/lit/ - Literature

the bible

>>22094187
you absolute retard
I bet you don't like the Iliad, too

>>22094197
The Iliad is art.
LOTR is the book version of marvel.

>>22094187
Never read it, never will. Same goes for the movies.

>>22094262
I have seen the movies on multiple occasions and couldn't tell you a thing about them outside a very basic outline of the plot (it's about guys taking a ring to throw into a volcano) and that it is a loose metaphor for Plato's ring of Gyges.

>>22094269
What is the backstory of your picrel?

>>22094269
>>22094284
samefag

>>22094262
>Never read it, never will. Same goes for the movies

>>22094284
It's an esoteric meme. A shoppe she ran fir countenance/ she swivved fir her sustenance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3BF8uMHCVU

>>22094289
That was not me but the meme revolves around one Sydney who before her real eastate job had turned her a new leaf, she had worked at an eatery serving clients of a different kind out both ends (lick her in the front and poker in the rear) doubling as both Perkin's shopkeeping friend and an Odette in need of a "blue."

>>22094197
Yes, because the first recorded epic poem in the Western canon is the same as a hodgepodge of Anglo-Norse mythology used as a channel to display constructed languages and banal moral lessons as imagined by an autistic snaggle-toothed, tweed jacket Oxford lad.

>>22094289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMiUVgeONF4

It does have a thing for attracting manchildren to it, but LOTR it is not inherently a 'manchild' thing.

what's up with all the tolkien seethe lately? /tv/ tourists?

>>22094299
I find it a bit discomforting actually

>>22094410
It is, and that's being nice.

>>22094410
Like attracts like

>>22094187
LoTR is just a mediocre book focused too much on corruption which undermines its fantasy setting. There are better books that make points about corruption and social critique including writings of ancient philosophers. The Art of War can easily be a man child book depending on how it is interpreted, as glorifying war and surreptitiousness or by understanding the ugly political and potshot nature of war.

philosophy books are for midwit manchildren that are unfamiliar with introspection and easily impressed by word games

>>22094556
True to an extent. Plato is fun for the games he plays on sophists who engage in circular reasoning (Euthyphro immediately comes to mind) but there isn't freat truth to be found in his dogmatic theories of forms or his quais-Fascist imperial state.

>>22094187
ITT: manchildren
OTB: manchildren

Though to be fair "manchildren" are less annoying than meathead yuppie social ladder climbers.

>>22094598
Both are horrible to be around.

>>22094598
>meathead yuppie social ladder climbers
why did you have to call me out like that?

>>22094622
As much as I bitch and moan about the internet, about social media online, and trust me I've bitched and moaned a hell of a lot over the years...
a HELL of a lot...
I've recently found out that I'm completely and totally spoiled by the selectivity of online forums and have, or rather had, become massively naive about just how fucking RIFE with normie-ism average society is.

Now I'm just sort of trapped (*) and unpleasantly bored with people here, online, and completely "out of my element" trying to find common ground with strangers IRL.

(*) Remenicent of that line from (otherwise sort of overrated and forgettable) "Steppenwolf", but that line, that "treaty" is worth quiting at length, imo, and I often refer back to it:
"It happened to him as it does to all; what he strove for with the deepest and most stubborn instinct of his being fell to his lot, but more than is good for men. In the beginning his dream and his happiness, in the end it was his bitter fate. The man of power is ruined by power, the man of money by money, the submissive man by subservience, the pleasure seeker by pleasure. He achieved his aim. He was ever more independent. He took orders from no man and ordered his ways to suit no man. Independently and alone, he decided what to do and to leave undone. For every strong man attains to that which a genuine impulse bids him seek. But in the midst of the freedom he had attained Harry suddenly became aware that his freedom was a death and that he stood alone. The world in an uncanny fashion left him in peace. Other men concerned him no longer. He was not even concerned about himself. He began to suffocate slowly in the more and more rarefied atmosphere of remoteness and solitude. For now it was his wish no longer, nor his aim, to be alone and independent, but rather his lot and his sentence. The magic wish had been fulfilled and could not be cancelled, and it was no good now to open his arms with longing and goodwill to welcome the bonds of society. People left him alone now...
...No one came near to him. There was no link left, and no one could have had any part in his life even had anyone wished it. For the air of lonely men surrounded him now, a still atmosphere in which the world around him slipped away, leaving him incapable of relationship, an atmosphere against which neither will nor longing availed. This was one of the significant earmarks of his life."
Etc.


Anyways...

>>22094761
Lol, my long ass effort post killed the thread.
lol

>>22094414
non-Anglos discovering they do not possess the bio-spirit required to understand LotR

>>22094187
pretty much any book written by a female focuses on childhood trauma of some sort or the other, so I'm inclined to include every single work by a female author into your category

>>22095492
If that is the result of effort then you have my sympathies.

>>22094496
For me LotR focuses a lot on corruption, but it really never happens. Sauron never corrupts anyone. He tries but fails. The ring temporarily corrupts two people in very brief instances, and the only real victim of a corruptive effect is Gollum.

