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We often hear about people who say "I dont care about money, cars, riches and other material things because I wont be able to take them with me to the grave" but can this be said about reading and acquiring knowledge as well? (reading, university, lectures, podcasts and all forms of knowledge and intellectual pursuits).
Whats the point of reading and elevating yourself and becoming an erudite if at the end, in your deathbed, those things wont matter and you will be buried and forgotten, and next to you will be other people buried from diverse backgrounds and intellectual abilities, all made back into bones and dust, undistinguishable from each other, all equal in the eyes of death.
>"The greatest wealth is to live content with little." - Plato

>> No.22099530

just do whatever man

>> No.22099540

>>22099530
Well, this is what I'm currently doing because I'm struggling to find even meaning in basic things, I used to love reading but now I dont see a point in forcing myself to read.

>> No.22099542

>>22099540
then don't bother, reading won't make you a better a person or help you reach nirvana. I just spend my hours lurking on here to learn about stuff but I never read myself.

>> No.22099543

>>22099542
>reading won't make you a better a person or help you reach nirvana
It could if you read something that you can apply, put it into practice and elevate yourself spiritually. I haven't read anything that has had such a profound impact on me.

>> No.22099546

>>22099527
What's the point of anything, retard? Go live in a fucking ditch for all I care. Stop trying to get validation from random nobodies on the internet.
God you fucking "ugh life is le pointless because I die eventually" nihilists are insufferable

>> No.22099550

>>22099546
lmfao this nigga mad

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>>22099546
Not OP but you sound like the kind of anon who gets to a point where he's way too online and needs a break from over socialization. Chill out, pal. It isn't that serious.

>> No.22099559

>>22099527
Aesthetic experience. End of thread.

>> No.22099561

>>22099559
Please explain

>> No.22099563

>>22099561
If you know, you know. If you don't, you don't.

>> No.22099564

>>22099558
Interesting that you post Stifler, I know in the movie he is seen as a funny retarded dork and whatever but is he the ultimately goal in life, to laugh and not give a fuck while having a good time?

>> No.22099567

>>22099563
Unfortunately, I dont know.

>> No.22099568

>>22099567
Tough luck.

>> No.22099575

The point of literature is primarily enjoyment

>> No.22099612
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>>22099527
I'm ESL, so brace for an impact.
The point is, there is a difference between people who 'don't care about money etc.' while minding their own business and people who don't or pretend not to care while preaching their way as the only right one. Those people are intellectual Social Darwinists and they need to go fuck themselves.
I don't care for riches, but I don't mind people trying to get them (if they don't hurt anybody in the process or at least keep damage to the minimum).
I have a job that pays my taxes and covers my basic needs and little desires. I don't think I live the right life. But to me, it's MY right life.
Your question is loaded with thanatophobia, and, I presume, this thanatophobia is rooted in aimless reflection. Reflection per se is a great thing, but aimless reflection is a loaded gun. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm sorry for this little session of amateur psychoanalysis. But if I'm right, I don't think your question is about what you actually want to know - how to be happy in your own head. Sometimes, you just need to wait. Or radically change your environment. This can be a spark to ignite your interest in life and death will back away, at least for a time. And you will be able to enjoy reading and other activities once again. Sorry for tl;dr.
>>22099559
Also, this. I recommend reading academic works on semiotics. Semiotics helps to understand the text as a medium.

>> No.22099651

>>22099575
Wrong.

>> No.22099657

>>22099527
Pleasure, enlightenment, education, escapism, or in the worst case, validation.
You get out of it what you need. Inevitably you need one, otherwise you wouldn't be reading

>> No.22099660

>>22099561
>Generally, aesthetic experience can be defined as a special state of mind that is qualitatively different from the everyday experience. According to Cupchik and Winston (1996), aesthetic experience is a psychological process in which the attention is focused on the object while all other objects, events, and everyday concerns are suppressed. Similarly, Ognjenović (1997) defined aesthetic experience as a special kind of subject-object relationship in which a particular object strongly engages the subject's mind, shadowing all other surrounding objects and events. In both definitions, aesthetic situations and objects of aesthetic interest are specified as fundamentally different from everyday situations and objects of everyday use. Perhaps the best example of this contrast is Picasso's famous Bull's Head, an artistic construction made of a bicycle seat and handlebars. Seen from the everyday (pragmatic) perspective, the handlebars and the seat are experienced as parts of a bicycle with specific functions (for seating and governing). Also, as with all other objects of everyday use, they can be judged as more or less beautiful, elegant, well designed, and the like. However, only when they lose their everyday pragmatic meaning (as bicycle parts) and transcend into the new symbolic level of reality (combination into a new whole, a bull's head), does the aesthetic experience emerge. According to Apter (1984) the distinctive feature of aesthetic experience is that it is not goal directed (ie, pragmatic), but focused more upon the activity itself (ie, self-rewarding).

