/lit/ - Literature

>>22165866
yeah probably

Yes, I have at least three times. Why do you ask?

>>22165952
>Why do you ask?

Because it's a based book.

>>22165958
baeed obn whet?

>>22165982
>Based on what?
>Doesn't know the based meme

Normalfag

>>22165958
>anon gives OP a chance to redeem himself
>OP decides he wants his thread to be off-topic retard shit
Never again will I give one of you chudcels the benefit of the doubt.

>>22165998
...anon... You have yo go back. Everyone has read lolita, everyone says based, everywhere, nobody here says normalfag, say normie if you want to fit in
And yes i have read the book, i think it was good

>>22165982
Based on a true story.

>>22165866
Yes. It’s my 2nd favorite romance novel.

>>22166007

Same.

>>22166005
>everyone says based, everywhere,

Only because 4chan culture spilled out into the mainstream.

> nobody here says normalfag,

Newfag.

>>22166005
>he fell for the triple irony trap
wew lad
...or did I get trapped as well by a four-layer irony? I can't tell anymore what's bait and what's not

>>22166024
They’re both baiting you
You lost

>>22165998
>reddit spacing
>doesn't know the yes this is dog meme

>>22166022
>Only because 4chan culture spilled out into the mainstream
Ofc, but you will see it anywhere nowadays. Same with pepe or chad

>>22165866
Anon, what do have against the newest UK cover: being a younger cover and all doesn't it merit as much, if not more, love, you know following the spirit of the novel itself?

>>22166086
How old is that girl? Also way worse in all aspects

>>22166086

Looks too old.

>>22165866
I like that it has lit in the title

>>22166086

>>22165866
Yeah. It's my favorite book. The christcucks who hate on it(having never read it of course) only work to help prove the book's point. People always ask "How did no one know he was a pedophile? How did he get away with it for so long?"

The disgust disguises the crime. In order to punish an evildoer, you must be able to think like an evildoer.

>>22165998
Post-irony has gone too far.

Is this place full of 16 year olds? A thread about a classic and nobody bothers to actually discuss it? What the fuck?

>>22165866
I still haven't gotten around to it.
Mostly because I have a bad track record of not enjoying Russian lit so far.

>>22166883

Humbert did nothing wrong.

What is the /ss/ equivalent of lolita?

>>22165998
>woooosh

You got baited, newfag

>>22166925
Tampa by Alyssa Nutting

My favourite book even if it loses steam in the second half. This and Pale Fire cemented Nabokov as my favourite writer. Any other books where Nabokov writes from the perspective of a somewhat whimsical, educated madman? Pnin and Cincinnatus were fun characters, but it's not the same.

>>22165866
it's a really hot book and is probably the best-written book I've ever read as well. everyone on 4chan is a creep so of course they've read it. Also women apparently like this book as they list it on their dating profiles. I recommend getting a copy with footnotes as it has a lot of references and fucking French.

>>22166897
he is russian but this book is super america-focused and has a road trip around lots of american places. lol. it's written in English and amazingly so

>>22165998

i sentence you to 2 years of lurk more

>>22166897
Hes not your typical dostoyevsly don't let his ancestry deter you, I don't even think he was a Russian resident iirc he grew up in Paris

>>22166937
Sure it loses steam but that's just the arc of the book where the toxicity and emptiness of the relationship springs to the fore, as usual from lolita its the most human way he could've told the story.
Also Humbert was a freakazoid simp loser kek

>>22167203
Replied to the wrong person, my bad im retarded

>>22166007
first is?

>>22167214
Anna Karenina

>>22165958
No, it’s not. It’s a boring pretentious piece of crap that insults the intelligence of its reader constantly by insisting that it itself is some literary masterpiece—no it’s not.

>>22165866
I read the first half. Beautifully written book. Will probably finish it one day.

>>22166452
>the book's point
>The disgust disguises the crime. In order to punish an evildoer, you must be able to think like an evildoer.
I don't think this was the book's point. I don't think there was much of a point. Nabokov was just obsessed with pedophiles. (Note: with pedophiles. Not with little kids.)

>>22167254
Humbert was a hebephile not a pedo

>>22167235
You realize that is on purpose, right? Humbert Humbert is a pretentious psuedo-intellectual who tries desperately to convice you he is smart, charming, and handsome. The main character is not the author. Part of the point is that we never leave the perspective of the predator. He is an " unreliable narrarator".

>>22167264
The postscript in my copy of Lolita, titled "Vladimir Nabokov on a book entitled Lolita" makes it very clear that that is not the case, and that Nabokov took his English writing very seriously.
He calls his book "aesthetic bliss, that is a sense of being somehow, somewhere, connected with other states of being where art (curiosity, tenderness, kindness, ecstasy) is the norm." He is not ironic when he says this, the postscript is completely serious.

>>22167259
This hair splitting was part of the original reason MAP became a term by academic autist, which was quickly appropriated by pedos and pedo apologist.

