other people's cliff notes. That's all a part of the academic nature of this stuff. The collective knowledge.

>> No.22220764

Stop reading the stupid pseud shit that anons tell you to read on here, and find something you're actually interested in.

It's really simple as. The autists suggesting this shit to you haven't even read it themselves, they just want to act like they have. You won't gain any higher knowledge or social credit by forcing yourself to read whatever they tell you to. In fact, you won't even read it. Find something that genuinely interests you and become immersed in it. There is no other way. It's not worth forcing yourself to read something you're obviously uninterested in just for the pursuit of some higher knowledge you'll never extract because you don't have a deep interest in the material.

>> No.22220801

>turn phone to black and white
>make computer a pain to access/set up
>put books everywhere you can possibly sit in your house
>keep a book in your bag/backpack/car
>unplug tv/PlayStation after use

The point is to make your stupid monkey brain think reading is the easy and appealing thing to do in such a way that every road bump you put in place is juuuuust annoying enough to not get rid of but juuuuust annoying enough to get you to do the thing you think you should be doing. If you want to play guitar more, don’t keep it in a case in your closet with rusted strings, y’know? Keep it on a stand next to a chair. The same goes for reading. The same goes for tech usage.

>> No.22220937

>>22215683
kek
>>22215678
That's why anons recommend the wiki, huh?

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>>22216326
It's the kind of book everybody uses the wiki

>> No.22221771

>>22215969
Reminder that if you can't read it all, this woman had an easy time besting you to it.

>> No.22222928

I started reading non-fiction simply because I got bored of browsing the web. I feel like I've seen everything this site has to offer for now, I don't know where else to go for more honest and in-depth topical thoughts other than books.

>> No.22223289 [DELETED] 

>>22214568
>reading a book on reading a book? why would you do that Anon? I just read out loud at 300 WPM.