>> No.22099662

>>22099527
feels good man.

>> No.22099664

>>22099575
>>22099660
The two genders

>> No.22099703

>>22099527
Bottom-line of reading is about entertainment or taking away a lesson from something,

anything else is usually just abstract interpretation that doesn’t have much practical value

people also often give value to being well-read or intellectual, but subconsciously i think most people just find them to be quirky and any transcendental attribution is kind of just either cope or some eureka moment thats not limited to just reading books

i would say stick to what matters to you in life, certain humble, real and practical goals with the literature you read that you think create value or you can apply somewhere and minimize the bullshit in between

>> No.22099707

>>22099530
fpbp

>> No.22099715

>>22099564
Unironically, YES!

>> No.22099727 [DELETED] 

Reading is about exploring Micro-ethics.

>> No.22099764

>>22099563
>>22099568
Rather rude.

>> No.22099816

>>22099540
why would you force yourself to read
I read because of escapism unironically, this world and society isn't the one that I can thrive in so I like to explore other lives and ideas self inserting

>> No.22099839

Your sole role in life that make any sense is unironically finding god

>> No.22099840
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>Works are the quintessence of a mind; they will therefore be incomparably richer in content than his company, and will also essentially replace this – indeed, far exceed and leave it behind. Even the writings of an ordinary mind can be instructive, worth reading and entertaining, precisely because they are his quintessence, the result and fruit of all his thinking and studying – whereas his company cannot suffice for us. Therefore we can read books by people whose company would afford us no pleasure, and this is why elevated spiritual culture eventually brings us to the point where we find entertainment almost only in books, and no longer in other people.
t. schopenhauer

>> No.22099929

>>22099527
You imply there's no afterlife in your post and value judgments - boy do I have a surprise for you.

>> No.22100052

>>22099527
In your free time? Pleasure.
Even the autists that say reading should never be fun are having fun while they're reading their dense philosophical texts. If you're forcing yourself to read something you hate in your leisure time then you're losing.

>> No.22100188

>>22099527
reading because of reading is absurd, indeed

>> No.22100191

>>22099840
fuck off, schopenhaur, you won't leech my stories out, I won't write them, cope and dil8

>> No.22100213

>>22099527
Read something from other culture, japanese maybe, and see that they think different that you. Why is this? Read stuff from own culture, understand the history and theory that trickle down to affect how you behave at an indvidual level. When you know yourself, and know the "other", only then can you make meaningful decisions/opinions of a global nature. Is similar to why American normies pull out the worst opinions on the ukraine/russia war while have zero (0) knowledge on the history and culture of both places as well as their own history of USA foreign policy in east yurope.

>> No.22100218

>>22099612
>I'm ESL, so
didn't read lmao

>> No.22100228

>>22100218
>doesn't read
We know. You're on /lit/

>> No.22100271

What’s the point of listening to music?

>> No.22100302

>>22099542
> I just spend my hours lurking on here to learn about stuff but I never read myself.
the state of this board

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22100329

Reading is comfy, even if I die with dementia and can't remember how to read anymore or any of the things I read I will have had fun in the moments of my life I spent reading.

>> No.22100460

How much information do you retain and process after reading something? Say, would you be able to write an essay about a topic after reading about it in a book, article or hearing about it from a lecture or podcast?

>> No.22100536

>>22099527
To be entertained, see others' perspectives, learn, be able to quote a book during a conversation which always BTFO normies. I talk to people much better because I read and watch a lot, and I always easily direct the discourse on a specific topic. I can smoothly switch from one topic to another without it feeling sudden and rash, as if I desperately need attention. All because I'm well-read

>> No.22100731

>>22099612
>thanatophobia
Lot of people have this issue these days.
The whole covid shit worked because so many people are terrified of dying

>> No.22100848

bump