The story mainly suffers from having poor antagonists that don't ever pose a threat to the protags, therefore negating any drama. If Legolas and Gimli can kill nearly 100 super-orcs so easily to the point they make a game out of it, and if all of Sauron's minions flee from the sight of Glorfindel, why ever be concerned with the protags' safety?

>>22094310
In the original story before anglos mangled it the dragon is Rome. The cursed ring bound the people into the form of a greedy dragon.

On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

>>22095581
>I am the king of effort posting.
Okay you win.

>>22095656
no u

ITT. Americans seething because their subhuman culture couldn't produce someone like Tolkien in the first place. There is not a single book in the Americ*n canon that can match the lord of the rings.

>>22094187
all mangas

Time-travelling 19th-Century Chad here. ALL of you 21st Century faggots are manchildren. Zero exceptions.

>>22096024
He's got us there, boys. But nah theres some real men left in some very specific places and vocations.

>>22094187
Why is LOTR considered for manchildren?

>>22094487
>>22094463
>same short, seething writing style

>>22095925
Americans love LOTR

easily the worst offender

>>22095925

stroy has huge eagles, what's not to love?

>>22096417
I know right? It's like hating Iron Man movies when they have iron suits. What's not to love?

Only a pseud or a non-reader could find LOTR to be a manchild book. Either you’re trying too hard or you don’t actually know the contents of the books at all.

>>22096429
>n-no y-you!

>>22096438
You didn’t though. You in fact did not read the books. And you know you didn’t.

>>22096440
>I'm a manchild? N-no you a-are!

>>22096450
You could just say that you did read it, but you won’t because you didn’t. You don’t actually know what is in those books lol.

>>22096452
Ad infinitum.

>>22094187
The books began to go downhill after Frodo left the shire.

>>22094187
Lit hates stories with happy endings because they can't larp about it...

>>22094419

>>22094187
God I hate lotr

das kapital by karl marx

Good novel. Tolkien stands apart from comic book and schlock writers due to his autistic commitment to creating a living, breathing world. He is probably unpalatable to some here because he is also equally dedicated to avoiding allegory or any other quality that makes his world less than its own world, discrediting any allegation that transposes his creative energy from fantasy to reality. Its fantasy, its exciting, its immersive, and its worth the read if you like to enjoy things, especially if you've done a little hiking. And I think it literature primarily because it stands out in its authentic qualities, craftsmanship, and influence.

>>22094187
Gooptiz

>>22094262
You will still never touch a woman.

>>22098147
LOTR fans that default to feminine methods of argumentation? Color me surprised.

>>22097331
Could you be huffing your own farts any harder?

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP haha thats you talking about lord of the rings SNIIFF SNIIIFFF pungent my dear exquisite
Grow up.

>>22098769
The inner child of a Tolkien fan rears its head.

>>22094187
What’s the point of this thread?

>>22098950
To solidfy the literary caste system.

>>22098943
no i only read big kid books

>>22094187

>>22094187
You have to not be a hylic to understand "Lord of the Rings"
>It's just a jumble of Norse mythology
Criticism based on the surrounding details of the book, not of Lord of the Rings itself
>Tolkien was an autist!
Criticism of the author, not of the book

>>22095925
moby dick

>>22095501
Funnily enough most non-anglos have their own epics including the shitskins. And better than a made-up epic.

If LoTR didn’t happen then why was the church angry about elves in the anglo-saxon to medieval period? Checkmate atheists

>>22094410
I love LOTR but with the magic card release thing this week makes me inclined to agree. Before man children it was hippies as well.

>>22100406
>t. non-Anglo seether

>>22100656
Trying too hard.

>>22094556
some philosophy is about introspection, what are you talking about
it sometimes talk about true nature about yourself

>>22095501
>>22100656
he's right

>>22100996
Do you have it in tapestry?

>>22094187
your diary desu

>>22101360
stone slabs only, sorry pal

>>22094187
Isn't LOTR a book for children children?

>>22094187
every time i try to read this book i always get so bored within the first few chapters. the start of this book sucks. maybe it gets better but i havent been able to get through it yet

>>22094187
All books are for women and manchildren. Real men memorize all the necessary knowledge they need. Only women (and manchildren) care about fluff filled prose, because they need it to kill time since they have nothing better to do.

>>22094187
Meep Meep

>>22094187
who cares?

>>22104743
Manchild detected.

I really can't take a medieval fantasy series seriously unless it details pee pee in vagina.

>>22094187
eee

>>22094187
LOTR is great, so is the Silmarillion.
t. best read person on 4channel.org

>>22094262
I haven't read the movies either

https://archive.org/details/the-hobbit-bluefax
https://archive.org/details/the-fellowship-of-the-ring_soundscape-by-phil-dragash
https://archive.org/details/the-two-towers_soundscape-by-phil-dragash
https://archive.org/details/the-return-of-the-king_soundscape-by-phil-dragash

>>22094207
>hasn't read the book
very lit