>>22167319
It isn't even true here either, I'm pretty sure the age range Humbert was attracted to was 8 to 14, and an 8 year old is solidly a child, not an adolescent.

>>22167227
what a surprise

>>22167259
Sure, fine. Not my point.

>>22167264
So what do you think about everything else he wrote? I've never seen him drop the act.
Here, try his Superman poem.

This is the first book I read where I felt some kind of deep pleasure at the way it was written and not from a cool story coming together. The first time I saw literature as artistic for lack of a better explanation I guess. I’m a self confessed plot fag who usually only reads casual fiction as a bit of fun as I read so much non-fiction for work/study and I absolutely loved it for the prose alone. Not sure why I haven’t read more by Nabokov. Highly recommend it.

>>22167355
This was my experience as well. Nabokov is an amazing writer.

>>22167341
Lolita is the only work I've read by nabokov, but at a precursory glance, that poem doesn't seem particularly special, at least compared to people most known for poetry like e e cummings.

>>22167406
Point is that the canonical Superman from the funnybooks doesn't talk about "throttling his dynamic heart", so what gives?
Nabokov always wrote that way because that was how he liked to use words. It's of no great significance to Humbert's character because he didn't change his style to fit Humbert's character. At most he changed Humbert's character to fit the style he was going to use regardless. He keeps his pompous tone even in his lectures.
So if somebody doesn't like Lolita's pretentiousness it's not because they just don't get it, it's because they dislike Nabokov's style.

>>22166086
That pose looks extremely painful.

>>22167549
4u

>>22166935
this is how a hebephile looks like?

>>22167587
holy mommy

>>22167009
The references I can excuse but the French? it is extremely basic besides one or two instances where you need to think about it a little further ("Vos Zhambes", for example)

>>22167587
>>22167603
I'm nutting right now.

>>22167587
I'd kill for a chance to be nutting on dem

>>22167587
MILK

>>22167587
I'd like to insert my penis in her tits, if you understand what I mean?

>>22167587
I want to be a 14 year old boy again and be alone with her in a locked room

>unreliable narrator

>>22165866
It's my favourite romance novel

>>22166925
>>22166935
i need MORE

>>22167587
MOMMY

>>22166935
>14 year old boy
Need something younger

>>22167214
Tampa

>>22165998
Go back.

>>22167664
>utterly ordinary trope

>>22167640
I don't understand, can you clarify?

>>22167322
cope

>>22165866
Yes, and it's overrated af

>>22165866
Yes. I've read all of Nabokov's novels and stories. I did them all in order one summer and the range and richness is amazing. It's both daunting and fun when you realize how dramatically out of your depth you are with a novel. For instance, I was so unqualified to read Nabokov's last Russian novel The Gift I can't even express it. I have no Russian, have read almost no Pushkin or Gogol, I know nothing of Chernyshevsky or Saltykov-Shchedrin, and so on. I'd gotten comfortable with the "Russian émigrés living in Berlin in the 1920s" setting from most of the last eight Nabokov novels I'd recently finished, but that was a quantum leap in complexity and a deep tribute to a world I was profoundly ignorant of. Still, who can resist the master's call?

>>22169755
If you had to pick between Lolita and Ada, which one would you say is the better romance novel?

>>22169755
I found the stories a bit exhausting to be honest as the émigré theme was wearing thin. I'll go back and try again.

>>22169788
Ada, for the sheer wild ambition of it (and that it's less one-sided). Lolita is never really a romance, after all. The crazy thing is that he's running a multiple-earth theory (the novel takes place in an alternate version of Earth, and artifacts/contact from our Earth keep coming through) in the background like it's nothing. It's a 7-layer bean dip of great writing.

>>22167549
It's evidently supposed to be the sort of "innocently seductive" pose Humbert would have seen through his bedroom window, possibly after sneaking into Lolita's bedroom and stealing her well-worn knickers. So he stands there, this highly cultivated man, with a young girl's fertilely aromatic knickers pressed semi-narcotically against his face with one hand (as he deeply inhales), whilst peeping through a slit in the curtains, & all the while frantically pleasuring himself with the other. It's quite conceivable that after just one or two olfactory-cum-visual hits of Lolita, Humbert would've been desperately hopelessly hooked, like a rabbit on a cocaine water drip–without her even knowing it.

>>22165998
good bait, deserved all the (You)s

>>22165866
I have multiple books with swastikas on it, but I wouldn't be caught dead with Lolita.

>>22167623
I don't speak French. Do you just assume everyone has studied it?

>>22167355
I thought the prose was weird as fuck at first, but as I got deeper I started to enjoy it, especially the vivid visualizations it inspired.

>>22166086
Jesus fucking christ is this real? It's AI-generated, you stupid fucks. How can anyone look at this and not immediately feel disgust. It's fucking over..

>>22167203
>Also Humbert was a freakazoid simp loser kek
He should have shot Dolores and her gimp husband aswell as that fat faggot he wasted at the end.