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What

>> No.22088271

Where

>> No.22088297

When?

>> No.22088300

how

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Why?
But unironically
I don't get what she was trying to say
I understood the words and stuff, but what was the point of it all? I liked the middle part, where she talks about the house falling apart without the family there, and I get the underlying tones of LE DEPRESSION that Mrs. Ramsay had, but I definitely got filtered here bros

>> No.22088315

I haven't read Woolf but i recently came across the fact that she was a proper nepo baby and a dyke who was butthurt upon discovering Joyce.

>> No.22088332

>>22088315
She was married to a man and said that she owed all of her happiness to him and was deeply sorry, but she just couldn't go through another war so she killed herself
Who told you she was a carpet muncher?

>> No.22088340

>>22088315
>nepo baby
Any use of this term exposes the speaker as someone inhabited by slave morality, bubbling and oozing with ressentiment and bitterness towards a perfectly healthy phenomenon. Not to mention they are an unthinking regurgitator of phrases and slogans favored by the horde. You are a bug.

>> No.22088344

>>22088305
It's about how negative emotions over events can carry far into the future and have long lasting repercussions. James really wanted to go to the lighthouse with his family, but was rudely denied by his father who thought it would be a bad day for it. They end up not being able to go, and they don't get the opportunity to come back until a decade later after his mother and one of his brothers has died. He holds a lot of negative emotions towards his father due to how he was treated as a child, despite the fact that he desperately wants to love his father and be recognized. Their relationship is awful because of relatively small things that leave large impacts. Then you have Lily painting, who is basically just Woolf herself musing over her artistic/writing process. Mr. Ramsey also shows how one can struggle to not feel alone and properly communicate even when surrounded by people who love you. It's not a very difficult novel, and is one of Woolf's most auto-biographical, since the setting is based on her family's vacation home in Scotland, and the characters are based on family members.

>> No.22088346

>>22088332
Dude just google Virginia Woolf lesbian. Also her husband was himself a bit fruity. >>22088340
I can imagine Woolf writing similar sentiments when she found out she wasn't in the league of a struggling Irishman. Besides if you're here on le chans, you're already a pleb, anon.

>> No.22088358

>>22088344
Thanks anon
I'm gonna have to give it another read
I played myself by not reading it fast enough, I think. It feels like the kind of book that should be read over a couple of days instead of in a few weeks, but I just couldn't get super into it

>> No.22088408

>>22088358
>It feels like the kind of book that should be read over a couple of days instead of in a few weeks
It's impossible for me to not finish a Woolf novel in a couple days anyways, since her writing flows so well. I pick her books up and before I know it I've already read half of it and can't put it down

>> No.22088488

Everything she tried to do in Lighthouse was either done better in The Waves or in Mrs Dalloway. Lighthouse is way too poor for the praise it gets

>>22088344
>this is james. He hates his dad! He wants to beat him with a bat! Bad dad! Bad dad! Here's james years later. He hates his dad. But wants his love! Oh my. Good thing I, the author, told you this as there was no way I could have illustrated this without my narration (which I can't ever evolve out of until The Waves)

>> No.22089659

>>22088488
Whats her best and worst book? Should I even bother with her works?

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The day I realized modernism is irrelevant was like a tide of bliss washing over me. I threw out half my to-read stack and I no longer have to spend time arguing in Ezra Pound threads.

>> No.22090560

>>22088332
It's just typical homo shit where there's something that can be interpreted as condoning their sexuality so they make the entire being of it about their fetish.

Specifically, fags and trannies claimed Orlando as LGBTQ++ literature and emphasize a close female friendship Woolf had as her being gay. Orlando is meta-commentary on the nature of biography (e.g. the impossibility of pinning a person down, how biographers interact with and change their subject, etc) and gender ideologues interpret this according to their delusional sex schizophrenia. There's also commentary on the constraints imposed by society on both women and men (Orlando is cursed by a gypsy, that's hinted at and not explicitly stated, who changes him from a man into a woman) and trannies run away with it as confirming a man can be a woman and vice versa.

They seem to be ignoring the multiple mentions of Orlando "slicing at a dead niggers head" though--I should check and see if there are reviews interpreting this as the internalized racism of being a white male upholding white supremacy, kek.

>> No.22090584

>>22090219
Imagine identifying with "Mr. Milquetoast" and telling on yourself. Edit the meme to be Mr. Martinet so you'll seem badass.