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22091705 No.22091705 [Reply] [Original]

Alright, /lit/. So what do we do about those bloody postmodernists?

>> No.22091723

>>22091705
Nothing. Commies are cringe but it unironically is all just metanarratives. Reinforce your cultures at the expense of others for sure though

>> No.22091731

>>22091705
Ignore them, just like OP's Pic Related.

>> No.22091736

>>22091705
He's in the same boat as the people perpetuating the problem without realizing it. I think his spiritual/religious worldview will become more commonplace but won't resolve the issues he thinks he's solving. In fact I'm more convinced it might accelerate them.

>> No.22091824

>>22091705
Maybe, when entering a debate on Marxism, reading more than a dozen pages of Marx would be helpful?

>> No.22091828

when are we going to switch to a new era, postmodernism has been around for like half a century.

>> No.22091932

>>22091828
Postmodernism is an intellectual fad made up by philosophers who realized modernity was boring and needed innovation, but couldn’t come up with anything new of their own so they just started critiquing everything.
I blame technology for forcing these poor professors into such spirals of degradation

>> No.22091965

I'll tell you what we've got to do about these damn neo-marxists. It's about bloody time we went back to modernism. Grand meta-narratives and a sense of community, that's where it was at bucko! I mean, when did we stop believing in things? And now you've got kids running around, and they're just, they're just miserable (starts crying). We need to bring back Dachau, like, it's the only way these bloody postmodernists will ever learn. Because you can go around tearing everything down, but then what? Well people need something to fill the void, and then we've come full circle to modernism again, and its like, we already tried that. Well sure, but here we are.And that's why Israel is our greatest ally. Because if you don't have a narrative to tell yourself, then what do you have? Millions of dollars and a suit full of bespoke suits? Well that's no bloody way to live.

>> No.22091971

>>22091705
Where are they, Mr. Peckerson? I mean, Clean Peterson. I mean - sorry, Johnson Peterson.

>> No.22091974

>>22091824
Why? The people he's railing against haven't read Marx either

>> No.22091977

>>22091974
Zizek has though, which was the whole point of the debate. To have a serious discussion between two intellectuals, not to rage endlessly against strawmen.

>> No.22091982

>>22091705
you look like bloody chaos bucko

>> No.22091983

>>22091736
its called jestermaxxing bucko

and wash your penis

>> No.22092018

>>22091977
I'm embarrassed for you, you can call my mommy.

>> No.22092022

>>22091977
Zizek had no idea about Peterson's ideas and Peterson had no real idea about Marx so it was a terrible debate overall. There was practically no overlap. Peterson's bug bear is "postmodern neo-Marxism" which has almost nothing to do with Marxism. So you can quiz him all day about what Marx said or did but you're not getting at the heart of the argument

>> No.22092025

>>22091977
>>22092022
haven't watched the entire debate yet but why are people saying he lost so bad and did he acutally?

>> No.22092028

>>22092025
Nobody lost the debate because it wasn't a debate. The one adversarial point was Zizek asking Peterson to name some postmodern neo-Marxists and Peterson mentioned one name (forget who). That's about it, the rest was them either agreeing with each other or just going on about their ideas without much thought for the other guy

>> No.22092041

>>22091705
Are these postmodernists in the room with us right now?

>> No.22092151

Anyone else absolutely tired of the verbal diarrhea that comes out of current year American "philosophy"?

Peterson, bap, Sanders, AOC, Rogan, Trump, other pop pseudo intellectuals.

Why is it either:
>Guhhhh we need to copy exactly what Sweden does, it's a paradise there! We'll hold hands and sing, everything will go exactly according to plan with zero unforeseen consequences!
Or
>Hitler was bad but let's discuss how some of his policies might have worked starting with zero taxes for billionaires and water boarding the gays.

American pragmatism died and there's zero notable people trying to reign in on the snowballing ideological retardation. Name a popular moderate/centrist that everyone on all sides recognizes as a moderate. None.